Zoe Harcombe - Facts about food to help farmers fight back

Watch Dr Zoe Harcombe's presentation in the Pasture for Life Forum at Groundswell 2018. For more information visit www.zoeharcombe.com

[@KenDBerryMD]

Meat & Eggs are Health Foods!

[@drthomashemingway]

Agreed!

[@kaychown]

100%!

[@jillfield3102]

Great talk, I watched this 4years on, nothing has changed ,I would go as far to say it worse.👍🇬🇧

[@drthomashemingway]

Awesome!

[@JesusChristisKingandLord]

Love low carb high fat and intermittent fasting lifestyle. I'm losing inches, weight, pimples, asthma attacks, skin tags, aches and pains, and I sleep well now. More energy. Thank you so much!

[@myrhev]

Did your skin tags go away?

[@pepper419]

@@myrhev Forgive me for interfering but I don't think skin tags ever go away but the normal skin infections and acne will clear up very fast.

[@KnackFarmer-theanswerismeat]

With you A S! Moved to whole foods only, mindfully, many years ago - have recently added time restricted eating (12pm-6pm) daily and am pleased to say that I'm one of the only 60 year olds in my 'circle' who's not taking some drug or other to combact chronic disease. Hubby too. What we can control, we do - what we can't we don't worry over.

[@toni4729]

Thank you Zoe, finally someone who is saying something about the damage being done to the planet as well because people are not eating properly. At last the reason the Amazon is disappearing and the U.S West is turning to dust because of the the way it's being farmed. The bison should never have been wiped out and now we're killing off millions of camels in Australia.

[@drthomashemingway]

Interesting insights!

[@paulcampbell840]

I think it is more a case of camels should not have been introduced to Australia - along with quite a few other pest species.

[@toni4729]

@@paulcampbell840 They could have been made good use of instead of poisoned. Actually, rabbit meat is very nice. Australia is the only place where it's not eaten, because you can't anymore. It's rather like chicken.

[@grootjohnmorrison4165]

Zoe is a gem 💎

[@tulsabrit671]

Thank you Dr Zoe,

[@iaindennis3321]

I am meat eater, I tried a vegetarian diet and was ill for over a year as I recovered. I am also an animal lover and my idea would be to have the slaughter house travel to the farm and disparates the animal on the farm in a much less stressful way for the animals

[@IAmTheSmiffaaay]

Iain Dennis But you’re still killing an animal against their will. Basically you’re just giving it a better life until you slaughter it.

[@puffel8145]

@@IAmTheSmiffaaay well you still tons of Critters for Vegan food And exploit Humans. People have diseases or are just so picky they would actually die.

[@jessicali8594]

... dispatch ... (in reply to the OP)

[@kaychown]

100% agree....mobile slaughter is the way forward !

[@kaychown]

@@IAmTheSmiffaaay and if you are vegan you are kiling animals and entire ecosystems !

[@dogphlap6749]

Good stuff Dr Zoe Harcombe.

[@daisymermaid1418]

Excellent!

[@helenalovelock1030]

I love this lady 💕💕💕💕

[@gerrysecure5874]

You cannot win an argument against an extreme opinion. The only goal you can hope for is convince the yet undecided bystanders.

[@marysmythe625]

Fantastic information x

[@therorysnake]

It's garbage, she's a quack unfortunately :(

[@poerava]

Brilliant speech. Terrible audio. Crucial facts. Thank you

[@Sabastianspreadworth]

It's a shame a brilliant lecture was ruined by poor audio and a flickering screen. Love Zoe Harcombe.

[@katrienopsomer8012]

Yes, we want good healthy animal products! Quality food also tastes good.

[@rationalbeingcitizenofthee9260]

But is it required to kill animals to please your taste buds? Understand animals suffer pain of death in butcher’s hand.

[@katrienopsomer8012]

@@rationalbeingcitizenofthee9260 there is no other way to really feed yourself. I truely believe you need animal fats. If you do not want to eat meat you have to eat eggs, cheese or yoghurt. Or drink raw milk.

[@rationalbeingcitizenofthee9260]

katrien opsomer dear, I am not against drinking milk and don’t know why some vegans oppose that. Drinking milk is no problem if the offspring are given first priority. Some consider eating egg is bad but as per my opinion, since you are not killing an animal with fully developed nervous system, eating egg is no problem.

[@js1mom]

19:25: love the "daftness"...

[@TheCompleteGuitarist]

Would love to see Zoe take on Mic the Vegan

[@LaneCodeRedCarnivore]

She would destroy him , politely with humor... 🤪

[@pepper419]

Actually, coconut oil is the highest saturated fat content of all the oils and fats at about 95%. Not bad eh.

[@toni4729]

I'm allergic to it, but if I could fry my eggs in it I would. It's not bad stuff.

[@stephentroake7155]

37:30 "It does not go in any form into your bloodstream". I'm a confused layperson. Postprandial blood lipid levels are higher than before a meal, right? More so after a fatty meal, right? Scratching my head here.

[@thalesnemo2841]

After eating the energy transfer train starts with the “chylomicrons, chylomicron remnants, VLDL, VLDL remnants (IDL), LDL, HDL, “ www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK305896/ Image chart of lipid family of particles (density vs diameter) images.app.goo.gl/yxsqyb42KKPoWGjW7

[@robertoingenitoiseppato6177]

Thank you Zoe, i just found on KZbin 2 days ago. I am amazed, impressed, happy, shocked...because it's true what you talk about: low on carbs and fiber. High on fat, protein. Thank you so si much. I've also found Dr. Paul Mason, Anthony Chaffe. I began listening, back in November, videos from Robert Lustig, Dr. Eric Berg. What I found in this months is that, in the modern and Occidental world, why don't know what to eat, when to eat, how much, the combinations that we can do...I've lost the common sense. This video of one of your conference it's clarifying: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r3_bmod7Z8aoptE

[@mandelharvey3429]

Give me liberty And Martha Washington Goes to war.

[@jacekszczecinski2766]

Veganism is not a diet, it is a pagan religion.

[@contrarian604]

It is a political agenda whose primary focus is not optimized human health.

[@toni4729]

We made cattle and sheep. They were never wild and they deserve to be on the land eating grass.

[@josephwanjiku6853]

But according to Dr B, we should not be eating hybrids.

[@toni4729]

@@josephwanjiku6853 Everything is a hybrid. Even us.

[@MrDavidknigge]

Bring on the vegan trolls.

[@thalesnemo2841]

@David Knigge Launch the carrots at the cabbage heads !😜😜

[@11Acky]

Vegan, Village idiot who can't hunt or fish

[@helenalovelock1030]

😂😂😂

[@dunklaw]

Randomized studies are not the only quality solution & meta analysis can be just as skewed as any other kind.

[@thalesnemo2841]

@Clarissa 1986 Hear, Hear! Vegans are blind followers of a religion not science!

[@HillbillyYEEHAA]

They love massaging and fiddling data to suit thier agenda. Alot of vegan studies are just dogshit.

[@LaneCodeRedCarnivore]

Meta is a collection of very bad studies..

[@yoso585]

Yes, but when not one of them can demonstrate a common claim, it says something.

[@Britonbear]

I think keto is affecting my hearing.

[@yoso585]

People that would consider listening to these types of talks without a good set of headphones need to get their heads examined for sure

[@Knaeben]

I can't eat chicken skin. Too many years of conditioning.

[@harryviking6347]

My asian neighbor girl say she do not eat chicken skin because they do not take shower!!! LOL!!

[@BigSlimyBlob]

When I was young, chicken skin was my favorite food. I always used to say that, when I grew up, I was going to order a big plate full of chicken skins. Then I grew up and never did it. I figure that the restaurant would charge me for a full meal for every skin and it'd end up costing a fortune and I don't have the budget. Three or four times a year though, I still go to that restaurant to grab some chicken and eating the skin is always an incredible experience.

[@HillbillyYEEHAA]

@@BigSlimyBlob you reminded me of a all you can eat buffet I went to with my mum. There was a women there, peeling all the chicken forthe skin. Just had a plate of chicken skin 😂 😂 😂 everything she touched had to be binned.

[@BigSlimyBlob]

@@HillbillyYEEHAA What a waste...

[@helenalovelock1030]

Try it really crispy is sooo much better. It’s like crisps

[@therorysnake]

The arguements outlined here fly directly in the face of scientific consensus, this lady does not represent main stream clinical and nutritional literature, don't be fooled by that combination of letters at the end of her name. Her PhD was an attempt to debunk health guidelines released in the 70s and 80s. That's a long long time in modern scientific endeavours.

[@TJMRBUCK]

History is full of great scientists who fought their whole life against consensus and mainstream.

[@therorysnake]

@@TJMRBUCK History is also full of hacks who do shit for personal profit, doing more to obscure truth that to reveal it. Also, science of course welcomes alternate view points, but you better goddamn sure be evidence based, then a nobel prize will be in the post. I don't think her calibre as a research scientist will be exonerated with more time and more evidence. Scientists who fight against mainstream scientific consensus in their field are far more likely to be mistaken rather than geniuses surpassing all others in their field.

[@dalin6275]

therorysnake I would genuinely be interested in the references for the scientific consensus’s you mentioned. The literature i have been able to find doesn’t disprove her points. Thank you for your time and consideration!

[@therorysnake]

@@dalin6275 Yep sure no problem. So my main issue here is that Zoe Harcombe is purporting that CHD incidence is not increased by saturated fat intake. The European Society of Cardiology states that there are strong, consistent, and graded relationships between saturated fat intake, blood cholesterol levels, and the mass occurrence of cardiovascular disease and that the relationships are accepted as causal. Most medical, scientific, heart-health, governmental, and professional authorities agree that saturated fat is a risk factor for cardiovascular disease, including the World Health Organization, the Food and Nutrition Board of the National Academy of Medicine, the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics, the Dietitians of Canada, the Association of UK Dietitians, the American Heart Association, the British Heart Foundation, the Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada, the World Heart Federation, the British National Health Service, the United States Food and Drug Administration and the European Food Safety Authority. "Effects of saturated fatty acids on serum lipids and lipoproteins: a systematic review and regression analysis" is a well cited study demonstrating saturated fatty acids increase low-density lipoprotein (LDL) cholesterol, a strong risk factor for CVD/CHD, if you'd like a specific paper to look over. Remember: Saturated fat refers to a number of different molecules in different foods that vary in their health impact, so bear in mind that this relationship has a much finer level to be looked at, eg coconut oil is high in saturated fat but the specific types are less impactful on CHD incidence than the types found in animal meat.

[@lindamcneil711]

The biggest problem here is “scientific consensus “. Good science does not work in consensus, politics do. Science works with evidence, data, and the validity of science. Unfortunately, the dietary guidelines are not established on strong science, but strong politics. Consider the scientific method… not politics.

[@brendabrown1691]

This whole debate shouldn't be about what we actually choose to eat but rather what we should eat & how we obtain our food. Ethics, environmental damage & sustainability should be the primary concerns of a so called enlightened society. We are guided by our egotism that the world & the creatures inhabiting it should serve us in some way. To this end we routinely destroy habitats be it to cultivate plants or keep food animals. Attitudes need to change. Commercial farmers have NO defence since it is farming itself that is the problem. Regarding nutrition there is no requirement for farm raised meat or poultry, eggs or dairy products. We can just as easily obtain essential nutrients from wild caught fish & insects. In fact the quality is higher & more nutrient dense than anything we obtain from farm animals. No creatures need to be enslaved to serve us. As for cattle fertilising the soil, they can do that if left to their own devices in a natural habitat. Meat eating is a poor justification for letting animals do what they would do without human interference. Regarding fruit & veg again the problem is large scale farming. Especially foods of little nutritional value, including most fruit, cereals & those used as cattle feed. If just the latter were abolished there would be a food surplus that far exceeds the requirements of the current world population. No need for any more habitat destruction. Sourcing nutrients from algae & micro organisms would also go a long way to reducing environmental impact. To summarise, there are NO health benefits & serious ethical concerns regarding raising animals for food. Neither is there any justification as to which animals we consider deserve this fate. Dogs, cats & cute talking african greys versus cows, pigs & chickens being prime examples. Anyone says otherwise is simply justifying animal abuse for the sake of convenience, habit & taste. Agricultural practices need to change. Individuals can help diminish the impact of large scale farming by growing their own produce or/and buying locally from small holdings. I am an ova pesca keto vegan forager. Biomedical scientist & holistic medicine practitioner.

[@helenalovelock1030]

So you are killing and eating fish for your own benefit.

[@katrienopsomer8012]

Wauw, did you do all of the calculations yourself? What about all the animals that are killed by big harvesting machinery.? As long as you do not kill the animals in person it is not a problem I suppose. Maybe you read The vegetarian Myth.

[@brooke1548]

I don't understand why you couldn't just turn to more ethical farming methods? Nobody should kill to make a living.

[@brooke1548]

@Clarissa 1986 give me an example. I mean, we're different to animals in that they have to kill for food... We have a choice not to kill and people still choose to inflict horrible pain upon them, ending their life for a beef burger that's going to last no more than ten minutes. You can debate this all day on either side of the argument but it's as simple as you're ending a life when you don't have to.

[@brooke1548]

@Clarissa 1986 that's odd... I've been on a vegan diet for some time now and regularly have my bloods done, just for my own peace of mind and I've never once been low in anything. But then again, even if I was there's plenty of ways to improve that. As for cholesterol being the source of sexual hormones... My boyfriend certainly isn't complaining 😂 Clarissa, if at any time you feel like opening your mind I'm sure there is plenty of people living off a plant based diet that would be willing to help you, including myself 😊

[@CooXaBeatz]

Plant industry kills animals too, and a lot of them. i was a vegan for ethics but today i regret it, my health collapsed. When my health was destroyed , i had to choose, either im going to kill / eat animals to live or im gonna be fucked as a moral person. Diet of mostly carbs is a recipe for disaster. Trust your gut. it's not ethical to destroy your health either cause that's animal suffering too. be careful ;)

[@barbarahorsch508]

Plants don’t want to die. They don’t want to be eaten either. All things have a life cycle. All living organisms can live and die or they can live and die with a purpose. I prefer to have purpose and to give them purpose. I give thanks to the lord for the food that gave their lives so I can live.

[@Knaeben]

The more ethical you get with the food, the more expensive it gets. Since profit controls everything, and the unethical way is the cheapest way, it will always be around. We have to vote with our money and buy the pricier stuff, but most people don't care.