Guild Wars 3 Name Dropped At Investors Meeting

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Give me your thoughts! (FWIW I think it's much easier to be a doomer about this when you're not instantly presented with gameplay footage, trailers, screenshots, juicy stuff).

[@SciFiMangaGamesAnime]

Potentially, first MMO which development started post 'AI' emergence. Giving the rapid technological progress, we might get a phenomenal product at the end, but.. I hope they will start development 2-3+ years from now. Otherwise, ANet might run into a problem, where they will spent two years on something (engine, assets, etc) only to find out that there are new tool, that can do the same.. but in matter of 3 months.

[@mezi5860]

I agreed with what you were saying about it is a lost in translation. "GW3" is what they decided to call the new expansion content. As well the Satellite content that Anet has been working on with the unreal engine.

[@FracOMac]

I'm in the industry and I briefly talked to a recruiter about joining what I presume was the GW3 project. They were only hiring for key roles last year and really getting staffed for pre-production. Extrapolating from that timeline, they're so early in the pre-production process right now that its unlikely there is anything interesting to see for anyone outside the studio. They'll still be in the stage where the core direction and technologies of the game are being worked out.

[@Vidiri]

@@mezi5860 In other words, Korean cooperate speech for "This IP is getting new content we expect to sell as well as a new game within the IP would"

[@Njorik1]

an Guild Wars 3 mmorpg it will take IMO 5 years to make. So by that time we will all be ready to move on. And they can do the same thing that was done when we move from GW1 to GW2. Time jump. 300, 500, 1000 years, no problem. And there can still be a link to GW2 be waking up Aurene to challenge a new threat But if we want to keep GW2 mmo and do something new, that will add to the story, I think an CRPG, diablo-style game, would be awesome! :)

[@niclastname]

Man it REALLY feels like it wasn't meant to be mentioned with how unceremoniously it was just blurted out, probably years before release, while we're not even 1 full expac into what is supposed to be a steady schedule of new gw2 expansions.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Feels like it was Korean corpos speaking to Korean investors, none of which have any real understanding about Guild Wars because it's more of a thing in the west, so they feel safe to mention it in passing.

[@AzureRoxe]

@@WoodenPotatoes Didn't that same announcement mention the west isn't doing that well?

[@carnifex2005]

@@AzureRoxe Yes but NCSoft West wasn't just Arenanet but studios that made failed games like Wildstar.

[@LetiferTV]

Someone has to pay for GW3

[@embreis2257]

well, at least nobody gets fired over this as the boss of all NCSoft bosses blurred it out. let's watch the _damage control_ which is most certainly coming - or not as WP pointed. they may decide to just let it cool down and hope everyone forgets about it

[@Ithirahad]

This whole thing was clumsy. They're trying to spin the withholding of individual game financials from the quarterly reports as as somehow in shareholder interests, they randomly preempted their studio in announcing a massive new project via this weird passing mention, and they gave generally the worst imaginable defense of NCW leadership short of just insulting the guy who posed the question. I thought these guys were more professional than this tbh, but they read as a bit goofy. Still didn't beat Blizzard "don't you guys have phones!?!?!" but not for lack of trying.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Totally agree man, looks like a shit show and looks like AN got eff'd over.

[@Jrockk999]

I have to wonder how far along this Gw3 is actually, because I remember the whispers of a team being put together back in 2019.

[@Fydron]

Knowing their marketing it could be releasing next week.

[@Kevlord22]

@@Fydron We will learn about it by being printed on the side of a random bus in a random city and someone make a photo of it. "Releasing next week!"

[@Punisher1992]

thats what they always did, they are far ahead of annoucing. I remember in caudecus mansion, there was at release already the story room with the masks circling around you, and the release of that room was 2-4 years later.

[@TheMormonatorChannel]

This sounded like a very off the cuff blurb in response to NCSoft Leadership being criticized. Almost like they’re attempted to save face when being presented with the fact that they’re in the negatives profit-wise. Just like you said, we don’t know if that’s actually how the conversation went down, but on the outside it looked like “We’re in the Red, fire this guy” “no wait, they’re making Guild Wars 3”. What’s terrifying is that I wouldn’t bring up Guild Wars 3 in an investor meeting unless I was expecting its release or earnings to impact company stocks within the next fiscal year…so will we see something between now and next January? Who knows.

[@Vidiri]

In this case, it's very possible he misspoke when referencing the new expansion this year. I don't think a GW3 would affect the next fiscal year, as it wouldn't be released during that time I'm sure, but we do know the new expansion will.

[@121dan121]

They can't fire her, she is the wife of the founder and largest shareholder of NCSoft. That's why he goes on about family.

[@niclastname]

I could see using guild wars 3 as a way to try to calm down investors, because iirc in their last earnings report they mentioned guild wars 2 as basically the only thing holding up NC West with strong sales. So it could be like a "hey no look, the guys that are making sales are making a new thing!".

[@TheCrazyyashley]

I have happily spent far too much money on this game to support it, because I truly believe this game is something special. Even with all my playtime on/off since 2012 and all the money spent (like for god sake, I collect the chair skins etc like it's a ocd sport) I still would appreciate a Guild Wars 3 eventually, but I don't think it would be smart to allude to that quite yet. GW2 still has a lot of life in it, and I see so many newer players in maps nowadays and still always have people to do content with. That being said, the game is getting so limited based on the coding it's created from and there is only so much improvements they can do to further the game while keeping it stabilized. I just hope what further content we get continues to be engaging for those of us who hold this game in high regard. TY for your analysis as always WP

[@Oryyyt]

I think it's fine cause I reckon Gw3 isn't happening anytime soon. Maybe around 2028-2030s. Gw2 will have plenty of time to wrap up until then imo. Love the game but it'll be a vintage title at that point with outdated features.

[@australienski6687]

It never occurred to you that a sequel to a game that is already a sequel could be a high possibility?

[@Kyniel]

@@australienski6687 In fairness, how many other MMOs have a 3rd iteration? Are there any? I guess Everquest Next would have been - but it never happened

[@australienski6687]

@@Kyniel Closest I can think of is Runescape 3. GW3 was always in the back of my mind when playing GW2. I'm honestly surprised it hasn't happened sooner.

[@falconhunter88]

I have no faith in them maintaining two MMOs. best case scenario is GW3 fixes alot of issues with GW2 and rewards current players for moving on to the new platform.

[@_M....]

And that's fine tbh. They need to show they've learned the lesssons of what they did wrong with GW2. Most of it is baked in and cannot be fixed, the stufff that can the window closed years ago. The fan base is used to things that don't equate to profit for the devs, which means a poorly supported and unfrequently updated game.

[@whyisthisathingnow...]

​@@_M.... they haven't learned anything that would be good for the players if that's what you're wondering. I have less faith in any new game produced to have any real substance after seeing the gradual decline of both. Mmos are a dying genre now. So not a good investment anymore.

[@_M....]

@@whyisthisathingnow... that's a fair point.

[@ProT3ch]

Well, I'm not playing GW2 much in the last 5+ years, so a new GW3 would be something I would be interested in.

[@SkippytWalrus]

I honestly haven't even followed the news for 5+ years, I don't even know the state of 2 right now.

[@agamersinsanity]

@@SkippytWalrus it's in a good state, but sadly I just feel the game engine is what holding the game back.

[@OscarAndresPabonEstrella]

so if you have not play for 5 years clearly you are going to return 1 month or maximum 1 year and then leave it again.

[@SkippytWalrus]

@@OscarAndresPabonEstrella ah look, Understanding.

[@MnMn-cg2iu]

As somebody, who played GW2 super casual over the years, the problem with GW2 is, that all the endgame systems are super convoluted. There are like a million endgame systems, that basically are all dead ends. In a day and age, where big western AAA MMORPGs aren't made anymore, GW3 could be a huge success.

[@Koakoa45]

Pretty sure this was the freak out when people played Guild Wars and word of Guild Wars2 was happening.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Exact same thing yes!

[@Ithamir]

GW1 was abandoned at its peak. While GW2 is well past its prime. While I wished at the time that GW1 had kept going (and still do!), I do not feel the same towards GW2, even though at this point I've "invested" way more money and time into it. @@WoodenPotatoes

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Actually Nightfall sold very poorly and suggestions were that it was already over the peak! It had a second, longer boom purely motivated by the wait for gw2.

[@australienski6687]

Sounds like denial. GW3 will eventually happen.

[@melski9205]

When they announced GW2, they also cancelled the next expansion. So that was the first hit, the second was the long long wait, they announced it so early. I hope GW2 continues to get new content while they are off making it. The third hit was that GW2 turned out to be nothing like GW1, and wasn't for me. I hope that doesn't happen to you. I also hope this doesn't spell the end for GW1, cause that's what I still love and play.

[@INDAREVISH]

This idea just popped in my head for a next ele spec if we ever get those on the future, imagine physical skills and berserker elite skill like fire punch, water/ice tackle/rush (a charge attack), air flurry (like punching so hard you hit with air jabs), and earth kick or a jump similar to warrior either kick or stomp and the elite elemental berserker or rage that similar to warrior’s rampage it gives physical attacks punches jumps, kicks whatever but infused with whichever element you atune to, adding a high mobility, power based build to the profession.

[@SerrisMerosi]

I remember how they said they wouldn't just straight up drop GW1. I remember the gw1 to gw2 storylines that they were releasing. they dropped gw1 like a rock, and screw anything they were still making for it that they left on cliffhangers.

[@Nellyaa]

MMOs tend to take several years, like 5 at the minimum, to get released. I saw the open jobs on the Arenanet site and they're hiring for lead roles etc. - this means they're assembling a core team, they might have a rough gameplay prototype or something and some concept art on their walls - meaning nothing is done yet and they're still figuring out direction with GW3. It feels pretty obvious with Secrets of the Obscure that they're stretched rather thin and are concentrating their efforts on another project right now though. GW3 might be 6 years away from a release. For me, I am happy anyone is still working on a new MMO these days. We don't really have anything decent except GW2, FF14 and WoW and even that's debatable. Fresh wind with new gameplay concepts and all the great graphics that are possible by now is definitely needed. Although I find that GW2 has great gameplay, but it's starting to feel stunted by it's engine/dev power. It's poorly optimized and probably one of the major reasons they can't build cool new shit with it. Like isn't it just the GW1 engine with a few tuned things on top? That's about 20 years old at it's core. We all know how much has happened since then...

[@EmpyreanDreamer]

One positive to think about is it may not take the typical amount of time an MMO development cycle usually does if they're building it on UE5 and utilizing some new AI tech. UE5 also guarantees not just great visuals but solid optimization too. Definitely something to look forward to if it's in the works. Personally I'm skeptical but I also can't disagree that they're clearly spread thin based on the current expansion. Either the studio is tiny now or the majority of its resources are focused on something bigger.

[@mittenvonscrufflears7233]

Tbf the new SOTO maps look AMAZING. I mean looking at Amnytas especially, I think it's just as good as the other games I've seen last year

[@Nellyaa]

@@mittenvonscrufflears7233 Oh to be clear I wasn't saying the work they did was bad (far from it), just that we get less and less in the same timespan which means they either fired a lot of devs (= less resources to develop new things) or the majority of their work force works on GW3 (or anything else). :)

[@Nellyaa]

​@@EmpyreanDreamer AI is very questionable at best, considering copyright etc. I expect quite some regulations to come that might overthrow any AI a studio might want to use in their workflow. I feel like it currently is not a safe bet to utilize it. There is some potential it speeds up some aspects of their work (concept art, grunt dev work, some story/lore) that they can use as a starting point to refine and correct. But if you want to deliver quality work you still have to rework everything any current AI puts out by a respective professional, making the time save smaller than most people think. AI has a lot of buzzwords around it. It's not the sentient almighty savior some people think it is.

[@DiMacky24]

GW3 has probably been in development since the release of End of Dragons if not earlier based on the slowdown in content. Would not be surprised to see a release in 3 year's time. Regarding Anet hiring lead roles. Leads frequently leave and need to be replaced and though internal promotions do happen, the preference of Anet is to bring in outside talent, since they don't want to remove a productive team member from their current role. Hiring a lead is not a sign they are building new teams.

[@Greyreal.]

Hopefully GW3 will have better writing. Would love to come back to the franchise.

[@moopliss]

currently on vacation, but this news is wild. i'm absolutely thrilled with the possibility of a fresh start with GW3, a game running on a brand new engine, we'll all get to relive those 2012 days again🙌 i myself have spent a good chunk of change in gw2 over the years, but i'm fine to start fresh with a few "hall of monuments" skins to carry over into gw3. all in all, i'll make a video myself with my own thoughts on this topic after my vacation, but quite exciting news regardless if GW3 is a confirmed🤔

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Will be excited to see it!

[@hardy83]

Whatever it is, I imagine they want it to be played on consoles too like FFXIV as that's a big market they can't tap into with GW1 OR GW2 and probably why they want to use Unreal Engine (though that could just be because using an existing good engine is cheaping and easier than making your own). Maybe even mobile, but I can't see them going the route of something like Genshin Impact. I suppose they could, even though something like Guild Wars 1 with a summonable henchmen system makes more sense on mobile to me. I'll support them regardless. I like ANet and this game is 5+ probably close to 6-8 years out unless they are doing something weird like porting GW2 to a new engine which I suppose is posisble, so GW2 will get at least 3-4 more mini-xpacs I imagine and honestly I don't care about other MMOs. lol I LIKE GW2s non-gear grind end game.

[@kaedriz]

Their using UE5 could be also due to NCSoft using it in their projects, i.e Throne & Liberty and others. They wouldn't be learning the engine from scratch. Additionally there is this new trend on using UE5 for future mmo due to it's easy optimization thanks to nanite/lumen and not sacrificing graphics in the process. But learning new engine, make internal tooling for it, workflows etc. will still take a lot of time, so I presume new game is maybe at best 2027 sadly, and even that is far fetched if they are creating everything from scratch.

[@josephisrael72]

I was waiting to see if you’d cover this

[@TheJanissary90]

Im just happy we find something to brainstorm about Guild Wars.We are too far away from Gw 3 but even theorizing about game will be fun.I personally want Gw 3 as 100 future of Gw 2 some races evolved to civilization and joined to forces of Tyria like Dominion of Wind open to world and made a pack with Lion's Arch ,Itzels start to come out from Maguuma jungle and helping their Hylek brotherens.So we got 2 more playable races.After Krait's defeat Quaggon create an Underwater Quaggon kingdom.And after years of neglection Old Gods of Tyria are returned.Also Just like Wow Arena net should create history of Tyria .How this world created?By Whom?What is origins of races?History of a game important especially in this media habitat where Video game media start to ramp up.

[@jeremywright9511]

If the possible guild wars 3 does happen, if they differentiate it enough from 2 I think the games can co-exist well enough without gw2 essentially dying. Gw2 has a lot of evergreen content, so even if they greatly reduced the update cadence as a result, the game would still have much to offer especially for someone new. Heck I just started gw1 last month.

[@michaelcoffey1991]

@Wooden Potatoes so glad to have gotten this news from Kroof and now you. This made me smile in a big big way probably bigger then I have since the passing of my wife 2 years ago. I can only hope with your coverage over it they put the same care, time, and love they did into Gw and Gw2. This made my month

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Hope you're doing OK man!

[@michaelcoffey1991]

@@WoodenPotatoes Day by Day Sir the best part of me died when she did 2 years ago (wife) now it is about moving on for her. Many Thanks for the reply

[@shimapanzer9930]

We'd love to have you back in gw2 while we wait for future news on gw3!

[@michaelcoffey1991]

@@shimapanzer9930 Thank you I don't see myself ever having enough money for a laptop but if I did it would be the first game Id buy. Best wishes

[@Guugnaakkeli]

I don't really know what happened to some gamers, maybe it's that we have been given too much too fast. Back in the days you played Super Mario and we were really happy about it. Now we have these massive games with great story lines and play mechanics etc. and so many gamers are thinking that no, this is not enough! I loved GW1 and I love GW2, sure it has its up's and downs, but still. These games has given me so many good moments and I don't know any other game that has achieved to do that. I just play purely enjoyment of this game. Enjoy your games, enjoy your life and try to see what you have right now. Boomer out.

[@randomdog4867]

[@Einulf_]

I would superlike your comment if it was possible. I agree so much

[@australienski6687]

We also had Mario 2 and 3. Change is inevitable.

[@Evenaardez]

I feel that for most games, except mmorpgs because of how much time you typically sink into them and if the game goes down you can never play again.

[@Jbt102qwerty]

With that thought, we would never have progressed from gw1. That the beauty in the process. Appreciate what you have now but always look forward towards new and exciting things. Overall gw3 is inevitable for ANet to stay in the game.

[@regendo]

Putting aside the issue of abandoning 10+ years of account progress, there's much opportunity in wiping the slate clean. I'm sure that if presented with a clean slate, ArenaNet would design a much better game that avoids many of the issues GW2 launched with or accumulated over the years, that are too deep to go back and fix. But I've no confidence that ArenaNet's views on design and lack of patience for sticking with established design has changed, and that's ultimately what caused many of these issues. As for account progress, GW1 barely had any so I don't think that comparison really helps. The better comparison is to people leaving GW2 and starting a fresh account in another game. I just returned from a ~3 year break since Champions and I never missed the combat, the story, the characters, the builds, anything like that. Well, perhaps the mounts. But as pathetic as it sounds, I did miss my account progression. Relics? Never heard of it. I'll get a free legendary one for logging in? Now that's intriguing!

[@whyisthisathingnow...]

You have so much faith in them. I hope they are closer to your idealistic views than my pessimistic ones 😅

[@Frezo20]

I do wonder if this is a case of miscommunication? Could the original person be talking about the upcoming expansions, but that got confused with a sequel to the upper suits who actually went to the investors meeting?

[@mikali1704]

no

[@Frezo20]

@@mikali1704 I'm curious why you are so adamant about that. Crazier things have happened at investor meetings.

[@noobs12332]

No, There are 2 korean artcle about it and they said it

[@robertzink4943]

You are not gonna get any new players with gw2 expansions, also throne and liberty flopped. The safest bet for ncsoft in the west would bei GW3, since GW2 already has an OK playerbase that pulls in enough money for them.

[@Frezo20]

@@noobs12332 All I'm saying is that what the person talking at the investors meeting and what the developers are doing may not be the same thing. If somebody in the games industry says something to an individual outside of the game's industry, or who only has a business-minded approach to the gaming industry, information that is given may not be properly or accurately conveyed, especially to people that may not have any idea about the development process.

[@SmallFOV]

As someone with a ton of time and money spent on GW2 since launch, I'm pretty excited at the idea of getting a new game. Yes, losing all the progress to start over can feel bad, but on the other hand, having a soft end-point to grind toward is, personally, more motivating to get me to log in, as I've been starting to feel like Arenanet is reaching their limit of gameplay creativity in GW2. No way I'd stick around for another ten years of collecting orbs and every map being designed around skyscales lol. Story-wise, I really haven't connected with much since Bjora Marches and Drizzlewood, so I'm very much looking forward to a hard reset of a brand new story in this setting. I hope NCsoft didn't damage GW2 too much by saying this, however. I can see a lot of people avoiding new expansions or new players not installing because of the, "why spend money on this when it's going to be abandoned for a sequel," thoughts.

[@sorryyourenotawinner2506]

hahahaha xddddddddddddddddddddd

[@alexjedi13]

I'm excited for a Guild Wars 3 same as I was excited for a Guild Wars 2. It's notorious how hard it is to develop and add certain things in GW2 due to spaghetti code and how old the engine is so for this reason alone I think getting a GW3 is exciting. Now I certainly understand people feeling their game is getting abandoned and all the worries that come with it, I lived those to an extent with GW1 when 2 was announced but 17 years later and I still play GW semi-regularly along with GW2. Sure we might not get new stuff but the game is still here and even though the community has considerably shrunk there is still a die hard core fanbase that keeps the game alive. Now granted GW2 is structured very differently and they'd have to get pretty creative to make GW2 playable mostly solo like GW1 is now due to world events, no henchmen or heroes for instanced content, etc... In that same breath though in the last extra-life stream Arenanet did, Colin (I think) mentionned how stopping development on GW1 was a mistake as the two games are so different they could have coexisted and continued development on both... Maybe they learned from their mistakes and will do just that with 2 and 3, even if content for 2 would probably be smaller in scope. Heck I'm getting into hopium territory now but imagine if they also released a GW1 remake, we could have all 3 games running at the same time with different takes on gameplay and the world of Tyria.

[@sorryyourenotawinner2506]

pathetic

[@traveling.down.the.road56]

If GW3 was a remake of the original GW, then wouldn’t that be the end of the original game? I mean if they are essentially the same, but built on a new game engine, why would anyone still want to play the original Guild Wars?

[@wafflingmean4477]

I would love some RPG style games set in Tyria. It is such a rich setting that quite frankly is often limited by its aversion to a traditional questing approach. I understand that GW2 is built around Events and they work well for what GW2 aims to do, but the janky AP pseudo questing system is evidence enough that even Arenanet is craving more. A standard RPG in Tyria, built in Unreal Engine and so much more accessible to some of their newer talent would perfectly complement GW2. It would expand the GW community with a large portion of GW2's playerbase ready to jump in and once people finish that game and crave more, where do they go? GW2, which both helps player numbers and aids Arenanet massively because ultimately an MMO will always be more monetisable than a single player RPG.

[@Julietmateus]

Part of me really wants a GW3 but I know it won't be anything like GW1 despite that being a huge open niche in the market that they could exploit. We see the success of PoE, which is a spiritual successor to D2 and GW1 (currency, skill system, town system, and netcode all taken from GW1 according to Chris), and the failure of D4 and stagnancy of Lost Ark-- that section of the market is extremely open to a modern GW1 take.

[@CakeMelons]

As someone who's done with GW2 i suppose i could view it as good news, but. I have about zero faith in AN and in western triple A in general as of late, so realistically i do not expect anything good to come out of that.

[@noctoi]

I'd be all over GW3, and so would my partner. We dropped GW2 after about the 4th 'expansion' season. It just got too zerg oriented for casual players. I'd love a new instalment to the franchise. Something where we can start fresh 'with everyone else', and enjoy the new experiences with a modern engine. Yes it always feels like "wasted time" when you leave a game... but I'd prefer to start a new game than constantly getting nostalgic, coming back, then realising why I left again in an endless cycle.

[@Zedris]

I would think what arena net is to import gw2 basically to a new version of the engine and add a big expansion and call it gw3 for improved engine gameplay and what ever else is needed instead of scrapping everything they built

[@Desmondesmond]

yea like the overwatch

[@Bread_Pirate_Ryeberts]

I have had a few private discussions with Anet devs about this in the past. Understandably they were a bit vague with me, so take this with a grain of salt: The impression I get is that they have been working on a successor to GW2 for a very long time, but that there has been a history of scrapping and restarting the project repeatedly in a chase for perfection - and that this may have been part of why they experienced the big layoffs a couple years ago. Assuming any of that is true, this "announcement" doesn't really feel like news at all - more of a "yes, investors, this studio is working on their next thing rather than stagnating" throwaway - and "working on" is a far cry from "releasing", in any case. I wouldn't lend it any weight until we hear something more definitive.

[@EudokiaMilicent]

This might become a really interesting story for video game historians in a few years I guess. At least I would love to watch a retrospective on the series with more behind-the-scenes anecdotes and sources.

[@AnalogX64]

the chase for perfection is what delayed "Duke Nukem Forever" for so many years, everytime there was a new game mechanic out with other titles they wanted to included it, which was to the detriment of the game and its release.

[@GBEWgw2]

No you have not talked to the devs like this. I don't believe you at all. Not in the slightest.

[@kadethesage894]

Source: trust me bro

[@LLPTV]

excuse me who the fck are you

[@Techstriker1]

My concern over GW3 is that I prefer the art and writing styles of GW1, and hate where GW2 has wound up (Loved the early years when it was still more GW1 themed). Would GW3 break free of the mess GW2 has become? Or just continue with its mess of a story and blindingly gaudy color scheme? (I honestly just want to leave Tyria behind now with badly GW2's story has gone)

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Yeah... I feel largely similar.

[@GuriGashi_]

HUGEEEEE NEWS!!! Even our future kids will be able to enjoy the Guild Wars franchise

[@BigBammer]

Sick! Now I just need to find someone to have a kid with 😅😂

[@ctg4818]

But they will need to pay for the battle pass and loot boxes! lol

[@whyisthisathingnow...]

Probably wouldn't let my kids play it tbh 😂

[@c.j.shotgunangel8905]

Calm down your hype . Didnt you learn anything about video games in the last few years? Cool but calm down

[@Natejameslewis]

I want GW3 to be another MMO purely to try and recreate that 1 week of launch GW2 I spent every day just exploring Tyria, won't be quite as blind this time (unless they do a whole new continent) but it'll be cool.

[@frechesferkel2749]

This would be a huge drop into player financial investment in gw2. Nobody will spend money in a game that will be dead soon.

[@recon_ik]

Great takes. I agree with everything except the slight apprehensiveness towards making another MMO as GW2 is out. From my own interactions with others and the general sentiment from the internet, I think there is still a big desire for a nice high quality MMO. My friends and I have all stopped playing GW2 for a variety of reasons, yet every other MMO we try is not as smooth, rewarding, or as classy as Guild Wars. Crappy MMOs come out every year and die just as fast, and massive companies have tried forcing MMOs that just have no soul to them. I think the tech and gameplay they've designed for Guild Wars is a pretty perfect balance, just the game is old and bloated with conflicting content and ideas now. Fresh start please! (also, no flame, but their story has been trash for like a decade now)

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Honestly my commentary here isn't very accurate to how I really feel, I'm much more "pro" than "con" for this and the commentary kinda feels otherwise often.

[@Avenrise]

1) I'm not too sure we should be taking this as a mistaken announcement, more 'rough plans for the future' and in that respect did we doubt GW3 was going to happen EVENTUALLY? 2) I'm convinced the project they're currently working on is not GW3. Makes sense to work on a different MMO (Horizon is bookies fav) then invest that money and expertise in GW3 5-7 years down the line. I think GW2 is here for the foreseeable. 3) ANET do need to get ahead of this, this story has already taken off at rocket's pace. 4) I'm all in no matter what. ANET as a company have shown me over the years that whatever they work on is worthy of my time. Looking forward to ANY announcement to be frank.

[@Phank]

I got downvoted on Reddit just recently for stating Guild Wars 3 should/could already be in development, and now look at us. I've played Guild Wars since Prophecies, and have been on and off playing since GW2 launch. The game is good. The story, albeit cheesy and making some upsetting choices (#SaveEir), is good. The Lore is amazing. The world is beautiful. So why are people so hard against Guild Wars 3, letting the developers expand their tools, their art, and the games development. The engine has limitations, to say the least. From CPU limitations, to graphical ones. Although Guild Wars 2 is beautiful, from Cantha to Kryta, From Elona to the Northern reaches, it's only beautiful because of the Art Team. They are quite visibly held back. Other MMOs, and yes we must look to it's competition, are getting Graphical updates. And although I will be the first to admit "Graphics don't make the game", it does have a factor. And when your game looks dated (yet beautiful), and other games also look beautiful (but not as dated), people are drawn to the shinier thing. Guild Wars 2 has been slowly adjusting to maintenance mode for a while now, and the yearly expansions sort of lead towards it. It honestly feels like they introduce new content just to abandon it. Dungeons, Raids, etc. With Secrets, and the new expansions coming this year and next, we very well could be looking at a trilogy that leads up to a Guild Wars 3, or announcement. My Guess is that they'll announce Guild Wars 3 after the next expansion, and the final expansion will be that "bridge" for us, which then leads to Guild Wars 3 in 2026/2027. No matter how you cut it. The Devs probably don't want to work on an "upgraded" Guild Wars 1 engine anymore, and with UE5 and it's forward compatibility is probably very intriguing to them, let alone the tools for graphics, lighting, shading, rendering, sound design, etc... The list goes on. I think we'll see adjustments to allow Guild Wars 2 events, and such to be completed with smaller groups over the coming years, and then we'll slowly transition into Guild Wars 3.

[@Cameron_David_]

WP Its not just Anet but MMO player mindset to abandon the older game as there is no point in grinding for something with no future. As someone who just grinded out obsidian armor I feel like it was kind of pointless. I will still likely play the future story content but many other players on the fence will not buy the expansions or bother with any type of repeatable content.

[@eskey691]

It was all said in one of Anet posts sometime back about how updates will be done going forward and how the GW3 would use the same sort of thing. Am sure that's were i had seen a mention of GW3 in the past.

[@Spojo1]

Guild Wars 2 will never grow enough to be worth continuing at this point. Trying again with a modern mmo is honestly the best chance they have of actually capturing a larger audience.

[@emikochan13]

how big does it need to be? nobody has any issue making a group for any content in the game. The population is solid for the production costs. If they just fixed the lfg the game would be operating perfectly

[@Spojo1]

@@emikochan13 is it really making enough money to offset the deficit from past development costs and company reshuffles? Because based on the investor meeting it's not. A company is not going to continue to run something with a small profit margin. They will always seek growth.

[@traveling.down.the.road56]

@@Spojo1 Rumor has it that Anet is the only NCSOFT company in the West that is currently profitable, and all of the others are dragging down the profits and making investors angry. This might be why the NCSOFT corporate executive that leaked this info mentioned GW3, as a way to placate the other investors and give them something to hope for in the future.

[@tomia89]

i have invested so much time, and money at this point to gw2, that is would be hard to pull me in for next game without losing everything, skin, and amount of content wise

[@amyt2035]

They'd likely implement another Hall of Monuments system so you'd still get rewards for your gw2 progress. I get lots of people would find it hard at first but I really think we should just rip the bandaid off and embrace gw3 if it ever comes because it would be so healthy for the game. I know so many people who no longer play gw2 because it's very dated, and I can't get any of my friends to start playing gw2 with me because the graphics look so old that they feel the game will die soon and it just doesn't feel good/immersive to be in the world when it looks so bad and there's also so many bugs with the spaghetti code at this point. It would bring so much new interest and relevance to have a more modern guild wars game. And gw2 would still be there for people who are total diehard gw2 fans - quite a number of people still play gw1 (I know because I also play it from time to time).

[@naryktaryk225]

I feel like the current situation is horrible, gw2 gets cuts all over it and other projects are hidden and possibly can end in similar way some of other projects ended around the end of season 4. I love gw2 and would prefer if it was anet main focus (even 100% or 99%), but if it is not possible it would be better for gw2 to end and they 100% focus something new if they belive it could and would be better. Look what all the cuting did to the story if long term fans are more interested in complaining that 'key story npc sounds like quaguan' then in the actual story. (I personaly dont get that but i am player that is happy to spend hours to find all the random notes all over the map and whats to hear/read all the map dialog too)

[@arkanaloth2617]

ohh I'm nearly certain this announcement was an "oops", some high up said too much.

[@sergiohidalgo5516]

And maybe his shoulders are missing a head right now, if thats the case :P

[@DannyCondra]

So many games that get labeled "in development" or "greenlit" never see the light of day. It seems to me that a lot of unfounded presumptions are being made about something that may never happen or, even if it does, could be up to a decade away.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Good point as well!!!!!!

[@nikidelvalle]

I'm going to be optimistic about a Guild Wars 3. I think with Guild Wars 2's current level of income, it can never sustain the amount of content necessary for it to compete. The lack of group content is primarily what keeps it from being my main game. With a launch playerbase and everything they've learned while developing Guild Wars 2, maybe my favorite game and my main game can finally be the same?

[@Flupperz]

As someone who has spent a lot of money on their account over the years and has stepped away from the game for a long time, the news of a new game does excite me. As much as I love the current game, it is starting to feel dated as time goes on.

[@_M....]

It's starting to feel pointless to play at all.

[@Sayako-sf2bn]

@@_M.... Nobody is forced to shop there.

[@traveling.down.the.road56]

@@_M.... I’m also feeling less motivated to play GW2 lately, but it’s not because of any problems with the game, it’s just because I’m tired of playing solo and I haven’t found a guild that has players who prefer to play together. So I’ll keep logging in a few times a week and see if I can find players that enjoy playing together, while I wait for an eventual release of GW3.

[@FunkiestChickenlawl]

This is my first time finding your channel, and holy hell I did not expect to hear LBA 2 music in the end card. You are really a man of culture if you've played that game. As for GW3, if it really is coming out, I hope they don't do a sequel. Like you said, just going off of their own track record and the state of "AAA gaming" they probably won't do it justice. I'll still always enjoy this game, there really is no other MMO out there that values your time more than GW2.

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Hah nice! Always a pleasure when someone instantly knows the music! Pretty rare too.

[@zenith110]

This is the news that brings me back

[@hadi_SooT]

bring you back? they didn't even start the project and if they do not near 6 or 7 years to release.. bring me back lool

[@zenith110]

@@hadi_SooT to the channel my guy. I haven't played GW2 in almost a year.

[@andreasahman5596]

Would love this so much! Fingers crossed!

[@dcat5817]

Oh gosh i hope this is true! Played gw2 since launch and will have zero issues leaving for a new adventure!

[@JohnSmithJane]

Thank you WP. I dont frequent the reddit anymore, so the only way I see major gw2 news is if youtube puts you in my recommended

[@WoodenPotatoes]

No prob man

[@MyuNeptune]

I'd rather have them rework gw2 the way Blizzard done with WoW. I put lots of time and money and i still think the game is mechanically capable of running for more years. At same time...entering new games always feel refreshing and fun. Maybe I shouldn't even worry about gw2, because I dropped off hard when the mess after Icebrood Saga discouraged me to play and have hard time getting back in ever since. I mean.. I don't expect the game to come out anytime soon anyways...I guess we will have to wait and see.

[@letsplayDROD]

The thing is, didn't they just very recently talk about doing that exact same thing? Updating gw2's engine to show that gw2 was their focus for years going forward? LW and no expacs Into expacs into SAGAS Into another expansion Into mini expacs and gw2 is a focus long-term Into gw3 LOL I have zero confidence in the direction of this company. Every couple months it's a complete reorganization.

[@Kuhazan]

It is too early for this info to be floating out there. It will hurt numbers for GW2 because "why get invested? My progress will be lost when GW3 comes out.

[@rgarrow87]

I understand that nothing lasts forever, not even MMOs, but at this stage in my life I don't have it in me to get invested in another MMO, if GW3 happens I probably won't buy it.

[@ozirus3344]

If legendaries carry over I’m fine with it. I just don’t want years of work to go to waste. Would be interesting if our characters actually just got ported over and it’s really just a straight upgrade

[@mikali1704]

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[@WordsOfTheTeacher]

Yeah GW2 is my forever home! If they rip it away from me and kill it to make me start all over again I’ll just leave. Why start over, spend years and thousands of dollars again, when the very action of doing that proves they will do it to us again? That GW3 also will not last and it will be killed someday against our will? That’s why I hate needless sequels to live service games

[@WordsOfTheTeacher]

@@ozirus3344 An upgrade I'd be open to, anything that's not just a straight up kill of what we know and love. Why should I invest in a game that killed the one I loved when its very existence is proof it will happen again to that game someday?

[@jsedge2473]

@@WordsOfTheTeacherThey did the same thing with GW1. This is their M.O. I havent played any MMOs (really any games) after GW1 and the release of GW2 because of this. For one, GW1 was one of a kind (and GW2 is too, even though I never got in to it). But also, kinda hard to justify putting thousands of hours in to a game for a studio that repeatedly kills it's games overnight.

[@bunchups413]

I miss WP! Former Gw1 & 2 player here. Ty for the video and analysis.

[@bunchups413]

I think anet and gw need a gw 3. Something modern. The story beats from 1 were sooo good.

[@Zekent]

My bet is: We haven't heard almost anything about Colin Johanson since he came back in 2021, he's working on a different project, and it's probably GW3

[@kelleren4840]

Honestly I feel like your achievement points/etc. could and maybe should transfer into GW3. Like it would be a monumental development challenge, but imagine if all your skins, legos, mounts, etc. transferred with you, but the game engine, story, time frame, etc. were all new? Maybe even set up all GW2 cosmetics, mounts, etc. as GW2 exclusives, so you need to play GW2 to have them in GW3? Don't get me wrong, I can see major issues with that, but there's potential there for a pretty awesome synergy between 2 and 3 where players want to go back and play 2 in order to unlock important/fun things in 3.

[@gronkhfp]

I don’t want a GW3 I want a GW2 with better optimization and a frequent good content schedule maybe with a little better graphics although IMO GW2 art style is fantastic. Why releasing a new game , when the core problem is that they don’t advertize the game properly?

[@jsedge2473]

This is gonna be a re-do of what they did with GW1. I don't even know why they call it Guild Wars any more when each game is nothing like the prior besides being in the same world but Anet feels like they constantly have to make these massive changes. This feels EXACTLY like the new of GW2 when we were all playing GW1. The second it's confirmed, a ton of people will quit GW2, because people will feel like it's pointless. People seem to be forgetting that there have been rumors of them working on GW3 for, at least, 5 years now. I wouldn't be surprised if they're deeper in than people expect.

[@missk1697]

No. The core problem is outdated engine, spaghetti code, bloat of abandoned features and possibilities being limited with all of that.

[@_M....]

GW2 has run it's course, time for a new game.

[@sallee132]

@@jsedge2473 I quit Gw2 cause i have nothing to do anymore there. I don't even need gold anymore.

[@Sayako-sf2bn]

@@_M.... I love this game. But i dont shop in gem Store. It's your own fault if you do it with real money and complain now. But you actually know that if you're an MMO lover.

[@DocM94]

I think you said it perfectly, Gw3 and Gw2 could co-exist, but nobody has confidence this will be the case because of the history with Gw1, so everyone assumes Gw3=death of Gw2. Personally, i think that starting fresh in a new mmo is always a cool experience and if that means losing years of progress, so be it. But i can't say this doesn't leave a bad taste in my mouth, because i truly think that Gw2 could have been improved and developed for many more years, but instead with this move the studio pretty much shows they don't really have faith in their product.

[@australienski6687]

GW1 still exists and you can still play it.

[@DocM94]

@@australienski6687 Oh i know. I've started playing it quite recently for the first time and i'm having a ton of fun. But you can't deny that the population is pretty small and the game stopped getting any meaningful update since the gw2 release. That's what everyone fear is, that history is going to repeat and gw2 will suffer the same fate.

[@australienski6687]

@@DocM94 Yeah many people fear change. Personally I don't want to be stuck playing this 12 year old game forever because it's the only MMO worth playing.

[@DieDarnIt]

Ncsoft is at a deficit because they are making games that are highly p2w creating an awful image of the company as being greedy and untrustworthy as a company to make a good game based on content and catering to its customers. I Can't count how many games they have made that start off decent, devolve into p2w and eventually gets shut down.

[@jsedge2473]

Literally every single game they've ever made. Besides GW1.

[@Somebody374-bv8cd]

It's NCsoft west that's at a deficit. I.e., anet This means despite the increased playerbase they aren't drawing in enough money to please that shareholder who asked the question.

[@Uaitdevil]

now that i think about it, when was the last time we saw the actual "big bosses" of gw2? if the game is being developed, i think it was around EoD launch that the "main team" went on something else, and that would explain the cut post content of EoD and the shift on the mini expansions style [that is good, but still feel like "maintenance mode" like it felt like the icebrood saga]. as someone who play since headstart, i'm actually ok with a new game, IF they follow the same business method, because i changed rig like 4 times since launch, and the engine still make me feel like i'm playing something that i can't run well. I'd be ok with the same style as gw2, literally with another story and developed in unreal engine, or even better, a combo style between gw2 and gw1

[@AlexValliMusic]

This just tantalizes my intrigue!

[@MusPuiDiTe]

I'll wait for ANet clarification (if it comes) before making assumptions, but I don't think it will be announced before having a trailer or at least a full list of what brings to the table to be different/better than Guild Wars 2: confirming it before having these will probably destroy the current playerbase...

[@johnypanta6208]

I don't want a Guild Wars 3. I want the world we have to be expanded and updated. The SotO storyline showed us that we know nothing about the potential awaiting for us out there. There are so much to be explored!!!!

[@DemethVLK]

I'm so torned about this. On one hand, I planned to play gw2 even in my retirement home in 30 years, on the other, the perspective of 2030 quality for my favorite franchise is...mindblowing. And especially if they took notes of what works and what doesn't from GW2. But I don't want to lose everything I built and I'm less excited to buy new stuff now :/ I'm glad to hear you on this because you always have the most thoughtful opinions. Also, WHEN WILL IT TAKE PLACE?! In the future? Technology will take over, either asura or jade tech. Past? Maybe, but knowing all that will happen.. Maybe during the Guild wars? And what about other races? Maybe previous ED rising? Or a different location on the planet. Whole New Continents, but How would you explain all elder Dragon are from GW2'S side of the world.. Latest expansion showed us there are lands far east.. Maybe that's something possible. On a completely unrelated matter, the background music is a bit too loud I think. Luv you WP, hope you'll be the hero we all love even in GW3 (damn that feels weird to write)

[@Matoro342]

I have to say, the shareholders should try playing the game and looking around at the forums and such. People have always had gripes about the game, but lately with balance changes I think they are basically on autopilot till GW3, but I am not interested in it if it's made by the same people who don't do very well by their current audience.

[@naircat]

"youve already been living through them doing less" 😂 bro i know when the first, really every, xpac had like 4 maps. compare that to something like factions or nightfall....jesus

[@WoodenPotatoes]

Yeah hah. Or LWS1 let's be honest was obviously the first time they were split on their other projects.

[@OscarAndresPabonEstrella]

It is quite stupid to think about a version 3 of guildwars when they are not even capable to create a decent expansion. To me if they create a gw3 will look more like black desert , and probably will fail as black desert did.

[@LeiosLabs]

I'm excited! Don't forget that the person presenting this information was not the actual CEO, but another director. They might not have really known much of the Guild Wars project except that it is relatively successful and that they are planning another game set in Tyria. They just happened to call it "Guild Wars 3" because the actual name was not announced. Also, like... Is GW3 such a bad idea? I would probably buy a GW3, but probably won't buy another GW2 expac. I feel like most "outsiders" are probably the same.

[@DragonicTerror]

I think GW3 will be either 20 or 25 year anniversary which gives t hem 3-8 years depending on how far they are. The main issue I see now vs later is cost evaluation. Anyone who takes this to heart will want to not spend more for yearly expacs in fear of it dropping.

[@MorDreadful]

IF trhey are making a GW3, then they would account link like they did for GW and GW2 and any legendaries would be transfered no doubt as they did with armours etc from GW to GW2. This still means that for instance, to get ALL the pets in GW2, if I remember rightly, 4 are only obtainable in GW. Imo? I wouldn't say it means abandoning your GW2 account as they would, I am sure, make it worhwhile doing all of them in some way if you want to and so can still get Legendaries etc, that could appear in some way in the next so negating the need to abandon GW2. HoM was part of the linking and even in the Achievements (HoM under General). I wouldn't worry everyone, you do not have to abandon GHW2 at all due to the above for a "GW3" if there will be one (probably will be), hence why there is still a following in GW as they are linked but just different eras. Like an ancestor character to the new ones, which I think it was supposed to be. It will be a while anyway and yes, this does create a new scenario, another 250 years jump or more with new tech? Please don't worry about the money you have spent in GW2, like GW, the stories are very much linked, tied together and far too much loved to not keep them running.

[@TirOrah]

I understand this must cause feelings, but it's really much too early to tell anything. There's no telling if this new Guild Wars IP game will even be *called* Guild Wars 3. For all we know it's a placeholder name or a project name, or even just shorthand. My thoughts? As a GW1 player, I hope our game will stay up if/when this one comes to pass. Priorities!

[@RyuDouro]

Gw3 will be released after WoW2 and Final Fantasy 9000 release.

[@Sunari]

Sounds more like they’re talking about the consolidation of their west studios. I’d be intrigued by a GW3 and where they’d want to go with it - like what kind of time jump are we looking at and what’s happened in the world since. Which races would be playable (could bring in tengu, but I don’t want to lose charr). I’d also be interested if that’s just how they’re referring to a visual update (would be interesting timing since Final Fantasy 14 is currently doing one). I’d also be interested if it wasn’t an MMO but still uses the world. Overall though without proper information I find it hard to get too excited or panicked. I still enjoy GW2 and the slew of characters I’ve made there, and I’ve still got plenty of projects to work on since I’m not super fast either. Just finished two legendaries yesterday and still kind of eyeing the obsidian armor. My guild also still does guild missions weekly so it’s fun to join in on those and contribute.

[@JPsyches]

The idea of gw3 to me sounds kinda awesome, the story leading into the next game with a hall of legends kinda mechanic 1-2 years leading up to it would be pretty fun.

[@felipedroppelmann1565]

My main issue. Is this is a corpo move that is going to force anet to speak. Because now the community is slip 2 "why spend more time in the game if the game is going to "shutdown". And the other side "yeah new game! Personally i am in the side that some progression should be carried to a sequel. And live servers games should be improve over times and rehauled more than force their end.

[@Sandroxyz]

it will blow over. gamers have short memory

[@Justaguywithglassesok]

not when it comes to a sequel, shit will be talked about till they say there will be no gw3@@Sandroxyz

[@LetiferTV]

@@JustaguywithglassesokIf there wasn't GW3 before it was talked to shareholders, there will be now.

[@redrenji6144]

Only way to make me excited is if this is a major update/overhaul to GW2, not really fond of ditching the gw2 foundation

[@ragekage7790]

this seriously

[@missk1697]

Sunk cost fallacy, you've spent a lot of time and money in game so the very idea of anet just moving on to a newer, better title just seems scary.

[@bigvisk1125]

guild wars 2 is so huge, it would be cool if a new game was guild wars 2.5, the originally game ported to a new engine with better tools and a nice new expansion pack. seems like there is so much content in gw2 they should try to find a way to incorporate all that content. either way any gw3 is many many years away

[@mattjvr6189]

I'm all for a GW3, I'm just not sure if an MMO is the best idea given the current state of the genre as a whole.

[@akoyisangpinoy4705]

you want all games to be single player ?? that sux... 90% of games are solo .. and I'm not a fan of moba & fps games. I want an rpg where we can play with others

[@mattjvr6189]

@@akoyisangpinoy4705 not at all, I love multi player games, but you don't have to look hard to see that very few MMOs have been successful in the past decade.

[@dantepeterson556]

Also, like you touched on, internal code names for games is common. GW3 could just mean a new business model for what is already here such as mini-xpacs.

[@njorun1829]

Definitely a mixed bag.

[@gamingchef7678]

I would be curious where we all would start map and zone in gw3. There are so many more maps and zones we still haven't been too yet in gw2.

[@ubesaaa]

I'd love a modernized experience of GW2. I'm super down for GW3

[@okbuddykormir]

You're assuming GW3 would have anything to do with GW2, which is a fatal mistake knowing Anet.

[@ubesaaa]

@@okbuddykormir idk, just want better graphics and a new area to explore:)

[@Savoritas]

If a Guildwars 3 is coming.. I want Anet to bring companions to GW2 and with that make most of the content playable by just a few people or even alone.

[@traveling.down.the.road56]

If you want to play by yourself, there’s lots of RPG games available for that, but don’t try to change GW2, or GW3 into something different than the MMORPG that it is.

[@Savoritas]

@@traveling.down.the.road56 If GW3 happens and its a seperate new game, then GW2 will die out because they'll likely cut support since they wouldn't want the two games to cannibalize each other. I just want them to make the game playable with low player numbers, similar to what happened with swtor. Obviously, this only applies if GW3 is supposed to be a replacement for GW2.

[@vincentpernet4838]

was just checking a article about this! amazing timing

[@templarcrow6577]

i was here since launch pre-hot and it was an incredible time

[@graven2002]

I'm surprised you didn't mention Colin's comments about regretting not supporting GW1 and GW2 at the same time. If the studio head took this as a lesson learned, then there is a good chance GW3 will be significantly different from GW2 and Anet will look to support both at the same time.

[@jordanmorris1599]

Guild Wars 3 would be great! People worried about their achievements not carrying over or carrying any weight is not really something to worry about. Your achievements from GW1 contributes to GW2 exclusives. I love GW2, but it's been pretty ''Meh'' since Path of Fire ended.

[@ItIsMeJamesE]

I would rather more updates to 2 ...

[@klavakkhazga3996]

I think this last expac/update must have been rough. We went to a whole new part of the setting, whole new characters and races, left behind all the baggage from the dragon story - And it still feels repetitive and the same, only everything's grey and red. I think this plan to move out of the dragon story probably did not work and they're looking for a more drastic reset. Which could also be sold as a GW3

[@vissarion69]

I am hyped for a new MMO from Arenanet, If one company can pull a good MMO is them. And I have over 44k AP and all legendaries and stuff and don't have a problem "losing" all that.

[@Autepify]

PLEEEEEAAAASSSEEEE i miss being extremely hyped during the entire development of GW2

[@EmpyreanDreamer]

My doomer take is that this is either translated wrong or saying "Guild Wars 3" was just not meant so literally or was referring to expansions and not communicated well. As a BDO player I can confirm google translate does not handle korean well. However there's always a chance and the optimistic side of me has some hope. The new expansion model is much less ambitious than what they were doing before and it doesn't even release with all of the features at launch. That could definitely be a sign of being strapped for resources because they're being diverted to something much bigger. If its true and they don't have anything substantial to show I doubt ArenaNet will respond to this. Also just throwing it out there but I don't think anyone in their right mind would bring this up in an investor meeting as sort of a silver lining to their financial situation unless the products release was imminent. Whether GW3 exists or not I think we can all agree it definitely isn't coming this year.

[@mojojojo123]

Man I really love your content, I really miss it I started GW2 following your channel. Such great critic point of view. Keep it up and hope they don't nuke GW2 after Im finally almost full legendary 😅

[@Rivelon]

I'd much rather have Guild Wars 1 Remake than Guild Wars 3

[@missk1697]

Nah, GW1 is already a dead horse, we need something new in the IP to bring in new players in large numbers.

[@ReadyDaddy]

@@missk1697 i just hope it won't go too far off in the future... im already kinda fed up with the jade golems, asuran golems and similar BS... hope the asuras don't appear again lol

[@whyisthisathingnow...]

​@@missk1697 mmos don't have the pull or popularity that they used to anymore. Most gamers play non mmo rpgs.

[@ReadyDaddy]

@@whyisthisathingnow... there ARE NO mmo rpgs do you understand that? xD every "new" mmo flops for some idiotic... i cant even call it mistake its an intentional flop...

[@ReadyDaddy]

@@whyisthisathingnow... the beat rpgs are the ones who exist for literal century. wow and gw still hold the top tier. final fantasy is ok too but its not your classic MMORPG. we are all dying to get a new fresh MMo where dwva are not mentally retarded and do everything contrary to what PB wants

[@pythonxz]

The obsession with UE5 is going to burn so many studios. I really hope Arenanet isn't one of them.

[@zirezerimar3725]

Also people sometimes forget how much time takes to make a game. Even if they already have the pre production done for Guild Wars 3, the game is at minimum 3 years from today if not 5

[@PastryGator]

9:30 I think it would be a fresh start for development too. Using a modern engine that is well-known and not proprietary and not having a ton of crappy legacy development tools to deal with on the in-house engine could help their production process/speed as well. 10:14 I feel this too. People are so wrapped up in their "investment" in something like this, you had fun didn't you? Does the ceasing of production of a game invalidate all the fun you had IN THE MOMENTS between then and now? It's such an unhealthy way to think about and relate to games that way.

[@Chocoboranger]

Good. Theres been technological advances in the last 10 years. Why hold the game back because of legacy choices? New game. Mounts as a core component build around. Better animations.. less sharding... actual RP support... What if they finally add Tengu after 10 years of being dicked around and teased? All the bullshit cash shop garbage won't make the game better.