Don't Get Mad At This / The First Descendant Weapon Tier List

[@YJSho_Nuff_]

Keep in mind that at one point this man said Yujins werent viable in Gluttony fights and that you need pure dps characters. Now Yujins are hella important in matchmaking. Take his opinion with a grain of salt lol

[@tempisto]

The meta changes and thing are found out can ppl not make mistakes?

[@Bladekaizer]

At the time yujin was also broken had to be fully invested to be a decent healer but they fixed that

[@benjamin-collie]

Maybe you should make your own videos

[@YJSho_Nuff_]

@trancelabsx I enjoy idiot comments like these. If you watched the whole video he even said himself that his opinion is just fun. So it's not meant to be taken as law. Hence my comment to begin with. You just wanted to respond just because lol

[@mattstitans4080]

Dude put afterglow in s tier of course I wouldn't go off his list lol

[@bitterblossom19]

Greg's Reversed Fate needs to have a visual effects toggle like they did with Gley Launcher effects spam. It's really hard to see where to aim and shoot when all you see is fireworks on your screen. Even worse on colossi fights when you're trying to hit weakspots but the randos on your team obfuscate the target with vfx.

[@markprior2285]

I use only 4 weapons for all my characters the whole game Thunder cage, Enduring legacy, python, piercing light simple as that

[@serizawapinpin902]

hello if we are running on utility function by descending ok it holds the road but DPS certain weapons clearly pass above but hey you do not forget over time updates the game will modify the weapons

[@humanlink3831]

If you just started the game... do NOT follow this tier list.

[@markstorey2801]

and what would your tier list be ? u realise u can have different opinions on weapons and descendants

[@KristenBonomo-g4z]

The tamer is 900k pluss DPS weopen since charge amplification mod was added it's by far the most powerful purple weopen

[@chris82z1]

Vestigial Organ was worthless before I could get a Gley unlocked and use it. I did Thunder cage first because I didn't want to invest into Tamer (good choice). I used Thunder Cage to get my first Enduring Legacy and put it onto Enzo and the entire game changed. I skipped on Bunny because I had already invested into Viessa, and to wait and save upgrades for Ultimate Bunny. I now have a maxed Ultimate Bunny and it trivializes most content. The third and fourth guns I upgraded are Blue Beetle and Sigvore's Proof from the first battle pass. Sigvore's Proof is the best launcher in the game right now with Strengthen First Shot, but that's not saying much. I did not want to upgrade the Guardian R4 (good choice). Blue Beetle is situational when targets are beyond Thunder Cage range, so that was just convenience and I didn't want to upgrade Silly Weeper (good choice). Just getting into hard mode and stuck with the Tamer my Descendants carried Thunder Cage, Blue Beetle, and Sigvore's. I went for Piercing Light before Afterglow Sword mainly for Sharen, Enzo, and Gley. Enzo can run around solo with a Sigvore's and Focus Fire, but you gain nothing over Enduring Legacy or Thunder Cage and lose total DPS. If you're stuck with low DPS just getting into hard mode, just mooch in public matchmaking of Void Bosses to skip upgrading the purple weapons. Sharen needs some love, mine is currently an extremely budget build that gets the outposts done, barely with all skill duration and not much else in modules... but I've almost farmed everything in the game. I have every Descendant and Ultimate and all 5 pieces for most weapons, they're just time gated and I haven't been logging in every day to que up research. I have a maxed Python that I haven't socketed because I don't want to build it for only Gley and Freyna. I think I'll finish out all of the Ultimate Character builds before prioritizing anymore gun upgrades. Re-rolling ultimate weapons stat is a gold sink and reactor farming is hell, so I'm postponing those for later. I don't have a Nexon account and cannot participate in the Freyna event because I don't want to lose all of my progress.

[@tempered9134]

I’m not sure what’s the point of tier list when they buff random weapons weekly like executor went from D to S tier in one buff

[@ShadowMoses66]

That's why this isn't his first tier list? He'll make another one in a month or two too, meta changes

[@tempered9134]

@@ShadowMoses66 that’s exactly the point of this comment, why make it in the first place when you know it’ll change so often? You don’t need a tier list to know what weapon is the meta by just watching KZbin since every creator make the same video

[@parkourguyyy]

@@tempered9134 its content that people watch, and it probably worked on you. it also encourages people to try out something new

[@xspindrift8737]

@@tempered9134 views is the meta

[@SheepvsInterwebs]

Already mad

[@tarkatta8470]

Kings guard is crazy fun. It probably is a B tier. But damn it's very good in dungeons and shard farming

[@Clockwork-Heart]

Good weapon to anger us vacuum Lepics. KG stops enemies from being pulled. Very annoying.

[@PhoenixUnity07]

​@@Clockwork-HeartK then pull things to the lances and stop pulling em to yourself.

[@airborne1868]

Actually all of the weapons are situational even the EL which took me 30 ish hours to get all copies (well worth it) . In the hands of Gley executor is S tier , in the hands of Hailey PL is S tier , for crowd control TC , Greg's , KG are S tier . There should be a tier list which shows the right combo/content . New players will look at this list and take it as a template then they see Gley in matchmake melting crowds with a trash launcher 🤣🤣🤣. I just think you can't make a tier list based on average content , who tf uses one weapon for all content ?

[@andypanda889]

Actually gain secret garden nanotube was easy for me as i was planning to obtain more than 1 item at time. I had different options, open the amorphs and in no time i was crafting all the weapon copies. Using the brain you are farming a catalizer or activator + 1 or 2 weapon material + character. Take 1 min to see access info > amorphous material. There are several "routes". If you are not taking that character, you will have your weapon material or an energy activator instead. Taking the advantage always

[@mrsaynothin]

how does any of that change the rng of getting the nanotube from the amorphous material?

[@andypanda889]

@@mrsaynothin Can't change it. Yet you should consider probability in order to manage the quantity of the amorphs you'll farm. For instance, an item with 10% chance means you can obtain what you want 'normally' 1 time in 10 attempts. 20% means 2 times in 10 attempts, 6% means 0.6 times in 10 attempts, 8% means 0.8 times in 10 attempts, considered to be less than 1 in 10, etc. So, to be sure you will need at least 18-20 opened amorphs. If you can't have it, allright, then sh1t yourself on the game. Of course, it is only a plain reference. Sometimes take less, sometimes takes a little more. If you look closely, you can consider to farm different things at the same time (weapon, character, catalyst/activator) or two of each. It is about managing amorphs and attempts quantities considering probability. Lucky i got this idea since day one, so wasn't difficult for me to get anything i need without to much effort.

[@leoskykuni]

Honestly this doesnt look that bad i would say gregs should be a but understand its a really inconsistent weapon personally ive stuck to eternal willpower maxed it out with 700k dps enduring legacy is definitely good i only put an activator in it around 450kdps iirc but it just didnt feel as good to use even if a maxed one is better probably especially on the crit characters

[@killerkane714]

It's not just better, it's much better, eternal willpower doesn't even come close. Max out EL and you will see the difference yourself

[@ddanbimmer2710]

Best investment hands down, Eternal willpower is good but EL passes by a mile

[@leoskykuni]

For void battles absolutely a max el is the best overall gun but when it comes to other content as well it doesn't feel as nice to use in comparison ,it obviously Is still great for everything but I just don't think I'd use it as much outside colossus

[@ddanbimmer2710]

@leoskykuni what about inversion and dungeons it's pretty good there too

[@tomz6594]

I am fairly new to the game and this was helpful. I realized I am one component away from Smithereens but now I see it isn't really a priority. I'll get it later.

[@chrisdavison4915]

You follow this!!! That's nuts good luck

[@jonpilgrim5260]

Honestly only 2 I disagree with is Greg's and excava. Excava is good base damage, or with hailey 3rd or with valby increased critical chance on water. But think they need to buff the unique ability. A 3.5% decrease in electric resistance for 3 stacks max is really low. But I will run it on valby and just spam her abilities to keep laundry up and excava electric debuff up. Gets about a 30% decrease in electric resistance.

[@brandonlanoue7287]

I will all ways use vestigial for everything other then some void bosses .to much fun rocket spamming lol

[@scottmiller2746]

Tamer feels better than enduring legacy, and that might just be on the controller. I feel like enduring legacy is really bouncy, but without a doubt, enduring legacy is better than tamer, but I like both a lot. I would probably give tamer a high B, honestly, because i still use it a lot.

[@Corendor89]

Tamer prob is better until you catalyze EL

[@scottmiller2746]

@Corendor89 I have both fully catalized. I used tamer early on, so I maxed it out.

[@FFXIVSnowfallSanctuary]

So I am still kinda new to the game, but getting into the end game now with gold weapons I wanted to know for sure, from what I can tell weapons are completely personal preference? Like I can use any weapon on any character based on what I like best and it isn't going to like not be the best stat wise for individual characters? Looking to create two characters bunny for mobbing and normal content and haley as my bossing character but not sure what weapons I should get first

[@thereno1173]

I like Greg's for the mortars cause it just makes the screen so fun lol like having and extra spamable ability. Enduring Legacy definitely shreds tho. And rest seem like fair ratings lol

[@Clockwork-Heart]

Greg's is so fun with a vacuum Lepic. Absolutely melts outposts.

[@TigerOfLostHope]

I don't really hard disagree with this, most of it I do. However, divine, I think it can be at least in C because while yes, only one character can use it to it's full potential, it does have a good impact on that one character. I still think it needs buffed but I don't think trash is fair otherwise everything else in C that has a niesh use should be there too. Just my thoughts tho and really this is all (somewhat) opinion based.

[@hectornieves537]

Bump up Piercing light next to afterglow but right before it and I'd agree with this list for the most part

[@Wutwut1n1]

Greg's done dirty hahaha, love your vids tho ty brother!

[@ericmatthews9894]

Thundercage is good for mobbing. Tamer-I never liked it. Of the guns I have tried, I agree with this list

[@AkenosBoiToy]

The intro🤣

[@AxeMain]

What's bad about vestigal organ gley spam? Genuine question because I came upon that on my own and it seemed good.

[@Leozoro]

It's just there are better options now. That's all.

[@wywc4654]

Well I actually max piercing light coz I don't have afterglow, it serve well even for other descendant sniping out invasion boss haha.

[@mantysplays2469]

17 seconds in and I’m enraged let the pearl clutching begin

[@antoncromas5125]

Only thing I'd change is move Greg's lower on the list.

[@DirtySancheeezz]

Im mad you shaved and I don't even play the game 😂😂😂

[@itachi3907]

I have both legacy and afterglow but haven't tried them out yet and the main reason i use greg's is because my viessa reactor. Otherwise I wouldn't use it as much.

[@killerkane714]

EL best weapon, hands down without a doubt.

[@frankierosario6981]

Divine punishment is c the unique skill is a good stat boost

[@killerkane714]

Only for yujin

[@Dragonsbrath]

Launchers and shotguns are almost useless with low ammo storage. You run out, and no ammo drops around.

[@Guest-iy3tc]

Shotguns should use their impact rounds. Launchers just need an ammo and damage buff

[@marcoscunha511]

They are useless unless you're playing Gley. Who uses them? Nobody.

[@kal2103]

​@@marcoscunha511i can see exceutor being nice at dungeons. Just dump some fatty damage at the begining.

[@gators2412]

I wish that I could turn off other ppls Greg bombardment, I literally loose track of the boss in the fights cuz of it

[@Clockwork-Heart]

I use Greg's, and want my own turned off lmao. I can't count how many times a full clip has left me flabbergasted as to where the boss went. 1 full clip, half of the next clip missed.

[@SW33T_Dr34M]

Yall cry about everything like some lil 🗣️beaches

[@jenjindigi741]

U can in settings

[@TCGSyphax]

executioner is far and away gleys best weapon rn, python being higher is fucking nuts. 3 gleys and a sharen have cleared gluttony in 10 seconds. Peacemaker is bonkers on ajax and kyle too :) agree with everything else tbh

[@Clockwork-Heart]

It's higher because python is usable on others. Executioner isn't. Outside of Gley, shotguns are extremely sub-par.

[@TCGSyphax]

@@Clockwork-Heart no one is clearing content with the python on these days not that they couldn't but that there are too many better choices

[@Clockwork-Heart]

@@TCGSyphax That's not the point. :/ Executioner is only good on Gley, while Python is decent overall on anyone, also ammo type. Shotgun ammo isn't abundant. There's many factors to decide a tier. This isn't a "best weapon for Gley" video.

[@TCGSyphax]

@@Clockwork-Heart if a weapon in the game is clearing the hardest enemy in the game in 10 seconds it is not b tier

[@Clockwork-Heart]

@@TCGSyphax It's only good on ONE person dude. That is the entire reason it's lower. Do you not understand the concept of a tier list? It takes overall usability into consideration, not JUST your precious Gley.

[@velocityhdx_]

Yujin doesn’t need a buff at all I can see you don’t have energy activator on him nor any crystal catalyst on him which tells me you didn’t build him right he does great healing and with the right build you can heal 30k health plus shields and 2k per tick for 9 seconds with a cooldown of 12 seconds slap on passionate sponser to boost your dps abilities by 10% and shot focus to do more damage with your Greg or enduring legacy and you can out put 100+ mil dps depending on the boss which I did with gluttony awesome tierlist but just the yujin opinion didn’t sit right with me

[@ArmedTheAsians]

Maxed greg is great when you have high crit (chance and damage) build and in solo. I could melt bosses within 10s for all solo bosses. Idk why the B tier. 🤦🏽‍♂️

[@maxwellduplissey5884]

im 50 seconds into the video and hes already put the best launcher in the game in the trash tier 😐

[@kal2103]

Tbf. It only works on gley, but with executor, it ain't lookin good on the launcher. Also, it is pretty annoying to use because of the visual effects on you and projectile speed. I use it now to 2 shot invasion doors from immortality invasions, but thats about it.

[@tallyns.3558]

Why not do a beginner purple gun teirlist since thise are the guns ur using until u either can move on or have to move on all purple guns function for when there needed had a tatical i was still using untill recently now i have greg and building for a secret garden but it was thanks to viper or whatever the name of the tatical rifle that got me into the others

[@firewalksauce3961]

Yeah but can anyone confirm what a maxed out tamer is hitting for with good attribute rolls.? I hope I didn't waste a socket on the tamer. Already have the thunder cage max.

[@Clockwork-Heart]

Use TC. A maxed out tamer is not good. It's basically a tutorial weapon, whereas TC is the "plot armor". Use TC and farm yourself a Legacy.

[@LoneWolf_Kiyo]

Legacy > Tamer

[@airborne1868]

You did waste a socket . The moment you get the EL you'll never touch the Tamer again . As a matter of fact the Tamer is not needed for anything in the game that can't be done by a maxed TC .

[@zeeman3891]

I gave my dislike

[@TheUltimaFortuna]

Gregs is so good in all content.

[@mattrobinson7792]

This is by far the worst Tier List I ever seen made for TFD. Bro how the hell you ranking Afterglow higher than Piercing Light. Piercing Light has no equal when it comes to heavy weapons. Definitely S Tier. Excava definitely a B Tier weapon. Greg's is definitely S Tier. Greg's beats Thunder Cage in clear time. Blue Beetle definitely B Tier. Also no purple gun belongs to be above B Tier.

[@nickwhite8794]

Agree, I’m rocking Excava and bought the battle pass to max it out .. this gun hits hard with Gley .. and I use it with Freyna along with The Secret Garden great combo IMO

[@xoradivided7950]

agreed

[@bobwhite2371]

Don’t diss my grey

[@leo-cg4hy]

☠️☠️☠️🤣🤣🤣 Smithereens and restored Relic. He has both weapons I just got fully max special abilities in the trash😂. But I pretty much figured they were trash. Before I got the last 4 parts. I pretty much had enough to make 5 sets for both weapons. So no real grind.

[@Lowlight23]

It’s hard to tell what gun you are talking about just from the small icons when watching on mobile. Please next time at least say the gun’s name once for each one as you go through the list.

[@ChiragRajput-iy9ne]

i agree with most of the guns and ik its his opinion on the guns but man the b tier gregs just hurts

[@Clockwork-Heart]

Yeah, but I get it. If the boss is mobile, so much dps is lost. 😭

[@killerkane714]

​@@Clockwork-Heartit literally does like no damage on a mobile boss. His reasoning is perfectly sound, it's very situational and a lotta rng.

[@christophermcdaniel7792]

And a lot of people were farming for it

[@239Brandon]

😂😂😂 i was really hoping this got posted

[@davisandthebagels1634]

IM MAD AT THIS

[@almightypull8344]

This tier list is horrible. Your basis for ranking guns is extremely inconsistent

[@48acemen57]

Make your own tier list let’s see it

[@jcannon796]

You don't play nearly as much as him, kid🙄🙄 sit down

[@48acemen57]

@@almightypull8344 still waiting on the tier list 🙄🙄🙄🙄

[@almightypull8344]

@@48acemen57 sorry I “don’t play nearly as much as him” and he was still too lazy to test some of the guns he’s trying to pass his opinion on. Use your own free thinking capabilities and form your own opinion on the guns while keeping the same ranking basis for all of them and you’d probably end up with a better tier list than what he has here.

[@48acemen57]

@@almightypull8344 With a bold claim like “this tier list is horrible” insinuates you have great insight that clearly this creator doesn’t see. That’s why I’m asking you for your opinion

[@xendon]

yall sleepin on wave of light

[@killerkane714]

I will rather not reload after every shot thank you

[@Somarye]

​@killerkane714 After every shot? At max, the buff lasts 2 seconds. With fire rate+, that's enough time to dump the whole mag with 100% crit. Perfect loop with a higher damage potential than enduring

[@killerkane714]

@@Somarye no it really isnt, the reloading time of wave of light eats into a lot of the time where you can actually do damage with the EL. Higher damage potential than EL 🤣🤣🤣

[@Somarye]

@@killerkane714 Well since you don't need to invest in crit, those slots are free for reload mods. You can get a sub 1s cut down further with reload cancel

[@Somarye]

@killerkane714 Well since you don't need to build into crit, those slots are free for reload. You can get it down to 1s, cut further by reload canceling. DPS Potential of 1.1m while Enduring is 950k. Only thing holding it back is ammo

[@ExoFlikks]

Wow, im mad

[@adrianmolinaiii1355]

I’m mad at this!

[@hussenamad4784]

I'm 500k in a thunder cage and I must say how the duck to build it right like really

[@SwordofState]

It's the norm they give out trash

[@Jokersxwolf]

Clyde man thanks for making content, appreciate it. I think ppl are not thinking situationally yet. and have a lot of comments that are kinda hypocritical. also i think most ppl havnt gathered and/or maxed everything and rather, trying to main one build for all situations and get upset when it doesnt suit others playstyle. Please keep it up! Im sure as the community grows and has more options to choose from we will start agreeing with each other more frequently.

[@RobertPinner-q1m]

Tanner Ranch

[@blazing_pyro67]

Having played with and fully built a majority of this list and watching people play with mostly or full built versions of the other guns on this list I gotta say this was a VERY solid list. . this may be the 1st time I've ever agreed with one of these tier lists ever in my life so damn that's quite the accomplishment.

[@mattwinto5292]

Solid list

[@herbertcoxe3601]

This is fair 🤷🏾‍♂

[@herbertcoxe3601]

Of course I’ll get mad if it’s s**t let’s see….

[@igobytony]

I hate Greg's. I threw a mushroom and some catalysts in it bc it's so Meta, but after using it to complete a task requiring x number of kills w its ammo type in Infiltrations, I can say for sure that I freaking hate using that gun. Edit: just to be clear, I'm not saying it sucks and can't FSU, I'm saying I hate using it or being in a party w people spamming it.

[@tallyns.3558]

True those and thunder cages are the same way

[@danielgalvez8577]

the ammo restrictions seriously needs some work we shouldn’t have to use another weapon to stack ammo it’s just wasting a weapon slot

[@killerkane714]

​@@tallyns.3558what ? What did thunder cage do ?

[@tallyns.3558]

@@killerkane714 did you not read what he said things like Greg's and thunder cages are guns people spam endurance legacy to but that's just like moving on from a tamer not much changes with the machine gun other than the burn stats it's nice to see out of the styleor meta you know all the other guns that exist I personally use my devotion more and shield people when I need to literally I'd rather run that then thundecage because that's the type of gun I like to use same probably goes for others who uses there guns it's what they like I didn't say it suck or I hate the gun personally I just don't like how repetitive it is like greg . Kings guard was a new thing to see and it actually looked more interesting to me then thundecage

[@killerkane714]

@@tallyns.3558 why won't people spam them?? They are the best guns ?

[@zelohendricks51]

Ok this list is already dumb. Dont care if you dont like the BP weps being BP weps. Rank them for real if you want to be taken seriously. The weps are 5 bucks. Big whoop

[@jaredv5692]

How is Eternal Willpower ranked higher than Tamer?

[@Asher-xr3ik]

Because it’s objectively better

[@kal2103]

Scales better tbh. With willpower having a nice 20 crit hit rate, you can go the crit route and that is especially strong for general rounds. Also the only AR that is good. It may have lower mag size, but crits literally does 2-3 times more damage makes up for it. Pretty sure it also has better base damage

[@emnow]

@Moxsy its the only one THE REAL one on this kind of videos

[@Saffimaru]

Python really isn’t all that

[@ThePinheadRapidz]

I think it's supposed to be sweaty as balls on Gley

[@killerkane714]

I agree, the python sucks, I will much rather go with Greg's or Executor on gley with gun build gley.

[@ThePinheadRapidz]

@@killerkane714 I picked Greg's for my first boss killer, good gun but wish I picked something I enjoy farming because I hate the mission options for one of the components lol

[@kettz4862]

@@ThePinheadRapidznano tube?

[@ThePinheadRapidz]

@@kettz4862 I think so bro, if its the one with the heart of the fortress mission normal or the waves special operation then yeah

[@AllenLamb]

missing shark gun, and the edge but i agree with most of your list.

[@PhoenixUnity07]

Shark is a skin and the weapon it's on sucks. He didn't miss shit.

[@AllenLamb]

@@PhoenixUnity07 no u

[@chexsama4895]

Good content

[@averagezengaming8346]

I agree with much of your list, except secret garden. Comparing it to my maxed out enduring legacy, I prefer it. No movement negative, passive buff on tech users and the 50% crit spikes that damage real high. I would argue it is s tier better than enduring because of movement and accuracy. I know listed dps means nothing in this game, but a maxed garden actually has a higher listed dps.

[@luisespinoza3877]

He said characters were useless (yujin) now look😂. This why i dislike destiny people moving over to new games bc every take screams destiny.

[@leanonabar7181]

This tier list is rage bait fr LMAO

[@turakaisenvideot]

Aaaa i see that youtuber hype tamer has been found trash, funny as it always was but youtuber hype man, that got many nerds to waste mats on tamers.

[@kal2103]

I'll be honest. I'll never use it again, but i am still keep it because it just carried me through the game until i am able to get enduring. Guess for old times sakes. Lol

[@turakaisenvideot]

@@kal2103 Yeah well there is this basic rule that in this game purple equals Destiny 2 blue and ultimate equals Destiny 2 Purple. Transcendant weapons are coming.

[@mattstitans4080]

All the weapons are trash ez tier list

[@emnow]

wish i can see the dislikes XD

[@BenaresDarkness]

Tammer is definitely A tier Greg's is definitely S tier Executer is S tier Piercing light is S it's better than afterglow 100% Thunder cage is B tier it's not that good Your list tells me you don't know anything lol

[@Puufh]

Him putting the Executor in B Tier is wild and crazy lol. its actually S tier. its the fastest killing weapon in the whole game for Intercept battles it kills gluttony in (9 seconds)! 😂😂i just skipped the whole video to see the full result of this horrible tier list and i have 1093Hours under my belt. wtf is this tier list?????💀💀💀

[@killerkane714]

You can literally only use the gun on 1 character. It's an overall tier list not a bossing tier list.

[@Obi1Kenobi0]

been farming for EL now about 2 weeks and still haven't got one :(

[@yoannbirrien3048]

Why more mobbing gun we have bunny or Blair 😂

[@Clockwork-Heart]

Because not everyone wants to play Bunny or Blair? Wild comment.

[@0rmy]

@@Clockwork-Heartbased reply

[@kal2103]

Just in case you don't have bunny. Thunder cage does gey boring after awhile

[@christophermcdaniel7792]

You’re calling fallen Hope crash when it’s a good boss killer AR mine is completely maxed out and it’s a good damage

[@PhoenixUnity07]

I've never seen 1 person use it, EVER. You think this is secretly a sleeper S tier? Nah.

[@AnthonyLopez-cc9nf]

Lol this is such a streamer list for anyone that has a million hours to grind. Dont listen to this. The Organ and Tamer are amazing until you have a million hours to grind 5 copies of enduring legacy and the like lol

[@Clockwork-Heart]

Even 1 legacy is a direct upgrade to tamer and it's not even hard to get, 2-3 days tops if you don't have a "million hours". Your laziness is not our (or this "streamer list's") problem. I hate to say this because it's cringe af but, git gud lil bro.

[@judisalad]

not really since organ can easily be swapped for python on gley (if you arent spamming it why use it then? ) and 1 enduring is still better than tamer

[@zelohendricks51]

​​@Clockwork-Heart "laziness" is a braindead take. Rng is rng. Classic clownery from this community. "Get good".

[@Clockwork-Heart]

@@zelohendricks51Legacy parts all have a high drop rate. It's not an Ult Gley grind. There is literally no other excuse than laziness to still be using a Tamer. Stop encouraging lazy people bro, it doesn't help them improve and drags us down when they join bosses.

[@zelohendricks51]

@Clockwork-Heart Again. Rng is rng. I'm talking about facts, not your opinion. Toxic goofs saying "get good" don't help. That promotes toxic culture. I've been going for EL for about 2 weeks now and don't have the mats to make 1. Guess I'm just lazy. Sure bud. Rng plays little to no roll in that at all

[@Weavis69]

If you are salty about Greg’s. Toughen up. it’s annoying to anyone that isn’t using it, which would be 98% of the players because it’s just a crutch for those who can’t get something better and mistakenly wasted Catalyst on it.

[@PhoenixUnity07]

You must be under the impression that this is a good tier list if you think Greg's isn't at least top 5 on anything that wont frenzy in 2 seconds. Obviously it's not the OMG BEST WEAPON! But to trash on the weapon like you're doing is ignorant.

[@Weavis69]

@@PhoenixUnity07 if you think it’s top five. All the more to you, it’s an easy starter weapon to max out. But if you have to use it to cope with the fact that farming for other more useful weapons is too hard, it is not a top five weapon. Overall is it good, yes. But does impede the line of site on mobs and other smaller bosses in dungeon? Yes. The tier list was made as an overall usefulness, its overall trash during dungeon runs in groups, solo sure it’s fine but there better out there, it’s alright for bossing, but most people don’t realize that if the boss is moving. It’s pointless to use, the splash dmg proc is slower than the movement speed of the bosses. Therefore making it less useful. And even beyond that, it’s less useful because there are other builds that outshine it by tenfold. Narrow minded thinking is why people think Greg’s is some godsend. But I can also agree to disagree, this is my opinion so it only affects me. But doesn’t make it any less true either.

[@Osama_BeenBallin_]

avterglow B piercing lighting S Bro comon greg C-B fellen hope B Secret garden A Restored relic Trash for sure Blue beatlle C Yep two pistols Trash Albion cavalery trash Enduring legacy i dont test it yet but ye 100% True list

[@PhoenixUnity07]

He's right though. Idk wtf trash posts you been reading that tell you otherwise. You probably saw that "AGS is actually better than PL" post on Reddit but didn't read the comments where everyone was proving them wrong.