F-15C Eagle Vs Su-35 Flanker-E | BVR | Beyond Visual Range | Digital Combat Simulator | DCS |

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[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Check out the Store: growling-sidewinder.creator-spring.com/ So I've been really struggling with performance with my DCS and OBS running at the same time and It's been resulting in some really low FPS issues, I finally MIGHT have sorted it out having Identified that the issue was within my OBS I believe. Please let me know your thoughts on this video and its "frames". Thank you for watching and I'll see you in the next one. Much Love.

[@ryanmcginn2000]

Fantastic GS!

[@miguelangeldiazdiaz3]

Hello! very good video!!! As always, please I would like to see you pilot the F-4E Phantom II and also the F-35 Lightning when they become available on DCS.

[@Anarchy_420]

F-22 Raptor VS Nine North Korean MIG-29's BVR

[@Anarchy_420]

Please fly The MIG-28 against The MIG-29 guns only Dogfight! Differential Thrust The MIG-28/F-5 Russian Top Gun! Both flying Black Paint Red Star Skins! Like the idea of Older Fictional VS Newer Real, would be a great challenge, and entertaining af!

[@프레디khjfreddy]

I actually noticed it was smoother. Also it feels like there is more motion blur added? Not sure but it looks really good

[@danpatterson8009]

An Eagle streaking overhead is indicating the direction in which you do NOT want to go...

[@Gunni1972]

Not in a cessna anyway.😁

[@MatthewCross929]

Awesome video! Your low altitude flying had me butt puckering!!

[@miletello1]

Couldn't pull a needle out with a tractor

[@52down]

Su-35S is the official name for Su-27BM. BM stands for 'great modification' and indeed it is huge one. Flanker-E has not only new electronics and engines, it also has structural changes with usage of composite materials. You can't upgrade old Flanker to Su-35S

[@alekosalekadis6095]

Thanks for info! Suckhoi are sexy! My best is su47 and mig 1.44. Its a crime they dont continue to production. I hope it exists and its secret and see it in some point.

[@aboba7225]

su27bm and su35s is the diffrent aircrafts check air breaker

[@alekosalekadis6095]

@aboba 722 really? Damn Russia have a good sense of taste! They are sexy !

[@aboba7225]

@@alekosalekadis6095 BASED

[@benbo4394]

Su-37 terminator is a sexy monster that should’ve went into production but sadly it’s only a technology demonstrator

[@longjohnpilsners7750]

Oh man it’d be REALLY cool to have a scramble scenario bvr fight in a major city somewhere with a bunch of civilian planes in the air

[@schicktmirkarakale1232]

He did that one time iirc, with an F-16 over (I think) Dubai

[@assasinpvp5520]

@@schicktmirkarakale1232 MORE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@assasinpvp5520]

That would be amazing, lol, we need more.

[@BosworthMcG]

We need this!!

[@insovietrussiamissilefirey8448]

Day 1 of asking for a plane vs plane but no missiles or guns allowed, only crashing into your enemy

[@seranonimo6770]

Just like the good old days

[@insovietrussiamissilefirey8448]

@@seranonimo6770 roses are red, violets are blue, in soviet russia, you are missile too

[@LucaDev]

I support this

[@chairpara]

This👆

[@tuxedoederminenaswall3751]

Ooo that'd be fun. Would you win if you simply brought a big ass plane that could sponge getting rammed?

[@TheMightySD]

Regarding the missile that hit the apartment building: It's cool to see your opponent using authentic Russian tactics.

[@max_pwrs]

Than it’s kinda strange that f15 missile didn’t hit some wedding or china embassy.

[@_SimpleJack_]

American tactics murdered over 1 million civilians in Japan through fire bombs and nuclear weapons.

[@militantcapitalist4606]

@@max_pwrs 💩🤡

[@siraj7134]

Didn't all us fighters do that in Iraq and Afghanistan that too to ppl?

[@triparadox.c]

​@siraj7134 I read somewhere that USAF caused the most innocent casualties.. makes sense too since there's limitation to target identification or probably even intentional

[@emmahones2384]

The fact that you mutual killed *both* times really does drive home how evenly-matched these two really are. Crazy stuff. Here's an interesting hypothetical - ignoring how unlikely it would be in the first place, what if you two had to go to the merge in the middle of all those civvies ... ?

[@ramrod1290]

It would be sick to see them transition into a dogfight like that

[@xanaphiatotnax2504]

With the F15 developed during the 60's against the fairly new 2000s produced Su35, the F15 performed pretty well.

[@Ba5edAF]

@@xanaphiatotnax2504 both are iterations...

[@dabo5078]

@@xanaphiatotnax2504 F15c are from the 1980s they also recieved system upgrades in the 90s and early 2000s

[@DE-rd1zl]

That would be interesting to see :D

[@carcamp5451]

Imagine your traveling in a plane and suddenly 2 jets dogfight near you.

[@johnlagrone5041]

The spicyist of air shows.

[@MD-wn4ui]

I blame the civilians for flying in the air space.

[@lowtdave]

The SU-35 is the best-looking gen4 and below, fighter jet. Can't beat those curves on that thing.

[@beatboxbuggi6884]

Flankers, man. Just a beautiful design.

[@thedishonoredamerican129]

Rafale and F-14 for me. Su-35 is a close third.

[@andreabindolini7452]

That big, curved nose of the Flanker family bother me (and the two-seater is frankly unwatchable). The Eagle has a far more balanced and sexy look in my opinion.

[@andreabindolini7452]

@@thedishonoredamerican129 F-15, with F-14 distant second and probably Rafale third. Honorable mention: Mig-31. IMO

[@fruitygranulizer540]

@@andreabindolini7452 i really love the big nose actually.

[@VagabondTexan]

As an airline guy, I strongly disapprove of "Maybe I can send this AMRAAM. Maybe I should." 😄

[@Elijah1573]

@@JohnShalamskas I seriously wish we got the tacview this time Would have loved to see those missiles in there

[@triparadox.c]

LOL

[@TheMFJxcob]

i would just like to say your videos are fire! almost 400k keep up the good work

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

Thank you very much, I appreciate you

[@trentlangford9050]

The Texas flag on the Cessna in an active warzone checks out

[@StormWalden]

Is that not a standard Cessna paint job? The flight school I learned at, in southern Nevada, has multiple 172s and a 152, all with that same paint job. 🤔

[@lvlmaxballoonparade101]

At first I thought I was imagining things with how smooth the cinematography was until I read your pinned comment GS, definitely looks so much cleaner and nicer to watch, and an overall great video

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

I appreciate the feedback thank you

[@jasonvick55]

That was one of the best BVR fights yet.

[@LegendaryAce73]

0:49 Late to the video but I've flown that exact Cessna 172 in real life. That's N9572H from West Air Flight Training based out of KVGT in North Las Vegas. She's a little temperamental in the mornings (need a lot of priming and rich girl settings for the first engine start of the day) by she's reliable. Kind of crazy to see a plane I have flown in real life in DCS. One complaint though. 72H is not a 172RG. It's actually a 172M.

[@jiraph52]

Would've been interesting to see Tacview for this fight.

[@trudownsouth8490]

Hey, do a video with multiple jets protecting a Cessna with a high value target! That will be a very great scenario!

[@wtx.alexxx]

throws a whole separate danger tossing civilian aircraft in the mix. i think it would be a neat feature in the bvr fights going forward

[@dystopianlucidity4448]

Awesome video brother! As usual on that cinematic journey! Love all the content! Hope you had a great thanksgiving!

[@rcs3289]

Great video - I really enjoy this format of "real world scenario" encounters, paired with your excellent and succinct narrative. Keep it up!

[@vtolgorgon4080]

If the Cessna dies we riot

[@Stinger522]

A new video from Growling Sidewinder is the perfect thing to finish a Sunday night with. With an F-22 or F-35 you could've snuck up on him and nullified his hiding tactic. Those back to back mutual kills were really something.

[@doniii4038]

@@justafloridamanfromthe75thRR not about seeing him so much as being able to lock him, fire a missle, and then the missle being able to track him after he defends

[@robertm8401]

Another example of how VLO aircraft prove their worth. Non-stealthy airframes are just too vulnerable no matter how good they are. Congratulations in advance for 400K subs!

[@rj5529]

what does VLO mean

[@robertm8401]

@@rj5529 Very Low Observable a.k.a. stealth

[@Gunni1972]

Yeah well, if they would ever fly against eachother. if you pit two VLO's against eachother, by the time you get a reliable lock, you enter merge or at least "optical range"

[@mikexhotmail]

@@Gunni1972Base on F-22 clip here. Both sides can keep on fighting in BVR until they run out of missile as long as they don't really need to naturized the target.

[@francescozambaldi8212]

The missile dodge was incredible bro! Love it

[@mihalybalint8969]

"Dear flyers, this is the captain speaking, I hope you had a good experience so far. We are cured 20 thousand feet above [country], if you look out to the left you can see the famous [river/city], if you look out to the right you can see an SU-35 barreling down in flames to the ground..."

[@Reefgeeks]

BVR and mission type stuff is the best IMO. 👍

[@Gunni1972]

That second defensive dive was basically snow plowing. And that 3rd or 4th missile of his made me nearly scream:"get a little altitude, so you can do that again with his missile". But it was too late...Oh well. At least those Pixels are easy to replace.

[@keithbriscoe99]

I know this is 10 mo's old, but so valuable to me since I just started DCS 4 weeks ago and I'm flying the F15c pretty much exclusively. I'm still trying to get my head wrapped around 'how long do I need to defend?' before re-committing. Also, I notice how fast GS is able to find the bandit each time after defending and I assume that requires know previous headings and keeping orientation during and after defending - this is harder than it looks! Uh, and how LOW is he flying - that is tricky when going so fast and looking around via trackir.

[@_tyrannus]

Just imagine the letters from the Chinese and French embassies after this happened around their airliners.

[@P51Michael_]

You should get the people who fly against you and do a virtual airshow one day.

[@dex2591]

That's a cool idea.

[@Sion_Revan]

Finish with a free for all death match

[@narichey1981]

The Russian pilot trying to hide behind airliners and then plowing a missile into an apartment building is the most accurate thing I've ever seen in DCS

[@Sharkaat84]

Heh, wanted to write the same thing. 😅

[@timbaskett6299]

I'd probably go over to "guard" as make chicken sounds at the Sukhoi!! 😄

[@s3quencial]

@@vasjaforutube1 absolute zigger cope holy

[@sockMonster241]

​@@vasjaforutube1 It's sad and fascinating you believe anything you're saying and question nothing about what you're being fed. I can only hope it's cognitive dissonance and not that you're actually that gullible.

[@TedFanat]

Damn, I looked for that comment)

[@TexanHuman]

Seems like hiding behind a civilian airliner would be a war crime…

[@Paxton171]

Didn't know DCS was that accurate when it came to tactics.

[@user-bw6jg4ej2m]

...which makes it *completely* in character for ruZZia. And then their missile hitting someone's apartment for bonus points.

[@evo3s75]

@@user-bw6jg4ej2m Russia*

[@user-bw6jg4ej2m]

@@evo3s75 no

[@SCH292]

@@user-bw6jg4ej2m But wait!!???!!? All the Russian Bootlickers and Ivans been telling us for DECADES that..."Russia stuff are cheap and reliable!". 🤣

[@baraahamoood3372]

Man that was some breath taking BVR, And the moment you said oh there is the missile, i lost it, good video brother

[@scsmooth1]

Su-35 Flanker vs F35. I'd love to see who wins between those 2.

[@angeljimenez121]

In a dogfight, the Su-35s would win.

[@scsmooth1]

@@angeljimenez121 I know but Growling Sidewinder has pulled off the imposable before.

[@ernie5229]

I miss the tactical rewiews. That was my favorite part. It made everything come together and I learned so much. Would you consider brining them back?

[@Wargasm54]

If we ever have an “Independence Day” scenario where aliens invade, you think they’d like GS fly a real fighter jet? 😂

[@triparadox.c]

Really nice video. I keep finding myself rewatching some of your videos. If possible, more BVR fights? I also really like the tacview analysis post match like what you did with the F/A18 vs F/A18 (2 yrs ago video iirc).

[@GrowlingSidewinder]

thank you very much, and yes sure, I think more BVR fights sounds good.

[@EtaoinShrdlu33]

Mutually Assured Destruction

[@szymonkaminski7975]

Your videos make me want to jump into Eagle and do some of that crazy stuff you manage to pull off :D Greetings from A-10C

[@adamchilton6652]

It happens to us older men at 4:35. We often shoot the gun by accident and a little too early.

[@startrekker4596]

6:07 it’s incredible DCS is able to model Russian missiles so accurate to real life

[@MattH-wg7ou]

So is the F15 in DCS with the APG-63/70 (or whatever Mech Scan Array the C model uses) and the Su35 with the Irbis-E AESA radar? Almost all operational F15s have AESA radars now. Fighting a full up Irbis-E with a MSA radar would suck. Also the Su35 is way different/better than the Su27. As you mentioned.

[@MICLakVER]

Su 35 will pickup f15 approx 250 km

[@birddt3]

Adding civilian aircraft in gameplay is awesome. Gives these vids a whole new twist!

[@Limescale12]

"maybe I CAN fire an amraam... nay, maybe I SHOULD"

[@TheThewulasvegas]

I love the fact, you made sure to point out he committed a war crime.

[@rugger3buffalo]

No idea what you're doing different in this vid but the fidelity is the best I've ever seen in one of your vids

[@b2tall239]

I'm pretty sure the Cessna was there for target practice. Missed opportunity 😁

[@rnash999]

I worked with an Lt whose husband flew F-15s and he did the close fly by while she was up in a Cessna. She was pissed when she got to work.

[@Tactical_Tism]

Thought he was gay for a second

[@cjlane4465]

I love seeing f15 vids! Such beautiful crafts, and theyre the ones the guard the skys i live under!

[@ericmccord]

When I was a kid growing up in Fairbanks, Alaska I used to fly with my dad in his Cessna 210. One day near Cold Foot, Alaska two F15’s blew past us just like you did lol. This was in the 80’s and F-15 intercepting Soviet aircraft was common.

[@perrymickle424]

love your chanel and fights, may i make a suggestion of a dogfight in near hurricane weather conditions, or in a blizzard

[@robertstevenson5145]

Really enjoy the videos but the one thing I haven't seen but probably already done is a 2 on 2 dogfight with guns and fox 2 only.Something like 2 F-14s vs 2 F-35s

[@snugglecity3500]

6:09 is quite topical

[@tmytyson]

GS: "I can't shoot right now, too high a risk of collateral damage." Russian Pilot: *Gives no fucks*

[@H1Guard]

That missile was probably inches from detonation, just beyond the trigger distance for the prox fuse.

[@omaral-maitah181]

Omg I asked for this yesterday 😍🙏🏽

[@CaptainHightop]

Hiding behind civilian airliners and launching missiles into apartment complexes... Must have had a real Russian flying that Su-35

[@anomaly_echelon7994]

Imagine waking up in your apartment building and hoping to see some nice view from the balcony but only to see god at the very next second...

[@taseen1]

The motion blur effect looks great on the video

[@indracaponious]

GSW: I just lost lock....that one is on it's own now. AirFrance Pilot: pardonne-moi!?

[@davedeville6540]

Love the BVR stuff. More please. The Russian hiding behind civilians seems highly plausible. How about a similar simulated confrontation over the Baltic states /sea. Maybe two ship of Gripens defending vs Sukhoi or Mig-31’s conducting strikes? Possibly adding S400 across the border and manpads on the Nato side?

[@garonvega9625]

"Well Col. you wanna tell me how you got shot down"-Jed. "it was 5 to 1 I got 4"- Col. (Red Dawn) lol. on e of my favorite lines in the movie lol

[@arctictiger8690]

If only the Su-35 ejected that first match and you the second... You could have finished the fights on the ground

[@andrewrogers3067]

Think they both died round 2

[@arctictiger8690]

@@andrewrogers3067 then they shall fight in the afterlife!

[@MattH-wg7ou]

This might seem unrealistic but when I was deployed there were airliners ALL up in our airspace. Syria and Iraq, OIR.

[@waynegriswold8953]

i wonder if you could use a sparrow to take shots at the bandit when he is close to civ traffic, since the sparrow shouldnt have a mind of its own and follow the beam to the guy who deserves it. it could work if you got close enough and had the time to guide it in. the mh variant works pretty good for how old it is. peace be with you, brother!

[@s87343jim]

I guess the issue would be the resolution power of the radar and the receiver of the seeker head. I guess fox 3 will technically be better as the radar itself will be closer to the target, therefore provide better resolution.

[@StoneCoolds]

All you need to do is to use RWS instead of TWS with the 120s, thar will guide the missile directly to target, when you have a friendly and an enemy closer than 5 miles, you dont use TWS, you go hard lock instead

[@brantoomey2944]

That Russian missile that hit the apartment building is almost just like real life 🤔

[@martinsv9183]

Or almost just like western media propaganda :)

[@oogie493]

Ukrainian media: The Russians are purposely targeting civilians! Look at this footage of a missile hitting an apartment!

[@reboundrides8132]

Classic Russian air to air missile locking up a juicy apartment building on the ground 🤦‍♂️

[@brantoomey2944]

@@reboundrides8132 u don’t get the joke bud

[@kayrxx7123]

Wrong this missile isn't ukrainian 😂😂

[@frankleepower2333]

"I think I should eject." Famous last words.

[@JazzJaRa]

It kinda sounded like if you are driving in a car and are about to hit a tree "I should break"

[@alirezarezaei2976]

15:06 GS: " I think, I should eject ... 15:07 R.I.P GS Conclusion: As Rooster said in top gun maverick, ... Don't think, just do it!!!!

[@neegsta]

Requesting a F-35 BVR video with you flying the F-35 i dont think ive ever seen you fly it i think it would be cool to see it versus some 4th gen planes like eurofighter or su-35 or even su-57 :)

[@Anarchy_420]

F-16I Sufa VS F-15STOL/MTD Fox2 Dogfight F-86 Sabre VS A-10 Thunderbolt II Mirage F-1 VS Panavia Tornado P-47 Thunderbolt VS SU-25 Frogfoot F4U Corsair VS A-1 Skyraider MB-339 Aermacchi VS MIG-15 J-10 VS SU-27 J-7 VS MIG-21

[@Anarchy_420]

Please fly The Rafale against The Typhoon Please fly The F-4 Phantom against The A-4 Skyhawk

[@relaxsleepheal]

🤗🤗'I think I should eject' Beautiful words indeed.

[@numberyellow]

Cessna pilot: "I'm in danger.."

[@MMhb-dj1hj]

I was secretly hoping that AMRAAM was gonna hit the civilian airliner.

[@FusionAero]

".......and if we were flyin' any lower we'd need sleigh bells on this thing...."

[@timothygillette3659]

Can you do an F-35 vs Su-35? Both longer range and dogfight? I read an article today about the F-35 being superior with it's long range radar but the Su-35 being superior within 45km range.

[@manjisaipoe517]

And no civ KIA, color me impressed. Keep the entertainment coming, your a great VR pilot.

[@_tyrannus]

The average behaviour of a russian pilot is really captured well by that Su-35 in the first round.

[@oogie493]

What do you mean

[@yuriikovalov84]

@@oogie493 somebody didnt follow numbers of war crimes committed by russians?

[@victormikecharlie1596]

No

[@highlander723]

@@oogie493 I think what he's talking about is your average Russian pilot is going to use civilians as a human shield.

[@codypierce2970]

​@@oogie493 He launched a missile right into an apartment building

[@radioactive9861]

6:07 in to the video: Boy, I'd hate to be living in Apt 7A right now....LOL

[@AndrewMcFarlane_1]

Getting your gun out instead of your missile is an age old problem

[@geoffgreen2105]

11:34- But you know who WON'T make an air-to-air missile that can't tell the difference between a fighter jet and an airliner full of civilians?

[@super-maneuverability592]

And how do you propose to make a light weight seeker which can tell the difference between a jet and an airliner?

[@super-maneuverability592]

I mean they obviously can given there's a data link feed between FCR and AAM's seeker with aircraft's computers telling the missile what it has to look for in the general direction it's fired at, there is no such privilege when you send out an AAM which has to look for a target in a given direction independently without data link, because it will lock on to whatever it sees there, and it will see the passenger jet before the fighter jet.

[@user-bw6jg4ej2m]

@@super-maneuverability592 For example, knowing the distance to target together with the returned signal strength (both can be measured by radar) can allow you to calculate the target's radar cross-section from the current viewing angle. RCS of an airliner will be orders of magnitude larger than that of a fighter. But the accuracy of that method may get thrown out of the window with ECM and etc.

[@AshBhang2010]

Awesome JS ! ! ! Really enjoying your vids bro . . Lots of Love from your Aussie fans. . .!

[@bndfer]

Please more BVR fights! I love your take on BVR fights especially in Tacview!!!

[@darthsarcastus1064]

Some civilians on their way to Tenerife had a great view of you two shooting each other down!

[@Stuff749]

What’s the difference between a su35,su33,su27?

[@spinosarcadegaming4538]

Su-27 is the initial production Flanker variant, Su-33 is a modified variant with canards and other things for carrier ops, and the Su-35 is a heavily upgraded Su-27 with more modern radar and weapons.

[@anomalyp8584]

Those are truly famous last words "I can see the missile" 🤣

[@Paul_Sergeyev]

This interceptor BVR looks like jousting. Both pass head on, both launch an attack, both fail, both pass head on again until one or both are successful.

[@RobZombii]

Passenger on Air China: "PILOT! GET US THE F*CK OUT OF HERE MAN!!"

[@JimWakable]

That is a nice Cessna 201! Used to fly one in the far north and on pipeline patrol. Oh yeah. Nice jets too I guess...

[@sbg911]

I truly believed there were times in that vid where a tree was more likely to get GS than the 35.

[@Flyinflipflapinfrogs]

I can only imagine the code brown the airliners would recieved from ATC telling them what's up.

[@schicktmirkarakale1232]

6:00 average russian pilot instincts kicking in

[@alexandrecournoyer-gagnon2305]

I got the flaming cliffs 3 package because if you and now I'm addicted to DCS!

[@ycplum7062]

And the passengers of those airliners are say, "Best in-flight entertainment, EVER!"

[@jetnoise007]

With some of your moves, I was doing the nick maneuver! Nice video.

[@Ob1sdarkside]

An amraam flying by your window on a passenger jet, what a show.

[@GermanYinzer]

Petition to bring back tacview.

[@wylnd]

I wonder if you can "2d" dogfight on bicycles with paintball guns attached to the bars. Outrating the opponent and all

[@heathb4319]

Well that depends on the bikes... A 24" bmx trick bike will turn faster and be more nimble compared to a 29" mountain bike that can get there faster with more energy when the merge happens. Also the armaments...who has the entry Tippman 98 with stock tank and barrel and who has the $1800 tourney gun that has been upgraded?

[@knmo2642]

But what if the Tippman has the flatline barrel? Thats a big upgrade there. /s

[@bigblue6917]

I get a feeling that the Air China is shouting so loud he would not need a radio.