Guardians Of The Galaxy 3 - Flawed But Great

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-Guardians 3 is pretty good-
Guardians Of The Galaxy Vol 3 is the first MCU project to not suck in quite some time. Join me for a breakdown of the film with quite a bit of praise mixed in with some criticism.
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0:00 - It’s no MCU Savior
3:37 - Plot Breakdown
4:36 - The Positives
8:53 - The negatives
12:27 - World-Ending Threats
13:36 - Adam Warlock
14:35 - Soundtrack overload
15:01 - The flashbacks… A pro and con
20:08 - Box Office Slippage
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[@alexisfernandez9163]

If you look closely the true "best friends" in this movie are actually Nebula and Rocket. She's the only one who physically reacts (stifling a sob) when she hears rocket's voice. And the first person Rocket asks for when he wakes up is Nebula. And that's because they were the last 2 guardians after the snap and spent more time together than anyone else.

[@Izm-Iznt]

They've also both been taken apart and put back together over and over again.. like.. some little monster

[@jwroot]

Brilliant.

[@pepperpeterpiperpickled9805]

Peter goes back to his grandpa, not his uncle. I get what youre saying about the planet being destroyed but that was done more to highlight how evil the villain was rather than have the characters cry about people they dont know being killed (like a scene of Peter and Drax punching walls because the bat people who helped them are now dead would feel out of place).

[@Alteori]

🤣 the thumbnail. Now knowing that James Gunn didn't even want Warlock in there, it makes so much sense why he was seen as, not only an afterthought, but also somewhat of a jester in the movie. Maybe that was Gunn's way of expressing how he felt about being coerced to use him.

[@abstract9621]

I disagree with you saying if you remove the flashbacks then the movie isn’t good, you can technically say that about any movie, I mean if you remove parts of any movie then the movie would be good as a whole.

[@sillygoober553]

I’m a harsh critic and even I think this film was Excellent 5/5 Stars, very emotional, the music hit the right chords, a villain you can hate, satisfying conclusion and a ending that makes you want more

[@TheRibottoStudios]

Can we just talk about how Rocket's FIRST word was "hurts" god I never wanted to hug a character more other than Anakin Skywalker cause he also just needed SO many hugs lol

[@tannerchaffin9235]

As a harsh critic, I have a hard time believing that you'd give the movie a perfect score. I agree that the best moments are flashbacks and some instances of the team together, but the rest of the movie just isn't very good. I could understand you saying 4/5 or 8/10 if all of the jokes and everything worked for you, but remove those flashbacks and I feel like you have a 2/5 movie, maybe 3/5 at most.

[@TheRibottoStudios]

@@tannerchaffin9235 hey listen even Siskel and Ebert liked movies from time to time and THEY were harsh. Hell sometimes they even AGREED on opinions 😆

[@nalon7414]

​@@tannerchaffin9235 yeah but it doesn't matter if the flashbacks weren't in the movie because they were and were a central part of the movie and understanding rocket ur basically saying that if a central and main part of the movie was removed it woud be worse... no shit it woud be worse but thats the reason its there to give more development to rocket

[@chacal1100]

​@@tannerchaffin9235"yeah, if we would remove a integral part of the movie, the movie will be worse"

[@TheRibottoStudios]

The High Evolutionary is what Kang should've been. He's truly horrifying, and sets the stakes really well, because there's personal stakes with this villain. Sure he got beat just like Kang did, but it wasn't in some BS way from some C tier hero-this was Rocket's way of closing that chapter of his life, of FINALLY putting things to rest. In not killing the HE (high evolutionary) Rocket is proving once again how much he's grown as a person, and how much BETTER he is as a person. And I love how this movie makes you look back at other scenes in the previous installments, and this movie actually does what a sequel should and ENHANCE those previous installments, not make you go question things about them. Scenes like Rocket saying "He didn't chase them away....even though he was mean, even though he stole batteries he didn't need" and Quill saying in reply "Well of course not" hits so much harder. And another thing I like about this is movie is that it just tells its story, and that's something the GOTG movies have always done well-they feel isolated yet they can be part of the whole universe if they need to be. And that's what the MCU needs right now. Isolated stories that could become part of something later-it's why Shang-Chi is one of my favorite MCU phase 4 movies, and it's why No Way Home worked so well. When you just take the time to explore these characters, and not the setting the story works.

[@ollieVeroli]

The High Evolutionary out-Kanged Kang.

[@jar4lifeo-o69]

Deadass he did! He was even defeated with a genuine effort rather that by fuckin ants.

[@chasehedges6775]

Awesome villain and performance

[@Ki_Adi_Mundi]

I honestly think Gunn put all those fake-out deaths in this one as a middle finger to Disney for them overusing it so much. Because I cannot for the life of me remember a single time he's used that before.

[@chacal1100]

Despite the fact that this movie was made by Disnay subsidiary, it is in many ways, one big middle figer pointed in them, so probably you are correct.

[@jayw3512]

Oh for sure. I’ve watched it twice. GOG3 is 110% a middle finger from Gunn to Marvel. Good stuff.

[@davidmartinez52420]

I am not ashamed to admit that the flashback scenes with Rocket either made me wanna cry or did make me cry

[@bwhere45]

Yeah, because it's cheap. Sarah McLachlan commercials played the same tired bullshit. Showing animals in distress (in any way) immediately garners sympathy. All that means is you're a human who isn't a sadist, but that doesn't make the movie good. Take out the Rocket flashbacks and the movies loses damn near everything worthwhile.

[@davidmartinez52420]

@@bwhere45 That's your opinion. I still thought the movie was ok without the flashbacks.

[@bwhere45]

@@davidmartinez52420 uh no, the first half of my reply is a simple fact, not an opinion. But hey, keep on seal clapping for cheap emotions and see what that gets you for your entertainment.

[@davidmartinez52420]

@@bwhere45 Funny that my reply was speaking to the second half of your comment but you chose to act as if I was referring to the first half. Have a good day.

[@bwhere45]

@@davidmartinez52420 I'm going to explain simple conversation skills to you. When you say "that's your opinion" in response to what I said, it's fair to assume you meant it all, and not the specific parts you thought about but didn't write. You have a day too, mouth breather.

[@poloralphlauren7712]

I have to disagree with you on this one. This movie was made brilliantly.

[@ryanbrachamonte6348]

Will it save the MCU? No. Was it a satisfying conclusion to the MCU’s best trilogy? Absolutely!

[@TrippieFox]

Idk 2 wasn't even that good

[@user-xy3ee8bw6j]

@@TrippieFox it was great imo but I respect your opinion

[@niveinratnayake668]

Yes. It will save it

[@DeciDeci_]

One observation I made about your gripe with Rocket coming back to life is well, Lyla wouldn't know that Rocket is a Raccoon. If my memory suits me right she said something along the lines of "It isn't your time yet silly Raccoon." Who constantly calls Rocket a Raccoon? Peter Quill. That was Peter Quill saying those things but rocket imagines it was Lyla. This fake reality his dying mind put him into is shattered by the fact that Lyla wouldn't even know that Rocket is a raccoon, thus he comes back through his best friend helping him come back.

[@TheMovieCynic]

Good observation and criticism

[@DeciDeci_]

@@TheMovieCynic Keep making your stuff man, I love to watch it!

[@RainbowMan9407]

Guardians 3 made me decide to quit the MCU. Not because I disliked the movie. But because I realized it was the last chance I would have to get anything close to a satisfying ending. Ever since Spider-Man Homecoming, I made it a goal to watch every MCU movie in theaters. But after two straight years of movies that I didn't want to rewatch and feel almost nothing about looking back, I just decided to end on a high note. Every character I cared about in the MCU is either dead, ruined, or has their story completed. I'm coming back for Deadpool 3 (because I trust the director, I trust Ryan Reynolds, and I want to see the MCU get laughed at), but after that, I don't care enough about anything going on to watch any more.

[@John.0079]

I think your mistaking on the "best friend" aspect. Peter is devastated by the loss of Gamora, and losing Rocket would break him. Nothing really to do with best friends. Just a beloved team member.

[@justsomeguywholovesberserk6375]

To be honest this movie is good, because it's James Gunn, man is a comic book nerd who really has passion in making over the top and comedic thrill rides, if this had been any other director it would have flopped insanely hard.

[@erikbihari3625]

Like the russo brothers?

[@Struggler1989]

Heed my words, Struggler. Soon a rain of blood, the likes of which you cannot imagine, shall fall down upon you. It will be a storm of death. But take heed, Struggler. Struggle, endure, contend. For that alone is the sword of one who defies death. Do not forget these words.

[@southernmercy5962]

Rocket crying as Lylla died was heartbreaking.

[@tetshua_2127]

I don't think Guardians 3 was trying to save Marvel. James Gunn was simply doing his own thing

[@Rahul-ll1en]

I would rate it definitely higher than 'okay', It's just better. The relationship between Star Lord and Rocket isn't anything like Steve and Bucky. We just have to understand that they care very deeply about each other even tho they don't seem to. Rocket saved Peter after he got snapped, Peter saved rocket back in this installment. They both value family that they had after being rogues and criminals. They had to include orgo stuff cuz it's Gunn and his main style is humour. Hell, MCU survives on humour. I do agree that movie geeks such as you don't enjoy that kinda humour much, but they had to include it because everyone isn't a Movie Cynic. People complain about film being short if they cut scenes, people again complain because those extra scenes do not add much to the story, not everything has to. GGs

[@ReturntoReason]

The Drinker, though great, is wrong to analyze the movie as only being good based on 10 minutes of screen time, and thus bad because so much hinges on so little. He knows better. Heath Ledger only appears on screen for 33 total minutes of The Dark Knight, and probably spends less than half of that taking. Kevin Spacy doesn't even make an appearance until the very end of Se7en. John McClane and Hans Gruber definitely have less than 10 minutes of walkie-talkie banter in Die Hard. Movies unevenly distribute the bulk of whatever that special something is all the time. That's totally fine. I get choked up at the end of Warrior almost every time I watch it, and that's like three total minutes that totally sticks the landing of the entire film. More often than not, movies are remembered explicitly for that one memorable scene, speech, fight, chase, etc. I mean, would anyone even *want* five, ten, fifteen minutes more of the High Evolutionary abusing animals? Of course not. That movie would be weird as fuck, as there's absolutely such thing as too much of a good thing. TL;DR it's OK for the bulk of your approval of a thing to hinge on one or two very important details, as my dipshit friend from college who accidentally went home with a tranny can undoubtedly attest. (True story. Poor bastard.)

[@TheAuthorStudios]

I think this movie shines in it being not ashamed of it's own existance Like, there's real emotional scenes that are real tearjerkers and they're built arround a fucking talking racoon. And they FUCKING WORK, because the movie was sicnere about it and wasn't afraid of looking ridiculous or too 'comic booky' Same for the scenary, the one-liners, the extremelly unhinged villain, et cetear For all it's joking arround and need to make evey character into comic relief, gunn still takes the movie itself and it's character serious enough to not go 'heh, this is so silly and dumb it looks striaght out of a comic book' all the time on his comic book movie It's not ashaed of being what it wants to be, and that's something marvel hasn't been since a long time

[@chasehedges6775]

It’s not ashamed of what it wants to be. Nailed it

[@chasehedges6775]

This comment is sooo true.

[@cowetascore8476]

Small correction: Quill goes back with his grandfather, who is the only family member he has left.

[@codyssmith73]

Just want to correct you: Young Rocket in most flashback scenes wasn’t voiced by Cooper, but rather Sean Gunn. Kinda fitting given he also does his motion capture on top of killing it as Kraglin.

[@optimascrime5235]

I'm pretty sure Nebula acknowledged that the high evolutionary destroyed planet when they got onto his ship...Wasn't a massive reaction but I'm pretty sure they were busy is trying to free the kids that were captured and still worrying about rocket but I guess another line or reaction would have added to it

[@alexfriedman918]

At least, they were willing to call someone committing atrocities in the name of engineering a “perfect society” a villain! The irony must have gone over Disney executives’ heads!

[@declanhugors]

I mean I don't think anybody expected Guardians of the Galaxy 3 to save the MCU because of how garbage all the other movies have been, but that doesn't mean this by itself is a bad movie. It's a really heartfelt and heartboeaking story, and it actually has the balls to end the trilogy without setting up 20 different things nobody cares about. There was no political banter, no bad CGI, no cringey dialogue. It was a movie that the director actually cared about and wanted to do the best sendoff he could possibly do. This will probably be the last great movie Marvel ever releases, but it's still a great movie nonetheless

[@jayblak735]

Okay?? Not just Okay, it's fantastic.

[@zacharyjackson1829]

man commented before watching the video its fantastic compared to the phase 4 shit we have been getting that's for sure, but in general? eh

[@kaasgepakt]

Facts

[@kaasgepakt]

​@@zacharyjackson1829That's an opinion

[@zacharyjackson1829]

@@kaasgepakt that's an opinion

[@Penttipistooli]

They could've fleshed out peter and rocket's friendsip with an elevator-scene where they reminisce about the time when they fell into a nest of gundarks.

[@ggmasterguiltygear6315]

My gripes: Rocket let the main villian: a mass murderer live twice(the guardians literally just left him there). Quill never wore his helmet despite the fact it helps him breathe in space.and would protect his head potentially getting blown off in that one-shot scene.

[@gogetavsvegito]

6:40 yes!! Spoiler alert!!! The ending with Gamora is what stuck with me. This wasn’t the same Gamora who was kind and seemed to yearn for something more. this Gamora was happy where she was. And the ending with the ravagers being so happy to have her back is what touched me the most. The audience was led to believe she was alone and needed love but the ravagers were her family she wasn’t lacking anything.

[@michaelone9475]

It’s probably the last great MCU movie. It’s amazing. Not just “good”

[@MegaSean45]

Exactly what I was thinkin'. After I finished watching and enjoyed this movie, I was like, "Best quit the MCU on a high note."

[@No-vb2ww]

@@MegaSean45 fr

[@allbthatmom2153]

Can yall explain how this movie Is amazing i found it very cringe compared to 1 and 2

[@No-vb2ww]

@@allbthatmom2153 obv a troll but if your serious then i would like for you to elaborate pls?

[@allbthatmom2153]

@@No-vb2ww im not trolling I seriously was cringing throughout the movie so i wanted to get ppls opinion on why they thought it was good

[@GRasputin91]

I find it rather unfitting and bizarre that Peter just decides to walk away at the end. Sure she's not the Gamora he knew, but if he just gives her space and stop trying to make her be someone she isn't (yet), there might be chemistry after all. And what's he going back to earth for, just to see his grandpa, whom he doesn't even know is still alive? And then what? Work as a janitor at Dairy Queen? I feel like they could've continued being a team, and they could easily make more content with these guys (provided it's James Gunn, and not some man-hating pos like the one who directed She Sulk)

[@user-cx5hh2xt8z]

He spends the entirety of the movie trying to convince her that she needs him AND the Guardians to be complete before realizing that she's already found a family and a different path with the Ravangers. He doesn't decide to just walk away, he's giving her the space you're asking for. And yes, he's going back to see the last living person in his family...which is the whole theme of the film.

[@rynne1104]

@@user-cx5hh2xt8z agreed, and i find it funny how the post cred scene w the way the gramps tried to shut him up wen he wanted to gossip, myb he will realise tht the guardians are more of family to him than his blood relative. (which is another recurring theme how hes father is a madman and his found family is certainly btr XD) they do say gotg will return and im hoping myb peter will make an appearance or two.

[@FoNgThOnG]

I personally enjoyed The High Evolutionary a shit ton more than I did Kang.

[@0Sutekinaryuu0]

3:55 - “Adam comes careening out of no where” You mean “careening into knowhere” right? x3

[@inazuma3gou]

I thought MoM will be my last MCU movie, but I made an exception for GoTG3. I am so glad I watched. I agree mostly with your review here. Orgoscope was completely useless. I also found interesting how abusive the guardians were towards the people of Counter-Planet. Stealing car. Drax knocking one guy off a motorbike and stealing it. It's in Drax's character and I guess it doesn't matter because the planet was going to explode anyways **rolling eyes**

[@ramonserna8089]

I loved this movie. Great sendoff for beloved characters and the best MCU movie in 10 years. Since Gunn will leave marvel has most of the beloved actors did more than likely there wont be a good movie in the future.

[@travisgowen5044]

I loved this movie! That being said, I have zero confidence the rest of the MCU can emulate its success, storytelling, and ability to make the audience care about the characters.

[@lopeshick9607]

It was a nice conclusion to these characters, but most importantly it had heart and didn’t feel written by a robot writer committee. Does it revitalize the MCU? Hell no, but the real question is: Do I really care at this point? Phase 4 made me not care at all for the overarching narrative they’re trying to get at. I’ll gladly take a good self-contained movie about characters I like and ignore whether it ties to the other garbage they put out recently.

[@FilmnerdTV]

Although I wouldn't call it as Marvels savior, it finally was again a superhero movie where I really cared about the characters and what would happen to them, and it was a proper send-off for this team, eventhough no one died.

[@darkwarrior6102]

I'd rather make the High Evolutionary as the big baddie than Kang anyway. This guy can act. And this movie gives me hope that James Gunn can revive the flaccid shitstick that is current DC.

[@liamphibia]

Yeah, me too. He should've been the next big bad... Though knowing how Marvel has been treating their legacy characters recently, uhhhhhhh...

[@keiseanb1]

The real Guardians of the Galaxy were all the friends we made along the way.

[@MrDeothor]

I rewatched Guardians 1 and 2 and did you guys know that the '89P13' that the High Evolutionary (baddie from 3rd movie) called was also mentioned in very first movie in the mug-shot scene? It's probably something from comics I guess, but it still was nice to catch it.

[@gabrieltejada1697]

I find it funny how some people in the comments are automatically calling the skeptics who aren’t sure about this movie haters somehow just because of the mess phase 4 was and now they are surprised many people were expecting the same nonsense for this movie just like how antman 3 ended up being regarding phase 5. I honestly don’t blame them for not wanting to bother with the movie considering Disney’s track record and reputation for marvel even if Guardians 3 is a decent film.

[@aleksandragieralt7370]

The man that Peter went to visit at the end is his grandfather, Jason Quill. He was at the beginning of Vol 1 and Gamora tries to convince Peter to visit him in Vol 2. That being said, I have lots of issues with Peter's ending. Firstly, why does his siter, Mantis, not go with him if she wants to learn more about her family. Sure, he's not her biological grandfather, but he mightbbe the only family she has. Secondly, why does he choose to stay on Earth so long (we don't really know how long he stays, the passage of time is not clear). Finally, why didn't he do it in Endgame (on that note, did Rockst never meet a raccoon over the 5 years he spent on Earth? Did he not Google one? "I am Rocket. Rocket RACCOON" is my favorite line but its like they're pretending Endgame never happened.)

[@martynas5757]

Youre bringing too much irl logic into superhero film, considering how smart rocket is he could easily found out where are his origins

[@user-cx5hh2xt8z]

These criticisms are so empty it's insane 😭

[@rynne1104]

i dont think mantis wants to learn mor about her family but herself. like u said, he's not her biological grandfather, why would she? i hav a feeling peter isnt staying w the gramps forever, w the way their rs was at the post cred, how gramps tried to shut him up wen he striked a convo and himsitting there uncomfy, i hope he';ll realised tht gotg is more family to him than his blood relative could. as for rocket, im pretty sure in gotg 1 n 2 tht hes saying hes not a racoon bc he is in denial of his origins. he was, after all, created by a madman who modified him, hes not entirely a racoon, hes rocket racoon. and tht was a good sign of how he has reclaimed his trauma over his origins, i feel as he embraced tht tht experiments made on him is essential to him being him.

[@aa-id7li]

The kill switch thing kind of makes sense when you consider that the HE was so smart he kind of looped back to stupid. Why make a kill switch for a creature you are convinced is so inferior it could never escape you.

[@inkermoy]

If you love these characters from the first 2 movies, it's a really good sendoff for this subfranchise. I had no expectations that this film would save the MCU, which IMO is beyond saving.

[@captaindeadpool313]

The younger Rocket was not voice acted by Bradley Cooper, but Sean Gunn, James Gunn's brother.

[@mysteryneophyte]

I liked it ….like, genuinely. I thought it was super fun and it was a heart and I love the characters and It told a story that I’ve been looking forward to seeing, had Adam warlock… Yeah, it was good

[@NerdyFilmGirl]

Fantastic review. I do see your point about focusing more on Rocket and Quil’s friendship as well as many other points you made. Totally agree that this was made by people who actually care which shouldn’t be refreshing but it is with Marvel. Anytime I feel disheartened by the film industry I pop in an A24 film and feel much better 😂 great work 🎥🥂

[@TheMovieCynic]

A24 is a studio we need to protect at all costs!

[@mileswilliams4356]

90% of A24 films are nonsensical dog shit

[@daryltor7608]

While I disagree with some negatives. I can see why most of the criticism is there. To be honest, I see this as a win for James Gunn rather than Disney or marvel.

[@johnstevens9673]

Peter Quill and Rockets friendship was used as a sub plot when It should have been the main story. What a waste.

[@JsbsbJnshayah]

Rollercoaster of emotions. For me the best since endgame.

[@jayw3512]

Great stuff as always. If GOG3 kicked off Phase 4, it sleep-walks to $1B. MCU doesn’t always follow comics. That said, wanna save the MCU? Here’s how it goes - Quill returned to Earth - becomes new leader of Avengers. He recruits Dr. Strange, Spidey (Sony issue), Nebula, Wasp, Lang, Thor, Banner, Sam and Bucky as core team. Along with others helping on the side - using - Moon Knight, Deadpool, Logan, Shang-Chi, Loki (no idea how), new Guardians and couple Ravagers. Also, make High Evolutionary the big bad going forward. This causes Quill to go to Strange. High Evolutionary wants to destroy Earth 616 for revenge. This is how the MCU can bring back excitement. If still want to use Kang, then have a twist where him and High Evolutionary team up. Maybe Wanda has a redemption type arch… What not to do: Use pointless Kamala Khan, Cassie, She-Hulk, Captain Marvel, Monica Reambooo, Namor and 95 pound Black Panther. Lastly, not caring about Counter Earth, doesn’t surprise me. Why? Because the film wasted ~25 mins going to OrgoScope. Remove that. Then, add Quill / Rocket little more time. This also allows few mins for them to care about Counter Earth being blown up. GOG3 rating: 7.5 / 10.

[@littlebilly8747]

12:29 Relative to hundreds of universes (the stakes of a multiverse film), a few destroyed planets is nothing at this point. It’s refreshing to have the stakes be so “small” again

[@darkhawk4863]

"Separated" or "insulated" from the rest of the MCU... I keep hearing this about this movie, to which my only response is: Is the MCU even really a thing anymore? Mental exercise here: Name any two movies from Phases 4 or 5 that have... literally anything to do with one another. Considering Phase 4 started with a film staring an already dead character and was thus entirely backfill... yeah, it didn't start off well. Even "No Way Home"... *looked* like it might lead into "Multiverse of Madness", but, ultimately... No. The Multiversal stuff in MoM had *nothing* to do with the spell mishaps from "No Way Home". There is *no* throughline to these films anymore, nothing is building to anything, it's just .. noise.

[@erichtomanek4739]

I've just realised where I previously saw the actor who plays Adam Warlock. He played Eustace Scrubb in Chronicles of Narnia adaption of "The Voyage of the Dawn Treader."

[@erichtomanek4739]

I saw GotG2 in the cinema and thought it nice....... I bought on DVD the 1st one, on sale $5.00, and enjoyed it immensely! This 3rd movie I reckon I'll skip. Thanks for an in-depth analysis.

[@hunterprice3320]

Yah that's how I first knew that actor was as Eustace. And he was also from that meme "Wait you guys are getting paid?"

[@DrVenture42]

Your negatives have the same flaw. U keep looking at Quill as centerpiece. Rocket-Quill friendship? The movie is about the Guardians WITHOUT Quill as the center. So what are they? Nebula is a leader too. Drax is a father. Mantis leaves to figure out what she is. Rocket? Turns out Rocket is the Guardians center, not Quill.

[@Connor-fr5cn]

Yeah none of that makes sense. None of it was set up. Quill was always the center piece, it was always his story and he was the leader they looked too. In G1, G2, IW, LaT, it's clear he's the main guardian and the focus is on him. For this movie to be the finale, where rocket is the main character and goes on no leadership journey but somehow ends up the leader is very strange. His deepest bond- Groot, goes no where, it's not even seen. The arc Quill was set up for is the B plot and gets rushed right at the end. Drax is now a peaceful father, but we never actually got to see him be a Destroyer or his bond with children so it's a very hollow ending for him. Mantis never has shown problems with her identity, she has willingly done everything she's wanted to do so far, so for her to abruptly abandon her family for a soul quest is very strange- especially when earlier she criticized Quill for abandoning his Grandfather and not reaching out. It's a good movie, but there are very real flaws. This should have been a 2 parter, so that this movie can tell its story and part 4 can get a finale with the ending we saw.

[@rynne1104]

replying to connor, i rewatched the gotg trilogy recently and id say theyre like a family (uk how sibling rivalry works?) more than looking at quill as a leader, heck they even joked about listening to thor over quill like quill is a self proclaimed leader which made the dynamic very funny. and in gotg 2 even tho its centred on quill it also sets rocket up for a centre bc, and i qoute paraphrased, "its always rocket, rocket this, rocket that" rocket complained as they fought ego. they all relied on rocket to defeat ego. (ie, waited for his ship to come back, his makeshift bomb, tht one bit about tape and how if anybody should hve tape, its him. hes like the dad/mom of the group.) and if someone should take over the gotg when quil is out, it should be him. as for drax, i can agree tho his time as the destroyer ended in gotg 1 in the prison, he continued to be a doffus muscled brain until we finaly see how hes not actually entirely a muscle brain bc hes good w kids, hav we forgot how this man fell in love w his wife and loved his child so dearly tht he called ronin himself? id say he is very capable of emotion and as a dad and we actually saw him more as a destroyer in all the movies than we do as a father which is very well deserved. (and i dont read the comic but watching him fron gotg 1 i found it funny tht mayb his destroyer title only exist in tht prison bc he dominated tht cell but no one outside has ever heard or fear him haha) as for mantis, i find hers the most liberating bc like u said, she has been doings thing willingly FOR the guardians bc thts the only thing she knew, she was brought up by ego, secluded with the only purpose to put him to sleep. she might as well just been born. shes a blank canvas and its about time we see her find herself. and the catalyst, my fav, being how her empathy is being taken for granted in the gotg family dynamic. like how nebula (iirc) critiqued, she was the group's emotional support and nothing else and she screamed back, finally hvng been heard (notice how she talks alot but know one listens to her or took her seriously, she even expressed tht herself) and how thru out the entire show everytime they tried to charm their way thru situations or "talk it out" everyone would just resort to violence. and the scene w the abilisk, we finally saw a situation where empathy is used for the better compared to resorting to violence. she shined in tht scene hvng finally steped up and went w her lead, so id understand her wanting to find herself and focus on herself. shes not abandoning her family there but to find herself like how quill is leaving to find himself if he were to go back to his gramps. the one with groot tho i totally agree, wished theyd touch on him more and at least showed groot being as devastated as quill wen rocket was about to die. i just feel like the movie worked bc the set up has been littered in movies outside of the trilogy too. we hav concluded quill's story w his father in gotg 2 so if we were to still be hunged on him in the 3rd vol, itd be abit too much for me like what more do we want for quill, the title do say its gotg, not star lord. hes suffered losing a mother, 2 fathers(which has been resolved), lover and now, his new found family.

[@DrVenture42]

@@Connor-fr5cn It doesn’t make sense cuz u r rejecting the movies main theme. Quill WAS the centerpiece. Movie opens with Peter drunk and depressed. He was not leading the team. Theme: what are the Guardians WITHOUT Quill? Film answers that question.

[@DrVenture42]

@@blendedcircuit479 Yes Set-Up. Theme was the wrong word. The complaint was that this film did not focus on Quill. As u note from Director comment, that was the point!

[@blndstudiosyt4537]

Lmfaoooo😂😂😂 that COULD NOT be the actual Voice Test 0:19

[@squishy3248]

I disagree. Even aside from the fact that this is the only good movie that Marvel has released in almost 5 years, it’s just a genuinely fantastic and emotional movie, and a great send off for the Guardians. I definitely agree that this isn’t any indication of future MCU quality though, it’s just going to be a diamond in the rough.

[@iamepic6726]

So you literally don’t disagree. Because you agree it isn’t gonna save the mcu. Because it won’t. One movie can’t save an entirely burning universe

[@squishy3248]

@@iamepic6726 No, I disagree with his statement that it’s only “okay”. The movie is way better than just okay, as a stand alone movie and as an end to the trilogy.

[@endgameisbad2733]

yeah i completely i agree with you i thought this movie was really amazing. this movie is pretty divisive online i feel like haha

[@Feitan14889Sama]

​@@squishy3248 nope ur just a small kid it was just catered towards small kids. The story was nothing special it's only u blind marvel fans who hype any mediocre movie if it is from marvel studio

[@immortal.y]

⁠@@Feitan14889Samaso animal abuse is for kids? The guardians are amazing characters. The whole rockets story was sad and calling that for kids is stupid. Clearly ur never watched it. And to just avoid ur only argument being I’m just a blind marvel fan. I think everything after infinity war is bad

[@itsy523]

I just watched the movie and to be honest, given how terrible MCU after end game, this is a good marvel movie aside from No Way Home. It might be the last MCU movie for me.

[@Avarn388]

Really good video. I enjoyed this movie but I recognize just how flawed it is. This was a movie that needed one more rewrite. But I will say this; this blows ant man 3 out of the water. It’s nice we can focus on substantive elements within the movie and we have a writer who genuinely cares. If anything, this movie reminds me a lot of an early phase two film. And I will take that other than the garbage we’ve been getting lately.

[@fearmynaturalgas]

Enjoyable movie. Heartfelt, great chemistry and a nice sendoff for a beloved franchise.

[@stewart_wesker]

You are contradicting yourself, so the best part about the movie is also the part you would have shown separate from the movie? Ultimately making the movie lose it's one saving grace? Good logic Cynic

[@CopaExMachina]

Great review. I didn't like the review. But it was a great review. Much like the movie. It was a good movie. I hated it even though I haven't seen it yet. But it's a solid 6/10 for me. 6 always being my highest rating for a perfect film. Which the movie wasn't. The cinematography was outstanding. How can you argue against cinematography? 6/10 review. Keep it up.

[@realwaifus5514]

This movie is 10 minutes of fantastic emotion mixed with a hand full novelly entertaining to good aspects wrapped in a casing of marvel schlock and elements ranging from mediocre to putrid. Still the best thing since No Way Home (I swear that phrase is the new ‘Still a better love story than Twilight’).

[@Tahmaysu]

It's not amazing by any stretch of the imagination, but considering how much of a dud Phase 4 was this is one of the brightest gems since No Way Home.

[@blueischiii1575]

Imo it was a great movie, 8.5/10.

[@dcmastermindfirst9418]

Nah 7

[@blueischiii1575]

@@dcmastermindfirst9418 What are your complaints?

[@charleszp938]

I enjoyed this movie, but for me, it's worst part is Groot's design. He just looks cartoony, and out of place Imo, which is really strange, seen as how diverse and multifaceted the GOTG world is. Weird terminology at the end there, but you get my point.

[@zootin6688]

i feel you. he does look a lot better, and acutally cool af in the mid credits scene tho.

[@charleszp938]

@@zootin6688 undoubtedly.

[@JBDaniels]

Peter went back to earth to see his grandfather who was introduced in the opening scene of the first movie

[@Nutterbutter123]

Side missions are optional tho. They have to do these quests (per the scripts) for reasons. So there’s that

[@arzpendragon]

To counter the argument that "without those 10 minutes of flashback the movie would be shit, therefore it is" I will bring up one movie : Delivrance. Take out the banjo scene... the whole movie is really boring. But keep it in... it becomes amazing

[@virgil3241]

I liked it, and will be the first Marvel Blu Ray I have bought in many years, which before Phase 4 I bought them all. Is that a sign. no idea. But Ill rewatch this again over Love and Thunder and Black Panther 2, which I have no desire to see ever again

[@Gojeto346]

It just made me wanna rewatch Guardians 1 & 2 again, like it just made me miss the chemistry between everyone but this one is like 5 separate groups of characters which is not what you want in an ensemble movie like the first two were.

[@thrillcollectors]

Actually Sean Gunn apparently plays young Rockets voice

[@erraticuk]

Gamora could easily have just stayed dead, Totally not needed in the movie. Quill forgetting his rocket boots and helmet is like Captain America forgetting his shield. Could they not include a scene of him being disarmed of his weapons and gear.

[@jonathan39272]

1. marvel brought back Gamora in endgame against James Gunn’s choice 2. Peter got drunk as hell in the beginning of the movie, only to be forcibly awaken when Adam Warlock attacked and seriously wounded Rocket. Have you ever forced awake after a time of drinking? It’s not far fetched that he would forget some things considering he had Rocket’s life on the line so there’s really no need to include a scene showing him being disarmed

[@kingexplosionmurder3764]

Gamora being alive was due to Endgame, I’m sure James Gunn would’ve either kept the original Gamora alive or for her to stay dead if he had a choice in the matter. He was pretty much written into a corner with variant Gamora.

[@bohne8746]

watched it yesterday. first marvel movie in the cinema in a long time. liked it👍👍

[@susanalderson8267]

I already quit watching Marvel movies, I'm not about to start again.

[@erikbihari3625]

When? I cause only one I seen in theathers was Dr strange, with rest coming so fast I couldn't be bothered. Hungary isn't made of money Marvel!

[@39mack23]

That's what I've concluded after this film

[@moxiemaxie3543]

Its not a drug lol

[@michaeltate7287]

Honestly, I'm not even sure what would bring me back to Marvel. She hulk and Thor 4 broke me.

[@gabrieltejada1697]

I don’t blame you

[@optimascrime5235]

I didn't see this movie because it was a MCU film I saw this movie because it was a Guardians films,These movie's work so good on their own outside of the general MCU,It's a really good thing they are especially as of lately 😂

[@therealventures]

0:23 I can say hes definitely not the 1st to curse while trying out the voice of an animated character. But thats funny af.

[@Eric_Black134]

Like everyone else, i think that the flashbacks are the best part (shocker). But i seem to be in the minority when i say that, take the flashbacks out, and you still have a good movie. I dunno, for the first time since spiderman, i feel like i can watch a marvel movie and not feel made fun of for being a straight white male. That ALONE puts this one higher than the entirety of phase 4 and Antman

[@JeremyMaldonadoSTK]

Leaving Rocket's flashbacks as an afterthought for the factory that is Disney+ is an TERRIBLE idea

[@Brandon_4272]

Actually it's pretty phenomenal 😂

[@allbthatmom2153]

Explain how?

[@Temoni09]

​@allbthatmom2153 you're so stupid just watch the god damn movie

[@poloralphlauren7712]

Agreed. Adam starts off a villain and ends up being moved by the teams compassion therefore giving him a sense of home. We are introduced to the past that makes Rocket who is in the MCU. We are given a sequence of the team battling as one accompanied by great background music. Prior to the send off, the Guardians have a moment of happiness, love, and laughter enjoying a well deserved dance that invokes joy from the audience. The humor is well timed l. At no point in this movie did I feel that it was bad.

[@qrecco]

correction: Peter was saving his second best friend - according to Drax the former Destroyer now Father.

[@SiriusSphynx]

😂

[@EGGAndCoProductions]

I believe Sean Gunn actually did the voice for young Rocket in the flashbacks.

[@therealventures]

Cooper still did it

[@olivercrespo2329]

The best that can be said about this movie despite its flaws is that it’s still wholly James Gunn. He’s a creator that cares about his product and won’t let it be corrupted ‘cough’ Russo Brothers ‘cough’ and it give me hope for his work at DC.

[@logan-vq3dm]

guardians 3 is such an amazing movie, easily top 10 of all MCU

[@nathanlongstreet9964]

First time I’ve ever disagreed with you. I think that the “pointless” part of Orgocorp had a lot of good character content and some amazing fight scenes. I think you disregarded Quill and Rockets development in guardians 2 and all in all it was a good movie.

[@Tplaysgames78]

Ngl I saw this movie twice and I rlly enjoyed it both times so….

[@ricardovivar8154]

Rocket was voiced by sean gunn on the flashbacks. Not bradley cooper

[@awsomespecs]

Nebula had a line about the whole planet being destroyed, they should have had more to say about that but at least it had something I guess.

[@Beastinvader]

The problem is the inconsistent theme. It went from dead serious to "here's a cool song" back and forth throughout the movie.

[@fashiharz8584]

I sighed when the movie went "here's a cute animal" for the 100th time.

[@brianarmijo704]

My exact problem with it. I actually thought this and Wakanda Forever were the only good movies since Endgame, though I felt the tonal inconsistency was off-putting.

[@galaxysurfer1122]

Maybe some people were turned off going to see this film because of Marvel's overall slide after Endgame, (ie superhero fatigue), but I went specifically to see the Guardians DESPITE the crap Marvel has put since out since. I really hope the sales increased substantially for this film, as I loved it, and although slightly upset that it's probably the end of them as a team, I still was satisfied it wasn't a bad film. .

[@stephengordon8594]

GOTG3 is a decent MCU movie that finishes the stories of the last characters I care at all about. I think this is a good place for me to jump off this train.

[@brundenw]

If I'm not mistaken, I believe it's actually Sean Gunn who voices Young Rocket in the flashback scenes, not Bradley Cooper

[@therealventures]

I heard it was Cooper who voiced but Sean still did the motion capture.

[@aidarjapykeev4544]

I think this movie is a masterpiece. I was disappointed with Knowhere, though. I mean, some would say that this is just a CGI, but for me it’s not good, when in Guardians of the Galaxy 1 - giant head is like a planet, but here is just a size of Yondu’s Ravagers’ ship. It downgraded just like Asgard was enormous in Thor 1, and was just a small country in Thor: Ragnarok🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️. Anyways, I enjoyed a lot, and loved everything else in Guardians of The Galaxy 3, I loved Adam Warlock, despite him being in a movie only for few minutes. Because, the film is focusing on ending story with this team of Guardians and sets up new team in the end. So, I don’t think it’s just okay movie, it’s fantastic.

[@lunarguardian5523]

Agree man. The movie was amazing and full of emotion. I don't know how many times i cried through the movie. And also, like you said, it was a worthy send off for this specific team of guardians and each of them got a chance to shine through the movie. My personal favorites were Mantis and Nebula to be honest. Considering where they're coming from their character development in this movie made me appreciate them a lot more. I especially became a fan of Mantis. She's so cute and adorable but her emotional scenes are very impactful. All in all, it's a great movie, and unfortunately, my farewell to the mcu as well. There is no point in mcu anymore with the departure of guardians i grew up loving, and no movies or series mcu bring from now will ever reach to the quality of this movie for me. So i guess it's time for me to say goodbye to the mcu as well (unless this guardians team return in the future, then I'll definitely watch that), but other than that, yeah, i guess it's time to finally move on.

[@aidarjapykeev4544]

@@lunarguardian5523 Agree bro. After Endgame, MCU disappointed me so much, Eternals, Dr. Strange 2, Thor 4, Wakanda Forever, Ant-man 3 - all of them were trash. Wandavision in my personal opinion with which a lot of people will not agree - was extremely boring and stupid, disappointing trash. And she-hulk was just a crime vs humanity. So since Endgame, I haven’t felt the connection between me and the movie from Marvel Studios, except Shang-Chi and Spider-Man, but the Guardians 3 is just masterpiece, and as u said after the movie it really felt like the end. Childhood is over, and even if noone died in Guardians 3, I still feel sad that the journey ended. BUT! I think it’d be really stupid from Marvel to introduce Adam Warlock and other characters like Phyla, Cosmo, and not to continue their story. So I hope and really think that there will be new trilogy for new team of Guardians. Also film about Ravagers with Sylvester Stallone and his team would be great, because personally I’m really invested (I mean their adventures when they were young). Only movies, that I wanna see from Marvel now - Avengers: Kang Dynasty, Avengers: Secret wars, Deadpool 3, and Shang-chi + new Guardians of the Galaxy trilogy, Spider-Man 4 with Daredevil in it. And Daredevil: Born Again.

[@yujiang3154]

​@aidarjapykeev4544 dude, that's still plenty, you're really not skipping much. I thought Shang Chi was a very cringe and boring movie, it's pretty sad that that's the Asian representation movie in Marvel, I was so disappointed. But other than that, I agree with you, but I'm mainly just excited for Deadpool and Daredevil Born Again at this point, the new Avengers roster really doesn't feature many I care about, and Kang isn't nearly as interesting as Thanos so far, so I don't know how the next Avengers movie is going to live up to the hype. But I have some hope for projects like Blade and Thunderbolt still, I'm so tired of the whole magic and Multiverse stuff, I just want to see superheroes punch and kick again I guess.

[@lunarguardian5523]

@@aidarjapykeev4544 I agree man. All the series and movies (besides Moon Knight and no way home) have been straight up trash for me. I liked wandavision at first but it became too boring and repetitive after a point. I used to like it but now i don't like it that much either. But the Guardians man. It truly was something else. If i didn't know that gotg were marvel characters i wouldn't believe if someone said it was a Marvel movie. It felt sooo different and unique compared to everything Marvel has done so far( excluding it's predecessors, vol 1 and vol 2 of course, they were amazing as well) but this one was on another level. The scene where they said goodbye to each other wasn't just them parting ways with each other, it was also us parting ways with them. Like finally saying goodbye to the franchise that made our childhood years so great. So seeing them split up and go to seperate ways after witnessing their adventures for nearly 10 years really brought me to tears. It was such a mature and realistic theme in my opinion. No matter how much you love someone or how long you've been together, saying goodbyes are sometimes an inevitable part of the life. As for New Guardians, they're cool and all, but nothing can replace the original team for me. Quill, Mantis, Nebula, Drax, they are just such irreplacable parts of the Guardians of Galaxy. They were all so valuable for the group and they had such an incredible chemistry together that not seeing them together in the next installments will never make me feel the same excitement to be honest. Not to disrespect new members but the original members have such a special place in my heart and they will always have. So that's why with the departure of this specific group of guardians the mcu will never feel the same for me anymore. So that's why i decided it was finally the time for me to move on and quit mcu after such a glorious and worthy ending to the characters i grew up loving and adoring.

[@travisgowen5044]

Calling the destruction of Counter-Earth a world ending threat feels like twisting the situation to fit your narrative in my opinion.

[@rael2915]

Hard disagree with this one. This was the best MCU film since Endgame at the very least. Easily a top 10 along with the other two Guardians films.

[@Glippyy]

Endgame is terrible

[@nont18411]

Out of all the so-called “good villains” of the MCU, High Evolutionary seems like the only one who should be killed right away in a single movie because Rocket sparing his life is so out of character for him. Rocket helped kill Ronan and Ego for a lot less and none of these villains really hit Rocket on a personal level. High Evolutionary is TOO PERSONAL for him. Rocket (if he’s consistent) would have wanted to confirm kill to make sure that he’s really dead. So we got Killmonger and Gorr who got killed in their very first film, even though making them recurring villains could work better for them, while High Evolutionary, who should have died in this movie just got a fake out death for his eventual return for the future Avengers sequels.

[@grizzlygrimgaming1530]

It shows his development though as a character. Didn’t he say he was a guardian of the galaxy now? He’s doing things a bit different it seems

[@nont18411]

@@grizzlygrimgaming1530 The very same Guardians of the Galaxy also used the same reason while killing Ronan. Sure, it was Quill who said it but it’s also a collective effort to stop Ronan for good.

[@totally3totally]

Thanks for touching on all the issues I have with this film. Rocket's past and present seem very separated and at no time do they really come together and that creates an emotional separation in me as well. I simply don't care enough about rocket's animal friends as much as I care for the guardians, so the flashbacks to me just felt like they were trying to make me feel.

[@user-kq1zh4io7o]

yeah and rockets friends were annoying

[@thetotaldramaking5427]

I think your criticisms are very good, a well rounded review. I don’t agree with you on some things and there are a few character errors like it being Peter’s Grandad not Uncle but I can respect your criticisms definitely, it’s a shame about Adam Warlock

[@dexlovesgames_dlg]

My understanding was that rocket had a fucked up kill switch or wasn’t remote trigger-able. A thing that the evolutionist probably “fixed” very shortly after rocket disappeared. That’s even what I thought while watching the movie so it definitely didn’t feel like a contrivance to me, and made sense as well that it hadn’t come up yet.