Guenther Steiner on Papaya Rules, Ferrari Constructors Odds, Kimi’s Mercedes Debut & KMag’s Race Ban

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@kateeddens8005
@kateeddens8005 3 ай бұрын
"Guenther is my team principal" merch
@shuji997
@shuji997 3 ай бұрын
"He do no fok smash my door" merch
@cherray50
@cherray50 3 ай бұрын
Need this YESTERDAY
@its_clean
@its_clean 3 ай бұрын
Yes please guys for the love of god let me give you money for this 🙏
@allanthomsen3992
@allanthomsen3992 3 ай бұрын
Fok yeah
@abutomtom117
@abutomtom117 3 ай бұрын
Lando simply doesn’t deserve it. He is no Hamilton or Verstappen and Piastri is no Bottas or Perez. Lando has bottled 7/7 pole positions on the first lap. How many WDCs ever had that record? He had 53 laps to get it back and couldn’t. He took longer to pass Sainz. As Eddie Jordan said, you have to earn the right to ask, and Lando hasn’t. Lando crashed trying to pass Verstappen because he got needlessly impatient. Piastri is ice cold, clean and fast. And, Lando blew the relationship by not giving back then lead after the team screwed up by undercutting their own lead driver. Piastri watched that and knows where Lando’s integrity is.
@blakebarone1809
@blakebarone1809 3 ай бұрын
Yea yea. But the backup quarterback is always the most popular player in town. In other words, we are seeing that Lando isn’t good enough to not be bothered by the speed of Oscar, but seeing that Lando is leading, Oscar certainly isn’t good enough to not be bothered by Lando’s speed.
@andremarquess
@andremarquess 3 ай бұрын
the actual papaya rules are the ones we made along the way
@sscssc908
@sscssc908 3 ай бұрын
It's like uno. You can make the rules while you drive.
@Shocker99
@Shocker99 3 ай бұрын
Papaya rules sound like they're biased towards Oscar? Lando said that Oscar won the race when he beat him into T1 on the first lap when Lando gave Oscar the win. Last weekend Lando beat Oscar into T1 but Oscar raced Lando hard for the overtake at the first opportunity.
@steffighter144
@steffighter144 3 ай бұрын
It's like a Star Wars film from Disney: No clear direction or story, but it must succeed at the end.
@steffighter144
@steffighter144 3 ай бұрын
@@Shocker99 exactly I also think that. The question is: do they really want to risk that they crash each other.
@sscssc908
@sscssc908 3 ай бұрын
@@steffighter144 Mastaa! How you are so wise.
@ridunkulous
@ridunkulous 3 ай бұрын
the best part of the whole episode is teaching Gunther the term "raw dogging" 🤣🤣🤣
@fitnessturtle959
@fitnessturtle959 3 ай бұрын
“They thought they ate but there was papaya crumbs left” give me that on a t-shirt 😂😂
@leovigildomandlate3122
@leovigildomandlate3122 3 ай бұрын
“Very glad you ask that Bryan” got me cracking 😂 17:52
@eduardosantana8300
@eduardosantana8300 3 ай бұрын
40:55, Steiner is an absolute savage. What a personality.
@cococalm
@cococalm 3 ай бұрын
PAPAYA rule is : Rule 1 Don't crash, Rule 2 Race each other Rule 3 If it gets zesty between the both of you, refer to rule 1.
@zacharyradford5552
@zacharyradford5552 Ай бұрын
Throw back to the Marlboro days.
@DroidRagePsycho
@DroidRagePsycho 3 ай бұрын
Schrödinger's Papaya.
@doreenmorris6556
@doreenmorris6556 3 ай бұрын
I love this!!!
@rpcorp
@rpcorp 3 ай бұрын
Without a doubt the best F1 pod of all time🏁🏆🏁
@louissakonispoliatis5549
@louissakonispoliatis5549 3 ай бұрын
I enjoy listening to this podcast on my way to work. It puts me in such a good mood. I love Guenther❤
@mycorvettelife
@mycorvettelife 3 ай бұрын
No one remembers Mercedes won the 2021 F1 Manufacture’s Championship. Everyone remembers Max Verstappen won the WDC driving a Red Bull.
@martinuso7446
@martinuso7446 3 ай бұрын
Nobody remembers any constructors' championships, do they. Or maybe people working in F1 do, but fan's, noway.
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 3 ай бұрын
Fans don’t really care, but the teams sure do. There’s a lot at stake for them. Number 1 is money. Money from FOM and the extra amount they can charge going forward to sponsors. Much less so there’s also the extra merch sales. On top of all that are a lot of perks like pit garage location. The teams also give out bonuses to employees based on WCC position. Teams very much care about the WCC.
@GioScalia
@GioScalia 3 ай бұрын
certainly the teams do. That's the only one that pays anything.
@AleksisA88
@AleksisA88 3 ай бұрын
everyone remembers masi winning the championship indeed
@210gremlin
@210gremlin 3 ай бұрын
There’s no way McLaren ever says “papaya rules” over team radio again 😂
@malvinelpinnoy
@malvinelpinnoy 3 ай бұрын
I've always wondered what it would be like -maybe in an alternative universe, to have Gunther as a team principal for higher ranking drivers like Hamilton or Max. It's the way he is so used to bashing his drivers when they fail cracking the top 10 and I'd love to see him in the presence of top drivers and how he'd interact with them 😅😅😅
@brendanfernandez8744
@brendanfernandez8744 3 ай бұрын
I hate the Lando slander however I cannot ignore i laughed my ass off the entire episode
@zacharyradford5552
@zacharyradford5552 Ай бұрын
He’s earned it with him definitely setting the record of losing poles on the first lap of a season. Sixth season and he doesn’t have an edge he’s never gonna get it.
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 3 ай бұрын
Mark isn’t the only one in Oscars ear telling him not to accept a #2 role when he still has a chance. Alonso has been great friends with Webber for 20 years and he and Oscar are seen together A lot at the track. No multiple WDC would accept that. Max, Alonso, Lewis, Schumi, Vettel, Senna, etc didn’t. Vettel ruthlessly taught Webber that lesson. McLaren probably would also admire the ruthless of a champion that Lando isn’t showing. RB did with Vettel. Because of that and his speed McLaren may see Oscar as there future and may not want to drive him away.
@JBWRacing
@JBWRacing 3 ай бұрын
god i love this man so much, you brighten up my day
@mutleyeng
@mutleyeng 3 ай бұрын
just blows my mind that so few get the "let them race" philosophy. Mclaren have always had, Williams had it back in the day when they were any good (even lost both their drivers the wdc too .... Frank shrugs and says "oh well, they didn't do it". The drivers tittle is between drivers. This isn't an unusual thing - people have lived too long under the Red Bull model, or Mercedes with Bottas before that
@lungamthwana6020
@lungamthwana6020 3 ай бұрын
"Let them race" but not at the expense of the championship. Surely that is common sense. Why gift Max the championship. In football terms that is called an own goal. Let them race until one of them is realistically out of the championship. In this case it is Oscar. Lando is better positioned to win the championship so the team must fully back him. Next time it may well be Oscar (I personally believe that Oscar is the better driver), then Mclaren will need to back him if the situation is reversed.
@jojob285
@jojob285 3 ай бұрын
Where have you been the last 30 yrs...did you ask yourself why MS, Ham, Seb or Max were able to win multiple wdc? it's bec of f*"#ing team orders and yet people still think they are the greatest drivers ever...they knew they needed to be the #1 driver and no competition from teammates to win multiple wdc..And also remember what happened to McLaren back in 2007 where Kimi/ferrari beat Ham/Alo by just 1 pt...we all knew why McLaren lost the wdc there despite winning the constructor.
@davidchapman3042
@davidchapman3042 3 ай бұрын
@@jojob285just fyi, mclaren were disbarred entirely from the constructors standings in 07. And yes you’re right on the title winning formula of MS and lh, the every point counts and needing to back 1 driver entirely from get go model.
@craigspender1710
@craigspender1710 3 ай бұрын
1. Oscar is stone cold. Don't mess with him. 2. He has Mark Webber as his manager. 3. See above.
@mycorvettelife
@mycorvettelife 3 ай бұрын
Lando has been with the team for 6 years. Been loyal since day 1. He has had opportunities to jump, and didn’t. He’s been THE GUY. Now the team have a shot and they are not supporting THE GUY! Oscar is a rookie +1, hasn’t been through all the hard times. He just walked in the door and was handed a championship capable car. Lando paved the road.
@seashackf1
@seashackf1 3 ай бұрын
None of that matters if Oscar is the better driver. Speed and results overrule loyalty in F1. McLaren may very well think Oscar is and that he’s their future so they don’t want to drive him away. They may also like that he’s displaying the ruthless traits of a champion just like Vettel did to Webber. Alonso, Max, Lewis, Schumi, Vettel, Senna, etc none of them accepted helping their teammate win a title over themselves.
@oIZemiixo
@oIZemiixo 3 ай бұрын
The problem is that mclaren are doing team orders and racing each other when they didn’t even win the race. Secure the win first and then race each other, all of this did nothing but lose them a race. There is also a difference between making Oscar a second driver and Oscar not overtaking lando in a way that compromises a 1-2
@christofferrsnes9508
@christofferrsnes9508 3 ай бұрын
Mclaren lost the race by 2-stopping, not fighting eachother. The Mclaren had a clear advantage over Ferrari on pace but Leclerc’s tyre masterclass caught Mclaren out.
@oIZemiixo
@oIZemiixo 3 ай бұрын
@@christofferrsnes9508they two stopped because they were pushing trying to fight each other, and once leclerc passed lando the whole race changed, we’ve seen mclaren hold a 1-2 at monza before by not letting them race
@christofferrsnes9508
@christofferrsnes9508 3 ай бұрын
@@oIZemiixo Yeah that’s because they were almost set for doing the 2-stop before the race. Meaning they could drive faster lap times and dont worry about graining. I think it was more that Mclaren were caught out by Ferrari going for it that lost them the race.
@mutleyeng
@mutleyeng 3 ай бұрын
the compromise was caused by Lando having a terrible first few corners. It was really bad, he was all over the place
@oIZemiixo
@oIZemiixo 3 ай бұрын
@@christofferrsnes9508 sure, but when you have a 1-2 you can dictate the pace. Mclaren didn’t have to pit first, I just play the f1 game and I know that if I have a gap to the car behind I don’t pit first. Unless Charles is catching and threatening a pass you just stay out cause he has the same tire strat as you.
@Robert1187
@Robert1187 3 ай бұрын
Lando could be born again and he still couldn’t put oscar back in the box. Oscar is levels better than lando.
@GhostOfParisMiami
@GhostOfParisMiami 3 ай бұрын
Thats why lando is 44 points ahead of oscar. Oscar has the potential to be the next big thing but it would take time. It is his second season in f1. Maybe next season we will see what oscar is truly capable of. He probably will be better than lando but Lando has a way better chance for this year’s wdc then piastri
@Robert1187
@Robert1187 3 ай бұрын
@@GhostOfParisMiami oscar has veen catching lando faster than lando has caught max. Oscar scored the most points in europe overall. And now they wanna put the brakes on him? I get it but it will not end well. Charles is 20+ away from lando. So now for holding oscar back charles is gona take it all away from mclaren just wait.
@GhostOfParisMiami
@GhostOfParisMiami 3 ай бұрын
@@Robert1187 oscar has no possibility for winning this championship. He will definitely win it in the future provided he has a car like the mcl38 but unfortunately he is so far behind max he cannot. Lando has a better chance if any seeing how strong redbull is at baku
@Robert1187
@Robert1187 3 ай бұрын
@@GhostOfParisMiami I think it’s pretty obvious oscar doesn’t care about beating max, he wants to chop landos head clean off. And he can do it too, Mclaren knows that so they’re gonna try and hold him back so lando can attempt to win his first tittle and in the process of doing that charles is gonna swoop in and take the constructors away because lando doesn’t have it yet, he’s not even close to being ready to fight with the big boys, just wait and see. My team is RB so i’m glad they’re having that internal issue now with the papayarules.
@GhostOfParisMiami
@GhostOfParisMiami 3 ай бұрын
@@Robert1187 Certainly oscar and lando fighting each other doesnt help win the constructors as seen at monza. Ferrari is back where it was at the start of the season and redbull has potential of scoring big points at baku and singapore. Even if max wins the drivers championship due to the so called “incompetence” of lando, favouring one driver helps with the constructors too. Mercedes, Ferrari both have good pace now and Ferrari too has a real chance of winning the constructors. Mercedes has too big of a deficit now but it still can deny Mclaren and lando valuable points. In my opinion favouring lando over oscar is the right choice. Lando is also very overhated due to his annoying fanbase which is why their is a lot of bias in your comments. In the big picture it is still very impressive that lando has a chance of catching up to verstappen even when max pretty much dominated the first quarter.
@thecomicsarereal
@thecomicsarereal 3 ай бұрын
If Lando had been a little more supportive of Ricciardo and advocated for him, he might not have an Oscar problem this season and have a true team collaboration to get Lando a world title. Small lesson in why thinking about the big picture from all angles and possibilities is important.
@siteshnarayangautam2780
@siteshnarayangautam2780 3 ай бұрын
Yeah I mean think about, it who knows maybe Riccardo might gotten a few wins, or MAYBE, instead of Lando, we would have Riccardo in that car this year, chasing down MAX. Just imagine. The one guy, in my opinion, who deserves the championship the most he could have won a championship. Because lets be honest, there is a very high probability that McLaren will bee good in 2025. So I mean, just put Riccardo in the blend and think.
@Mexxx65
@Mexxx65 3 ай бұрын
Oscar Piastri is only after ONE thing in F1. And its not being a bridesmaid to Lando Norris. And if he can't get McLaren to help in, he'll go elsewhere. McLaren had the chance to have a No.2 with Daniel Ricciardo. But they sacked him.
@pmp1337
@pmp1337 3 ай бұрын
WOW... now even Riccardo being a shitter is Lando's fault...
@gaycha6589
@gaycha6589 3 ай бұрын
Are you drunk? DR joined as the steady pair of hands and experienced driver. Norris was the neophyte, yet you think he should have supported DR, lol. LN was too busy getting to grips with F1 himself.
@jdtv05
@jdtv05 3 ай бұрын
It wasn't Lando's job to pitty and baby Daniel through his issues. If all it needed was few pleasantries from Lando to solve Daniel's spiral I guess would've been easier and cheaper for everyone
@DolarsAndSense
@DolarsAndSense 3 ай бұрын
59:02 got me. I love this guy edit: what a premonition, mclaren released him to go after sauber deal
@NoNamePilot
@NoNamePilot 3 ай бұрын
If I'm Oscar, I'm not sure there's enough money to make me subdue my rage for revenge after what Lando did to him in Hungary. I was a Lando fan till that race. Go Oscar.
@pmp1337
@pmp1337 3 ай бұрын
What did he did in Hungary? Gift him a win! And Lando's engineer promised Oscar would help...
@arthurmas5015
@arthurmas5015 3 ай бұрын
you're acting as if you wouldn't think twice too if you had to decide between stealing a win from your teammate because of a mistake that isn't even yours or reduce your chances at a WDC by giving the position back
@langbuddha2798
@langbuddha2798 3 ай бұрын
@@arthurmas5015 i wouldnt think twice, i would just take the win, i would spam the radio button so my engineer cant talk to me
@martinuso7446
@martinuso7446 3 ай бұрын
Would Senna, Prost, Lauda, Schumacher, Verstappen, Hamilton, Alonso, Vettel, Mansell, Piquet, and so on have given the win up? NO.
@neetsk12
@neetsk12 3 ай бұрын
​@@martinuso7446 forget the great, even piastri wouldn't do that. Piastri fans acting like he's the fairest of them all 😂
@DrewBlankMusic
@DrewBlankMusic 3 ай бұрын
Now you've gone and done it, first listen and I had to subscribe.
@69fredwilson
@69fredwilson 3 ай бұрын
This had somehow became my favorite F1 podcast. These 3 together are gold Also all the ❤ for Nicole 😂
@mikolaygrudzien8764
@mikolaygrudzien8764 3 ай бұрын
Thank you Mr. Steiner for your insights here. I learned a lot. Piastri is only in his second season, I think he is really going places. I look forwards to Audi coming in as a big factory team and bringing it to Ferrari, in the mean time McLaren is making it very exciting. I always liked Bottas, I wish him all the best in resurrecting his career with Audi.
@drawkcab9731
@drawkcab9731 3 ай бұрын
Apparently Guenther and I have the same taste in movies and I feel more cultured because of it.
@im_a_clown3354
@im_a_clown3354 3 ай бұрын
If Lando can't beat his own teamate consistantly and needs Oscar to throw his races to artificially boost his point tally, then he doesn't deserve to the World Champion. Put Max, Alonso, Lewis or Charles in that car, and we wouldn't be seeing any of this, because they would just dominate Oscar. Honestly, even some less popular drivers like George and Hulk would manage to do it. This whole talk about team orders just shows how average Lando is for not being able to completely dominate his teamate that doesn't even have 2 years on F1.
@jojob285
@jojob285 3 ай бұрын
You didn't see this in Ham Max or Alo because they were the clear #1 when they had the most dominant car...that's the whole point...and as far as the wdc pts is concerned, Lando is still much ahead of Oscar so clearly, Lando so far is beating Oscar. Maybe Oscar out performed Lando in maybe 2 or 3 of the last few races, but wdc is determined from whole season overall performance and not from last few races.
@gaycha6589
@gaycha6589 3 ай бұрын
Hmmm - he easily dominated Riccardo when the car was shite, and with far less experience
@im_a_clown3354
@im_a_clown3354 3 ай бұрын
@@gaycha6589 Danny Ric was beyond terrible during his McLaren days. Almost every driver would have beaten that Ric. Nothing to brag about Had it been Red Bull Ric or Renault Ric, Lando would have been destroyed. And even that finished Ric was the One who ended up winning a Race for McLaren in Monza, not Lando.
@gaycha6589
@gaycha6589 3 ай бұрын
@@im_a_clown3354 you make my point perfectly.
@hb213-k4z
@hb213-k4z 3 ай бұрын
I think Im more interested in 'IF' Max can actually save this season with the monster, rather than Lando sTuMBLiNg his way into a drivers championship. That will be a tough swallow for sky media and Lando, I think thats the storyline for me, and Oscar will be the scapegoat unfortunately and as a result the birth of the "Origins" story we all want, Oscar wud make an antagonist we'd secretly love 😅
@jeroenbons637
@jeroenbons637 3 ай бұрын
So called Team principle calls which are directed to change the track position between team-mates are the most UNSPORTIVE means to hand a race- and/or championship win to one favored driver. If one driver is clearly faster than the other ‘team orders’ are not needed. If one driver collected more points in the first half of a season he has to make sure that he keeps his advantage in the second half..but if the other driver starts to collect more points in the second half it is not fair to punish him for his effort.
@michaeleaster1815
@michaeleaster1815 3 ай бұрын
29:38 Not just "WTF ..." but "what about Hungary GP?! then WTF..." ... Just found this channel and very glad to see Guenther
@JeanneJames
@JeanneJames 3 ай бұрын
Death Proof, early Tarantino; stunts, cars, fun. Good chats guys.
@thiagomclima2004
@thiagomclima2004 3 ай бұрын
Hope Bortoleto have a chance. After his legendary performance in Monza, there is a chance! He'll be the Brazilian Redeemer in F1.
@AboveRL
@AboveRL 3 ай бұрын
Just saw Rocky One, grew up on rocky 4, loved it
@Shevabestfan
@Shevabestfan 3 ай бұрын
Gosh, this is so much better than DC and the village idiot
@michaeleaster1815
@michaeleaster1815 3 ай бұрын
40:40 Guenther's retort is truly hilarious... I'm new but I laughed as hard as Ferrari-hat guy
@rickpetersen5728
@rickpetersen5728 3 ай бұрын
Papaya rules: Whatever you do, make sure we minimize points.
@andrewstorm8240
@andrewstorm8240 3 ай бұрын
Haas is doing really well this year
@gustavhenriksen591
@gustavhenriksen591 3 ай бұрын
1:05:39 Guenthers smile fading lmfao
@RamonCalatraba
@RamonCalatraba 3 ай бұрын
Love this posdcast and I enjoy listening to you guys a lot. I'm glad that you can monetize this, and as more you get on that, more the audience is going to benefit. Having said that... accepting the sponsorship of a betting house... I don't like, for me is the same as accepting sponsorship from Malboro.
@vince-cg7kq6lo5z
@vince-cg7kq6lo5z 3 ай бұрын
So basically, even with the best car the only way Lando wins is if his teammate throws his season. 👍
@neetsk12
@neetsk12 3 ай бұрын
Not like oscar is winning. They're both a waste for that car. Give it to max, lewis, Nando or charles. They'll be winning every race.
@chowchowtales
@chowchowtales 3 ай бұрын
😂 I love Guenther.
@gregmeyer33
@gregmeyer33 3 ай бұрын
good work gentlemen
@boosterhuiz2779
@boosterhuiz2779 3 ай бұрын
It was the T2
@Surfsaus
@Surfsaus 3 ай бұрын
People are talking like lando is 100 points in front of oscar. He's only 40ish points in front of oscar. Sorry but there's 8 races to go and oscar can still win the title. Let the best driver win. Its fairly obvious that mclaren rate oscar higher than lando and don't want to lose hm to another team.
@matthewjohngaete1852
@matthewjohngaete1852 3 ай бұрын
What? Oscar is 100 points behind Max.
@DaveSmith-s6e
@DaveSmith-s6e 3 ай бұрын
Odds of lando winning the title 7/4. Odds of Oscar winning, 100/1. He’s dropped 40 odd points over 16 races, lando has shown no signs of driving at a level where he will not consistently get podiums. He needs lando to DNF twice, and then lando finishing p1 and Oscar p2 in a single race is enough to put him back in front. Anyone who can count can see Oscar’s cannot mount a title shot from this position.
@thecomicsarereal
@thecomicsarereal 3 ай бұрын
That’s not the point. Oscar is free to race for a championship but not at the expense of cutting his teammate’s legs out. If his teammate is ahead of him even by a little the goal is not to sabotage him with wild moves on him at the front of the grid. Take those wild moves on the other teams. It is to both of your detriment. Watch closely what happened this past race. Oscar made idiotic moves that put the enemy ahead of both of them.
@user-tr1hx7jx4r
@user-tr1hx7jx4r 3 ай бұрын
Charles is 24 points behind Norris , so his got a shout too
@tristanskipworth4377
@tristanskipworth4377 3 ай бұрын
@@user-tr1hx7jx4reven more reason to try and build the gap
@plondaits
@plondaits 3 ай бұрын
Brian is all happy about his smart question and then a few seconds later says "A broken clock is right three times a day" 🤣
@heyboubou
@heyboubou 3 ай бұрын
I need Vankah Racing merch!!!!
@ericrobinson9340
@ericrobinson9340 3 ай бұрын
I wish I could just have this auto play on Thursday mornings to wake up to lol
@MarkSiosal
@MarkSiosal 3 ай бұрын
The T4 was Villeneuve and Scheckter I believe.
@heliwrecker8649
@heliwrecker8649 3 ай бұрын
Papaya rules appears to be every man for himself as long as you don't F the CAR!!!
@littleclum
@littleclum 3 ай бұрын
Papya Rules = Webber adamant to ensure 'Multi21' to his protege Oscar; I think there'll be some kind of agreement when McLaren stole Piastri from under Alpine's noses...
@Zhuuri
@Zhuuri 3 ай бұрын
Given how McLaren were desperate to sign him most probably they just agreed to his terms and conditions without really thinking them through and compromised on the team's freedom to do whatever they want! Oscar can't just even in one race agree to fall back and help Lando if his contract says he should be treated as a number 1 driver too and there is nothing much they can do about it as it's in his contract! As someone who don't believe in scarcity mentality, I would terminate his contract at the end of the season to buy back the teams freedom to be able to fully support whichever driver they feel would have a good shot at the championship without breaching a contract! There are soo many good driver out there (e.g Bortoleto) who is already in the teams development program and is doing very well!!
@JWF111
@JWF111 3 ай бұрын
Lando needs a DNF. If Oscar can win that race they are both close enough for WDC. Then they can both fight for it.
@Jofr00
@Jofr00 3 ай бұрын
Max also need a DNF
@pmp1337
@pmp1337 3 ай бұрын
Lando needs a DNF by crashing into Oscar next time he want to pull "an amazing overtake" Than McLaren will understand the consequences of Papaya rule's All moot, Andrea Stella already told the news yesterday that they will give team orders to prioritise Lando. If Oscar follows or not is another thing.
@JWF111
@JWF111 3 ай бұрын
@@Jofr00 No I think they can catch Max without a DNF
@Jofr00
@Jofr00 3 ай бұрын
@@JWF111 it s also depends on Ferrari and Mercedes... For ex. A few P1 Oscar and P7 Max
@smarshus1
@smarshus1 3 ай бұрын
Can Gunther have a segment each week where he discusses your tv and film recommendations. I’d love to see what he thought of anatomy of a fall.
@maddalenapalmisani2955
@maddalenapalmisani2955 3 ай бұрын
i think maybe the f1 community is not used to this anymore but it's still close close like it would be. really something to qsk oscar to let lando pass already.. maybelater if lando actually ends up winning and being actually near max but now it would be werid
@Jeckkz
@Jeckkz 3 ай бұрын
Ah Guenther ... What a fucking legend ... I love his honesty
@jeroenbons637
@jeroenbons637 3 ай бұрын
How many races left? 8 . Who can win one or more of these races. Lewis, Charles, George, Carlos, Max, Oscar = total(6) so how many are there left for Lando 2 (50 points). How many sprint races? 3. Suppose Lando wins, despite his bad starts, 2 of them and Max wins the last one. The final count for Lando would be 70 points and for Max 35 points. In that case Lando needs at least 5 DNF’s from Max to have a shot at the #WDC. That is very unlikely to happen.
@lousekoya1803
@lousekoya1803 3 ай бұрын
Oh Yeah Baby !! My favorite Show !
@DolarsAndSense
@DolarsAndSense 3 ай бұрын
F1tv commentary is goated but Guenther should be on when dc can't
@prathamjha8439
@prathamjha8439 3 ай бұрын
goddam what is your guys other podcast , why can't i find it
@slipstream01
@slipstream01 3 ай бұрын
All lando fans want the race lead handed to him
@neetsk12
@neetsk12 3 ай бұрын
Nah, we don't want handed wins like piastri. We are mad that till now the team said whoever gets the lead in t1 wins but now it has suddenly changed to help oscar. They are trying really hard to bring the prost vs senna to get back their legacy but both of them are not Senna or prost and their shit strategy isn't working. Which is why they won't win a WDC even next year. RB and ferrari coz they have lewis now are not gonna sit around with a shit car even next year.
@rupertarthur8448
@rupertarthur8448 3 ай бұрын
This thumbnail with the real pic is much better!!!
@pixelpusher3589
@pixelpusher3589 3 ай бұрын
thanks vankers
@ilyaj6118
@ilyaj6118 3 ай бұрын
For most of 2009 season barichello was chasing button no?
@catherineginn3232
@catherineginn3232 3 ай бұрын
As far as good Westerns go, I think you gotta go with There Will Be Blood (directed by Paul Thomas Anderson, starring Daniel Day-Lewis) and - if you something a bit newer - The Dead Don’t Hurt (written and directed by, and starring, Viggo Mortensen) was good. I know he said he’s not much of a tv guy - but pretty much any tv written by Taylor Sheridan is awesome, and he mostly does Westerns.
@steffighter144
@steffighter144 3 ай бұрын
2:39 exactly McLaren may drop off next year and will be out of reach for anything. They haven't won drivers championship recently. Last one was still Lewis Hamilton in 2008.
@KraigHamit
@KraigHamit 3 ай бұрын
Movie recommendation: Hustle and Flow
@its_clean
@its_clean 3 ай бұрын
You guys all got it wrong, Zak wasn't saying "Papaya rules", he was just excited and exclaiming "Papaya RULES!!!" 😂
@eyeamtim
@eyeamtim 3 ай бұрын
Oscars contract is ironclad… no team orders or no2 EVER! Gonna be fierce from here on in ⚔️
@rozahkobero6234
@rozahkobero6234 3 ай бұрын
True McLaren fans know that this is our testing year, so its all been about improvement, and our culture has always been about working as a team . However, nobody can predict how upcoming seasons will be and whether they will cement their dominance and they should not waste their opportunity
@brettmckenzie7249
@brettmckenzie7249 3 ай бұрын
Lando bottled 7 poles…If you wanna be the man.. beat the man.. Cmon - Piastri is going to destroy Lando.. Oscar is Ice Cold & Fast
@allanthomsen3992
@allanthomsen3992 3 ай бұрын
Guys - your tone, the intensity the whole conversation is much more pleasant when Gunther is joining you - the others are a bit to shrill for me... You're not making the podcast for me i know, but you might have something there. 🙂
@FantasyBenchwarmers
@FantasyBenchwarmers 3 ай бұрын
Crazy how the Papaya Rules did not exist when they asked Lando to give up his place to Oscar.
@ribeqahh
@ribeqahh 3 ай бұрын
Crazy how Lando’s been in F1 7 years, and you’re still 💩 at starting races.
@neetsk12
@neetsk12 3 ай бұрын
True, till Monza it was whoever leads in t1 will be given better strategy and a win is guaranteed but now t4. Basically want oscar to have as many wins as Lando by hook or by crook so it seems like there is a prost vs senna kind of rivalry to get back their glory days. But they're badly falling face down with their stupidity coz zac is no ron dennis and the drivers are not senna-prost level. They've hardly fought against the current champion h2h except in a few races where only Lando has, piastri hasn't even raced anyone else other than his teammate. They're all still hopeless.
@jaycee5676
@jaycee5676 3 ай бұрын
I've been an F1 fan for a very long time......and it's nice to see some American fans that know what they're talking about ☺
@cococalm
@cococalm 3 ай бұрын
Newey issue .... he is the ULTIMATE problem solver. RB don't have this service any more.
@alcoyne3333333333333
@alcoyne3333333333333 3 ай бұрын
There would be nothing about this if Norris wasn't a British driver.. Skyf1 and f1 tv full of ex British drivers as pundits. Apart from Nico they are all British
@lordbenji1989
@lordbenji1989 3 ай бұрын
Maths on point there xD: 1 to 1,35 = 1,35 / (1,35+1) = 57% -> to 43% is a 14% difference
@bonsai9069
@bonsai9069 3 ай бұрын
Lando has not shown he has earned the championship and they do not want to risk having Oscar, who in my mind will become a much better driver than Lando, leave the team as soon as his contract is up due to being sidelined should they try to manufacture a championship for Lando. If Lando goes out and wins the next 3 races on his own merits then absolutely Oscar should and I think will support this but for now we are not there.
@rachelkoiks
@rachelkoiks 3 ай бұрын
🙋🏻‍♀️Question for G-Baby: “Did you tell Antonio not to crash the Haas before his ‘Job Interview’ FP1 in Austin ‘22? He crashed on his first lap.” Literally haven’t heard anyone bring it up after Kimi’s crash. I was yelling at Jolyon thru the tv after he went on and on and on how noooooobody crashes in someone else’s car for an FP1. Still, was surprised how everyone forgot that. It was THAT moment, is what 100% secured Nico Hulkenberg’s seat.
@ARetiredPirate
@ARetiredPirate 3 ай бұрын
I thought they meant "papaya rules!" As in their team color being papaya..
@az10sbum1
@az10sbum1 3 ай бұрын
How about some merch that just says "Stop playing with your papaya! That's the rule"
@aruniyasminazizah3233
@aruniyasminazizah3233 3 ай бұрын
Love this episode! It's just missing one thing... No comments on JV saying that Mick is "not special"? 😆 Edit: and omg you guys recommending se7en to Guenther? Hopefully he watches it and doesn't get disturbed lol (at least he won't be as traumatized as me because I watched it when I was still in junior high ._.)
@dmpunk85
@dmpunk85 3 ай бұрын
Gunther needs to watch The Hateful Eight
@alcoyne3333333333333
@alcoyne3333333333333 3 ай бұрын
All this talk about Oscar.. LANDO lost thet race himself. He's not good enough ..
@OutlierConcepts
@OutlierConcepts 3 ай бұрын
"You have to explain this Raw Dogging to me"
@darkassassinpubgmobile905
@darkassassinpubgmobile905 3 ай бұрын
Oscar clears he deserves priority
@moleekekana5813
@moleekekana5813 3 ай бұрын
Vankah Racing merch 🔥
@pt020
@pt020 3 ай бұрын
It is racing not a charity.
@grace8067
@grace8067 3 ай бұрын
Guenther strikes me as a michael mann fan, put him onto heat
@simon1234567ful
@simon1234567ful 3 ай бұрын
how günther is not a drivers manager.... he'd do amazing!
@zacharyradford5552
@zacharyradford5552 Ай бұрын
I don’t think Max compares to 2016 Nico. 2016 Nico was channeling 1990 Suzuka Ayrton Senna.
@iancampbell2295
@iancampbell2295 3 ай бұрын
Shaikh Abdulla bin Khalifa Al Khalifa is the owner of McLaren, he has the say on what happens in that team
@user-qh9to4fy9b
@user-qh9to4fy9b 3 ай бұрын
McLaren must have forgotten their 07 season 👌
@yorygibson-rc1lw
@yorygibson-rc1lw 3 ай бұрын
Non of them were any near f1 than Brown is a nupty and should not be any where near an f1 team lol😂😂😂😂
@zacharyradford5552
@zacharyradford5552 Ай бұрын
Papaya rule is the Senna vs Prost rule.
@the_shadow_realm5110
@the_shadow_realm5110 3 ай бұрын
I really don’t like Max or Red Bull, but team orders seems artificial and unsportsmanlike to me. Let them race.
@gylria6976
@gylria6976 3 ай бұрын
Will you invite Nico Rosberg here???
@patriciawhorton5729
@patriciawhorton5729 3 ай бұрын
Guenther needs to watch the movie Memento
@OutlierConcepts
@OutlierConcepts 3 ай бұрын
"I'm surprised he asked a good question"
@itxskinmagic
@itxskinmagic 3 ай бұрын
If I were Christian I would get fully on board w the Liam Lawson train. I think he has the potential to be the Max to Oscar’s Lewis.
@itxskinmagic
@itxskinmagic 3 ай бұрын
The next Gen of those gladiator clashes ❤
@elizabethqueen3298
@elizabethqueen3298 3 ай бұрын
Lando deserves it if he can pull off the new few races no doubt about it. Redbull is at a standstill from what they’ve been saying, so lando’s chances are hopeful…
@zacharyradford5552
@zacharyradford5552 Ай бұрын
After Barricello was forced to hand over a single win to Schumacher he was forever known as a number two driver even when Schumacher returned the favor later in the season people praise Schumacher. I understand what Gunther is saying about best for the team but stuff like that can tarnish a drivers reputation and legacy. If Lando wins the drivers championship in 20 years nobody gonna care who won the constructors championship and next season nobody’s gonna care who sacrificed their resume to win the championship.
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