Guitar Pro 8 Tutorial - Audio Import & Sync Points - PERFECT Practice

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[@LeMosbi]

Hey Levi, great job explaining this feature ! There's one thing I should correct though regarding the import/export of sync points and tempo automations from the score to the audio track and vice versa, which is that while enabled, the audio track will actually always control the tempo of the playback despite the presence of tempo automations on the score. Which means, once you set up a bunch of sync points, you actually don't have to export them to the score as tempo automations (and then hide them all) to get a synced playback ! The "Create Sync Points from Score Tempos" entry allows you to import the already existing automations from your score into the audio track as a starting point for synching to be further adjusted (so that you also have the option to start the synching process from scratch). The "Create Score Tempos from Sync Points" can be useful when having an audio file that was played with a metronome and will only need a few sync points which will represent actual tempo changes that need to be indicated on your score rather than fluctuations due to interpretation or to a live setting. The "half way" solution is to transform sync points individually by right clicking on them -> "Transform to Score Tempo Automation". Lastly, you can temporarily chose to disable the audio track by using the switch on the top left of the window which will mute the audio file and give back the control of the tempo to the score. Happy syncing !

[@adamtremblett]

Thanks for the additional info, I was having trouble syncing audio to an existing transcription and the "Create Sync Points from Score Tempos" was just what I needed.

[@LeMosbi]

@@adamtremblett Glad I could help 👍

[@JGAbstract]

So create score tempo from sync points would be best for a situation where you have official guitar tabs Guitar Pro files and your dropping in the real song as an mp3 file? I just upgraded to be able to gp8 for the mp3 feature because I own some official GP tab books from sheet happens.

[@LeMosbi]

@@JGAbstract -That is correct !- Édit : oops my bad I read the opposite, you actually want Create Sync Points from Score Tempo since you already have the score containing the tempo information

[@AlexSchwartzBerlin]

thanks for the tutorial, mate -- really helps me and I tried it out and could really bring the audio in sync with the metal song I am subscribing right now 🤘

[@timsellsted521]

I am excited for this feature. Thanks for the quick explanation!

[@vubear]

So glad to hear about this. Definitely upgrading now

[@DanielRezendeGuitar]

I already knew that, but that's show how perfect your transcription is! Amazing feature.

[@budsticky]

Hey man, this is a game changer. I haven't used GP since 6 and this is fantastic enough that I took the steal of an upgrade for 24 bucks. Like you, I still think I'm going to do most of my work in Transcribe, but I'll switch over and do the notation in GP. So I won't be doing my actual transcribing in GP yet. But this is awesome for practicing the parts afterwards. Still easier to really hone in on stuff in Transcribe..so that's where the dirty work will be. Plus, I'm a bass player and I tried some of those old records where the bass is hard to pick out and Transcribe's bass select filter still sounds a lot more clear to me than what GP8 has for this purpose. Thanks for sharing.

[@Zartimus]

Awesome overview, very helpful!

[@SjaakShirly6559]

WOW!! What an upgrade!! Thanks!

[@nuoralanmikonmusiikki]

Thank U very much! Massive help!

[@Trymon1980]

Just two months ago I purchased 7.6 and now we are at version 8. Well at least the upgrade was not expensive and the backing track function is really great. I just took another approach to sync it up. Moved the track to the perfect start point and then adjusted the beats per minute so everything matches perfectly up. Guess my guitar teacher was slightly off. After syncing the song went up from 180 bpm to 192 bpm.

[@jaysmoreymusic]

I LOVE this feature. Just pulled album tracks into your AWood transcriptions. Kinda grinning from ear-to-ear over this. 😀

[@LeviClay]

Nice!

[@santana2420]

Upgrade! Happy but I hope in next updates the possibility to move freely chord diagrams, texts, etc. +1 to audio import, very helpful tool to transcribe!

[@johnmac8084]

That's really cool Levi. I have 7, GP haven't emailed me to say 8 is out, so thanks for letting me know.

[@neygercey7899]

I had to make this kind of syncing using both Audacity with its tempo feature and GP7.6 scores. And it was a nightmare to start playing both files at the same time. I'm glad GP8 has this functionality now.

[@mulldruff]

Hi Levi, is there a way to nail the measure length of the audio-File (wich is not allways in sync) to the final midi file? I need to run the modified midi file in sync with the audio-file later on on my ipad to control an FX-Pedal via midi.

[@MarcoMarianiGuitarist]

Hi is there a playlist of all your GP8 tutorials? Also is it possible to view all the song parts ( voice, guitar, bass, drums ) in one scrolling sheet all togheter?

[@CraigRMerriman]

Nice, thanks! I'm upgrading 🙂

[@LeviClay]

If you use my link, let me know so I can check it works!!

[@DillyVesper]

Thanks alot!

[@Blacksoul444]

awesome! Perfect tutorial, thanks! But for some particular songs guitar pro 8 does not load the music file or is unable to. Seems a little buggy.

[@nickjohns396]

Was just playing about with this and I absolutely love! HOWEVER... I just made 30 minutes of adjustments before the software crashed on me, putting me back to a state before I had aligned the audio track with my tab. REMEMBER TO PERIODICALLY SAVE YOU WORK PEOPLE

[@LeMosbi]

Did you check your autobackups ? They should have helped you get to a state close to when the crash happened

[@nickjohns396]

@@LeMosbi it last backed up before a lot of the work. It’s all good. It was fun to do it all again to be completely honest 🤣

[@LeMosbi]

@@nickjohns396 You're probably talking about the actual file that you re-opened after the crash, but GP also makes backups every few action, which honestly saved me multiple times when doing time consuming tasks like synching or transcribing complex riffs (or any task you're so focused on you sometimes forget to hit that ctrl+s...) ! But if you didn't need it it's fine then :)

[@GTKing14]

That looks great. The best thing is that they finally added nested tuplets 😅

[@phar21]

Hi Levi. Great video as always. I was interested to see you stop the tempo automations from displaying in the score. I can only prevent individual tempo automations from displaying which is time consuming. Is it possible to stop all from displaying without actually removing them?

[@cased19]

I was wondering the same thing... found that when you click on the Tempo you'll see a button labeled Remove Automations at the top of the pop up, click on that and all the tempo annotations will be removed, but leaving your audio and transcription in sync.

[@tatarciewich]

Man, you truly are the master of this software. Still no custom keyboard shortcuts in GP8. I'm also curious about your thoughts on this new commands feature, does it speed up your workflow? Also do you see yourself moving away from Transcribe and doing all the work in GP8?

[@LeviClay]

I’m yet to get into the commands, but I had no complaints about workflow in gp7 It’s won’t replace transcribe for me, no. Transcribe has more features, like video.

[@patrickbeaston3659]

Omg it just gets better. Maybe someday we’ll be able to embed videos in the background too!

[@LeviClay]

You would hope so!

[@Rick-gt5cl]

I have tried recording audio on youtube and then changing the exstension to MP3, then importing into a GP file but i am not having any luck with syncing the beginning of the guitar parts

[@jamespitman3357]

genuis

[@camboyce1553]

Perfectly explained import audio in GP8 and sync score with that track! 5:10 see the additional comments to this discussion.

[@FilippoMeloniguitar]

Thanks! By the way, what song is that?

[@onielasd]

why you so smart bro thank you hope it makes sense as i embark.

[@AntonioRockGP]

What about importing the audio to an empty project so we can transcribe? In my workflow I need to have the audio open in a daw with timestreaching so I can listen to the audio slow if I need to and then I need to go back and forth between the DAW and Guitar pro... Can we do all that inside GPro now?

[@LeviClay]

got a video on that coming very soon with my detailed thoughts and experiences

[@DeutschlandGuy]

Just wondering Levi, if you have noticed an annoying "feature" while editing sync points on repeated sections of songs (songs that might repeat a verse with alternative endings.... or the use of D.S. to bring a song back to the beginning for a while before sending it to the end. The first problem I see is when the repeated section begins to play and I hit the space bar to freeze playback so I can edit the sync points there. (Yes, the audio file being a "human performance" has slight lovely variations in timing vs. the first time it was played.) The problem arises when I hit the space bar to pause the song there.... GP8 will not freeze there, but will (annoyingly) throw the score back to the start of the section as it was played "the first time through". I did discover a very cumbersome work abound by clicking the little "speaker icon" along the top of the audio file... as the song is playing through the section where I want to edit sync points. A double click will make that measure repeat. In any case, by using that little speaker tool, you can then hit the space bar and playback will stop but you will not be thrown back to the original iteration of the repeated phrase. Likewise, if you want to do some editing slightly before or after that point (to the sync points), you can use that little "speaker tool" and click either far left or far right on the sync point bar. The nice people at Arobas (GP) need to add some little tool for jumping to repeated measures directly instead of making the users play "Whack a mole" trying to get playback to end on the right spot for editing.

[@LeviClay]

It still needs a LOT of work. There’s lots of it that’s unusable that could be easily corrected.

[@djashjones]

I noticed this today. Wanted to practice some drum rudiments to a song. I guess the work around will be not to do repeats.

[@somarriba333]

Wow! I've been using Guitar Pro and Audacity to do stuff like this.

[@Floydandsome]

Is there like a way we can slow down the import audio?

[@herrunsinn774]

I'm eager to dive into this new audio feature. Often I will buy the tab from the arranger for a solo (finger style) guitar piece, then want to "play along" with an actual audio file the arranger has published on youTube. The problem (as you might guess) is that the artist/arranger rarely plays to a steady beat, this the tempo of his/her playing never exactly matches the tab arrangement in GP8. Before this new GP8 version, I would try to compensate for this by manually making tempo adjustments to the GP8 tab file. You might guess this is "iffy", however, as my tempo change guesses are just that. So I'm really hoping this new import audio feature will give me the tool I need to finally produce perfectly synced audio and GP8 tracks. One question to go along with that. Let's assume I did indeed perfectly sync the audio and the Tab tracks... Does that tempo information (a "tempo map") then automatically get exported when I export a midi file to my DAW (such as Studio One)? If that indeed does work, then it would be a snap to sync the audio track within Studio One with the original video file. (Studio One can sync video... although it is a little crude in how it works... but at least it can be done.)

[@LeviClay]

You can put the tempo changes into the midi, yeah

[@sharchik916]

Can you import tempo maps?

[@Jorzef2]

Nice work! Do you know if it's possible to export the tempo map?

[@LeMosbi]

It's not. I'm not really familiar with tempo maps but you can try creating a click track within GP and export it as midi to be used as a tempo map ?

[@yann8113]

I think you can. First, adjust the tempo sync points on the audio track pane. Then, click the cog on the audio track panel, and click ""create score tempo automation from sync points". This will apply the tempo variations to your tab. Finally, you can export the tab as MIDI which will include the new tempo map. Hope that helps!

[@Jorzef2]

@@yann8113 yes that works, I found about that about 2 weeks ago, thank you nonetheless!

[@nilskirschlager9345]

Hey Levi! Fantastic track - what is it? Or is it still a secret?

[@djashjones]

I'm sync every quarter note and I wish there was a quicker way than dragging the line over. I use GP8 for drums.

[@jaroslavpitro7057]

Hello, is it possible to import mp3 tabs into the program, version 7.5 does not offer it? Thanks for the information.

[@LeviClay]

What’s an mp3 tab?

[@jaroslavpitro7057]

Add backing track@@LeviClay

[@christophergalat8932]

Hey Levi, I know this video is super old but I am doing transcriptions for my students and have begun syncing the mp3s to the transcriptions. My question is, do you know of a way to insert bars without all of the sync points thereafter jumping up in tempo. It's really annoying to have to redo all of the sync points if I realize I need to add more bars rather than repeat a section. Thanks for the content as always.

[@LeviClay]

I don’t think you can. It’s immensely annoying 😂

[@christophergalat8932]

@@LeviClay I figured. Thanks for the reply and the awesome content.

[@ryanputt6454]

Can you isolate tracks on impored audio files on guitar pro 8. If not I assume that if you use the songs from guitar pro's mysongbook that you can isolate tracks. Like mute the vocals if you wanted to sing the song etc.

[@LeviClay]

Songs on my songbook are just midi audio, not the original recording. So you can isolate the midi parts you want. Gp only loads one audio file, not stems.

[@ryanputt6454]

Yeah I see that now I just downloaded the program but I thought mysongbook for guitar pro 8 came with vocal tracks. I could have just got the tabs from ultimate guitar. I hope in the future you can isolate tracks like you can in ripx and other programs. I saw these videos i guess these guys just made there own vocal tracks kzbin.info/www/bejne/oYSul2tjhbR7r6ssi=vmQja7EvZBbHMDa4 kzbin.info/www/bejne/kJuViHtteKpmpbMsi=uJznaZzh97Qn76R4 I would like to use guitar pro to practice vocals with the original track and be able to mute the vocals etc. It is still a really great program though.

[@LeviClay]

those aren't guitar pro files. The visual is, but the audio is recorded by rockschool. Guitar pro is notation software for people who don't actually use notation (weird way to describe it I know), but you're not really looking for that, you're looking for karaoke or a program that can make karaoke tracks (you mention ripX, that's great). Downloading from ultimate guitar won't help because you're still dealing in midi audio... it's just midi made by someone for free who (more than likely) isn't skilled enough to make a product for $$$... so those files will be inaccurate. When I was working for MySongbook, they were meticulous in checking accuracy.

[@richardtarasofsky502]

Hi. You have definitely got me thinking seriously about upgrading. And if so, I will gladly use your affiliate link. One question tho, can you please clarify what audio file formats can be imported? E.g. can import Spotify files?

[@LeviClay]

Spotify isn’t an audio format, it’s a website. You can import audio files, mp3, wav, aiff etc

[@richardtarasofsky502]

@@LeviClay Thank you. Btw, it is possible to download spotify files. I am far from a computer expert, so maybe I am off base in thinking that such files must have some sort of format.

[@LeviClay]

@@richardtarasofsky502 they’ll be stored within the Spotify app in some way and you won’t have actual access to the file unfortunately

[@richardtarasofsky502]

@@LeviClay I am aware that some programs, like the Amazing Slow Downer can read files from Spotify and Apple Music, so perhaps this is something that would could be considered for future versions of Guitar Pro, to make it even more attractive. The alternative is to convert such files into MP3 format, which is possible, but a bit of pain.

[@LeviClay]

@@richardtarasofsky502 I just screencap the bit I want and load the audio into guitar pro, check out my George benson stream from last night

[@sjssjs8987]

Been using G P 5 for years. the audio feature is awesome. But there are a lot of features that I use in version 5 that are no longer here. For one where is staff per Staff view. A lso the looping with count in doesn't work Right. If Your loop starts on Beat 3 It counts in 7 beats. 😢 Like the Audio. Everything Else is worse.

[@Blacksoul444]

Another question, is it possible to cut out a little bit of the audio track? So far it only supports linear stretching of the speed, but i have the problem that the original audio is a bit longer on just a single note than the transcription.

[@LeviClay]

you either edit the audio before guitar pro, or you need to use the markers in the audio to stretch bars to make it work

[@Blacksoul444]

@@LeviClay alright, thanks for the answer!

[@tatarciewich]

Is that a Josh Smith tune? Sounds kinda like him

[@talmid103005070]

but how do you handle fermata with this. The moment i put in an audiofile alle fermata won't work anymore in my score. How can i line up a single note now with the audio, since fermata won't work in score, but it's in the audio. And sync point are only possible on bars, not on single notes. Or what am i missing?

[@LeviClay]

you can add sync points for every beat, just double click

[@talmid103005070]

I see. Thanks a lot

[@ssskkkiiibbbaaa]

How do you account for a change in time signature ?

[@LeviClay]

Put time signatures in

[@woodward_alan]

Levi, is there a dark mode to make the page black or darker?

[@LeviClay]

I wish!

[@arifturgan]

Not so clear .. how did he clear that tempo changes on 4:40

[@LeMosbi]

Once the score tempo automations were created he probably just went through all of them one by one in the automation editor dialog and checked the "Hide automation" box (hence the timelapse) which by the way is not needed to get a synced playback, see my other comment

[@arifturgan]

@@LeMosbi thanks

[@sjssjs8987]

Is there a way to remove all the tempo makings at one. The whole point of syncing it up accurately is to have hundreds of tiny adjustments. If you have to remove them one at a time that's ridiculously tedious.

[@scott_an]

I assume this is covered in your Patreon group, but have you ever done a 'these are the things a transcriber must know' or 'how to format notation for publishing' type videos? I had to duck out of your Patreon & group because I'm consistently over budget and had to cut a few expenses but I'm less poor and eager to rejoin - I've been doing nothing but transcribing lately and I want to go to the next level.

[@LeviClay]

Everything is on Patreon, and by everything…. I mean ME! I’m there all the time, you don’t need prerecorded content when you can just talk with me and my students of transcription! 🙌🏻

[@scott_an]

​@@LeviClay My money and I will see you again, soon! 😁 I'm (foolishly) putting together my own book of transcriptions that I want to submit to an artist I admire and I want to correct as many shortcomings as I can... so that I can minimize their laughter.

[@JimmyKay1976]

Anyone catch how Levi removed the automations? 4:44

[@tsyork]

Did you ever get an answer? I came into the comments looking for the same thing.

[@JimmyKay1976]

@@tsyork No response unfortunately

[@marcopalumbaro5935]

Hi,it is possibile to detune audio track imported

[@LeviClay]

Detune before import

[@marcopalumbaro5935]

@@LeviClay Thank you

[@rafbass]

The new audio ui is very pixel peeping!

[@omniton4106]

Thanks - the sync points was driving me nuts - this is an awesome tutorial.

[@bassjeff2005]

I can’t get crazy train to line up with the intro

[@studio31productions83]

What is the track you're working on dude???

[@LeviClay]

it's a secret!

[@studio31productions83]

@@LeviClay ahhh fair enough! :)

[@LLarson]

@@LeviClay its been 10 months. can you revel the artist & track? Thanks for all the great content.

[@LeviClay]

@@LLarson ahhh it was Josh Smith’s fundamental changes book

[@MusicOfDreamweaver]

It sure has gotten a facelift. They took in my suggestion on being able to deside print quality on PDFs, but it still really crude.

[@MeatCatCheesyBlaster]

It's funny i've been using this program for years to learn guitar, and I don't know even half of its features lol

[@vubear]

Thinking about it, if they're not working on a way to scan a transcription someone needs to get fired.

[@G33MAN65]

Great stuff but to hard for me .

[@VolReed]

A lot of tabs just won’t sync up properly and this still doesn’t hold a candle against Rocksmith for playing along. Actually in rocksmith it’s not playing along. They edit out the guitar and you fill that role by playing it. Maybe in a few years guitar pro can catch up to an 11 year old video game…

[@LeviClay]

That’s literally an ENTIRELY different idea though isn’t it Bobby? That’s why at no point in the last 11 years have my 100s of clients asked me to make their tab books and downloads… in rock smith. If you can’t get things to sync up… have you considered YOU might be the problem? Your cognitive skills are lacking, it stands to reason your computers skills may be too?

[@VolReed]

Why pay money to tinker with trash when you can just plug in and actually play guitar…? Yeah I’m sure the “tablature book” is really giving you and your friends a good time… I’ll stick with what’s fun and actually works.

[@LeviClay]

@@VolReed aye, it’s worked wonders for you hasn’t it? Where can I find your work? 😂

[@WysteriaGuitar]

The sound of the instruments really suck though...

[@micheldenostredame5361]

If you are not "PRO" musical, do not buy this piece of crap software... it's can't transcript your melody mp3 file to the tab automatically... when you use this scam software it will make you feel like: you play CD player and you take a piece of paper and pen to write your melody of you hear from CD player to paper manually...😐

[@LeviClay]

I don’t think you realise how funny this comment is. So we understand correctly… you’re upset that you have to learn a skill to do a thing? And the software doesn’t magically do all the work for you? Maybe now you’ll appreciate the work that goes into the videos I make? You think it’s a scam… because it doesn’t do something it never claimed to do? I think that just makes you stupid buddy.