Guitar or Piano? Why I wished I learned THIS instrument first

[@chris_tarroza]

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[@Oi-mj6dv]

Man as a guitsrrist myself i can just tell from the title. You are a guitar player who wished he started on piano hehe

[@chris_tarroza]

Lol guess you could smell the guitar on me through the screen

[@Oi-mj6dv]

Its the video premise itself, a pianist wouldnt do it like that heheheh

[@whisperscribe]

@@chris_tarroza I could too

[@w1o2l3f4i5e]

I agree. I have been playing the guitar for decades and I started on piano about 28 months ago. Mind you I learnt a lot of theory while learning the guitar.

[@chris_tarroza]

How did you find learning the piano after all those years on guitar?

[@w1o2l3f4i5e]

@@chris_tarroza The difficulty I have is transferring the music notation to the tips of my fingers. Sometimes I try to play the bass clef with my right hand (do you think that this is musical dyslexia😂)

[@sequel4]

best instrument to learn first is the one that gets you into learning music. Many people's first introduction into music is via their parents inducing them into the instrument readily available at home or via class, so most of the times, your choices are limited at the start whether you knew it or not. I think until you discover your appreciation of a certain instrument and your favorite genre of music, you'll then be interested in learning said instrument whether it be a piano, guitar, or even drums, sax etc. Motivation comes and goes and unless you're really enjoying the medium or instrument, your mileage may vary. However, all roads lead to Rome and understanding one instrument opens and elevates the ability to learn the other and you grow to appreciate your ability to transfer that skillset to the core of music theory.

[@chris_tarroza]

I can agree with this. I think learning an instrument has to, first and foremost, be fun. It has to be enjoyable. I know of many people who stopped playing "x" instrument because it just wasn't fun for them. Maybe bad teaching, maybe the wrong instrument, no structure, etc. Especially something like the guitar that physically hurts at first, people will give up on it if there are no ROE (return on enjoyment)

[@rodneylee4026]

I've been playing piano and drums most of my life and now starting guitar. I always wanted to play guitar and I'm finding it more enjoyable to play (acoustic) and more soothing to my ears. I also compose music and I'm finding that guitar allows more options for variety of rhythms and expressions.

[@LifeofWiks]

Interestingly enough, bar chords are infinitely more comfortable for my hand to play. Its so much easier for my finger to just lay across the whole fret than it is to stagger multiple fingers. I got little meat nubs on the tips of my fingers so squeezing them next to each other is very difficult without pushing them out to the next fret

[@hexdegen]

I've only played guitar for couple of years after learning as an adult. Then I got stuck because I don't know enough to improvise or be very creative. Learning and memorising songs from tab only gets you so far so I started studying music theory and thought it might be helpful to buy a keyboard. After just one day playing a keyboard I'm frustrated I didn't start earlier. It's so much easier to translate theory to practice on a keyboard and start playing reading notation. Also, if you buy an electric guitar you will spend thousands on effects modellers, pedals, different guitars, amplifiers, speaker cabs etc chasing some mythical perfect tone or perfect playing guitar that doesnt exist. Its just part of the experience.

[@klfdqjmqboiklnkq]

I know no one who owns five piano's. But I know many having more guitars than that. Not to mention amps and pedals the price of a single piano.

[@emiliocurbelo8891]

This! Besides piano being better for theory, guitar - and very specially electric guitar - is just a neverending gear & tone chasing. Over many years you end up spending almost the same as if you were playing piano from day 1

[@joseroberts6635]

Opposite here. Learned piano and played since i was 7. Recently picked up the guitar. Found the strings making different notes hard to grasp but understanding chord progression and rhythm and melody is second nature.

[@Anamnesis]

As someone with the inverse experience (more exposure and play time on piano from an early age) I've definitely concluded that playing guitar helps me be a better piano player, but playing piano doesn't make me a better guitar player. Guitar is definitely the more rewarding instrument because it's a struggle. It's not that piano isn't challenging, it's that guitar is its own kind of challenge. It's much more physically demanding, requiring a lot of dexterity and precision in the fingers that isn't necessary for piano. Guitar demands strong bilateral coordination, a bit like the "pat your head and rub a circle your stomach" trick that isn't easy to do. That sort of motor control where your hands are performing different actions isn't part of the piano experience because both hands just hit keys and the keys just make the correct sound 100% of the time, whereas on guitar, it's not making the right sound at all if your fingers are even slightly off. The expensive mechanisms inside the piano take care of the physically challenging task to make the instrument sound precise and predictable. That all becomes your responsibility on guitar, and it's not easy.

[@Mellowyellow8888]

one slight caveat to your "piano" is always in tune.. my relative went from violin to piano.. (when he was much older).. you struggle with finger strength.. I have one of my children in piano lessons right now.. shes quite young and one of the main thing beyond "playing" songs.. is to get them to strengthen the fingers... to play ie. trills.. piano requires alot more two handed coordination because either the right or left has to have correct timing.. I myself went from piano to violin.. at that point.. theory was a breeze.. all i needed to do is learn to press on the fingerboard... bowing requires proper technique.. so essentially.. I had to "learn" to play the instrument.. but never needed to really "learn" the music pieces as I played in a orchestra..

[@nik9470]

could you expand your statement that guitar helps you to play piano, but not vise versa?

[@cocoamaster9200]

@@nik9470 Piano is good isntrument in transposing you’re musical freedom and abilities because it is designed to be played intuitively. Press a key then you get your note. that’s why you’ll be more focused in playing your piece. In Guitar it’s a mechanically hard instrument to play. It’s very tactile, if you slack playing then you’ll notice it right away. You fret a string you get you’re note ringing too. but if you are a begginer you might fret too hard that the note will get slightly sharper or if you fret too light it would get choked out. That’s just one aspect of guitar playing. In guitar you should be more aware of unnecessary string noise that would ring out when you don’t mute strings properly, in piano if play a key accidentally it would straight ring out. Other aspect of guitar playing are the Vibrato, Slides, Bends, Pinch harmonics, Legato, Tapping, Sweep picking, Hybrid picking and a many more which this individual skills requires time and effort to master for years.

[@nik9470]

@@cocoamaster9200 I know, I'm mainly guitar player and just started piano, but you described the potential question like "why guitar is harder, than piano". And I asked something different. The Comment starter said that piano doesnt help him for his guitar playing, but.... Guitar playing helps him to play piano. Normaly I heared only "vise versa", so that piano helps playing guitar, but guitar doesnt help playing piano. And this is why I asked about this anomaly :)

[@praisefx7642]

Good points, I disagree if you know how music theory applies to the guitar the piano is like 20x easier to play, what you learn on the guitar can be transferred to the piano because the piano is very visual. But you can't necessarily transfer everything from the piano to guitar, unless you know the fretboard layout of the guitar.

[@Aeduo]

The moment you need to transpose a scale on the piano though, it's a nightmare. Guitar you just move your hand around or use one of a few different shapes, but piano it's a different shape for every root of every scale.

[@chris_tarroza]

This is true. It's easier to transpose in guitar, especially with a capo. The one thing about knowing just the shapes means you don't actually know what notes you're playing

[@communityband1]

Take the little bit of time it takes to learn to transpose and you will have a tool that works for all instruments, including guitar. It will also help you play by ear and compose. Digital pianos with convincing sound samples have their own cheat code - a transpose button. But learning to play in different keys by learning the notes that make them up is one of the fastest paths to increasing your music skill level multiple times over. When I learned guitar, I didn't have to look up any chords. I knew the notes they contained, so I could figure out different ways to play them on guitar. You memorize a tiny bit in the beginning to enable much less memorization going forward. Guitar holds people back by convincing them music theory is harder than it is.

[@marcs8325]

I have played guitar for a couple of years and suck at it. The piano still intrigues me. It seems easier to play and it's easier to understand.

[@Kevinschart]

Music theory is easier on the piano, but you can learn it just fine on the guitar. You will need to learn the notes on the fretboard and your intervals. As far as finding the notes its just something you have to practice. I know the nires with ease But after you've done that theory is easy to work with. You should learn what you want first. But any musician will find great value in learning even the tiniest bit of piano.

[@ezclutchgod4360]

Thank God my parents forced me to learn piano in my 3rd grade and then gifted me a guitar in my 8th grade.. personally i could learn myself many things in guitar since i knew the music theory through piano

[@lollol-it4nw]

For me it's been complete opposite. I've been playing the piano for a while. Almost a decade I think. I just recently got my 'first guitar' (I had one prior to this but that one was very old and was braking down). What you said about music theory is something that I fully agree with. I few years ago I didn't know it even existed but when I found out a whole new world opened up. Knowing why songs sound the way they do, how the songs sound good why they sound good. Chords, chord schemas. How to make stuff connect together or get the feeling you need in music. Research genres but on a deeper level then only the instruments. I will have to say that the piano is almost just made for theory. Music theory in a way can be mathematical. You'l have to cound a lot to make things get together. I also feel like the piano is more of a clasically trained instrument, more than the guitar maybe is but I could be wrong. Correct me if I am. I have been enjoying the guitar a lot recently. Trying to play a song without tabs is still very very hard since I don't know what notes are there on the threadboard unless I count to 10-20 every time. Though it's nice to play something different, something new to look at music from a different angle.

[@chris_tarroza]

I know very little music theory and even the little I know makes a difference. And, like you mentioned, it's so much easier on the piano. That said, I'll always love the guitar. Thanks for watching!

[@klfdqjmqboiklnkq]

Best way to be good at guitar: play piano and study harmony.

[@klfdqjmqboiklnkq]

I learned piano first and can translate a lot to guitar. Scales, chords, triads, inversions, arpeggios, modes... it's all layed on the piano but is much more obscure on guitar.

[@Oi-mj6dv]

Btw regarding fretboard visualization go check martin Miller it will expand your mind he has tons of lectured on this

[@chris_tarroza]

Oh I'll check him out. I have "tricks" to figure out notes on the fretboard but I wish I had it all memorized like I do the low E and A string.

[@antoniojoserunez4165]

Thank God I started both at the same time.

[@TomerShemesh]

7:41 Thank me later

[@granthiksharma4626]

I don't know man i wanted to get a guitar when i was a kid as its what the cool kids do. My dad didn't buy me that back then but he did by me a keyboard and harmonium to practice my vocal lessions. Now i have a guitar but when ever i wanna do music my hand only reaches for the keys. Its been 1 year and i still cant get around learning guitar. It feel so awkward. The shit is reversed there is no symmetry, always out of tune, have to re learn everything.

[@chris_tarroza]

I see what you mean. Piano is easier to learn because of the linear layout. I think it also depends on how you're taught piano. I can see classical training not transferring to guitar vs contemporary training. My one tip to anybody learning an instrument is to learn songs. Learn a song you like, it makes it more fun and motivates you to play more.

[@isaaclee5911]

Piano is easier to start witn for a beginner, however after 3 years of llaying piano, thats when it starts getting super hard, theres too much detail jn the piano sk piano is way harder to master but easier to start with

[@nothingnessxyzyx]

I started on piano. I already mastered the theory on piano. All I needed was to get used to playing guitar. Piano: It is easier at first and becomes harder later. Guitar: It is harder at first and becomes easier afterwards.

[@alexanderbernard2038]

I think this is so true

[@Mr.mikaelson]

Actually after this i dont know what tobuy as a complete beginner for me i love the piano’s sound more than a guitar and i can know that a piano is much easier but the point about the piano isn’t portable like the guitar its a big point for me so i still idk fr

[@KevinJohnMulligan]

Maybe get an electronic keyboard, they can be very portable.

[@rafaella9700]

Idk whatvit was but yea you somehow gave away that you play guitar first😂

[@taylorshareen2690]

hi , is that Midi controller good for learning piano ? or should I buy digital piano like Casio/ yamaha/ Roland 88 keys (weight )?

[@robinski3175]

last week I started both xD

[@jellyj8194]

How’s it going?

[@JackAkaJCK]

I learned in a Casio Tonebank MA120 It was really fun but now that i picked up Guitar i can actually Play Songs i know. Tell me a chord and i Play it on Keyboard but i dont really know many Keyboard parts of Songs i like whereas Guitar parts are usualy the Focus of the Kind of music i listen to (Brit-pop, Rock and Metal).

[@freakturner6757]

What about the soundings

[@cocoamaster9200]

I play piano for better understanding and visualization of theory. But guitar is very tactile instrument if you suck you suck

[@ronday4210]

They Suck 😅

[@nothingnessxyzyx]

I started on piano. I already mastered the theory on piano. All I needed was to get used to playing guitar. Piano: It is easier at first and becomes harder later. Guitar: It is harder at first and becomes easier at later