GTA 5 - 5 Conversations About Grove Street, CJ, OG Loc & Madd Dogg (GTA San Andreas)

[@NinjaXFiles]

The thought of CJ being alive and well with his friends somewhere in modern San Andreas. It's fascinating I'm surprised online mentions OG Loc. I wasn't expecting that, I knew about Madd Dogg.

[@olucaspc]

I will never understand why rockstar refuses to make fan service for the fans by connecting every gta

[@sgtroach1510]

I can kinda see why since a lot of video games and movies do that

[@Dj_A7]

Bro it takes nearly a year to make a next season for a movie or a series But it took 8 yrs to make gta 5 And gta 6 is still under processing for 9+ yrs we haven’t heard anything about the game from the company except that it’s happening Point is u can’t keep puting the same actors cuz there is a lot of them and they would be old maybe some of them would die so no i prefer to make a story based on my choice of cast and script Not what the future holds for the old actors

[@davidparkes7741]

​@@Dj_A7 Plus some of those actors are on bad terms with Rockstar (namely CJ's actor himself).

[@davidparkes7741]

Also the biggest reason why CJ, Sweet or anyone else from San Andreas don't appear? Cause of it being in a different universe, the 3D universe, whereas we're in the HD universe now.

[@lactosetolerance45]

@@davidparkes7741 if it’s in a different universe, then how is it not a myth and is mentioned a couple different times?

[@Julian1999psx]

The fact that Franklin met Madd Dogg is absolutely mental. 0_0

[@derrickrankinjr2798]

I swear I never knew Jimmy knew about “The Grove” that was hilarious 😂😂😂😂

[@a3a222]

They say it's a separate universe but still do them connections. Mindfuck

[@JuriSins]

Perhaps what Rockstar is implying is yes, the universes are spilt up by generations but the rules of characters existing in more than one universe is a possibility and thing (seen through lazlow and music artists) Meaning that there could had been a HD universe CJ who went through the SA story but set in a different map, with some other differences too. If minor characters can co-exist in more than one universe, the rule certainly implies to the protagonists. Note worth mentioning that there is a Claude outfit you can wear in Playboy X's apartment which could be a reference but who knows, maybe there was a HD Claude running around in 2001 Liberty City?

[@andonym]

Claude was a choosable parent in oldgen gta online

[@MJH129]

That's possible considering the implications. With how different Liberty City is in the HD Universe no way GTA 3's story could've happened. But Claude being in Liberty City is possible. With his clothes being in Playboy's house he likely died by Playboy X's hands ( definitely by cowardly means, not in a direct confrontation)

[@ivanvanechok1679]

what’s HD universe

[@alifismy5689]

​@@ivanvanechok1679the universe consisting of GTA 4 and it's episodes, 5 and Online, and 6. GTA 3, Vice City, and San Andreas are apart of the 3D Universe. It's named that way because of how advanced the graphics are.

[@gamingguy8929]

I like how all the GTA'S are all connected and like that they still references to old GTA games I hate how so people come up with random shit saying they are different and not connected when there is evidence they are like the GTA IV Easter egg of san andreas and V with Franklin and lamar

[@mr.andrew7820]

Mfs will say this and not be able to explain how the hell did Liberty City change It's geography, gangs, locations and history 4 times in 10 years

[@MJH129]

You know i wonder if in the HD Universe continuity if HD CJ was ever Mad Dogg's manager or they parted ways. Cuz Franklin's business usually deals with Celebs' issues and why would Madd Dogg not ask CJ to deal with it? Unless he thinks Franklin is more reliable and capable.

[@Multi.nucleas-]

3d universe is connected confirmed

[@CALVIN.M]

Hey,Families got kicked outta here a long time ago -Ballas (in mission hood safari)

[@kionisua8564]

Im not the biggest lore guy, but in my head Grove Street devolved or something, But sure Carl is ballin' like how Franklin is now. Least thats what i think from binge watching GTA Lore videos, Sweet was like Salvatore: a old school gangster but not innovative, unlike Carl he moved on to other more lucrative business ventures but im sure he's ok at least along with his sister and Ceaser.

[@Chasanese]

Franklin high key underrated !! A hood mfer who had his mind on straight 💯 his character ain’t praised enough

[@skaterkid7able]

For people that think things like this makes the 3D universe and HD universe the same, it doesn't, all it is is easter eggs and nods to previous games, another simpler way of looking at it is similar events and characters exist in both universes, does not mean they are all in one

[@evgenygolubev8934]

Grove Street in GTA V? That is interesting

[@BigMelvinHarrisSmoke]

Grove Street does exist in GTA V, just not the gang

[@ralphlorenzperolino3054]

Play the mission Hood Safari and you will see.

[@evgenygolubev8934]

@@ralphlorenzperolino3054 Yep, I know.

[@FALG31]

I don't remember much about GTA San Andreas, I could never get past the RC plane mission. But didn't OG Loc get killed by CJ at one point?

[@daniel-rl3gw]

you just really need to keep up with Loc within the whole race. killing him is optional. plus there's also a scene for not killing him.

[@ufcsimulatedleague8321]

Canonically, he survives. In Franklin's loft, you can see a gold plaque saying "OG Loc"

[@BigMelvinHarrisSmoke]

@@ufcsimulatedleague8321 “Canonically” it’s not the same universe

[@ufcsimulatedleague8321]

@@BigMelvinHarrisSmoke thats their lazy excuse incase a plot hole is created within the mistakes of story development

[@blackroberts6290]

no he aint dead he just got lightly bonked by CJ at the game

[@goodmonkey1244]

Gta san andreas is very good game :)

[@BigMelvinHarrisSmoke]

Yes it’s a very VERY good game, perhaps one of the best

[@EzKOand.D.BiggestD0gg0]

I didnt know they mentioned Truth

[@drakeniko1298]

Interesting how gta 5 not same universe as we know from gta SA but still have its existence but just different Storyline like how GS got disband [but Serville and Temple Drive Families still on the hood but not in together as "Families"] not to mention GS place got take over by Ballas imo

[@mr.andrew7820]

There is no Seville or Temple in Gta 5,the Gta 5 sets are Chamberlain Gangster Families,Carson Avenue Families,Davis Neighborhood Families and Forum Drive Families

[@oneandonlyjonny]

I'm going to end this argument right here all GTA games are connected and red dead games are connected to GTA 5 so it's all one big timeline

[@MJH129]

Well at their HD Universe's versions of their events at least. The Red Dead Games that we play don't take place in the same universe but their events could have been very similar.

[@Retro3]

No they aren't, it would be cool tho

[@oneandonlyjonny]

@@Retro3 yes they are

[@mr.andrew7820]

​@@oneandonlyjonnyRockstar says: El Burro is referenced as he was also referenced in GTA 1, so it felt appropriate that he should cross “universes” - the “universes” are the worlds interpreted at different definitions, 2d, 3d and high definition, so we felt brands and radio / back ground characters would exist in both, but 3 dimensional characters would not. This is the logic (as far as it could be considered logical) behind it - so no, we don’t believe any GTA3 characters could exist in the GTA4 universe. Rockstar games-gta 3 QEA

[@theneccromancer1997]

0:57 Burn the weed That's exactly what I was doing watching that video :)

[@supergokufan23498]

1:10-1:11

[@Batang_goreng]

Pertama komen

[@matthewsmith6176]

Please do Noob to to pro experience with Paige Harris!!!!! been asking for ages

[@Yun_Abraxas]

You know Paige ain't a noob right? She's a pro since the the first heist

[@bananadaily2317]

these talk makes no sense,i thought 3d universe wasn’t canon

[@MuhammadFirdaus-qs3vt]

Probably a different Grove Street Fam from what we know and love. Their talking about it is perhaps just an easter egg for the older fans. Although it kinda sad that Rockstar has effectively killed off them by disbanding before the story of GTAV, probably couldn't fit in the tale much. Judging from Lamar and even Jimmy bringing it up, they probably did something famous back in the day

[@reiandraathillah1747]

@@MuhammadFirdaus-qs3vt but madd dogg and og loc is famous in gta 5 universe

[@michazmuda1477]

@@reiandraathillah1747 That just fan service. They are not same people we met in SA.

[@Fahrettin6832]

Gta Sa and Gta 5 are 2 separate universes, one is 3D and the other is HD universe, they are 2 different universes apart from each other.

[@angelaelisa8499]

is this was are Grove Street Families is do not " Family Grove Street Families of this " Families it a " The Families Factions Stands of affiliated The Families Factions That's emblem

[@nikobellic9274]

why do you speak english not indonesia Google translate

[@nevermind2550]

Mau ke pringkat international ya kan