Groups, Tags, or Scenes? - Skill Builder

[@raulc.]

I consider myself in advance user of SketchUp. I probably use it anywhere between 4 to 10 times a month for a couple of hours each time. I learned something valuable in this video. I am going to incorporate the scenes feature. Thank you very much and keep up the Great work.

[@rommerts]

This makes mastering my designs very easy. I tested with the combinations groups, tag and scenes. For me personally, the combination of tags and/or groups is fast and powerful. Scenes makes things complicated for simple designs, I think. But that is of course personal. Thank you Aaron!

[@rlopez551]

Aaron, your awesome! Thanks for the video, really helped!!

[@t.e.1189]

I wanted to thank you guys for all your tutorials. I feel they are the best on youtube. You often say you guys read the comments and want suggestions. Well, hopefully you’ll read this and maybe even make some kind of response. I'm a 61 year old who uses technology but struggles with it along the way. I'm sure I am not the only one like this. I am a finish carpenter by trade, but as I slowly approach retiring I want to start doing woodworking full time. Sketchup would be so helpful when drawing up shop plans, if ONLY I could get comfortable with it. If I could succeed with the Free version, I would seriously consider upgrading to Pro version. So here are a couple of thoughts for you guys to seriously consider. Hopefully. First of all, it would be nice for us to have a series on using just the SketchUp Free version. It's discouraging to watch a video design for the Pro version only to find once again you can't do that in the free version, or at least only to a very limited degree and in a different way. Unless I know I can get proficient at using the free version, I will never buy the Pro version. You could clearly explain how to use the features and then briefly mention the additional things you could do with the Pro version. It wold be a great selling point if you ask me. Second, why do you guys make it so hard to access the free version? I always have a hard time finding where it is hiding. That is also very frustrating. Seems like promoting the Free version would be a great way to introduce people to this wonderful software, so why would you make it difficult for newcomers to access and learn it? Doesn’t make sense at all. And please don’t bring up the free trial version for Pro. That simply is not going to work for an older person whose learning curve is much much greater than younger people or older ones growing up playing with software. The 7 day trial is a joke for us, especially working full time and having other responsibilities. I have VERY little time each week to devote to this. It would take many months if not more for me to decide if it would be right for me with my limited knowledge of such things. Third, I have been trying to watch as many of these tutorials as possible. And again I have to say they are very well done. They are my preferred videos to watch on youtube. I am slowly learning from them. Thank you very much. But it is frustrating that the Square One or even the Skill Builder series is not numbered. It would be SO much more effective if there were a suggested order in to which to watch them. Perhaps they were released in the order in which make logical sense from first starting to use the software and slowly advance to building key skills first and then additional skills, but unless the videos are numbered or dated there is no way of knowing. From my observation the playlist are not in any particular order to help in this manner. It also makes the playlist lack continuity throughout them. Please carefully consider these suggestions for us not so young people. Thank you for reading this if you have.

[@SketchUp]

Thanks for watching and providing feedback. If you haven't done so already, check out: learn.sketchup.com/ - there are numbered lessons for the SketchUp Desktop Fundamentals as well as some lessons specific to SU for Web (ie SU Free). If you run into any trouble at any time, there are loads of helpful people on our forum: forums.sketchup.com/ that would be happy to support your learning journey further.

[@t.e.1189]

Yes I did. Thank you. That is where I started. And I did learn a lot there. But only the first chapter or two are done. But yes that is exactly what I was referring to by having a more systematic approach to the videos. Do you know when the rest of the chapters will be completed? @@SketchUp

[@t.e.1189]

Also, Thank you for taking the time to read my long comment and replying.@@SketchUp

[@garyspeed8961]

I think that also highlighted why we need folders in scenes.... as you cannot afford to have the camera unlocked in a scene when linking your layout ! let alone how long the scenes list might become if we used scenes as you suggest as well as for our layout documents... Now if Layout could independently control the scene (viewport) camera without breaking link to the SU model data.. that might be ideal (Trimble has done it for tags, styles, linetyles) then scenes in SU would be just how you manage the model... Viewports in Layout would be just how you present the model...fundamental data management

[@alangray5535]

I ran into one problem with Outliner. I used Outliner instead of Tags, creating a hierarchy of groups, subgroups, sub-subgroups then create several scenes by showing/hiding with Outliner. I created an ALL ON Scene for reference, and an EDIT Scene to create Scenes in. I create a new scene in my "EDIT scene" then Add a scene from it, giving it an appropriate name based on what it depicts. I have a house plan with 20 scenes. Here is the problem I ran into: If I create a new image at any level of the hierarchy and create a component out of it, it simultaneously enables itself to show up in every Scene (with a few exceptions). I fixed it by 'hiding' the component (with the Outliner visibility button) after saving and naming it, then cut it entirely out of the drawing "hidden", then "paste it in place" again, right where I created it, then unhide it with the Outliner visibility button. Now it only shows up in the Scene I created it in. If I don't do this, I have to go back through all my Scenes to check where it popped up and individually, toggle it's invisibility off, and Update every scene it automatically showed up in.

[@remcoh5793]

I'm more of an outliner guy myself (and you could have grouped those chairs ;)) However great video once again and I guess the point is more or less, bind structual things through groups en visual relations through tags. which is great practice. I'll start to push myself to using more tags.

[@rjoubs1792]

Thank you! I have been searching for the tag solution!

[@johnjlopez]

we need folders for scenes like trimble recently added for tags. The folders could be viewed as a dropdown when along the top toolbar.

[@t.e.1189]

Hey, I like the wall paper!

[@krypticvoyce]

Did layers change to tags? I have used several versions of sketchup and loved the simplicity of it. I started using it again in 23 and now 24 and it isn’t listed in windows or toolbars.

[@SketchUp]

Layers were changed to Tags awhile ago.

[@nourmohamad2284]

thank you for the best video

[@Alastair_Freebird]

Helpful clarification thanks!

[@alexwhite5724]

Can you tag an individual item ? Like a floor ? How to assign a tag???

[@huzaifamomin794]

When you open any option, like Edit then it's back side model looks blur (In this video at 2:59 minutes) how to active this setting.

[@cacho53tube]

Question. When we hide the components or anything we hide, is the program still processing the hide data and the os runs at the same speed of processing or runs faster because is less graffiti data to deal with it, Thanks

[@remcoh5793]

In my experience hiding thing can really speed up Sketchup in big models. I'm guessing it still does some calculations to the hidden geometry but not having to 'render' things really helps.

[@LaurienCantrelle]

Thanks ! 😉

[@seksantipapala1878]

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[@hansfritzmiller1846]

Hey Aaron, it looks like your dad found the paint in the garage you spilled.