Gundam Hathaway Explained (UC Timeline Explained)

[@gunjiranation985]

What Lore would you like to see next?

[@ridingthecosmos6273]

Could you do a video on the calamity war?

[@macaronitony2178]

A video on the immense importance Bernie wiseman was to the continuation of zeon and char Aznable

[@juniravegaming8564]

I’d like to hear how you feel Hathaway’s Flash will end; if you think it’ll diverge from the novel or follow it to a tee

[@Hakuru15]

JOHNNY RIDDEN

[@justuswilson517]

late UC like F91, crossbone and onwards

[@ghostagent3552]

finally... someone who actually explains the damn timeline instead of saying what gets released when, who made it, and what merchandise came with it

[@TheSeeingman]

minus the fact that you called Mineva as Degwin's youngest child instead of grandchild ( because she's Dozle's daughter) and some pronounciation, quite well constructed vid summing everything.

[@JordoValentino]

Yeah. I noticed "Gryps". Good video, though.

[@trajano777]

Ah Dozle! The only Zabi not hell bent on betraying his own family for power. Was quite a nice guy on the complete wrong side of history.

[@EluciaDeLuteIma]

Most of his pronunciation gave me cancer. Its like he read a wikipedia article without knowing the content or something.

[@JordoValentino]

@@EluciaDeLuteIma YT sh4d0w3d your c0mm3nt. Likely the word "c4nc3r".

[@RepyonDonGaming]

The Origin, Trilogy Movies, Stardust Memory, Zeta, Unicorn. All peak UC for me.

[@MattGarZero]

The Stardust Memory/08TH MS Team combo will always be my jam.

[@marcjustinpascasio9955]

With how hard it is to get into the UC timeline, I think it's well balanced by how good everything within it is.

[@DIEGhostfish]

The main issue I had with Hathaway the movie is that the original Hathaway's Flash is a sequel to Beltorchica's Children where Hathaway DOESN'T KILL A TEAMMATE. But Hathaway The Movie is a sequel to CCA, where he very much does.

[@billythenarwhal1579]

Does BC explain why Qua... Char decided to stop being Char better?

[@howardlam6181]

If the said teammate fired a missile at me and someone died protecting me from that missile, that teammate is no longer my teammate but an enemy.

[@leutcher9381]

1 year late ...its bcz kamille lost his mind and hamman maybe​@@billythenarwhal1579

[@tombombadilofficial]

Im just glad that despite Earth's diminishing resources, overpopulation, famine and wars over living spaces, Jollibee somehow found a way and was actually one of the few businesses to be thriving.

[@juniravegaming8564]

Nice to see a clean gundam review channel that really understands mobile suit gundam. Im def gonna follow

[@gunjiranation985]

Thank you so much!

[@xcom54]

Oh yea, I was only enjoying the spectacle, and did not realize I don't know what the heck is going on. Now I know. Thanks.

[@kochan1147]

Other than Mineva Zabi is Dozle Zabi's daughter, and the Fifth Luna was dropped on Tibet, this was an extremely accurate explanation.

[@TheArtOfPistons]

Great video. We love you gunjira!

[@misusatriyo]

This helps me a lot to understand the convoluted UC timeline. Thank you very much!

[@alan133]

well for me its guy with superpowers gets into giant robots, fucks bad guys up while committing genocide, bad guys had a guy with super powers gets into giant robot, fucks good guys and more bad guys up while committing genocide, guy meets girl with superpowers that gets into giant robot, fuck shits up. Girl dies, guy getspttsd and retires temporarily. Guy 2 appears, have superpowers, gets into giant robot and fuck shits up, meet girl 2 with superpowers. Girl 2 dies. Guy 2 gets ptsd and became a vegetable. Guy 3 meets girl 3 with superpowers, girl 3 likes bad guy 1 more, guy 3 stole a giant robot to try and get girl 3 back, girl 3 dies, guy 3 commits a teamkill and gets ptsd. Guy 1 and bad guy 1 had a final fight, both dies and became one with the force. Guy 3 became a terrorist because he can't get over ptsd.

[@uptown710]

What’s crazy is it seems HF is more following the novel, which means a very important change that was in the CCA movie isn’t going to be recognized by those who didn’t read the CCA novel.

[@KillerCornMuffin]

Can you give us uneducated fans a quick explanation?

[@uptown710]

@@KillerCornMuffin The original CCA was based on a novel Tomino wrote. In it, Quess wasn’t killed by Chan, but she was accidentally shot down by Hathaway. I felt the guilt was more pronounced that way rather than the way she died in CCA.

[@mro-aviation]

@@uptown710 it definitely would make more sense that he turns out to be mafty if he had been living with that guilt and anger

[@ksr1581]

Unicorn's message got absolutely tossed aside with the existence of Hathaway's Flash and practically every other Late UC entries. It's like it didn't even leave an impact on the entire world after everything settled in its story.

[@alternative915]

Same goes with narrative, the movie that doesn't seem to have any reason to exist, rather, it's more like an hour long gundam phenex commercial

[@nycbeardo]

nothing was going to change with the reveal of laplaces box, because the elites already consolidated their power on Earth and Zeon was about to become extinct. Also the late UC entries are focused more on the political and technological decline of the Federation due to transition to a civilian controlled govt, lack of willpower, and growing complacent and/or arrogant by thinking they ended all rebellions due to Side 3 rejoining the fold.

[@ksr1581]

@@nycbeardo that's true. I just don't like that it actually got an anime instead of something like, say, Crossbone, which actually bridges the gap between F91 and Victory, and manages to leave a considerable impact onto the world at large compared to... just some Gundam that is apparently the culmination of space magic technology? That Gundam was stored into hiding by the time Narrative came out... what a waste of animation budget.

[@RogerLoUSPSA]

Prob because Hathaway was written way way back in 19xxs and unicorn was written afterwards

[@illletyouknowin20businessd34]

Ah yes, gundam bunch of angry men and children nonstop fighting in human shaped space ships over resources. I love gundam.

[@wolfman8838]

Great video, brother! I just watched Hathaway tonight and was super confused for a bit. This definitely helped!

[@billybob6505]

A very high level overview but a good summary of UC so far. You really glossed over a lot of details but that could be another video. The Essenes is there. Thank you!

[@SpaceGhostFan]

What exactly was glossed over? I’m really interested in learning more.

[@Saltiren]

What's an essenes

[@mr.amphibian8418]

Great video, keep up the good work

[@gunjiranation985]

Thanks!

[@redwardranger7034]

Someonne from screenrant made an atrticle about how Hathaway's Flash didn't made sense or somethinf like that. I hope that person watch this

[@juniravegaming8564]

Egh screenrant

[@papersparrow899]

Their spirit has been weighed down!

[@christbenitez8797]

Idk blame the unicorn Gundam.

[@redwardranger7034]

@@christbenitez8797 Oh, someone who's not a fan of Gundam Unicorn as well?

[@GeroniMomartinezMG]

I'd definitely want a late UC explainer that includes f90/f91 and victory

[@papersparrow899]

Don't forget Crossbone, since it bridges the gap between F91 and Victory. Oh, and someone familiar returns there..

[@Giggity1080]

Thank you! Just gained a follower and subscriber!

[@tandord491]

9:16 just a small correction; Mineva is Degwin´s Granddaughter, she´s Dozle Zabi daughter. Excellent video my man

[@zerosen1972]

There's only ONE thing I needed to grasp from Hathaway's Flash. That Quess Paraya is a horrible person - even in death.

[@howardlam6181]

She died protecting Hathaway. Horrible person? Not

[@cabnbeeschurgr]

​@@howardlam6181it's arguable whether Hathaway is worth protecting lol

[@lilzzorgan]

Tweaker misogynist

[@evangray3866]

Okay so I admit that I'm probably going to need to watch the video again to fully understand this whole thing. But here's a probably very stupid question: would it not have been better to unite the colonies against Earth Federation instead of dropping them on people's heads? I mean it's already been established that most people on Earth think lesser of people on the space colonies so there's your motivation to unite right there. One would think you get enough people to Rally to your cause and numbers alone might very well get Earth Federation to surrender and give in to your demands. I mean if I'm not mistaken that was more or less the intention of the Confederacy of Independent Systems in Star Wars.

[@joshuaho5775]

And my friend, you just mentioned the start of V gundam!

[@ericj6636]

And you also just described Full Frontal's "Side Co-Prosperity Sphere" plan to unite the colonies and economically freeze out Earth to make the colonies the dominant power. It was actually the nicest and most reasonable plan of the Zeon in the UC timeline.

[@JohnnyRocker023]

The ones they dropped remained neutral even when Zeon tried to bully them into uniting against earth iirc

[@howardlam6181]

Because situations are never ideal. Not every colony is willing to take the risk of siding against the Earth Feds.

[@wolfshield2499]

Thank you. I'm Gundam newbie, the story is sooo... Complex. 😁

[@eyesofstatic9641]

Nice avatar. The Zaku2s are one of my favorite suits

[@Galaf]

Thanks a bunch! One thing I didn't understand in Hathaway is that whole conversation about Gigi being the mistress of some guy that apparently is important but who does not a Gundam wikia page?

[@Vin.1904]

Yup, she has very little information from the wiki

[@pancholopez8829]

Now I'm curious would we learn anymore since between Hathaway and F91 has potential. Maybe an anime adaptation of Crossbone?

[@r-medo2617]

How long did it pass before the unicorn came and the newtype secret

[@kc5946]

Great video! So islts pretty much Hathaway messing things up again i see! And with another crazy girl by his side no less.

[@TomahawksNShotShells]

I didn't realize how strung out the Gundam story is. Some of these are back from 80s.

[@Carmen-PleaseDistort]

"They received unexpected help from a boy named Kamille Biden" 😭

[@chadbryson4252]

Sadly I know how this conflict ends but can’t wait to see it finally. Been waiting since 1990 to see this play out.

[@thepaisleyproject]

Where does Char's counterattack begin? I've never been able to find a summary of ZZ for my parents, since they only watch a dub and I haven't seen CCA yet

[@OrtadragoonX]

It takes place in April of 0093. So about five years after Gundam ZZ, which takes place from March of 0088 until January of 0089.

[@anthonyjordanmoviesandmore2470]

Camille did not get the zeta Gundam until returning to space not while he was on the Earth

[@yeetboi3286]

why am I even into gundam? I haven't watched a single episode TT The music pulled me in at first then it snowballed into obsession I wanna start watching but it seems intimidating with how much I gotta get into

[@konnichi_wa]

I like Gunplay and watched this movie as my entry into the anime (franchise) I felt blind watching it because I had to guess that my context assumptions were right and read between the lines

[@legendary2256]

One of the reason mafty navue Erin was born becuz of the death of quess in chars counter attack

[@yapyongliang7665]

thank you for the recap. what are your thoughts on gundam hathaway movie?

[@gunjiranation985]

I thought it was great. I was unhappy with the only Gundam we got. The Xi vs Penelope. But i am hoping for more action in the next. The story was great, but I understand it can be hard to follow if you are not a UC junkie.

[@Lux1277TTV]

The squares on ur avatar are driving me crazy because there's 4 squares on one side and 3 on the other... (inner forearm)

[@zefux]

Good recap. I enjoyed it! However, there's a popping and thumping sound that keeps happening throughout the video (I think it's related to the air hitting the mic hard), and that's a little distracting for listen. I hope you can look into this to make your videos even better! Otherwise, this has been a great recap and extremely informative. Thank you for this video!

[@gunjiranation985]

You nailed the issue. I didn't have a pop guard for my mic.

[@coleviney4740]

Basically all I needed to know is the last minute and 50 seconds

[@Cheapstall]

Loved the video

[@adrianlujan4116]

Ok. I not the most familiar with Gundam lore. So after it ended I felt like "uh, I think there's another half to this story" lol

[@bishopdumas4751]

really well done

[@gunjiranation985]

Thank you!

[@chriscueva1866]

Thanks for mentioning that there is no evidence that the Zabis killed Diekun. Your the first person I’ve seen on YT not take the alleged assassination as fact. No one ever claims responsibility andThe Origin explicitly shows how over worked and exhausted Deikun was it’s very possible it was just an ordinary heart attack. I like the irony of Chars entire vendetta against the Zabis to be somewhat unjustified and misguided.

[@Vin.1904]

You're

[@riotokyo2516]

So what side is Bright on in Hathaway's flash?

[@howardlam6181]

Still an officer of Earth Fed but not involved in the frontline. Only signing the document to have Mafty executed after he gets caught. He retired soon after having learned that Hathaway was the one executed.

[@riotokyo2516]

@@howardlam6181 damn, where can I read this at? Cause I know it's not something I can watch

[@RocketChickArt1]

I would love to see you do some reviews of some more late UC content like f90 silhouette formula

[@sonnee44]

*thank you for explaining*

[@nickgennady]

Why would Zeon rejoin Earth federation when the earth federation clearly still abuses there power? So Meniva just gave up?

[@gearthehuman2115]

in Gundam Unicorn, it was said that Zeon had to give their autonomy to the Federation when UC 100 is come, so it made sense that they weren't exist in Gundam Hathaway event, although at the same time, making Mineva's birth meaningless with the disbandment of Zeon, it would be impossible for her to inherit the leadership .

[@jesseblayney]

How do you watch the entire gundam saga in order?

[@mro-aviation]

Oh boy haha just off the top of my head, keep in mind they've added new series or movies that go hand on hand with 1 year war or slightly after... MSG the origin MSG original MSG Z MSG 8TH MS team MSG thunderbolt MSG was in pocket MSG stardust MSG ZZ Char's counterattack MSG Unicorn MSG narrative MSG Hathaway I may have missed some and then there's the ones that are based after Hathaway all the way up to UC149 or something

[@jesseblayney]

@@mro-aviation Thanks man! Is this your next video? Is this the series and the videos? Whats the films list?

[@ARCtrooperblueleader]

Excellent work. Bravo.

[@gunjiranation985]

Many thanks!

[@MYTHGUNDAM]

So, Mafty its what the AEUG should have been?

[@miguelfuentes7800]

What happened to Bright Noah? Who was Hathaway's mother?

[@Vin.1904]

Bright is still alive during hathaway movie, her mom is one of the white base crew but idk if she still alive or not

[@yoshimitsuzk]

Dude your child can blow up real big if you do Gundam lore like there's hardly any gun in the Lord like channels out there

[@bamantioindrahidayat1165]

The war never happened if anaheim never exist in UC

[@MrAnca]

The only thing I didn't understand about hathaway was fckin Gigi, wtf did she wanted? Weird af, I didn't get her at all.

[@howardlam6181]

Just a lonely girl looking for companionship despite already having a sugar daddy.

[@Contredanse]

I know this comment is two years late, but there are large swaths of your video where Gundam jargon is used (names, places, etc.) with no text on screen and just the red mobile suit with the pink and blue background. As someone coming in without any prior Gundam knowledge at all (only brought in because I watched Hathaway and was curious about what led to the events in the movie), this was a very difficult video to follow. I would suggest either adding more supporting text and maybe an overall timeline on the video so it's easier for new comers to know where we are and what's happening. I would also add more photos supporting what you're currently talking about, e.g. when a Gundam model is referenced show the actual Gundam being referenced so it's easier to visualize the progress. I still appreciate your effort, though.

[@morenojames5868]

Be careful Bandai doesn't gank your vid like they did to Kaiju Corp. Great vid! Always like Hathaway Flash vids that take some time to set it out for folks

[@gunjiranation985]

I love Kaiju Corps videos. I am hoping this video is transformative enough that it will fall under fair use. Bandai did claim one of my other videos and I appealed and won. But this video got way more attention than I ever thought it would.

[@morenojames5868]

@@gunjiranation985 So far so good. It's Bandai being trigger happy either way, not you. You did really good here!

[@GarrestheWarrior]

So, is Unicorn before, during, or after Hathaway's insurgency?

[@mro-aviation]

Unicorn is UC 0096 Hathaway is UC 0105

[@blackace41]

UC0096 so Unicorn is just an after thought huh,lol

[@colin8696908]

Here is my question, who was the worse friend to Amero? Quess who betrayed earth and inadvertently got Amero's girlfriend killed. Or Noah who killed Amero's girlfriend and then later betrayed earth.

[@TitanNova90]

Hathaway and Quess is technically just civilian to Amuro not friends but I think Amuro doesn’t know Chan died during the time after Chan’s death. But both are the worse because Quess ran away due to jealousy of Chan and her hatred for the Federation. I recommend you reading MSG: CCA Beltorchika’s Children to understand Quess’s true thoughts towards the Federation (in my opinion but its not necessary). For Hathaway without him Chan’s Psycho-Frame warned Amuro of Char surprise attack when the Nu Gundam is in Axis destroying a thruster. So in summary both are whinny kids

[@howardlam6181]

Things are not that simple. Amuro's girlfriend fired a missile at Hathaway. If Quess didn't push Hathaway away and get infront of him to take the hit, Hathaway would have been killed instead, by Amuro's girlfriend no less.

[@icecreamdee]

Thank you 🙏🏼

[@novaeye6081]

So wait is there any neo zeon groups left

[@hailjuniea857]

The EXECUTION of this movie is very good

[@zakuguriin4521]

Gundam 0079 and Zeta Gundam are all you ever need. I love the rest of the animes in the Universal Century saga; however everything that came after these first 2 series has felt a bit off. Either you end up with tech that seems way too powerful for the time frame it is set in, or you have characters acting unlike themselves and contradicting all the story laid out in OG Gundam and Zeta.

[@quattrobajeena135]

Turn A is the nest

[@Blake-ld7mx]

@@quattrobajeena135 😑

[@SantorgoTheCorgo97]

So do you not need zz?

[@billythenarwhal1579]

After watching Zeta I went from liking CCA to HATING it, like why would Qua... Char do that?

[@kaldur11]

Agreed! After Zeta, I started disliking anything UC. I can’t finish ZZ for the life of me. CCA was a film that I wanted to love but ended up being hugely disappointed by it. Unicorn was pretty to look at but needlessly complicated.

[@nimblemomonga2311]

Subbed

[@gunjiranation985]

Thank you!

[@captaincosmopolitan5163]

Ah yes the grypes conflict and the rise of the tee tans and Hamond.

[@karmaaq5972]

Alright comments is it pronounced "Shar" or "Charr" like charred coal? I always pronounced with "Sh"

[@mrbonesaw90]

Its pronouced with Sh, Char is literally announciated in Japanese as "Sha" with the r almost sounding silent and in the english dub its "Shar".

[@johnacer1727]

I hope they make an anime series. Not a movie.

[@AG-en5y]

🔥🔥🔥

[@Shadow-gx8vg]

So Zeon at first wasn’t evil but actually was peace loving?

[@gearthehuman2115]

the Federation may corrupt, but also questing Zeon's way of "making peace"

[@nfldend501]

Thanks

[@shonuff7612]

I know it would have taken ALOT more work but it would have been a more entertaining video with more cut scenes that related to what you were narrating about

[@gunjiranation985]

Funny you said that. I did have cut scenes for every part. But when I was uploading this video it kept getting flagged for copyright. After re-editing 4 times and still being flagged. Itook them out and just rolled with it

[@whiski8357]

Char wasn't in Zeta tho...

[@gunjiranation985]

Yes he was

[@mrbonesaw90]

​@@gunjiranation985your sense of humor is weighed down by gravity 😂

[@KyussTheGreat]

Side 3 is on the other side of the sun not the moon.

[@gunjiranation985]

Munzo AKA side 3 is behind the moon. That is 100% a fact.

[@veeloger]

Great lore, sadly 🦄 gundam is created after Hathaway Flash hence not changing anything other than "beast of possibility"

[@mro-aviation]

No, the unicorn was in UC96, 3 years after Char's counterattack

[@Bloodark124]

@@mro-aviation He's talking about in terms of authoring the stories, not the story-chronology. The story of Hathaway's Flash was authored way before Unicorn (Gundam UC) did.

[@Vin.1904]

Kinda stupid idea to just drop an entire site while on the other hand you can just killed the earth federation leaders

[@howardlam6181]

Another one will take the dead one place.

[@NotTheWheel]

I do sincerely apologize but it didn't help me very much. The origin of Mafty is vague and unclear as are its members. I couldn't for example tell you the name of the guy with the goatee or girl with the brown hair and glasses name... or the girl with the orange short hair or the girl with the red shaggy hair "Emeralado" I think? There's this whole faction known as mafty and yet I don't know a thing about them and the only thing I can infer about their antifederation sentiments is in small portions "see it or you'll miss it" sections of the movie. Maybe this will be resolved when the other two installments are released but for me while the movie was good it sort of felt like an espionage film going no where and when the Movie Really "Begins" it ends.

[@shigesan4516]

This was so fucking helpful, I started gundam with chars counter attack and didn't know what really was going on, now I can watch the flash of hathaway

[@Mc-Derpulous]

Laundin bell?? Lol

[@Quattro-hn1cx]

Do more research on whos who and the smaller details

[@alessandrovillain6193]

If there's one absolute about UC, it's that I will always be confused when watching it.

[@mro-aviation]

Haha right?!?! Now that the original is condensed into the 3 movies along with CCA, I've re-watch them and leading up to Hathaway again because I was like, how he (Hathaway) turn out like this. Then the event's of CCA when he was thirsty and killed Amuro's girl while throwing a fit.

[@MrMattogreen25]

A lot of mistakes, especially with pronunciation, but pretty good overall

[@gundamnduke0]

who the fuck calls Char "char"? It's pronounced "shar"

[@gunjiranation985]

Get a life 🤡

[@markspc1285]

Who the fuck cares what an abbreviation of a fictional characters name is

[@totallyradwithjosie3225]

@@gunjiranation985 🧂

[@maxhadrian8680]

Is this show related to Anne Hathaway somehow?

[@joaoneto6216]

She was 3 when Hathaway was introduced in 1989(Char's counterattack), so no, just coincidence

[@joaoneto6216]

6 *

[@sonofabeej]

Kamille Biden (bay-den) Gryps (grayps) London Bell This is why I watch the dub. A little nitpick. Sorry! ✌️

[@gundamnduke0]

don't forget "Char"

[@kiepyon1]

Hathaway DID NOTHING WRONG!

[@totallyradwithjosie3225]

Chan disagrees.

[@howardlam6181]

@@totallyradwithjosie3225 Chan friendly fire first. Hathaway would have been killed by the missile she fired had Quess not sacreficed herself..

[@Ryhillchibulls]

No views to views

[@gunjiranation985]

Ikr!

[@mmilo131]

They just need to remake the original and reset the story....it is just too convuluted and this coming from somone who watched the og series zeta, chars counter attack, uc. They need to remake the story and really focus in more on the amuro and char story and make zeon a bit less villany . And delete all these unneccasary side tangents that result in nothing cause the status quo kind never shifts. Also stop switching MCs its seems pointless. It would be amazing and very topical with the whole israel palestine x russia ukraine.

[@Bokuzen035]

I'm even more confused now. This is really hard to follow. You introduced new names of stuff and people with out really explaining what or who they are. This is just a giant word salad. More explanation and even diagrams would help instead of blasting throw the story quickly as possible. I feel like you skipped giant chunks of info in the stories.

[@gunjiranation985]

Sorry bud. This was for people who have somewhat knowledge of the UC timeline .