Grom the Paunch Rides Down from Misty Mountain! Lorebeards w/ Andy Law & Loremaster of Sotek

[@NorthsouthWestly]

Be’lakor manipulating Grom to wipe the gnomes out fits nicely with my theory that Be’lakor was a gnome prior to his ascension.

[@stephenlucas8836]

1:19:48 my favorite interpretation is that they made multiple attempts of steering the whole roof. Sending sneaks, wyverns, even whole shamans covens summoning the hands of Gork and Mork. It was a long losing espionage battle of defending ulric’s roof wood tile by tile.

[@kanesideram7651]

Would love a stream on Elspeth Von Draken, given her high likelihood of arriving in Thrones of Decay.

[@lyroful]

Elspeth and gelt double feature 😂

[@LinkLegend0]

I hope you guys do this into your 80's. There is enough lore to make it happen!

[@thegametroll6264]

Everyone else says groms cauldron mechanic was broken but I think it was amazing. The ability to buff my lads by cooking things I either bought from the river troll hag or found fighting other factions was just amazing. The scrap upgrade mechanic was just really lore friendly too.

[@Blitzkrieg1012]

Oh man these videos make my day. I absolutely love chilling playing Total War Warhammer and listening to you 2 lore nerds have a good time. I've learned so much about the Warhammer world and its people and it makes the games 1000 times better.

[@stephenlucas8836]

1:35:44 conspiracy, grommet going to sea and the storm shunted them away and was lead to elthwan was no coincidence but a clandestine fishman plot

[@ASpaceOstrich]

I'd really like an episode on gods. They come up a lot and its often mentioned that they don't work how a lot of fans think they do. And knowing what they are and how they work would be great context for most other topics that are covered.

[@rellek4053]

I don’t think the end times should happen because people can’t set aside their differences. I think that would be silly because that’s what order does in every end times scenario. They get together, set aside their differences and win the day because frankly, chaos being inevitable seems more like propaganda than prophecy to me in warhammer fantasy. For all the strength of Chaos, order is incredibly strong. If it was order trying to destroy the world and chaos defending it I’m sure the Slann alone would have it done in a day.

[@x0lopossum]

1:29:00 the legacy of Grom 19:25 Why Troll meat is so dangerous to eat and how Grom became insanely regenerative, larve, and almost unkilleble by eating troll meat. 25:00 Why intelligent Orcs are viewed as unintelligent by other Warhammer races. And also Grom vs Gutstabba Orc war boss and the story if Niblet, the nightgoblin that grom sat on that survived and became his hipe man. 35:10 Orcs and goblins can kinda regenerate. Like by reataching arms... Hmm 🤔 37:50 Grom doesn't care about big cities because of his goblin mentality, this helped his waaagh last longer??? Also 41:30 is relred to this 49:30 Dieter the 1st, a foolish emperor of the empire of Sigmar of a Sirland line 57:45 Grom's Goblin's control all of the world edge mountains. And how grom got geeenskins to spread all over the place. 1:00:10 You cant attack grom from the rear, the amount of greenskins Grom's Waaagh left behind was awe inspiring. 1:05:30 Grom's legendary Chariot races in Nuln. 1:08:30 Orc and blaxk orc war boss advisors constantly asking grom to attack more than he does. 1:13:20 insane feat of grom before his invasion of Ulthuan. 1:16:20 Grom's fancy chariot he made out of nulb gold and stuff gets blown up by a middenheimer, this enrages him and he attacks middenheim. 1:19:40 Grom kills warbosses who refuse to obey his order to.buuld boats. Also why Nordland doesn't have large coastal cities in total war Warhammer 1-3. 1:24:00 the gnomes almost get complety wiped out by Waaagh! Grom 1:32:00 Grom fleet vs empire fleet and marienburg fleet. 1:50:00 Grom wrecks high elves in tor Yvresse, they aren't used to horde like enemies like Skaven, Greenskins, undead, etc. 2:16:40 Grom breaks and retreats, and most likely isn't seen again.

[@eugeniosalese3861]

My favorite chapter from my favorite youtuber about my favorite character. THANKS! Greetings from Argentina

[@davidthane9002]

Blacktooth' plan to use the Ogham Stones and my first thought: It's been Belakor all along!

[@eugeniosalese3861]

GROMMMMMM! THA GRATEST

[@schwarzaj]

I seriously want Grom in Age of Sigmar now.

[@russianbigdaddy]

PLEASE DO SKARSNIK!!! He's my favorite dude in warhammer.

[@akumaking1]

Who or what is the Warhammer Fantasy equivalent to Santa Claus and/or Krampus? Can that be a future episode?

[@Omnicide101]

Re: Niblit, since y'all mentioned not being super into 40k, he's pretty much got a direct one-on-one replica in there! Makari Da Banna Wava, Ghazgkull Mag Uruk Thraka's lucky Snotling standard bearer! (At least I think it was a snotling, miiiight have been a grot)

[@789456456123]

Gretchin

[@ASpaceOstrich]

Man, one of the biggest bummers in 40k's translation of Fantasy races is that Goblins don't really exist. Like, there are grots, but theres no Skarsniks or Grom's or Forest Goblins or anything like that. They're just the Orks labourers.

[@danielecatania9631]

Thank you for the stream it was really interesting and I had no idea Grom's story went that deep. I had a minor on objection, if you will, to the hypothesis of Be'lakor being the one impersonating or whispering into Blacktoof's mouth. Why wouldn't he lead Grom's Waaagh into Albion and the Citadel of Lead? Wouldn't that be a much easier and, arguably, equally important target?

[@thegreatbookofgrudges6953]

20:10 trolls wind of ghyran conduit 41:20 43:40 46:57 47:33 48:43 hammond 53:35 58:03 58:48 59:55 1:02:09 1:05:45 1:08:43 1:13:00 1:24:00 1:25:58 gnome 1:13:55 1:16:12 1:17:55 1:18:53 1:23:10 1:36:12 1:39:00 1:42:50 1:54:50 2:01:20 2:03:20 2:05:17 2:08:35 2:12:20 2:14:10 GS don't use WoM 2:16:12 2:18:32 1:41:18

[@stefvanroey8191]

On the inspiration for Grom: probably Bolg the goblin king from the misty mountains (misty mountain) from the Hobbit

[@splatoon99]

I don't like seeing the 40k stuff slipping into warhammer fantasy. Having all elven souls be eaten by slaanesh doesn't make sense for the setting. In the grim darkness of the far future there is only war, and there is almost nothing that can be done to fight chaos that doesn't also feed chaos, but in Fantasy the dark gods simply aren't that powerful. They were held off for thousands of years, long enough for new gods to form and directly oppose them, and shelter their people without needing to control them. That's what allows those people to live without the terrifying zealotry and rigid caste systems of 40k , and to meet, and mingle, and form long lasting alliances instead of needing to kill each other on sight.

[@Dwarfurious]

actually legit unfair that the gnomes get done so dirty like that

[@paulbestwick2426]

If Grom was not a mutant, could Grom be Skarsniks ancestor ?

[@ASpaceOstrich]

What happens to the greenskin spores in the empire? I understand they have forest goblins and the like, but whenever a big greenskin horde attacks, its always from the outside of the Empire, coming over from the Badlands or something. But if Grom nearly wiped them out, shouldn't the empire be riddled with Orcs?

[@lachlanbold8319]

I always thought that Grom was around 2300 IC.

[@davyjones1335]

The Question at 1:55:51 about Albion and the Green Skins they did get to the island and the people of albion ending up united under some hero called Konark and beat back the Green Skins Source Book GaintSlayer. always disappointing to hear factions down played

[@stefvanroey8191]

Good catch!

[@Omnicide101]

2:31:55 - Gromcast was RIGHT THER3

[@dariusrose9909]

In terms of numbers how big is a Waagh. 10,000s or 100,000s How big is a regular Waagh? How Big is a really big Waagh? (Like Azhags or Grimgors How Big is a Mother of All Waagh (Ironclaw or Grom for example)

[@ASpaceOstrich]

I'd imagine millions in some cases. And not just their starting numbers, but as they take losses, new greenskins would be pouring in, possibly even including those grown from spores shed by the waaagh in question. I don't know how long it takes Greenskins to gestate, but Grom was going for decades.

[@305bj]

LOOOOOOOOOOOOREBEEEEEEEEEEEEEEARDS!!!!

[@Dwarfurious]

grom just seems like such a nonissue. Hes basically a less dangerous troll. If you can kill a troll you can kill grom even easier, just use fire im sure everybody has fire at this point in history.

[@Apostate_prostate]

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[@schizoaffective8592]

Go Rangers!