F-35 Lightning II Vs Su-57 Felon | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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[@YankeeVatnik1917]

Hey why don't they put the anti missile laser on the su57 it has? No other fighter jet has it except air force one. They just put it on the ka 42 attack heli and they fired 18 stingers and we're unable to hit it. I mean I guess it would make it in fun to deal with but it was like playing with Pavel Bure in NHL 97. He could just skate through entire team and score almost instantly

[@ItzRetro2019]

I’ve been saying this for a while but i would love to see a F22/F35 strike against chinese naval assets using LRASM, and J20/J11 fighters defending 🇨🇳🇺🇸

[@suny1265]

What is the song at the end?

[@stephencollins9062]

@@YankeeVatnik1917 yeah I seen that Russian's are crazy amazing at mathematics

[@Anarchy_420]

Please fly The F-16I Sufa with Python 5's VS The Gripen with IRIS-T's!🙏👍

[@Thomas_Geist]

If you see something that looks about the size of a goose on radar but is flapping its wing fast enough to travel at Mack 2...it's probably not a goose.

[@skylarhairston3029]

mack lol

[@Justyboy93]

this had me laughing out loud!

[@MichaelRosenblum_Emp500]

Source?

[@arkie87]

@@skylarhairston3029mack honk honk 2

[@Mister_Belvidere]

I wonder if an S400 could shoot down a goose.

[@inebriatedengineering6288]

I remember I left a comment requesting this video, and someone said it was stupid. So thank you, Growling Sidewinder, for being stupid.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

looool all the best man.

[@canberroo2509]

Geez. The Felon cockpit texture quality leaves A LOT to be desired... Feels like something from gaming in the 90s

[@Jake_Garcia]

It probably was developed from the 90s 😂 jokes aside, i havent seen a lot of images or documentation from the su57 cockpit compared to nato planes though

[@ex4lt341]

It is under development. A dedicated team was working on it but it stopped a few months ago, so CA is now on it's own for both coding and texturing... And as you can guess the priority isn't a good looking cockpit

[@OzcarMike641]

The engine sound in the cockpit also sounds like "at times" a fly-by

[@potatopilot1699]

as you can imagine, a classified russian 5th gen fighter isnt exactly easy to get hands on data on lol

[@Juan-gt9hn]

@@potatopilot1699cant be because every commentator here on youtube knows the exact spec of all these aircraft lol

[@ItzRetro2019]

long awaited F35 videos!!!! love them I’ve also been saying this for a while but i would love to see an F22 and F35 strike against chinese naval assets using LRASM, and J20 and J11 fighters defending 🇨🇳🇺🇸

[@jolloffnr]

Best one yet

[@0neBadRabbit]

This. Needs. To happen.

[@knndyskful]

👏 hell yea

[@mrunknownog9616]

Am in support of the this.... F35 Vs J20 BVR

[@rocketrockstar8171]

Want this!

[@King_Dusty_Of_Pookytopia]

Looking forward to a complete F-35 model. The current version being used, in DCS, is severely handicapped.

[@sbg911]

💯this.

[@HardCor3Essam]

​@@Boeing_hitsquad well also the su 57 have irst so basically all the russian fighters in dcs is handicapped

[@MrEshah]

Atleast they're flying in dcs

[@potatopilot1699]

highly unlikely since its classified lol

[@HardCor3Essam]

@@potatopilot1699 well we can speculate it range between 50-70km Same with ols50m on the su 57

[@treeWasNice]

Day 39 of asking for AH-64 Apache versus SU-57 Felon

[@Maxthepro1012]

LIKED👍🏻

[@halokid15jg]

Why ?

[@treeWasNice]

@@halokid15jg It would be funny to see an AH-64 kill on a Felon. Also, it would be a generally funny video.

[@YugoslavGamer]

@@treeWasNice And how would apache kill a felon?

[@treeWasNice]

@@YugoslavGamer With the help of GS

[@theunseenwalrus5768]

I've never seen you fly from the F-35's perspective. Could you do that?

[@mathijeba5375]

@@CH1K3N99 I searched f35 cockpit in google and it's look kinda like the su57 cockpit

[@jacoproita9010]

​@@mathijeba5375yeah but its cooler, and a cool thing is that it has no HUD. Why? Cuz it has a 400k dollars helmet with everything you need, that is your HUD, and it also lets you see thru the plane itself due to cameras installed all over the aircraft

[@myronplatte8354]

@@jacoproita9010 The SU-57 has the same thing, but a HUD as well. Redundancy.

[@h8GW]

@myronplatte8354 The Su-57 also has a framed canopy, so I'm still very skeptical about its stealth, even if the exposed screws were only a prototype thing.

[@vividthespis]

Could feel the tension in this one. Especially in your voice. Toxic is also a solid driver. Great Vid as always.

[@markymarknj]

Yeah, this one went down to the wire!

[@gctzx]

I'd like to see this again without the SAMs, but with a wingman.

[@slowhornet4802]

Another question: can real aircraft switch to missile guidance mode without having a missile fired? To trigger a launch warning without wasting a missile? STT lock is not the same. I mean in theory it should be possible for the lauching aircraft; and impossible for the targeted aircraft to know if there is a missile in the air.

[@iamxploding6451]

​@@slowhornet4802 shit got me thinking

[@SOAP2401]

@@slowhornet4802 probably not because the launch warning comes from the rwr sensing that something is tracking you but also getting closer to you at a rapid rate.

[@slowhornet4802]

@@SOAP2401 But a semi-active missile wouldn't emit, it's just the launching aircraft's radar changing modes, triggering the launch warning.

[@lcspells6005]

Dude , you have the greatest DCS videos

[@rickhewett9537]

Agree, I just started watching them this year and seen several different channels, GS is best.

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you both, you guys are the best.

[@cmw12]

GS has the situational awareness of a god. How he can know what is safe, what is dangerous, and when to expect to live, die, or win is beyond me. I’m sure it just takes practice, but so much of this BVR stuff is just crazy….

[@No1harris_98]

I got it see the EF-2000 typhoon and F35B over the weekend and an UK airshow, and it was honestly amazing!

[@highminded8279]

I love how the attitude indicator on the Felon panel doesn't move... As a pilot that really, really bothers me lol

[@markymarknj]

I liked the Felon's HUD better than those in US aircraft.

[@DZ-1987]

I want an attitude indicator.

[@zombieapocalipse2020]

​@@DZ-1987eah if i had one it would go off the scale everytime i see the missues

[@MrVolodus]

@@DZ-1987 Like Doom2 attitude? :D

[@albania121]

The attitude indicator typically works differently on Russian and Western aircraft. I remember that some Russian pilots crashed a plane because of that.

[@aceblaneescabusa5371]

Great mastery on the Felon gameplay, GS. Considering my 28th mention about the MiG-29 vs this jet you used, I'm thinking if you can fly the MiG-29 against the Su-57. Both have technological differences but are maneuverable in a dogfight, so I thought if you can engage in a BVR combat against it with/without firing radar missiles, you will end up in a final merging boss fight to prove again the belief that "it's not the plane, it's the pilot." I hope you can reach this out from me because I commented this repeatedly. Great flying!

[@NobleHusky]

Just finished watching the F-35 vs F-14 dogfight from last year, and now it's the F-35 vs the Felon!

[@infidel24]

Thank you, I was truly hoping you'd be in the F-35. But, I'll take what you give us.

[@Shoot_and_Scoot]

Just witnessed the f35 and f22 at the airshow. Just staggering to see them fly.

[@debbiestimac5175]

Their movements in the Z axis are mesmerizing. Float like a butterfly... and swat you out of the sky!

[@jacoproita9010]

I saw some F-35s fly last week at the 100 years anniversary of the italian air force airshow, and god damn the sound of their engines is amazing, you can definetly feel that its the strongest single engine installed in any plane ever

[@aurobinson9309]

They really need to update the F35 would love to see more of it

[@coolsquad7428]

it is pretty old tbh and the aim120 isn't accurate on the f35 as on other fighter jets

[@acidbot666]

I like your self consolation statement... 🤣🤣🤣

[@mikegargan967]

Check out block 4.

[@deezus6926]

How come you don’t ever fly the f-35

[@calneigbauer7542]

Probably cause it’s not a real model yet

[@leahanderson4900]

@@calneigbauer7542 well his friends fly it

[@kraemerdustin]

@@leahanderson4900we don’t know how the cockpit looks to give a true vision so😊 that’s why

[@j.k1688]

​@@kraemerdustinsame with the su57 and a few others.

[@j.k1688]

He does not like the F-35 so he avoids it, atleast thats my best guess.

[@BloodySmartie1]

I'd like to see you in the role of the F-35

[@dim_mal]

The sound of the su-57 passing by is pure eargasm

[@ashhawk2346]

Notice you can hear the same whining sound while flying in the cockpit too, it repeats every couple seconds at times.

[@dim_mal]

@@ashhawk2346 Since its a new model, I believe its a bug that must be fixed. Its quite a specific sound which is only audible when you are standing outside and the aircraft passes by

[@ignacio3890]

​@@dim_mal The. Sound it's made by the krr active radar bloquer

[@FlyLeah]

@@ashhawk2346 that sounds like a bug

[@ashhawk2346]

@@FlyLeah Indeed it does Leah.

[@phillm156]

I’ve never seen an F35 win any kind of battle. DCS pretty much condemned it from the get go.

[@dantruong2582]

Problem is that so much of the F35 is still classified. We just guessing what it can do.

[@phillm156]

@@dantruong2582 yup, they are giving it the speed of an A10, the turn rate of a Mig 25, Stealth of an F15, and the Weapons from the Lightening 1…..they just forgot which order😆

[@specrtre]

Definitely feel like in all the F35 videos it doesn't perform at all what we see the F35 do now.. they're more like the first blocks with all the limitations lol

[@VA128Kaiser]

Plus they don’t have any of the fancy defensive gadgets like that pod it can deploy behind it that mimics it’s own radar signature

[@LRRPFco52]

What if DCS is just a big fishing pot to try to get people to compromise capabilities with retarded videos like this one where Su-57 is detecting and tracking an F-35 at BVR, firing R-77-1 at BVR with perfect solutions, as if the tiny RCS wasn't even there. This one was so many levels of full-retard.

[@spectre0969]

Where’s the civilian GPS taped to the cockpit?💀

[@vaclavkolar6750]

I thought it was strictly su-25 thing but... if it works it works i guess. 😂

[@thedausthed]

@@vaclavkolar6750 No, Su-34

[@rick7424]

​@@mikes989 Wagner does not have any jets.

[@Someone-lr6gu]

@@rick7424 They did and there were videos of them being used.

[@GrantvsMaximvs]

Hell with it: BF-109 Kurfrost vs. EF-2000 Typhoon. Old Luftwaffe vs. New.

[@hackerino9707]

Kurfürst

[@WinVisten]

I think I'm not the only one who would love to see the F-35 or the J-20 from the inside.

[@SSJ4Brohan]

What's with the SU-57 fly by sounds while in the cockpit? Lol

[@user-wy8cs9wd2m]

these are the sounds of death. Lol

[@warhawk4494]

Great video. Rafal VS Mig29 or su27 would be cool.

[@tr0llaccount]

I keep hoping that you’ll be the one flying the F35

[@MichaelGentry-le9nj]

DCS treats the F-35 like a dog but I got a feeling the F-35A/B/C variants will do A LOT BETTER if engaged in real air to air combat…

[@artemlitvinenko1328]

Thank you GS! I was requesting this for two months now❤️❤️

[@steverogers5956]

The any place anyone will ever see a SU-57 is in a simulator.

[@magnanimus9692]

We haven't had a WWII or WWI vid in a while. I miss those.

[@seangall7637]

I definetly chalk that up to pilot over plane... Nicely done GS... Cheers!

[@beatboxbuggi6884]

Ok, who’s that guy who’s been asking for this for so long?? It’s finally here!!

[@NoobAlike]

the sound seems buggy, I keep hearing Su-57 flyover screech while in the cockpit

[@8BitThoughts]

I was wondering what that noise was!

[@shlap_cam23]

TECHNICAL DESIGN

[@u4ia_fubar_75]

Quick question, are the felon's cockpit instruments from what we know and photos, or insider information? Very curious 🧐

[@maverickmissile801]

I'm pretty sure they are just for convenience of modding

[@geography5637]

photos and what we know you can literally see it on google

[@karbonfiba2044]

Russia has a nice plane on their hands....but are they able to maintenance and maintain the planes which has been an issue with Russia

[@dim_mal]

Damn bro, this is definitely the dumbest thing I’ve read today

[@red2001ss]

The standard Surface to Air doctrine for US Navy ships for inbound threats is "Shoot, Shoot, Look, Shoot". Thats a 2 Missile Salvo, Wait and look for a kill confirmation, if target remains, shoot again.

[@zaratul187]

Area where SAMs are able to provide cover is called the Missile Engagement Zone (MEZ)

[@IRLFlightSim]

boredom away in one click. Love the vids, would like to request bandit unknown against you flying su27/30/35 your choice. Thanks! have a great day!

[@ChefsAssistant]

Hey, GS. Use the F-35A against something for once. I love how everyone thinks its such a flop. I guess every single country that is chomping at the bit to buy it up must be a bunch of fools, lol.

[@u4ia_fubar_75]

It would be so cool if there was a simulator for the Falklands 1982 as my dad was there for the Royal field artillery. There was air to air, ground and ship battles.👍

[@stephencollins9062]

The Harrier's smashed the French mirage's

[@Mthammere2010]

​@@stephencollins9062showtime 112 has videos on those dog fights. The Argentine aircraft didn't even have Radar. And when they didn't need it, their missiles were rear aspect only.

[@simplydarkhalf3974]

I don't know if there's dynamic weather in dcs, but a thunderstorm fight would be cool

[@mantisushi]

Been waiting on this thanks for listening to your viewers:)

[@knndyskful]

I’d love to see the F117 doing bvr with AMRAAMs :D

[@MissileMan1]

I would love to see a trio of 1 f22 and 2 F35 Vs 4 Su-57. It would be cool to see how it would turn out.

[@sKarr6988]

F22 and f35 wins

[@oleg1981]

@@sKarr6988LOL

[@dwarow2508]

The Su57 would win

[@sKarr6988]

@@dwarow2508 naaah

[@dwarow2508]

@@sKarr6988 Yeah

[@mattcampbell5148]

I wouldn’t be surprised if the 35s have the capability of locking on and firing a missile in any direction, even at aircraft on their 6

[@Joewest2k11]

Dude, you should really be casted on a planned Top Gun sequels in the future!

[@Skyfaller2010]

Damn....you're just wicked. Love your style. You know what's what and that's what makes the difference. Knowing how to use your defenses, your SA and the ability to read your opponent makes you one lethal combatant. When you're serious....no one can beat you. You could fly a kite and kick ass. Awesome sauce! Kudos to you.

[@murphyslaw7815]

It's the markup up modern warfare. A stinger missle cost already an insane 80k per in the 80's. It's over 400k now with little improvements

[@myprivatewar]

aircraft/avionics: 🇺🇸 total support system including dollars: 🇺🇸 pilots: 🇺🇸 tactics: 🇺🇸 total viable air assets available: 🇺🇸 get some

[@khoatran-sv7je]

Dude the sounds the S300/400 makes is so dope!

[@marioelburro1492]

Huge fan of the su-57. Kinda perplexed because people wanted to see GS use the f35 when i find it odd when dcs youtubers dont use their skill in opposing aircraft. Obviously we'll never know the true stats of both aircraft but lets enjoy what we can get

[@nekko5778]

most of his viewers are probably american so thats why but i feel like he mostly plays in the us aircraft so its a nice change of pace

[@markeldamgaard]

The SU57 needs an interior update. It looks like really low quality graphics for plastic

[@cuteshadow]

Seeing the representation of a F35 (while they built F114, B2 F22 to learn from) equal in stealth to a bigger and basically first try Russian Stealth jet seems a bit off to me. So i assume official data of the russian jet is overselling it a lot. Seeing their invincible Hypersonic missle being shot down by patriot might be a hint towards those figures too.

[@Paul_Sergeyev]

Another long time requested thing is for you to fly the I-16 against the F-22 or Su-57! Could you do it please?)

[@omaral-maitah181]

First time seeing the F35 please do VS Su35 next 🤩

[@jacob_be_ez2374]

Love how you play always play to your strengths

[@kaananr5595]

so intriguing watching this battle against 2 super advanced jets, and that push with the aggression at the end with the splash was just beautiful! Love the commentary and defense that was is in this fight!

[@jamesarnott6262]

Fantastic video. Thanks for sharing.

[@Nick-rb1vk]

It’s about dang time! Let’s gooooo!

[@louv4437]

GS refuses to get into a F35 lol

[@gerrya4818]

does DCS model the RCS of each plane the same from all angles?

[@Raz.C]

Heyya Mr. Sidewinder Any chance you could ever do a HARM launch against an aircraft? In the 1st Gulf War, an F-4 fired a HARM at Iraqi ground radars, but the missile got 'distracted' by the radar of a nearby B-52, targetted the american bomber instead and blew its tail off. I'd LOVE to see if DCS has little details like this, where the powerful radars of the F-15 or the F-22 are powerful enough to act as beacons for a HARM, passively homing in on its radar emissions. I'm not even sure how it would work, really. Maybe just dumb-fire a HARM in the direction of an F-15? Or target the HARM at a ground radar, but have the F-15 fly to intercept the point where the missile was launched from, so that it's directly in the missile's path and see if the missile takes the bait? Even if you don't end up doing this test, I still love your videos, dude!

[@gonnabeadoctorsoon2]

Thank you for another awesome video! Have an awesome day

[@shannonspear8751]

These long range fights sound like I’m in a hearing Test 🦻

[@pacifistidentitarian549]

Would love to see Growlingsidewinder and showtime112 do a collab vid

[@RupertFoulmouth]

The graphics for the Su-57 seems less detailed than normal. Is that because it is new and still a bit of a work in progress?

[@SPFLDAngler]

Can you start using the Controls Indicator? Pressing Rctrl + Enter? I'd really like to see your HOTAS manipulation during the sorties. I think it would help a lot of people(including myself) to see how you move the stick and control the throttle during flight and BVR and WVR fighting.

[@PatriotPlus179]

The Patriot just works! Might I remind you it was first developed in the early 1960's.

[@garynew9637]

Haha

[@yellow_creeper11]

Come on! Why did you have to bee in the 57?

[@rick7424]

He seems to be insulting the F-35 in every video that features it.

[@clivereid]

Hey GS, do you modify any of the mods you use (e.g. adjust the RCS values) for your videos, or are they exactly the same as the mods made available to the ordinary DCS player?

[@warlordgames4004]

When the F4 phantom comes out you need to do the F-22/ f35 vs 2 F4 phantom and see if you can pull the maneuver that happened and see if you could sneak up on them without them knowing

[@MrComplainer]

89 days of asking come true :) Thanks GS

[@DuvalDashCams]

What combat simulator are you using?

[@tzeffsmainchannel]

13:16 I love that expression! 😂

[@DChrls]

The nickname of the F35 almost guarantees no pilot named Amy will ever fly one.

[@RDC2003]

4:12 "A legendary sound"

[@LuisAFigueroa]

Indeed!

[@maverickmissile801]

ITS FINALLY HERE LET'S GO

[@Jonathan_Lippert]

Can we have a video where you see if the A-10 split throttle nicely ? :p Little dogfight in the A-10

[@leek6654]

have you ever flown the f35? I dont think ive seen you fly it before.

[@Specter690655]

S-300/400 must be low/middle range cover with Pantsir/Buk and work with it

[@brettbradford3504]

Meeh... on the modeling. The horizontal gyro isn't even working. What do you do IFR ? Just started checking out DCS. Could figure the planes out, but can't figure out how to really get it all up and running, I'm a dinosaur, but I can get it with a little direction. Maybe soon. Somebody needs to sneak a 152 model in that does mach 4 and shoots missles BVR. That would be interesting to watch.

[@SargentAUZZIE]

yesss finnaly i have been waiting for this video for soo long !!! been arguing with mates on what would happen haha

[@onyxflicku610]

So happy that you are flying some Red4 planes! ❤

[@balajidongare4591]

@GrowlingSidewinder what the sound track name

[@DB-gl1js]

Would rather GS be in the F-35 for the fight

[@Supershade9421]

You're teasing us at this point lol

[@stephenroach8033]

Maverick was referring to MTI. Moving Target Indicator.

[@solarflare623]

Could you do some more dogfights? I would love to see bf-109 or fw-109 vs. eurofighter

[@Backseatercomedian]

Confession; I do not like the F-35, I’m sorry, I’ll see myself out, I just don’t.

[@doobas2171]

Then you don’t know enough about it

[@alondjeckto]

Respect bro

[@Backseatercomedian]

Well I’ll be perfectly honest, I’m a dogfight junkie, and the F-35 is a hybrid of A/G support, and weapons employment from a long range. I don’t like the C variant’s lack of a cannon and I like planes that can dogfight, the F-35 is a manned stealth UAV in the shape of a stealth fighter.

[@doobas2171]

@@Backseatercomedian Then explain the over 20:1 KD ratio in every red flag exercise?

[@aidanwilliams9452]

​@@Backseatercomedian Have you seen it fly or seen some of the specs? It absolutely can dogfight extremely well. To say it can't would be to say the F-16 or F/A-18 can't either

[@MrSeany05]

What program do you use?

[@_cyantist]

yo that dude finally got it

[@thatkidhuey9632]

USE THE F35 DUDE

[@SON-hz8tt]

Need more of these

[@Yourlunchisready]

You should do F-22 vs F-14 rate fight on the deck!

[@dustinbuck6433]

Would love to see you in a 35

[@atlas5119]

Bro we really need to see you fly the F-35

[@MrKnoxguy101]

Amy McPhatty pants! That Felon screams doesn’t it.. wicked.