GUN FIT AND A BRILLIANT WAY TO CHECK IT...Roger Pace

In this video we look at gun fit ...and a brilliant way to check if your gun fits you.
We look at cast...drop at comb...eye level in relation to the rib... and the importance of a consistent gun mount.
So if our gun fits then we will have even... Happier Shooting...Roger Pace

[@John-uj9zy]

That straw tick might be the most brilliant idea for shotgun fitting I've ever seen.

[@jerrybrakebill71]

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[@michaelbosisto6259]

I’ve read a lot of text on a proper fit, but this was by far the best way. Thank you Sir.

[@rogerpace9322]

Michael thank you...stay well !!!

[@aadilomer]

This is the best ever video on gun mount. Almost everyone else makes it sounds like a rocket science. This is simply brilliant.

[@rogerpace9322]

Adil...thank you very much...greatly appreciated!!!

[@blackbear9326]

Brilliant explanation on gun Fit.... I especially like the "straw trick'..... cheers mate.

[@JudahMaccabee_]

Thank you, Roger, for taking the time to share your wealth of information with us.

[@Cuzzazbuzz]

About to buy my first gun and this is invaluable. Really appreciate your time and what a great tip with the straw. Genius!

[@rogerpace9322]

Cuzzazbuzz...buy one that's proofed for steel shot...then you are ready for everything...mine has fixed chokes so if i ever have to shoot steel shot i can't...stay well and enjoy shopping for the new gun.

[@ellencumerlato8318]

Great advice. got my new gun and followed the straw advice. Simple but effective. Feeling confident with the setup now. Cheers Roger

[@Ranger42]

Great instructional video. The height of comb explanation is the best I've seen on KZbin. Thank you.

[@rogerpace9322]

Thank you...much appreciated...stay well and Happy Shooting...Roger

[@palmergary]

I am 63 but a new shooter. Love your common sense and patient way to approach teaching aspects of shotgun mouunt, fit and shooting. Thanks so much and keep making these vids. Gary from the USA

[@rogerpace9322]

Gary...I was four years older than you when i first started shooting trap...that was two years ago...the good thing about the sport is that blokes well into their 70's and early 80's are still participating and shooting good scores...so good luck to you my friend...i believe it takes about 15 months...and then suddenly everything just clicks...no thinking ...no aiming...just see bird ..shoot bird...good on you!

[@cracky_wainwright]

@@rogerpace9322 -- Great video, sir. I'm over 50 and have thought for years that the reason I can't hit anything with a shotgun (no matter how expensive the shotgun is) is that I simply started too late and that one must start shooting clays & doves at a young age to do any good. I've sold beautiful Benelli, Browning, and Remington shotguns because I couldn't hit any flying target with them.

[@rogerpace9322]

@@cracky_wainwright Michael...you are much younger than I am...I hope you buy another gun and go and have some fun with it...thank you for watching ...and stay well !!!

[@michal.abramowicz]

Something like that, my father shared to me. Thank you for lesson! Best regards from Poland.

[@tuddrussell]

Thanks Roger, these are some great tips to try when I get home.

[@maxwelm7408]

too many experts in this field.but your videos are simple and effective. i always watch your videos .very informative.keep up the good work mate

[@rogerpace9322]

Good on you and thanks!

[@jasonh8043]

Very informative ! Great tip about using the straw ! Thank you.

[@TheJohnnyCombat]

Roger, thank you for this advice. You've saved me a lot of wasted time and money. I'm looking forward to watching many more of your videos. Good luck! J. C.

[@rogerpace9322]

John ...you are very welcome...and glad it was useful!

[@waynejenkins6259]

Roger's advice is straightforward and easy to grasp. Thanks for helping me better understand these important concepts.

[@rogerpace9322]

Wayne...you are very welcome...good on you!

[@StanTheMan83]

Great tip on the weight gain. I shot a beretta AL2 well as a teenager weighing 165 lbs. I returned to the gun years later at 200 lbs and couldn't hit a thing, noticed I could see the entire rib. Made up a shim to drop the comb a little and now it fits well again.

[@rogerpace9322]

That's it...good on you and happy shooting!

[@hamiltonburger4574]

I love how your videos are always straightforward without the added BS at the start like every other KZbinr does about the "liking and subscribing" crap. That's obvious. Thanks again for all your help!

[@rogerpace9322]

I appreciate that! Thank you very much !!!

[@SquirrelHunter]

I've just got my shotgun certificate and was looking for some advice. It's much clearer now, so thank you, Roger ;-)

[@rogerpace9322]

Squirrel Hunter...you are most welcome...glad it was useful!

[@pullnhooks]

This is the 100% absolute best explination and tip I have ever heard. Thank you for posting. I will try this and practice this.

[@rogerpace9322]

Glad you liked it...thanks and stay well!!!

[@farabijd7529]

Thanks alot sir, I've shot at 35yds today as your instructions & got very good results using 36gr no.4 . & 40gr no. BB at 45 yds patterned about 2" low. But I'm satisfied with this. I'm very much appreciated and grateful to you sir. May God bless you. 😊

[@rogerpace9322]

farabi...glad it all worked out...stay well!

[@patferebee647]

Great explanation, some different ways than I was taught. But I like your ideas. Thank you for your knowledge

[@mgyver2472]

Wow what a great video. At 6’ 4” I’m a fairly big guy and found my marlin 336 always felt uncomfortably small when I fact I had to add something to the stock for a cheek rest to bring my eyes in line. Feels like a new gun. Thanks so much.

[@rogerpace9322]

OvER9ooo...Thank you for your kind comments!

[@am2675]

Best fit video ever. Straw idea also helps me to see how quickly and smoothly I can do the mount. Thanks a lot.

[@rogerpace9322]

Andrew...glad you liked it!!!

[@GunRagDave]

I can't believe I've never heard of the straw idea before. Thanks for the information. That's brilliant.

[@rogerpace9322]

Thank you gunragdave

[@simonthomas5113]

Good idea with the drinking straw and I'll try it. Up to this point I've tried a small disk neodymium magnet at the front end of the rib to make sure it lines up with the bead.

[@craigthebrit1132]

What an excellent video explaining gun fit...I tried the straw trick, and I needed to add a shim, when rechecked through the straw it was perfect.....so thank you sir, you are a legend.....

[@rogerpace9322]

thank you...you are very welcome!!!

[@paulwatterson5992]

Most informative video I have seen on gun fit & mounting, thank you Roger.

[@rogerpace9322]

Paul...you are very welcome and thank you for watching!!!

[@shawnbarry3893]

Thank you so much you're the only one that's described it explicitly in detail

[@rogerpace9322]

You're welcome! and thank you for watching...stay well !!!

[@ditzydoo4378]

Thank you for clearing up a lot of bunk I've been told over the years. I checked my three shotguns and two fit, one doesn't, and I never knew why. But now I do. Thank you.

[@rogerpace9322]

Comments like yours make me happy...glad it was useful...thank you for watching. Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year !!!

[@ditzydoo4378]

@@rogerpace9322 and a very Merry Christmas to you good sir as well, and a happy New Year.

[@roberttresslar85]

Just started using you soda straw trick. Great advice. I have been working a lot from home during COVID, so I have plenty of time. I mount by DT-11 ten times an hour. I am 77 and have been shooting all my life, never have better advice. Thank you. Bob Tresslar Denver Colorado

[@rogerpace9322]

Robert...I too am about that age and I need to start strengthening my arms...mounting the gun often is good exercise and practice...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!

[@anthonyformosa5763]

Thanks Roger for the good tips

[@aoritisboskos5725]

Traditional trick in Greece! The most exact part of gun buy. Your eye must see just the end of the barrel in straight way! Nice job my friend liked your video

[@rogerpace9322]

aoritis...megalo hello ...very true and thank you for watching!!!

[@svenharmsen8986]

Thank you Roger. Brilliant. We would read all these things on the internet but you have the knack of putting everything in logical order when explaining it in your videos. Regards Sven

[@rogerpace9322]

Hope it was useful ...I will do the other one on foot position in the next week or two...stay well...Roger

[@Nokharma]

Yes please , that would be very useful , every one has there own opinion at my club on how you should stand , I find it annoying that I get told so many different things so now I just stand how I feel comfortable and stable , Id like to here your thoughts .

[@rogerpace9322]

Nokharma...sorry I didn't answer you sooner...but sometimes I do not see all the messages...I have answered it in your latest comment...there are too many opinions at the club ... choose two really good shooters and only listen to them...at our club I am lucky that we have a former australian national Coach..his name is peter guire and he is a lovely and knowledgeable chap...we also have dino Olivieri who has been inducted into the hall of fame for clay shooting...both of them are still good shots...do not listen to everyone because they each have their own opinion...same say hold low on the trap house...others say hold high...some say mount your gun high then bring it down....others say bring your gun up to your face parallel with the ground...do what you feel is good for you and then do it CONSISTENTLY...Happy Shooting...Roger...PS change only one thing at a time

[@akbunny5221]

Great advice Roger, thank you.....!

[@rogerpace9322]

Stay well!

[@MrBluesluver]

Thank you for the video. It is one of the easiest to understand gun fit videos that I've seen.

[@rogerpace9322]

Bill...thank you!!!

[@fabiocasella6249]

Brillant tips!!

[@hdavies8499]

Hi Roger, To expand on my comment a bit - I've got a Miroku MK38 Teague Sporter, which the Browning rep thought was a tad low on the comb for me. I bought a Beartooth Comb Raising kit to see if I could correct this without breaking the Bank. It was a great improvement on the first outing, but I wasn't completely sure I'd raised the comb enough. Fitted a slightly thicker adjustment pad and then watched your video. Tried the straw test and saw that I was now spot-on. Brilliant! One less excuse…….

[@rogerpace9322]

H Davies... good on you !

[@mikecarroll6139]

Excellent and practical demonstration on gun fitting.

[@rogerpace9322]

Thank you mike...good on you!!!

[@TREV617]

Thanks great easy way to check gun fit could save many wasted cartridges.

[@GunBlue490]

Nice tips. We share similar tastes and fit in Beretta 686 Silver Pigeons, too!

[@rogerpace9322]

GunBlue490...Good on you!

[@Vas1984]

I went trap shooting for the first time and whilst i love the silver pigeon dtl ( trap version ) i dont think it fit properly without some modifying. I did quite well but need to practice my mounting

[@johnyoung7926]

fantastic video i can now mount my gun properly many thanks roger.

[@rogerpace9322]

john...that makes me happy to hear it ...stay well!

[@lonnibdd]

Thanks, Roger, getting into skeet shooting and this will help out A LOT!!!

[@rogerpace9322]

Good on you and thanks for watching!!!

[@Combat556]

Perfect gun fit instructions. Thanks.

[@mikemcguire7579]

Thank you very much for this. You made it very clear. Much appreciated!

[@rogerpace9322]

You're very welcome! Thanks for watching Mike!!!

[@karlosthejackel69]

Just followed your advice as my shooting is well off. According to your advice, my eye line is nowhere near. I’ll correct and follow this up. Great advice, thank you.

[@rogerpace9322]

Hope it all goes well for you .Thank you for watching!!!

[@jesusroque4478]

Really BRILLIANT explanation. Thank you so much

[@rogerpace9322]

Jesus...thank you very much..glad you liked it...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!

[@gorp27]

excellent explanation of mounting and fit, I especially like the tip on using a straw.

[@rogerpace9322]

Good on you and thanks!

[@mosfireman]

you are so right. first mount consistently, then check the fit.

[@rogerpace9322]

You got it!

[@neilphelps8618]

Another great video, thank you Roger.

[@rogerpace9322]

My pleasure,Neil. Thanks.

[@webb658]

That's ingenious, thank you for sharing. I'm gonna try that immediately when I get home.

[@rogerpace9322]

Mark...sorry for the late reply...glad you liked it !!!

[@shaunspies1108]

Best advice to date. Thank you from South Africa.

[@rogerpace9322]

Shaun... thank you... ...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!

[@peterbalac1915]

Cheers Roger simple great advice 🤙

[@rogerpace9322]

Peter...much appreciated and thanks!

[@TheMdshooter]

Great tips. Thank you Sir!

[@rogerpace9322]

Glad to be of help!

[@bensomers2662]

Thanks Roger, great explanation, will try the straw trick. Cheers Ben

[@rogerpace9322]

Good on you Ben!

[@bukovik]

Thanks a lot. Helped me a lot with my new Beretta 690 Sporting.

[@rogerpace9322]

Thank you...stay well...Roger

[@jonclark1155]

Simple instructions in a short amount of time. Well done Sir and Thank you 🙏🏻

[@rogerpace9322]

Glad it was helpful! Thank you for watching...much appreciated.!!!

[@SC93-85]

Very informative video. Thanks for making it!

[@rogerpace9322]

Many thanks...happy shooting!!!

[@mikegerrard5758]

Top advice.

[@Kodreanu23]

Briliant, I've learned a lot. Thank you, sir!

[@rogerpace9322]

Glad to hear it! Thank you !!!

[@baderhazena5732]

Dear Mr Roger Good day You are really great man , very important information , Please send your advice for about the shocks my shotgun is benelli 828u thanks Bader hazena

[@MKChase-uj9vx]

Hi Roger Nice and clear and at a pace you can absorb. The straw test is interesting.... not sure I'll have the balls to pull out a straw next time I'm in the gun shop but who knows. All the best from sunny Wigan (England). Jim.

[@rogerpace9322]

Jim ...do it! Pull out the straw it will give you a good indication of whether the gun fits...good on you!

[@shirikyan]

THANK YOU ROGER !!!!!!!! True shooter !

[@rogerpace9322]

Thanks for watching,,,...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!

[@fzsblackmagick5166]

LOL...So I had bought a Beretta 1301 Tactical shotgun and in the manual it referred to Cast & Comb and these parts that came with it to change the Cast and Comb. I was like...what the Hell is a Cast & Comb??? Thank you Roger, I now know thanks to you.

[@rogerpace9322]

Glad to hear it was helpful...thank you and stay well!!!

[@flyfish23]

Excellent video, thank you.

[@rogerpace9322]

Thank you Todd ...much appreciated!

[@nancybarnes29]

most excellent instruction, thank you so much

[@rogerpace9322]

Nancy...you are very welcome!!!

[@tomcleary469]

Thanks Roger, you are easy to follow and understand

[@rogerpace9322]

You are very welcome...thank you...much appreciated !!!

[@AssShot2000]

Thanks Roger, i immediately went to the kitchen for a straw... Genius tip. Turned out i could not see trough the straw at all, raised the comb slightly and Voila!

[@rogerpace9322]

Makes me happy to hear it...good on you...happy shooting!!!

[@AssShot2000]

Made me even happier that i could hit clays with no more than my own fault today, Thank you Roger! Brilliant!

[@boatkid888]

That just makes sense. Great Tip!

[@rogerpace9322]

Good on you!!!

[@wesbrown574]

I can’t wait to try this out, Nice and easy to follow video 👍 Thanks for taking time to do this for everyone.. kind regards Wes

[@rogerpace9322]

You are very welcome!!!

[@paulsherrod1365]

Thank you very much!

[@Britishshooter]

Excellent! Worth watching just for the drinking straw trick!

[@rogerpace9322]

Glad you enjoyed it! stay well over there in Britain!!!

[@dale_ch]

Roger - I know this is quite an old video, but still very relevant and an excellent and simple explanation of a subject that some experts make to sound way over complicated - probably because they want to charge big bucks to offer the same advice? 👍👍

[@rogerpace9322]

Dale...the video is old ...just like me...stay well and happy shooting!!!

[@joey0077d]

Always wanted to know what fitting your gun was. Ever since seeing the movie Revenge with Kevin Costner and Anthony Quinn. Thanks for sharing!

[@rogerpace9322]

You are very welcome!!!

[@ahb3443]

Roger, great video mate. The straw trick is ingeneous. I'm off to the bakery now to buy a drink and get a straw!

[@rogerpace9322]

Nice one ...we are locked down and the bakeries are shut!!!

[@johnappleyard4123]

Great! Many many thanks!

[@rogerpace9322]

John...you are very welcome...stay well and happy shooting!

[@NoFailureAllowed]

THANK YOU SIR! That was well explained. Now I'm off to get my drinking straw and some blue tape! Cheers Mate

[@rogerpace9322]

NFA ...good on you!

[@mickeybowling]

great information thanks

[@hunt4redoctober628]

Brilliant idea using a strawer! Thankyou!

[@rogerpace9322]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching...stay well !!!

[@peteduley4658]

Pete from South East England. Thanks for the Straw Tip. Stay Safe.

[@rogerpace9322]

Thanks for watching! stay well in South East England!!!

[@bobmarley636]

Very nice way of explanation. Thank you.

[@rogerpace9322]

Bob...thank you and much appreciated!

[@Jolly56Roger]

Hi Roger. tried the straw brilliant and simple I have a K80 that was nearly spot on just a bit high,and a k32 which was miles to high sorted now .Thanks for a great vid .Roger uk.

[@rogerpace9322]

Thanks for sharing Much appreciated !!!

[@roamy37748]

that's some good info thank you

[@rogerpace9322]

roamy37748...glad it was useful and good on you!

[@iljaroos5851]

Thanks a lot, nice tips!

[@rogerpace9322]

llja Roos...Thank you and good on you!

[@Sudhakar4Sharma]

I love your videos. Very useful without any pomp and show. You are the best....

[@rogerpace9322]

Much appreciated. Sorry for the late reply. Stay well, happy shooting and thank you for watching !!

[@paulscountry456]

Good job easy to understand.

[@rogerpace9322]

Thank you and stay well!

[@johngraham3035]

Thank you for making it easy

[@rogerpace9322]

John...thank you!!!

[@kcole2990]

Close your eyes and mount the gun then open them. Do that a couple times. It helps . Just adjusted my maxus 2 after watching this video. It really helped.

[@rogerpace9322]

Thank you for commenting Stay well, happy shooting and thank you for watching !!

[@TwoRiders]

Thanks for another helpful idea. The drinking straw is a great way to get the point across. How about some video of the club where you shoot?

[@rogerpace9322]

TtJj how are you...good to hear from you...the drinking straw ensures that your eye is looking down the barrel and not left or right...I will do a video of the club where I shoot in the near future...stay well...Roger

[@N4bpp1]

Thanks for much needed help.

[@rogerpace9322]

Glad it helped and thank you ...stay well and happy shooting !!!

[@farabijd7529]

Dear sir, my single barrel shotgun doesn't have a rib, just have a beed at front.. & gun shoots 5-6" inches down at 20-30 yds. When I mount gun for aiming I see half of front barrel then the front sight . I think, if I low the comb hight I could see the front sight straight. So what should I do to get my shots up ? Please help me with your kind advice .

[@rogerpace9322]

farabi...if you lower the comb the gun will shoot lower...if you want the gun to shoot higher then you raise the comb...stay well!

[@kennethbraun1568]

Great summary and practical!,

[@kareemmonzer7894]

Doesnt the amount of allowable rib we can see (the first test) depend on whether we are shooting Trap, Skeet or Sporting?

[@rogerpace9322]

yes ...absolutely correct!!!

[@fretless50]

Hi Roger, My rib slants upwards then flattens out, so I should be putting the straw on the flat part of the comb , correct.

[@rogerpace9322]

Yes on the flat part of the rib so that you look parallel to the barrel...stay well...Roger

[@frankcadillac9151]

All fair dinkum Roger. Before we use your method we should find out if twin barreled shotguns are regulated properly. I have owned nice birdguns but one barrel shoots off a foot or two from the other. I just close my eyes, mount the gun and see if my rib picture is right, do it many times, practice to hone your mount. Thanks

[@rogerpace9322]

Frank...I believe that at about 40 yards the shot from the two barrels should coincide...A foot or two difference is quite a bit...Thanks for watching...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!

[@Igotknobblies]

Helpful video thanks. I have confirmed my gun doesn't fit. I need to increase cast as I'm shooting slightly to the left. I notice you push your head down onto the comb. I shoot skeet (gun mounted after release of the bird) and game. Ideally we should mount the gun with the neck held in the natural standing position. I don't think I drop my head at all and the rib is in correct position. My right eye needs to move about 4 or 5 mm to the left to be central to the rib. Its a cheap gun and not a special stock. Would it be easier to remove some of the comb with a spokeshave then refinish the woodwork instead of going through the hot oil and bending treatment?

[@rogerpace9322]

If you are happy to remove some of the wood then that is probably easier than the process of bending the stock...but yes whatever you do your eye needs to line up with the rib...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!

[@ralstonraz]

Thank you. This is a great video.

[@rogerpace9322]

Glad it was helpful!...much appreciated...stay well and happy shooting !!!

[@jonathansmith4260]

Thank you ,very helpful

[@rogerpace9322]

Glad it was helpful! Thanks for watching. !!!

[@bartofilms]

I do like this, but it makes a similar assertion to others in which they say we need a consistent mount before we can get a perfect fit... But how can we achieve a perfect mount if the fit isn't right? The mount will never be consistent if the fit is incorrect. Is it the Chicken or the Egg we need to fix first?

[@rogerpace9322]

bartofilms...if the fit isn't right we can still mount our gun consistently...but that's not what we want...for good consistent scores we need a gun that shoots where we look and we achieve this by adjusting the gun so that it fits us...it is not a matter of what we fix first BOTH have to be right...good on you and stay well!

[@Claireyebin]

Brilliant - thanks

[@rogerpace9322]

Anthony ...you are very welcome...stay well!!!

[@craighealy6186]

Thanks for the explanation. You must be a teacher!

[@rogerpace9322]

I was a school principal most of my working life...I did not know it showed...stay well my friend and happy shooting !!!