Does This Theory FIX My FNAF Timeline?! | I Solved MatPat's Sister Location Problem (ID's Fantasy)

[@IDsFantasy]

Alright, I've finished the video, and I disagree with the disagreeing on my Candy Cadet ideas (guess I'll be bumping that one up on the priority list) and would like to clarify that I do think MoltenMCI would still be the original MCI kids from 1985, just picked up after FNAF 3, though if soul splitting is at play they could have ended up in there at any point leaving SL open in the timeline. Can't wait to see the rest of the reactions! Thank you so much :D

[@alalalala57]

Needs to be pinned!

[@NEWDOG-kf3rk]

Here before pin

[@glitchking2801]

Get this to top comment

[@nicholite697]

Here before pin.

[@abdullahemek2488]

omg thats the youtuber from the video that matpat reacted to!

[@MrSirWivd]

i love how mat was only 14 seconds into the video and just got completely annihilated just being called out. his reaction was legit hilarious.

[@LewsTherinTelescope]

That was amazing, and I appreciate that Matt's willing to roll with the punches there lol.

[@valor1omega]

​​@@LewsTherinTelescopeIn the past he wasn't so "chill" about getting called out. Gamer from Mars was extremely respectful and did a documentarish style of video on Game Theory and Matt acted like he was verbally assaulted six ways from Sunday. Or anyone with any legitimate criticism of him he treated like a personal attack. So it's nice to see him able to handle legitimate criticism these days.

[@LewsTherinTelescope]

@@valor1omega Glad to see he's grown a lot, then

[@punprincess3214]

I didn't even care to watch the rest of the video, I just kept watching that part

[@geostorm8192]

I guess you could say he was _caught in a landslide_

[@camilaacosta1508]

Love the fact that Matt takes really well to constructive criticism

[@seankock7649]

Nowadays

[@naomif9964]

​@@seankock7649 we're all always growing

[@TylerrTazer]

@@seankock7649 I'm sure you used to wear diapers but it's weird to bring that up to discredit that you don't wear them now.

[@-Apothecary-]

​@@TylerrTazer Frrrr

[@seankock7649]

@@naomif9964 im happy for him

[@UndeadScience]

The idea that Michael was helping collect remnant.. it actually makes a sick sort of sense. Imagine being the cause of your little brother’s death. your father is sent spiraling, your mother leaves, and you’re left to deal with this guilt alone. And then your father tells you “there’s a way you can make it all better. Just do what I say. Help me put him back together.”

[@Cece._gvcha]

I just cannot believe that no matter what I want I just can’t imagine Micheal helping his dad I can’t imagine him aiding the bad guy 😭😭

[@Beefoulotus-OFFICALL]

​​​​@@Cece._gvchamicheal is crying child that means that william needed to put Remnant where did he get it from a kid if what i said is true that means that cc is doing what his father told him to do 4 Or he didn't listen and put the evil back and if henry Burned fnaf 6 pizzeria that means he probably knew the fnaf 3 restaurant burnt also Henry burnt fnaf 6 pizzeria to get the last souls also use candy cadets storys for lore you see that candy cadet is telling a rettilling of ennard aminatronics become one and also Funtime freddy is molten freddy or ennard if micheal did evil he wouldn't have came to freddy fazbears matpat see this

[@Cece._gvcha]

@@Beefoulotus-OFFICALL Michael is not cc.. that’s quite the old theory too 😭

[@Beefoulotus-OFFICALL]

​@@Cece._gvchadont know what i was thinking

[@Beefoulotus-OFFICALL]

​@@Cece._gvchaalso if micheal is ccs brother that means if he burnt down fnaf 3 Henry would somehow see so he did the same thing for the last souls and dave looking at a mall is like fnaf sb because its a mall

[@MarKreationsStudios]

She's a relatively new theorist and I love her thoughts on things! She deserves this shout-out!

[@NerdAlert4224]

Ikr, someone who commended on her video was hoping he’d react. I really like her take on things

[@SarahAbramova]

I've really enjoyed her theories!

[@Yumi_Jay]

She was mentioned recently on the latest theory video along with John from Funaff. I like how Matt encouraged people to make theory videos when he was discussing copyright laws on film theory recently.

[@IDsFantasy]

Thank you :D

[@samhinojosa2011]

I found her yesterday and caught up. I love her videos she has a great personality for these videos.

[@quincykoala3309]

I love when he works with the community like this showing how he cares about including all members of the fanbase.

[@CJ5C]

meat snake

[@youtuberfanyoutuberfan4661]

@Don't Read My Profile Photo ok

[@vincentussy]

​@Don't Read My Profile Photo shut up.

[@Michael-oj5iu]

Yay😊

[@cravercrash5074]

yeah and people on twitter keep asking him to quit fnaf theories but you get nice stuff like this lol

[@XIN3OHd]

That intro burn was fantastic

[@CJ5C]

meat snake

[@frostbitetheannunakiiceind6574]

Bro got destroyed XD

[@ToastComix]

The shade 😭🙏

[@hulorend7405]

@DontReadMyProfilePhoto_3 Get out of my head

[@youraveragetryhard2928]

Rip mattpat

[@0ttomatic]

I think it's really telling that during the interview with Dawko, when asked about which ending was canon for FNAF 3, Scott said that the answer was "very interesting" and "complex" but ultimately decided not to say which was canon. Maybe we all have put too much faith in the Good Ending of FNAF 3 being canon when the opposite could actually be true?

[@spiritwolf448]

Yeah, I'm surprised no one talks about that more

[@chriiiiis]

In my heart, it's the cannon ending

[@milesfernando]

I feel like it's neither. The endings show all 5 of the souls are either there or not. From what's been going on, I think that the main four have moved on, but Golden Freddy would still be "on."

[@Envy_May]

maybe it splits the timeline like zelda

[@cluver99]

YEEEES. Thats it! I'm always talking about thaaat. The Bad Ending is the canon for that game at this point. Obviously we can pick up things from the Good Ending minigames like the Golden Freddy indentity as the crying child (or cassidy or whatever you want to believe) but the real canon ening is the one where the spirits remaing in their suits

[@tjgreatness2106]

Something I (and probably others) just noticed about the Candy Cadet stories is how the woman, kid, and old man all make different decisions. The woman makes a conscious choice to act, the kid chooses inaction, and the old man has no choice at all. I have no idea what it could mean, but it was something I noticed.

[@sarhahillsburg5142]

Also Candy Cadet story with kittens wasn't 5 kittens died. Only ONE of the kittens are stitched back together which reminds me of "I'll will put you back together" of crying child who gets head bitten. Yeah? Idk why he makes it seem its five kittens stitched together like the 5 children in one coffin. If anything the 2nd story with kittens sticks out as odd one cause only one death. Similar to either Charlie's deaths and crying child. While the woman and old man both are about 5 of something being made into 1. 5 keys melted into one. 5 kids stitched into one. I feel he may be a but confused or stuck on his thoughts

[@YoBoyNeptune]

​@@sarhahillsburg5142 I think many people assume the snake came back to eat a kitten every night

[@IDsFantasy]

Yep!

[@Mir4NiC0]

just re listened to the candy cadet stories and it says the snake eats one kitten per night for five nights…

[@Mir4NiC0]

it only changes to the singular once the kitten pieces are sewn together to form one kitten

[@TartarusHimself]

matpat not being invited to events related to things he plays a big part in is a hilarious running gag but i hope he gets to do the fun relevant stuff soon

[@phayes84]

It’s funny. But, I also feel bad for MatPat. He deserves to be invited to these things. He takes it way more gracefully then I would.

[@garlicxlr]

I mean... You don't invite the Harlem Globetrotters to a friendly game of basket.

[@AllisterVinris]

Well as the one holding the answers, you really don't want the one whose whole job is to ask questions in the same room as you.

[@jonathan97107]

Rumored he’s in the fnaf movie 🍿

[@CosmicNebula444]

It's hilarious that every time Mat finds a new fnaf theorist, he immediately gets them to join the team All will be assimilated Soon, it will be just Matpat

[@nihili4196]

Blobpat confirmed?

[@TheWhanos]

Fuhnaff isn't part of the team

[@Silvia_Arienti]

​@@TheWhanos*_yet_*

[@TheWhanos]

@Silvia Arienti i don't think he's going to join team theorist

[@squardzilla8043]

Matpat is just playing theorist Monopoly

[@beck3319]

Huge props to MatPat to giving such a small creator the spotlight! I found Id's Fantasy the last few weeks waiting for him to finish his timeline, she's such a good channel!

[@BloodyJoker234]

I think her candy cadet theory is actually so intelligent and makes so much sense and I feel like people are gonna look back and see how I’m point she was it shows that Charlie failed to save them, Michael is trying to piece it together and Henry is trying to just put it all in 1 coffin and get rid of everything

[@Alotaro-the-Real]

Honestly this. I'm not very deeply intune with the FnaF theories and stuff, i basically only watch the Fnaf theory stuff that comes out on this channel and has only started doing so since around when he first reacted to FuhNaffs theories, so this is my first time being exposed to the Candy Cadet stories. My first thought, though driven by only surface level knowledge, was to associate the three in the way she did. That section here kinda made me want to tell Mat to listen to his own prior statement on Occam's razor. Cause hes right in that the villain in the stories seem to be doing the same thing, killing or destroying innocence, but the three protagonists, the Woman, the Boy, and the Man are all doing different things. The Woman is trying to save them all but she can't(instantly makes me think of the "you can't" sequence), the Boy passively allows their suffering but in regret "fixes" them and brings them back together again(don't actually remember all the games but this has me thinking of them being gathered for the one where the fire happens burning them all), and the final one with the Man who only had one coffin to put them all to rest in(the burning pizzeria itself could very well be this coffin, the place where he put them all to rest). To sum up the three protagonist all seem to be doing different things, with seemingly different motivations thus making it the most simple solution(Occam's Razor) that they are all different characters.

[@BloodyJoker234]

@@Alotaro-the-Real like you said it sucks Mattpatt isn’t seeing it because it’s very obvious once you see it this way that’s why he is so confused trying to decipher it cause he is stuck in the path of thought. What you said is right in the money and I agree and it adds so much to the lore to see which characters are a focus

[@Alotaro-the-Real]

@@BloodyJoker234 I genuinely think this is something Mat can be said to struggle with in general, in that at this point he already has a predefined theory that encompases just about the entireity of the Fnaf Series. So if someone brings up something that doesn't agree with it, even something like this with the Cadet Stories, his first instinct is to argue and dismiss, not because he is being malicious in any way but because his universal theory has, because he has worked with it so much, become his baseline for what "makes sense" in the Fnaf series. So even this with the Cadet stories don't "make sense" or are not "simple" cause he's subconsciously operating with a different baseline. Everytime he is met with a different theory he essentially has to go through a process of reseting his baseline before he can handle it constructively. At least that's my impression from this video and the ones where he reacted to Fuhnaffs theories.

[@BloodyJoker234]

@@Alotaro-the-Real absolutely I’d say that he should be like that if you don’t have confidence in your theory then it’s probably not a good one I get it completely and I know once he figures it out he will come around reluctantly because I know how much work goes into redoing everything after you figure out 1 thing is different. I wasn’t attacking him just saying that this new theorist on the scene came in with some heat

[@IDsFantasy]

Exactly!

[@darkwubshd4961]

We can tell Matt goes to therapy by how well he handles confrontation

[@Existingisannoying]

💀

[@turtorilla]

lmao

[@just_an_internet_explorer8038]

💀

[@sky0kast0]

Roasted Michigan life

[@aa_batterybloomin1305]

Working in live theater and an on-the-road actor certainly helps. Plus being a KZbin og lol

[@zariasafonova7220]

First glance: Yes, MatPat did stretch a 16 minute video into an hour and 8 minutes After watching: I can't believe I underestimated MatPat

[@paulreu7118]

It seems you have overlooked that he only used 6 minutes of these 16 and stretched these into an hour. Truly an amzing feat on matpats part

[@zariasafonova7220]

@@paulreu7118 Truly next level. I look forward to MatPat breaking his current video:theorizing record

[@zsation240]

Matpat could make a 12hour video over a single picture.

[@AceFaz]

​@@zariasafonova7220 NEWWW RECORD!!! Theory : Video 9 : 1

[@flyingfairything]

​@@paulreu7118 he straight up turned each minute into almost 10

[@royliber3824]

The more ID's Fantsay explains the Candy Cadet stories, the more I think each of the stories actually do represent different parts from the timeline and in each occasion there was a different entity tampering with the 5 dead children. Like mentioned in the comments, even the story about the woman makes sense if she is represented as the Puppet. I would love to see a live debate between ID's Fantasy and Game Theories at one point where they expand completely on the FNaF timeline and events till they manage to cover any plot-hole there might be.

[@Archfiend_Sushi7746]

Thank you for that, an interesting contribution and food for thought for me.

[@aniqueevans1547]

It makes me feel so validated that even Matpat with his encyclopedic knowledge of FNAF still had to pause and process what she's saying because she's packs in so much info so quickly into her sentences. I had to watch her video at 0.75 speed just so I could absorb the information and not get lost.

[@Just_Jam94]

I know what you mean, I had to slow down aswell, but in my case that was slowing to 1.0, when my YT standard speed is 1.25 (1.5 for some channels). And I don't even care that much :D

[@justnd0257]

Oof, glad that MatPat has a sense of humour and isn't above laughing at himself because that dig was brutal af. 😬

[@adammurphy5699]

When Afton disassembles the animatronics, the souls of the children could stay in the building, but the agony of their death stays with the metal collected. Seems likes the most logical reasoning based on how this franchise operates now.

[@Just_Jam94]

I think that looking at "how this franchise operates" isn't the best approach. This franchise operates in chaos. Always were and probably always will be, becouse it's how it keeps people hooked. When answer seems to be just around the corner, but you can never reach it (b/c FNaF doesn't have right answer) you will chase it as long as you have motivation - which is usually fueled by fan content. In the end it's just bunch of random bullshit, which people try to make sens of. But it's fun, so I'm happy to roll with it :)

[@ArachnidSyther]

I completely Subscribe to this and believe it may have been eluded to at some point in the books (But I forget where).

[@sanicinapanic4264]

@Nightsun642 Well yeah it the fun times were made to capture kids they (Elizbeth dies) then they are injected with remnant except for baby (But that's just a theory a comment theory)

[@johnnyreed8144]

I was just about to say this, thanks lol

[@curse5697]

ikr? even matpat made a theory saying that you could extract the remnant of the metal and the "anger" or something like that, which is their agony and anger

[@elijahloiacono]

I can NOT say how many years it's been since a 1+hours video was in the top 50 on trending. Congrats Mat, that's quite the accomplishment!

[@robotic-race]

This could've very easily been under an hour lol

[@Mardikuz]

@@robotic-race it wouldn't be gtnotlive so

[@Gallarday]

​@@robotic-race and? Xd

[@aldii8614]

my lizard brain didn't get distracted for an entire HOUR!

[@imaboisir7227]

Less than a year bro

[@demon21gr9]

Now Candy Cadet's story with the keys reminded me somewhat of the puppet. A female figure trying to save 5 children, but failing to do so, imprisoning them. And we see the puppet, with the soul of Charlie, trying to save the souls of the dead children, but instead of setting them free, she puts them inside the animatronics, imprisoning them for eternity, until FNAF 3 where Michael makes them relive their "Happiest Day". Even the action makes sense, being protective and thinking its the best thing to do. The only problem is the key, like, what does it represent?

[@mushqoom663]

maybe the key represents the puppet trying to give all the different children the same solution, yet in turn giving a solution to none of them

[@verdantmistral442]

@@mushqoom663 Additionally, the key is give life. Whatever the puppet did to give life was the key. Though it does hint that she may have been able to actually save one of the five. Only four had to actually die, but her solution doomed all five.

[@florencedelves7409]

Perhaps they key represents Mike, as a key to the door of the afterlife. But that ultimately fails, as the bad ending of fnaf 3, I think at least, is cannon, so the souls aren't at rest just like they children were never freed because the key didn't manage to open any of them

[@WestyZaffles]

YESSS thought the same thing but wanted to see if someone else thought it before me lol… draws more parallels with the puppet than Willie

[@braydenbanks4228]

A note of what ID's Fantasy might've meant when she said: Woman=Charlie, Boy=Michael, Old Man=Henry is that the actions of the Woman, Boy, and Old Man mirror the actions of their implied parallel. Charlie, who, took five lost and hopeless souls, and bound them to one singular purpose, but only made the problem worse. Michael, who, in his ignorance of the problem, caused the problem to get worse, then feeling guilty about his part, cleaned up the mess that the snake(his father) had made. Finally, there's Henry who tried to make everyone happy, but when someone burgled that happiness, he used what little power and resources he had remaining to try and put the matter to rest.

[@mrksimka1159]

Couldn't say it better myself. Especially Charlie part.

[@laraschroeder5195]

The man in the story and Henry both brought the children to one place, but unlike the Man, Henry brought them on purpose to have them all killed at once, whilst the Man never intended to bring them all in one place to have them killed. The Man brought them to one place to protect them Henry brought them to one place to destroy them

[@kksmith2282]

Thanks, I understood the other two (especially Henry - if you listen to the story thinking about that it fits so well) but I was having trouble seeing the Charlie parallel. But this makes sense :3

[@braydenbanks4228]

@@laraschroeder5195 I understand your thoughts there, but the entire point of what I was saying is that the story of the old man is a parallel to Henry's entire role throughout the franchise, especially if you give weight to this new timeline, as Henry created a place for all children to have fun, thus bringing all of the missing children's incident victims to 1 place. After they were killed by the Burglar(William Afton), he stitched them back together(brought them all to the pizzeria simulator location), and buried them together(burned down the pizzeria simulator location to set the souls free and disbanded Freddy Fazbear entertainment as a corporate entity).

[@personismaybe0610]

@@laraschroeder5195 the old man has to be Michael in my opinion. He’s the only character apart from Charlie that wants to help and protect the spirits.

[@alienorca4137]

I love it when responds to criticism of his theories, because he’s not a jerk when he does it and he acknowledges that they’re not perfect. I wish he did this more often.

[@Mike_Dubo]

I honestly believe he should do some kind of "Theory Redux" deal, where he goes back to look at the criticism of previous theories, and see if they still hold water. He says these theories are suppossed to bring out discussions, but that doesn't happen much if you make barely any sort of visibls response on your channel, and most of the comments are just different variations of congradulatory statements.

[@johnman8398]

​@@Mike_Dubo His theories do promote discussion though, there several twitter threads, reddit posts and even youtubers who talk about the theories matpat makes. His own comment section is just a drop in the bucket compared to how much discussion practically everywhere else his theories promote.

[@gaminganimators7000]

Not anymore anyways

[@Just_Jam94]

@@johnman8398 I think the point is that it should be discussion with MatPat, not among rest of the community, when he is only proposing topic of discussion. I also wish he would do that more often.

[@Pizzaetertje]

Flashback to the hollow knight theory

[@SethLordChannel]

I had a thought while watching this and the Candy Cadet thing really intrigued me. I don’t think ID’s Fantasy is too far off on the allusion to the three characters representing Charlie, Michael, and Henry. Each story actually DOES present a fourth factor, one that causes the stories to differentiate. Each story is similar in that there is a focal person, five things dead or trapped, and a thing that causes the trapping/death. The fourth, differentiating factor is their actions/results. The Woman tries to set these five kids free from the rooms someone trapped them in, but she can’t. Charlie tries to set the five spirits free from the animatronics (rooms) that William trapped them in, but she can’t. The Boy turns a blind eye to his snake killing the five kittens, then turns on it and tries to set things right, but he can’t. Michael turns a blind eye to his father (the snake), then turns against his father and tries to set things right, but he can’t. The Man discovers that the five children were killed, he stitches/brings the kids together, and lays them to rest in a single coffin. Henry discovers that the lost souls are still out there, gathers the souls to one location (the coffin), his last solution, and burns the building down to lay them to rest.

[@notapplicable4044]

I had the same thought! Also this would imply that the happiest day ending in fnaf 3 probably wasnt the ending the story has been building off of because Charlie couldnt free the spirits like she does in the mini game.

[@CaptainRickey]

Except the snake only kills one kitten, not 5. There is no 5 becoming one in that story.

[@GhoulishGwyn]

@@CaptainRickeyI think that’s where it works if we interpret the kitten as Elizabeth. Michael tries to help her, but ends up freeing Ennard and getting scooped.

[@Artemis13579]

Omg this! Love this

[@Artemis13579]

​@@CaptainRickeywhen he tries to put together the remains isnt that 5 kittens being stitched together?

[@AryaTheTerrorTabby]

Please invite her to the talk back!!! She has some wonderful theories, plus it would be nice to see more ladies on the screen. Ps. RyeToast has some great points too for another theorist to invite 😊

[@blubber9047]

I love ryetoast so much. A lot of what he says builds off of MatPat and it’s great

[@QuincyChen]

Those two and FuhNaff would be great!

[@ajkcool]

I think Matt doesn't react to/watch RyeToast is because Toast either: A. Builds off of what Matt already said B. Comes up with so many small theories, there's too much to react to

[@ziridestaudios]

YES

[@AstralShot]

Yeah I vouch for her to be invited

[@ems_stars]

Ok, actually, the candy cadet stories being representive of charlie, micheal, and henry works really well imo. Each story is essentially telling the same story from 3 different perspectives: the young woman has the power to help one innocent but in trying to help them all instead dooms them, the young boy ignoring the problem until its too late while being complicit in their initiation, and the man trying his best to help the kids but by doing so makes it easier for them to be killed (being in the same house) followed by combining thier bodies. All these line up well with the stories of Charlie, Micheal, and Henry as we know them right now. Charlie, killed at a young age and trapped in the puppet, tried her best to help the other kids who were killed by giving them life in the suits. Though she did not realise how that would be torment eventually and being trapped in the suits was not the best outcome. Micheal, the instigator of missing childrens incident in so much that he got his little brother killed, was passive, unaware, or even helpful for his father's cruel actions in the years to follow. When he learns of the true scale and reality of what his father had done, he regretted what he did and went around attempting to put things back together and release the souls. Make it as it should have been. And arguably, he is the reason ennard/molten freddy was able to get out of the basement. Here, the kitten and molten freddy are certain direct parallels. Lastly, Henry. This one, I'll admit, is a little less clean cut from my understanding and what we know for sure so far, so I am eager to see what ID's Fantasy says about this theory. However, Henry is presented as a gentle man who just wants to help and entertain kids. It's when his partnership with William takes a turn for the worst, through the events of Charlie being killed, Henry is absorbed in grief or his work and isn't paying attention to William and what he is doing in the place they built to entertain kids. Here, when he isn't paying attention, William strikes, and Henry feels responsible due to him thinking he could've stopped it by doing whatever measures he thinks he may have been able to put in place. Now I find it's a bit sticky. The story says that the gentle man sewed the children together to fit in the coffin which doesn't quite line up with the story as I feel it is very unlikely Henry is involved in the creation of the funtimes and subsequent molten freddy (again, direct parallel between molten freddy and the stitched together children). Though, he may have had some role in the development of the technology from after Charlie died. Anyways, I think this is a very interesting thread to follow and consider.

[@hierroarcanjo451]

I mean, if you think about it right, the part about the coffin might not be about the children dying anymore, and instead be about how he lures Baby, Michael, William, Molten and Charlie all to die in a single place. Kinda prefacing his plan with Candy Cadet.

[@tobiletsplay]

​@@hierroarcanjo451 yo thats not bad

[@CaptainRickey]

To add to this: Molten MCI relies on there being 5 endoskeletons to melt down into 1 remnant injector. Problem number 1: golden freddy is attached to 2 souls not 1, therefore it should've been 6 into 1, not 5. Problem number 2: golden freddy doesn't have an endo skeleton. Can't be molten down because Cassidy is still clearly connected to Golden Freddy post FNAF 6 and not the funtimes so it should be 4 into 1. Problem number 3: Candy cadet's story never tells about the remnant being split across the funtimes. Does that mean FTF is the only one actually possessed by Molten MCI? Maybe, but consider this: in SL, who stands out from the others? It's not FTF, it's baby. Baby is clearly different from the others. That inherently groups FTF with the other animatronics, which would mean that either all of them are possessed or none of them are. I also wanted to add that it's afaik never stated (at least not in the games) that remnant IS the soul of a kid. It's called remnant, and the name might be more indicative of what it is. It is like agony, emotion left behind by a soul after it inhabited the object. So it's not so much that the souls of MCI are in molten freddy, but that the remnant of the souls (whether that be MCI or other kids) are in molten freddy.

[@robotstar3876]

​@@CaptainRickey isnt the rarely endoskeleton moving around but not killing u in FNAF 2 the golden freedy's endoskeleton. I think it fits alot becuz in FNAF 1 their was an endoskeleton sitting in the parts and services room on the table which in rare occurrences in the camera u can see it looking at u. And Cassidy almost controls the whole golden freedy suit cuz she is a powerful spirit while crying child doesnt.

[@origon4477]

But the 5 keys melted into 1 doesn't sound a lot like Charlie and the puppet. When does the puppet put 5 things into 1? Doesn't make sense to me

[@averyhere]

I literally found this creator 1 hour ago, watched this theory, and said to myself: "It would be so cool if MatPat reacted to this video, I think he would enjoy it" and now here we are.

[@itsahuntressmain9849]

Cap

[@scader_shot]

@@itsahuntressmain9849 Oak

[@randomnoob101flyhightweek]

@@itsahuntressmain9849 okayyyy???

[@thefallen2220]

I watched ita few days ago

[@purplepikmin3533]

@@itsahuntressmain9849 💀

[@DessArtem]

I think one of the strongest takeaways from the Candy Cadet stories is the running theme of Futility. This especially ties the key story to the others, in that no matter what each person does to put things back together, they can't bring about the happy outcome they want. I wonder if Michael had helped William in the past and is trying to fix his own mistakes as well as his father's. (That would be an interesting story in general, a killer trying to bring their victims back to life.)

[@aidandowns2570]

With the Candy Cadet story, the shared coffin in the man’s story could be referring to how Henry burnt down the Fnaf 6 location, making it a common burial ground for all the spirits

[@cloroxart]

Can we take a moment to appreciate the editing team for the four parts?

[@kevinalston5441]

I do think the Candy Cadet stories being different people (Charlie, Michael, and Henry) makes sense. If you look at as each story as their reaction to the Missing Children Incident. Charlie in trying to save all of them fails to save any of them. Michael, who basically doesn’t function because of the Crying Child Incident, regrets not stopping his father and tries fixing it. When Henry finds out he as to put them to rest the only way he knows how.

[@fishbowl5308]

See the issue I have with both sides is that neither work perfectly. If you look at them separately why are each one putting the five together. If you look at them like mat he's right there is an extra character who doesn't make sense. I think looking at the key story as a separate one is honestly the only one that makes sense as the keys could represent quite a lot

[@IONATVS]

@@fishbowl5308 narrative parallelism? either because it’s 3 different characters reacting to the same event (the 5 kids being murdered) in different ways, or because they’re narrative foils of each other. IDK if the theory is correct, but i can see 3 stories sounding similar but not all being allegories for the exact same thing, but rather 3 different stories that all tie into a central shared plot point (ie the MCI).

[@Rabid_Mushroom]

I wonder if the fact that there are specifically three stories is at all relevant. If all the stories where the same, wouldn't it make more sense if there where five stories?

[@fishbowl5308]

@@IONATVS even then why are two reactions stitching the dead together. I can see that with the keys. Say the keys represent each life Charlie trying to save all of them failed to save any. It's the other 2 I can't see. Why would Henry or Mike be stitching the bodies together what would that even mean if not fusing the kids together. The more I think on it the more my head hurts I can only imagine the sheer pain anyone trying to theorize about this franchise goes through

[@r.achmadrivaldi8598]

@@fishbowl5308 I agree with you. I can see Charlie trying to safe these kids and freed them. But for both Micheal and Henry, idk.

[@corruptspectator973]

i’m so happy that she is getting this wide show so people are going to start watching her more, she absolutely deserves it

[@IkerUnzu]

I'm so happy you reacted to her theory!! Her theories are so good! She deserves it!!

[@artmayel9627]

I love that when Ash is not there everything goes wrong 😂

[@JustAHuman101]

With the chaos of Ash comes the peace of the land.

[@PerovNigma]

​​@@JustAHuman101 Ash pulls in the chaos like a conductor, and without them, it spreads to all corners.

[@JustAHuman101]

@@PerovNigma No. Ash IS the chaos.

[@TravisPlushProductions]

Something I’ve always felt is that Micheals speech at the end of sister location feels much more sinister than everyone took it. “I put her back together, just like you asked me to” “BUT something is wrong with me” It almost feels like Mike was in on getting scooped, like he had planned to die in order to put his sister back together and didn’t expect to live. But enraged that he’s essentially just a walking corpse now wants revenge on his father for not telling him the scooper would keep him alive (the blueprints in Fnaf 6 show it deliberately injects remnant into what it scoops) It’s a bit loose, but the idea that the third candy cadet story could be implying something else, and that line in the ultimate guide saying Micheal could’ve been assisting William certainly doesn’t hurt the theory.

[@TheMinecraftHype]

Ignoring all evidence and whatnot, and speaking from purely a narrative level: I agree. If FEELS right for Michael to be helping his father. A broken child who is partly reponsible for breaking his family... well, I'd imagine him clinging to his father (even if distantly). Aiding him. Then, *eventually* turning sides due to guilt, perhaps (or being in similar shoes as the dead-children after his the scooping accident). It's just far more compelling than 'Michael knew nothing, then found out and tried to fix things'. Being complicit is the way: agency makes more better stories - bystanders not so much.

[@GendoRokabundi]

@@TheMinecraftHype also, the Afton family poster has him as a ventriloquist dummy of his father. It points both to him looking just like his father (mentioned a lot on sister location, by mike himself and the Immortal and the Restless) but also being used by him. It’s possible he was only partially aware of what his father was doing. We know that: (a) Micheal was a security guard (b) Micheal looks like his father (c) William gained access to those buildings as a security guard What if … William was never hired as a security guard? Micheal got the job, and because he looks like his son, William used his son’s uniform and credentials to access the building to do what he needed to do. Therefore Mike is fired for William tampering with the animatronics. It’s also possible that Mike gets the jobs to clean up after his dad. He might believe he’s trying to clear his father’s good name, or get back at the company that tried to push his father out, or maybe even that his father has explained there is someway to ‘fix’ his brother that requires stealing animatronic parts. There’s many ways for William to use Micheal without Mike knowing his father is a serial killer.

[@TheMinecraftHype]

@@GendoRokabundi Interesting idea! I do wonder if Michael could feasibly pass off as William though... even if they look alike, the age gap would surely be notable? Granted, within the confines of the story, perhaps there can be some suspension of disbelief here. Perhaps their physical resemblance is merely for symbolism's sake. Michael would be HEIR to the company, after all - he would have to take up his father's role - replace his father: he would be William 2.0 in not only appearance, but position. Perhaps Michael was groomed for this role, which would make it hard for Michael to be totally ignorant of everything... he need not know his father is a serial killer, but I'd imagine he'd be aware of some... dubious... shenanigans going on. Regardless, I like your ideas surrounding Michael trying to 'clean up' after his father.

[@jordandrinkwater1345]

@@TheMinecraftHype It's like Zuko from The Last Airbender.

[@fiusionmaster3241]

Indeed

[@bananatassium7009]

I find the Candy Cadet section very interesting to think about, because the inclusion of Michael as a good-intentioned player with a negative outcome (thanks to a malicious third party) in more scenarios than we knew really resonates story-wise. Mike feels like he was introduced as a character that distinctly does villainous actions from the FNAF 4 minigames, and there is a weird black box maturation from that to protagonist, so it makes me wonder if William was almost puppeteering bad things to happen around him. Thematically, I can imagine Mike experiencing a very negative early life where tragedy befalls everyone that surrounds him and a lot of it feeling like his fault, but then he gradually realizes that William was the reason behind a lot of those events occurring. Would really build extra emphasis on his hatred for William that led to the *"I'm going to come find you."* voiceover (honestly one of my favorite parts of the series), I feel like as the main protagonist of the entire series he should have more of a personalized motivation than just "uh oh i found out about the bad stuff thats been happening."

[@KimMinerLitton]

Me: Thinking I know FNAF lore really well Also me listening to ID and MatPat deeply critique each others theories using several different examples throughout the franchise: I'm just happy to be here!

[@al_insan]

Yeah, at this point I'm just lost. Still, we've deep down in the lore, there's no going back now 😅

[@jordanbohannan4589]

17:40 Mat: “If this is your audition to join the team, we’ll see how you do” IDs: Begins by roasting Mat Mat: “I like this one”

[@kommandantgalileo]

Mat got absolutely murdered.

[@Randomthings394]

I think we could all agree that no matter if Matpat makes a mistake we all love his content

[@tumulterudition3228]

Charlie is the key one because it is not about the fusing of the keys. It’s about her trying to free/save five trapped children. Brining five keys together and failing is about to bring the spirits together and failing to help.

[@madamplatypus313]

That part of the video particularly irked me, it’s like he focused purely on the keys as objects, not what was actually going on in the story.

[@silverashley7337]

I think part of the charm of GTLive is the uncut, uncensored-Ness of it. It's like we just sit down with Matt to chill and participate in the days video lol

[@CrystalFier]

Are you saying that Gtlive is NESS??? 😜

[@poke-talia268]

It's good for a makeshift body double

[@SlavicFox]

NESS? FROM SUPER SMASH BROS???? AAAAAEEEEEEEHHHH

[@Majjiick]

Exactly, Matt is a great host.

[@cryofpaine]

Sister Location has the hardest time fitting in the timeline because it is explicitly tied to Afton's motives, and we don't know Afton's motives. That is the key piece of information that we need to solidify the timeline. Was it the death of his son? The death of his daughter? Something else we don't even know about? Is he just a sociopath from the start? The answer to that would change where certain events come in the timeline, most notably Sister Location.

[@takezokimura2571]

Is Ms. Afton dead or alive? Ballora seems to be inspired by Willian's wife due to her dialogue. So what if Afton was already experimenting with robots trying to bring his wife back to life?

[@literallylondonn]

@@takezokimura2571 not sure but i think its just to represent her after she left him

[@smilesperson]

53:20 She has a point. To summarize, Charlie has the key with them all to set them free, Henery is the good man in the context of Pizza sim to put them to rest after trusting William but not being careful, and Mike is the one who watched, had regret, trying to fix the mess himself too, I be it in a similar way to Henery. However if it were to be one person then I bet it be Henery deeming Pizza sim as a game with his focus and how each story really summarizes him the best. He let these things happen by not being carefu, having regret, and now he brings the things together to try and get them in one place to finally put them to rest.

[@RewandRequiem]

I could be completely wrong but what i think she means with the candy cadet stories linking to charlie, michael & henry is as follows. 1st Story: Charlie in trying to save everyone ends up failing to truly save anyone 2nd Story: Michael initially ignores a murder then later regrets it & tries to put them back together (the "murder" in this case may refer to his accidental killing of his brother) 3rd Story: Henry fails to save all who he cares about but manages to lay them all to rest in one place I would also like to say that while writing this I realised that the 5 things in each story may refer to different things: 1st Story: The 5 missing kids (charlie tries to save them but can only put them in robots) 2nd Story: The 5 members of the afton family (only 1 of the five kittens in the story die) 3rd Story: The 5 who "died" in the fire of fnaf6 (Molten Freddy, Springtrap, Scrap Baby, Lefty & Michael) I don't doubt that I could be proven wrong in this but this is just my personal theory that I came up with based on what she said

[@rllywishididntmakethisaccount]

dude lore and everything aside, matpat is such a smart person, like he packs so much knowledge about everything in his brain, and I can’t even pass freshman bio. past that, dude is jus literally a role model. Like he’s smart, he try’s to understand what others are saying, he knows what hes talking abt, hes kind, like hes just a light shining on others and it’s weird yet just… “wow” yk?

[@deretop7119]

What I believe the candy cadet stories are about is 3 seperate stories of essentially the same problem being solved by different people. The women with the keys is the puppet since she tries to help the children who Afton killed, but in doing so the spirits can't move on so she ends up helping none of them. The story of the young boy is about Michael who saw what his father had done and ignored only to end up helping them later. The story of the old man is Henry who tries to put all the animatronics in one "coffin". I believe that that the snake burgaler and fire all represent Afton but the stories are the different peoples solutions to those problems.

[@kamryndavis1668]

This!!!!!

[@aWhileTotodile]

This is really strong

[@DragonGamer64]

This logically makes the most sense, but the snake being killed is what tripped me up. Could be a reference to burning Springtrap in FNaF 3. However, I challenge that Mike and Henry could arguably swap stories.

[@zonda2220]

While Michael and Henry makes some amount of sense, the puppet part doesn't really. "The puppet had the chance to save but 1 kid & Save herself. Instead, she tried to save all of them, and failed, and chose to die with them." It just doesn't really add up given that it would mean that Charlie either died because she tried to save the original 5 kids, and then William killed her as revenge, or else then after her posessing the puppet, had some way to either save 1 kid either physically or spiritually, and then pass on, but chose to stay behind with them as ghosts which just seems like a bit of an odd rule on "bringing kids happyness". (Though maybe you could try to link it to the happiest day minigame and say that fails to bring the 5 of them to peace)

[@AlysidaMagica]

@@DragonGamer64 I don’t think the snake and fire actually represent William at all. The fire is used by the woman, aka Charlie aka the puppet, to try and fail to save the children. If the keys represent the lives of the five kids, the fire represents the animatronics that the puppet put them in. Then in the snake story, the kid aka Michael cuts open the snake to remove the five kittens trapped inside. I believe this story maps to the plot of Sister Location, in which Michael enters or “cuts open” the Circus Baby Rental facility, and five animatronics, fused into one (Ennard) cram into one shoebox (Michael’s scooped body) I don’t know if the burglar represents William either, though it’s possible. Because in that story, Henry puts five entities (Molten Freddy, Scrap Baby, Springtrap, Lefty, and Michael) into one coffin (the building). Spring trap, aka William, is one of the five orphans in this story. Then again, if Mike can pull double duty as a kid and a shoebox in the snake story, William can pull double duty as an orphan and a burglar in this one. Getting himself Springtrapped *was* his own fault, after all

[@berniebare371]

An interesting thing to note about the “Which FNaF 3 ending is canon?” question- whenever Dawko invited Scott onto the FNaF Show for the interview, Scott chose not to answer that exact same question, as he said the answer was “complex”. So I do think that the Bad Ending, to some extent, is canon.

[@hanakoisbestgirl4752]

Both and 3 causes a timeline split

[@starchild199x]

​@@hanakoisbestgirl4752 Not on some OoT level st... pls god no 🙃 No OoT "Adult" vs "Child" vs "Downfall" timeline, or Omega Ruby/Alpha Sapphire "Mega Evolution" timeline where the ultimate weapon was/wasn't created

[@hanakoisbestgirl4752]

@@starchild199x happiest day timeline and the other one, saddest day? timeline?

[@E-man.]

How much do you know about FNAF? Yes

[@gracebusch7832]

😂😂

[@ToshinoriV2]

The part where ID was comparing the three characters in the candy cadet stories to Charlie, Michael, and Henry makes sense to me. Because what all three of those characters have in common is that they are *AGAINST* William Afton by trying to stop him and clean up his mess.

[@reset2000]

I've been thinking it for a long time now, but I'm pretty sure it's needed now: Scott should come out and clarify some of the lore for earlier FNAF (1-6). If he, along with Steel Wool, plan to move the franchise along basing it on the lore of previous games, he should just go and tell us what he planned earlier in the timeline. As MatPat said multiple times, we don't have the baseline. Solving later games would still prove difficult I presume, but it certainly would be nice to have a strong, unshakeable baseline to refer to, with no confusion involved and no need to rewrite the WHOLE timeline again. One thing is, I don't know ho feasible it is from licensing/economic standpoint now that other parties are involved and if it would make Scott just lose money if the people are unhappy about the conclusion and decide to abandon the series. After so many years, I think we theorised enough about FNAF to deserve at least some answers. Moreso, if there were any rewrites (and they certainly were), it would be very interesting to hear about it from the developer's standpoint.

[@thefallen2220]

Crazy how Matpat stills talks about the MCI 💀

[@noonyx33]

I def agree, but I think hes worry about the backlash just like with dream theory

[@OzoneYT]

LETS GO IDS FANTASY I'm so glad she's getting the recognition she deserves :)

[@Sapphire864]

I was jumping when I seen this video in my notifications ngl

[@AceFaz]

Actually, during Dawko's Interview with Scott, Scott actually didn't want to answer the question of which Fnaf 3 ending happened, saying it would just cause distress among the fan base. So that point is still Very much out in the open (Unless he has clarified since then). He said he thought about it for a long time, put a lot of thought into it, but doesn't want to answer the question.

[@cluver99]

YEEEES. Thats it! I'm always talking about thaaat. The Bad Ending is the canon for that game at this point. Obviously we can pick up things from the Good Ending minigames like the Golden Freddy indentity as the crying child (or cassidy or whatever you want to believe) but the real canon ening is the one where the spirits remaing in their suits

[@laineywillis289]

I feel like the spirits being in two places bit at the end makes perfect sense, the metal is like a tether that holds them here and is a totem of their energy but they aren’t exclusively bound to it

[@Specsboy1999]

I am thinking the same thing due to the clarification of remnant and agony, the spirits being from the remnant get to pass on (if the good ending of fnaf 3 is the canon route) while the agony remains within the funtime animatronics which helps explain their behaviour a bit and why the blob is active at the end of SB.

[@IDsFantasy]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO (Haven't finished the video, mostly reacting just to making it into a GTLive XD)

[@titan7789]

Congrats.

[@Pablo_50]

Great vids

[@marshmallofluff]

@@slyceth bro what..??

[@AmyMcDonaldd]

@@slyceth Huh?!??

[@celestesherlyn]

@@slyceth 🤏🏻

[@whyisreal]

Matpat sees a 17-minute video. Matpat: OK I think we could made this a movie

[@Sapphire864]

I think that sums it up

[@HoodieHorizon]

Matt is slowly acquiring fnaf theroists, soon he will have a monopoly on all fnaf theories

[@SusannahMurphine98]

He is the true Candy Cadet protagonist, melding five (or more) FNaF theorists together into one channel!

[@Yumi_Jay]

He is going to start a superhero team of Theorists.

[@SusannahMurphine98]

@@Yumi_Jay “I’m here to talk to you about the Faz-nitiative.”

[@ImBirdBrained]

Not that it's a big or important thing, but I love how you guys take and work with the constructive criticism you guys get, as well as the transparency of your video creation. Very mature, and organized, and it makes for a far better community imo. P.S. laughing about getting called out and immediately responding, chefs kiss.

[@manloloyojosh1458]

One day, the entire community of FNAF will make one 24 HOUR collab live stream where they debate, argue, agree, and converse the TRUE Fnaf timeline with Scott who is wondering "What have I done..."

[@BBC-dq3ki]

I think it makes sense for Charlie to be the woman in the candy cadet story. The fusing of the keys being equal to Charlie, as the puppet, trying to save all of the others’ souls, and failing because part of them had already been taken for the fun times. I honestly think it’s the strongest of the three different proposed people for each story interpretation.

[@IDsFantasy]

Something like that :D

[@tobiletsplay]

I agree

[@mixttime]

The desperation to save people fits well with Charlie, as we've characterized her as the protector. But looking over the stories again I wonder if it might be Mike. The melting keys in a furnace reminds me of the melting down remnant. So I wonder if he was the one to mix them together; trying to save them all at once but instead making it much harder to save any of them. It's a stretch, but it would feed into the whole thing Matt was talking about with Mike maybe messing with remnant.

[@donkeydanny2114]

Imo this is a reach

[@Kubina.]

This story implies that Charlie could have saved a single child. How?

[@wolfy.makes.art._]

The shots have been fired but of course MatPat takes it well

[@moonlightblade11]

Something about listening to 2 individuals talking blatante nonesense like lighting in such a carefree and relaxed way is just so entertaining and relaxing at the same time.

[@hathorthecow7146]

MatPat getting called out is always a good way to start the notlive

[@Cysubtor_8vb]

As for the claw hand paradox, it's possible that William designed those animatronics originally just to abduct kids before even learning of remnant and Elizabeth's death shifted his focus. Circus Baby's pizzeria never opened, so we technically don't know how much time passed between those animatronics being built and when they were repurposed for the rental service once Freddy closed. Specifically being creations of Afton away from Henry, they can still be old yet appear more technologically advanced.

[@nationalpv]

It did open. Only for one day. It gets closed on its opening day.

[@LumosVeil]

There’s no motive for why William would design the animatronics to abduct kids before one of his kids dies though. And if he just started killing kids for no reason, it makes him a character that has no depth..

[@Wendeta-hq2cp]

Personally I think the Funtimes were originally made without the child snatching claw (on opening of the pizzeria), but by the time William rents them out he found remnant and modified them.

[@MrFell.]

​@@Wendeta-hq2cp The pizzeria in question is Circus Baby's Pizza World? If so, then it's inaccurate because Baby kills Elizabeth on the first and only day the restaurant was open

[@aziraphalethesapphic]

I'm so glad people are paying ID's Fantasy the recognition she deserves, her commentary and analysis is so fun and I'm super excited to see her expand and come up in this space more!!!

[@dcross0616]

I think each of the Candy Cadet stories can represent a different character. The old man who adopts the children and stitches their bodies together, only to be greeted by a knock at the door is Michael, who inadvertently ties all the Funtime Animatronics together to make Ennard, with the knock at the door representing his scooping (a knock at heaven’s door, if you will). The young woman melting the keys is Charlie. Her attempts to free the souls in Happiest Day are misguided, with the freed souls only being further tormented despite her best attempts to help. And finally, the young boy with the kittens is William. One by one, the thing he brought into his home (the idea of Freddy Fazbear’s) picks off his kittens (his children) one by one, until he snaps and takes his revenge, which could be killing Charlie.

[@KeeganPlays]

Small problem: In the Kitten story (at least by what is given in the video), only one cat dies. "The snake went into the shoebox, chose a kitten at random, and ate it. After five nights had gone by, the boy was full of regrets, and cut the snake open. He pieced the remains together and put the kitten back in the shoebox." I dunno, maybe I'm misreading it, but all I can read it as is "One cat gets eaten, five nights go by, and then the snake is killed and the cat is put back together.

[@dcross0616]

@@KeeganPlays that’s a good point, it’s a bit vague but I could see it going either way. I interpreted it as: there’s five baby kittens, five nights, and one hungry snake. I think one gets eaten every night? But that’s a great point, I hadn’t considered that. Perhaps that means Michael is the boy with the kittens - he accidentally gets one boy killed and lives with the guilt for five nights.

[@KeeganPlays]

@@dcross0616 Hmm... You're interpretation also makes quite a bit of sense... If I'm gonna be honest, I don't think I can phrase anything I think coherently into the story. Your interpretation on how what I heard would fit in sounds pretty cool, but I have no method of confirming its relevance to the story myself. My brain is tiny, and I can't fit all the crazy FNAF lore bits into it at once DX Still, everything you've said sounds pretty logical, so I guess I'll just see it as that until someone can provide some better counterargument than my weak one XD

[@CatieBubbles]

I do agree with ID's Fantasy that the Candy Cadet's stories are referring to three separate things. In the woman's case, I think it is saying that the puppet COULD have saved a least one child, but by not focusing on one at a time and instead tackling all of them at once ultimately lead to none of them being saved. As for the boy, only one of the kittens were killed and it was five days later that it was stitched back together. Maybe it's implying that Michael starts his part in the story five years after he accidentally gets his brother killed. And as for the man.. it seems to imply that it IS Henry. But perhaps it is alluding to the ending of Pizzeria Sim, maybe as a way to warn Michael of his ultimate plan. (That last part is a bit of a stretch though haha) In my eyes it wouldn't make sense to have Candy Cadet only talk about ONE thing, just iterated differently. It seems to point out parallels between different aspects of the overall FNAF story. Also the mini-games don't happen at the same time as the main part of it's respective game. And remnant didn't become a thing until years after. And honestly it seems a bit unreasonable to expect the early games to perfectly fit into the overarching story. Most of the games were made by Scott alone and no matter how diligent he tried to be, he is only human and there are bound to be some slip ups here and there. He tries to be subtle about retcons but that actually makes figuring out the lore even harder. One thing I learned from consuming media is that the authors/creators mess up too. (Prime example: Akira Toriyama. All of the DB[Z/S] series is a MESS.)

[@YourGodChara]

thank you for pointing out that it was just one kitten... I'm so frustrated cuz it seems like he is in the understanding that all five were stitched together... which is not the story.

[@PoisonedPallete]

having the fandom working together is a really cool thing to see and watch progressively happen!

[@seanmontgomery3997]

After seeing both opinions of you and ID's Fantasy, wouldn't it make sense that the candy cadet stories be a look at the same event from three perspectives? _One who found out early but didn't act until it was too late, then tried to fix it (kitten story) _One whom had the ability to save one, but only one, hesitated/ tried to save all but backfired (key story) _An individual that made a safe space that failed its core principal, allowing a thief in that killed all five (Burglar story) ...Now that I've summarized them in order it kinda sounds like it's talking about Henry with hindsight...

[@IDsFantasy]

What I find interesting is that in the key story, the keys are combined, not the kids, in the kitten story, only one kitten is ever mentioned dying, and in the orphan story it is actually the orphans killed and brought together, which is part of why I make a distinction between the events

[@calicorobo3594]

Based on your last video in the timeline, the woman in the Candy Cadet stories best fits Mrs. Afton, with her, and the family being the keys. I always found it odd how the woman wanted to first melt the keys together instead of just unlocking the doors, or trying, to save as many kids as possible. Instead of trying to make sure as many kids escape the wrath of William (as represented by the fire) she focuses on bringing the family together, resulting in the loss of the children. I do think ID is right about the other two, that makes some semblance of sense.

[@Wwhdduendjdhhfmwosdn]

This is one of my favorite franchises to theorize about, mainly because I am 99.9% convinced that Mr. cawthon just made everything the frick up as he went.

[@soomi5667]

He technically did lol. He basically says this in Dawko's interview.

[@testerwulf3357]

Yea for most of the games it was just this but within newer ones it kinda shows he has more of an idea tbh. If he could rewrite FNAF to a set story-line I'm sure some of the restaurants (games) would be completely gone to clean up the story to something more streamline

[@purplecat6578]

@@testerwulf3357 Aka, the movie

[@quirkyviper]

I hope they get back to this soon! I'm relieved to know that even MatPat has to pause, visualize and simplify to keep things straight bc I do that too, though, I was itching for him to get to the end of her conclusions and react to that as a whole. It's probably really hard to do that with so many contested pieces of lore though.

[@joel9104]

I love how most this hangs on "how are the robots active if they were disassembled" when I think it's very easy to assume that the puppet could have put them back together

[@Sneh_45]

I really love the idea of maybe hire @ID's Fantasy . Since i've been watching her for a long time now, and i enjoy her content, just like your's. Seeing her on the team, would be so cool.🥰

[@RedN_Ready]

Congrats to ID for getting this kind of recognition!

[@anu.3663]

shoutout to ID’s fantasy for being an absolutely amazing channel by the way, they absolutely deserve the promo!!! so excited for this gtlive

[@anu.3663]

like her videos are so good i hope she sees this 😭 genuinely deserves the promo love her

[@timberwolfo5]

I am really happy you are watching this video. From what I’ve watched from ID’s Fantasy, they are really well spoken and to the point and have well made videos. They deserve the attention.

[@KeeganPlays]

I love that, when going over the Candy Cadet stories, the one that stands out as different to Mat is the one with the five keys getting melted together into one (the one that supports the Molten MCI theory), and not the Kitten one where only one thing dies XD

[@Hawker_Plays]

Hi mat, please continue putting so much effort and so much support in your videos ❤️

[@CJ5C]

meat snake

[@Hawker_Plays]

@Don't Read My Profile Photo please shut up, we all know the end is a rickroll

[@DrDapperTF2]

Finally, ID getting the recognition she deserves

[@annabelle2523]

The other through line in the candy cadet stories that seem to be often overlooked, is each story is about someone who could save some of the innocents, but in trying to save all five, leads them to their deaths. The key story says the woman could save one child, the kitten story says the snake may have been satisfied if the boy fed it one kitten, and the orphan story says the man feared a burglar breaking into the house of one of the children.

[@Stoneeeeemo]

the beginning part of ID calling you out was hella funny, but then with all the context of you wanting to call her to the team and all it got so much better

[@Xavi_Shado]

Please invite her to the TalkBack! She's been theorizing right here next to you for so long and doesn't get enough attention in her longform content!

[@justsomeone2832]

We demand ID fantasy and mat work together to crack this once and for all until the movie comes out

[@alexfasci2632]

its so clear the love everyone on the gt team has for the fandoms its a part of, and the way they raise up other members of the community and are invested in their success. its really fun to watch, and equally as heartwarming. getting to see all these different crossovers and getting different perspectives is my favorite thing. keep up the good work

[@baconthedude]

With Charlie being the woman, I agree. It's Charlie choosing to risk something, by putting the souls into the animatronics, leading them to being trapped forever. For the story it was also an all of nothing gamble leading to the kids being trapped forever.

[@eclipsica6107]

I love the fact you're reacting to other fnaf theorists!! ID's Fantasy is one of my favourites! I definitely recommend you check out RyeToast's theories too, they have some really interesting ideas I'm sure you'll like, plus they've done videos on your theory too!

[@emmajk7433]

Rye bread is such a good, kind and clever FNAF theorists who has the most lovely cats as well!

[@balls_gaming]

and also ooftroop. so underated

[@Juju2927]

I'd like to see him react to RyeToast's "Games only timeline" until FNAF 6 series. I found it fascinating how the narrative is so different if you were to ignore the books as information from the lore.

[@shopnil4]

I'm so glad that you're watching ID's videos! I hope you can have her on a stream!

[@maddakinz]

im so happy abt this timeline and im so happy all of mat’s hard work payed off

[@jamietrefz]

Matt I think you've brought up some really great points that have really changed my perspective of the timeline. The link to silver eyes and William Afton going back to the locations is actually such a great link however it felt like you made it sound like a very close cat and mouse chase where it's really decades long. Keep doing what your doing man!

[@tansya603]

Throughout this whole timeline... timeline... Smaller theorists have been getting bigger and bigger and i love it. PLEASE do more reactions to smaller theorists talking about your timeline, its a great collaboration and raises so many new ideas!

[@ShuraEssays]

The retcon bullet, as you put it, is almost certainly just that the puppet became a girl instead of a boy. There's the save *him* minigame in Fnaf 2, and we know Charlie is a girl. Pretty seamless and doesn't change anything. Fits every bullet point while still being a retcon. But also, Id's Fantasy wasn't saying it was used here, she was saying this would not have been retconned, to show that you can't just say, "well, Scott didn't think of the funtimes yet, so of course the souls weren't in an underground bunker." That move becomes invalid if the retcon bullet isn't applicable.

[@IDsFantasy]

Exactly :D

[@Rangerforyou]

@@IDsFantasy lol hey love your video

[@Mardikuz]

nope, the minigame is called save them not save him

[@MorbidFayde]

@@Mardikuz I think they're referring to the voice that says letters over the top. one was definitely save him, that was the give cake minigame

[@adashofjaden6061]

I know Matpat has done a lot of analog horror for fnaf but there is one that he has not covered that I think is really good and that is the j-gems five nights at freddy's interview series it is such a good twist on the series and is really unique I feel like she needs more attention and would be really entertaining for mat

[@atomicreactor6033]

I can't wait to see where the story is gonna go. J-Gems made an amazing FNAF AU. Nightmare Bonnie is my favorite

[@teabunny2575]

I LOVE the j-gems au. I agree, he should cover that, or at least react to it.

[@Max_The_Flower]

I really liked how you included Mrs Afton! You also made Robot Gregory make a whole lot more sense

[@JoelTheParrot]

MatPat opening his own video up with a giant burn on him is so good

[@jerms99]

i’m so proud of ID 😭😭 let’s go i’m happy matt saw this

[@DragonFaerie]

An almost seventeen minute video, barely 6 minutes in, and it's been an hour. Matpat never ceases to amaze XD

[@Raivon]

14 seconds in and Matpat's already ashes on the ground. Magnificent.

[@RuteCarrapato]

Regarding the conversation about the syringe in The Last of Us, I had the same question and asked my sister-in-law, who is a nurse, and she said that for whom didn't know anything, it was a really good try and would probably work. The best thing to do was to inject the penicillin into a vein to go through the bloodstream to heal all the tissue around the infection. The syringe was probably an adult dose (standart dose), or more likely, it was a smaller dose (thus no overdose). So the series appears to be accurate 😄

[@mackenzieoconnor3619]

Also I think I remember seeing Dr. Mike do a video on the last of us medical scenes recently and the penicillin thing was mentioned

[@thepigvillage]

Also spirits fading doesn't always mean they passed on It just means they left wherever they were Happiest Day most likely only releases the Bite Victim and the rest of them just leave the recreation of CC's memories used to help release him to go back to the Funtimes where they're currently trapped and Cassidy would have helped set up the party through FNaF World and then not actually attended the party since he wasn't needed since he's likely the main controller of Molten Freddy anyway

[@Emerald_Spartan]

it kinda feels like MatPat is training or etc the next line of theorists, so whenever he retires there will be people to carry on the theories lol, all of the theories from these 4 channels have felt well made and have been easy to understand why one would think that, and are very interesting

[@vee6761]

I love that Matt responds to criticism at all. I think that all theorists for this franchise are working on the timeline together at this point, so it is very important to remain open about our findings and not crown any one story victor until all of the pieces fit (which I think they never will but that's a different story).