The Mobile Suit Gundam (UC) Iceberg Explained

[@Pigpen_YT]

I ran out of room in the description. So here's the last couple of links I wanted to put in there but couldn't kzbin.info/www/bejne/gmWze3mel6aaoaM - Char's Daily Life live action commercial kzbin.info/www/bejne/r2S0l6poadeKisk - example of Numacchi and Osamu Wakai's impressions of Char and Amuro www.reddit.com/r/Gundam/comments/g592ad/i_dont_get_how_people_think_zeta_gundam_is/ & www.reddit.com/r/Gundam/comments/i2khng/rant_nine_women_nine_named_women_characters_die/ & gamefaqs.gamespot.com/boards/2000119-anime-and-manga-gundam/77750970?page=6 - threads about the women pilots in Gundam die a lot debate kzbin.info/www/bejne/pH_VnqauaLhprZY - Rerez's video on The War for Earth twitter.com/zeonicscans/status/1293302139800809472?lang=en - tweet going over Hue Carbine's original motives www.ign.com/articles/mobile-suit-gundam-movie-netflix-first-image-concept-art & ew.com/movies/jordan-vogt-roberts-e3-metal-gear-solid-movie-gundam-video/ - articles about live action Gundam film zeonic-republic.net/?page_id=8615 - article about the Kuntala misconception

[@Davybackdead]

How did you even manage to to run out of description

[@Pigpen_YT]

@@Davybackdead the description has a character limit

[@Davybackdead]

@@Pigpen_YT it’s just impressive that there is that many links and stuff

[@bemusedlist9242]

Guess nobody wants to sub too u sad because i love your vids man hope you have a great day

[@SkimoStories]

@@Pigpen_YT massive props for including all of these sources.

[@protagkun]

The source for Tomino's distaste for Victory and his depression issues probably comes from his book "Healing with Turn-A".

[@mikloridden8276]

Where can I get this book?

[@GEIZ-gp7cj]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA tomino really said "Imma wait for this mf death so I can shame the person beyond the grave"

[@srcoeiu6100]

Everything Tomino says simultaneously sounds incredibly fitting and unfitting for him

[@JOOSEBOXES]

2:35 As someone who owns a F91 gunpla it is indeed VERY small

[@parmesancheez6087]

I have not consumed a single ounce of gundam content in my lifetime, but best be damned im gonna watch this whole iceberg

[@woodrowwilder481]

if you need something to watch, and a good amount of time to set aside, the original UC Timeline stuff is pretty great. I'd say watch it in release order.

[@gregoryadessa2806]

Enjoy, my friend! It is the greatest franchise ever!

[@CHANN3L_NAME]

I’ve only watched the original series and 08th ms team

[@complexityinc.5167]

They capping to yo ass about the series, just watch 08th ms squad nigga

[@srcoeiu6100]

You should change that

[@eduardocardozopereira8325]

You released this video right in the middle of my Gundam phase. Impecable timing as always Pigpen.

[@thepronoob4039]

32:24 Note, it doesn't actually walk, it can simulate walking motions, but thanks to Square Cube Law, it's actually just held up by support beams and can't walk on land. Its still the coolest Gundam related thing ever, went there last year, almost came when I saw it move with Amuro's VA speaking.

[@CancelTeenTitansGO]

Love how the closest thing to a remastered version of Mobile Suit Gundam was the Hello Kitty collab they did with Sanrio back in 2020, 2/3 of the shorts are on YT, pretty good actually

[@haydenjohnw]

I went to the Gundam crisis attraction in 2010! As a non-Japanese speaker, it goes without saying that I did horribly, and barely understood the rules. I was mainly at the park to see the new “Evangelion World” area at the park, but the Gundam stuff was cool as well. I went through the gift shop too, it was awesome.

[@marklafrancis253]

I have a job interview today and have been super stressed. This video has helped me stay somewhat chill today. Thanks, man. Hopefully I can manifest the beast of possibility and win.

[@Pigpen_YT]

Best of luck!

[@hitachicordoba]

Hopefully your latent Newtype powers manifested during the interviews

[@traphimawari7760]

Don't worry, you can also be a newtype by taking a lot of drugs and become a cyber newtype 😁 that should help you summon the beast of possibility in an instant, I got a dealer at the projects 😂

[@yolewis1604]

pigpen always dropping videos when you need them the most

[@woodrowwilder481]

🙏

[@orngcreator6115]

Facts though.

[@jimejarcia]

never been more real

[@nshadex72]

So real

[@Che1seabluesdrogba11]

Whose pigpen

[@legion903rd9]

I honestly like to think that along with the build series potentially being Gundam Valhalla for the characters, but also every store has a model kit for every MS from every Gundam media, even if the MS never had a model kit or when Bandai decides to stop selling them, like the Geara Zulu’s or the Big Zam

[@The-Singularity-X01]

For the colony drops... the habitats do seem to vary in how they are laid out internally. The average occupancy of an O'Neill cylinder habitat(which is what the ones in the UC timeline generally are with... like a few exceptions) ranges from a few hundred thousand for a more rural configured habitat to over twenty million people for an urban one. Thus all together those five successful and one failed colony drop could range from the low millions(if all are of the rural configuration) to nearly two hundred million(in case all six are those of the urbanized configuration). It was stated/shown that every single colony that was involved in the colony drops had the people living inside gassed... so yeah all dead.

[@ianbarbosa6201]

1:23:01 By the way, Miharu's brother years later would become a test subject for the Psycho Gundam, and ultimately he was killed by a stroke caused by the Gundam (perhaps that's why Kai decided to help Karaba, since he is a spy and might have gained that information), and already in the part of the end of the iceberg... how come you didn't mention what happened to Marida before Unicorn...

[@gundam5281]

So...this whole time I was waiting for A third season of Thunderbolt that was never planned... fuck...

[@zhihuang9049]

Same!!!!! Now I’m appalled 😮

[@dainatalvirk6853]

now you know how it feels to be a fan of the Land Of The Lustrous.

[@char1363]

Fr especially when they leave it in a cliff hanger

[@Faynwulf]

Just read the manga. At least you'll know how it continues.

[@frommarswithmalice9174]

It hurts to be a fan of any Japanese form of entertainment. They made an art form of dropping the ball.

[@CJ-442]

I was aware of “Gundam Valhalla” theory and I really like it and choose to believe it’s canon. That means that all our favorite characters that died horrible or unnecessary deaths get a second chance at life where all the horrible wars they fought and died in are fiction and piloting mobile suits isn’t some grim duty of soldiers forced to kill or be killed but is instead done for purely for entertainment and the love of the sport and hobby.

[@orngcreator6115]

Pigpen always got your covered for a 12 hour shift of work with some quality content. Thanks again my good man.

[@cecilthegallade5472]

So glad to see a fellow Gundam Zeta enjoyer.

[@Pigpen_YT]

Zeta the goat

[@cecilthegallade5472]

I so wish they'd bring back Kamille in some way. And man I wanna get a Hyaku shiki Ps2

[@False_Convoy]

Zeta is peak

[@trashboat5388]

@@cecilthegallade5472why he’s a doctor now

[@MidnyteBlaze]

20:07 THAT’S THE MS THAT REFLECTS PHYSICAL!

[@JahleelSingh]

Arahabaki looking ahh🤣

[@renzocater3089]

Yeah i thought as well It repel Phys!!

[@Jazzimus]

thanks for dropping this, i literally completed UC gundam like 3 hours ago

[@TheCakesCup26]

This video came out at the perfect time, I’m just now getting back into Gundam and now this is gonna drag me back into it fully. Wonderful.

[@justincholos.balisang6884]

2:00:45 I think it was in the Unicorn prequel manga, though that itself might not be canon as well.

[@Enigamis]

Hell yeah love to see a new iceberg on my timeline. Been slowly watching for the last few days. Great work as always!

[@thesigmadragon8467]

I have been looking for a Gundam Iceberg. Thank you so much for making this

[@brunfranc]

Cool, new Pigpen video. I had no idea the Skull Island guy is making a Gundam film in addition to a Metal gear movie, thats really sick. by the way, i highly recommend Iron Blooded Orphans, so good.

[@wolfgangervin2582]

08th MS Team is also a great start if you want to dive right into UC.

[@androyus]

Thanks for your effort, ma dude. I'm an avid Gundam fan, yet I still found a handful of new info from this. Also, I didn't expect for you to clip/quoted my forum comments in your video 😅

[@gunzamn]

Pigpen as a massive Gundam fan I've been wanting this for ages. I'd speak for all of us when I say that we would love a part two of the Gundam iceberg. Also I'm building the MG Alex Gundam while watching this. Love U pigpen

[@salmanmahyuddin8384]

42:56 this shot of the colony drop is straight up eerie. especially when you remembered how it went in the show; sudden silence as the battle raged on, no music, just the colony slowly descending upon dublin.

[@InfinityDude88]

Great video! Having watched the majority of Gundam series I knew just about everything until tier 3, but man some of the stuff near the end was obscure. I've only read a handful of the manga so most of that information was new to me. Thanks again for the informative video!

[@Demopanz]

I needed something pleasant to listen too while i clean up, convenient timing, even without interest in the topic, i enjoy your stuff enough to just have it in the background and go "interesting" lol

[@cinnamonmink3736]

1:52:36 - if anyone is curious “Avenir” is literally just French for “Future” so count that as another instance of time travel in the Universal Century

[@God_gundam36]

Hey I know you said your not expected this video to get many views, but I want you to know that I super appreciate a video like this since dispute it's popularity gundam rarely gets its content broken down and discussed on this type of scale on KZbin

[@ogwancannoli]

Take a shot every time Pigpen says "however." Just a light joke lol, great video as always.

[@codylester7489]

I may not seen any Gundam shows and don't know much about the series, but this was a good Iceberg to watch to the end. I had fun learning about the Gundam series (at lest the UC stuff). Hope to see a another Gundam Iceberg about the other continuities in the future.

[@angellara7040]

If I remember correctly the timeline was released along side gundam info streaming a bunch of gundam stuff for a while, it's basically just promo to watch a bunch of movies on KZbin

[@Jazzimus]

yo i finally completed this after 1 day, amazing video. btw if you haven't seen turn A (i dont remember you mentioning it in the list at the end), i highly recommend it. its tied with zeta as my favorite gundam and is in my top 5 anime of all time. its truly heavenly

[@0NiKiSUxNuLL838]

this channel got me into gundam and other mechas

[@SoloWing88]

That was fast

[@stefilordofsmugness4108]

Char and Amuro only alive in the Super Robot Wars continuities, more recently SRW30, where he goes back being Qatro.

[@brianwalsh1339]

35:00 I don’t think I’ve ever been mentally flashbanged before, but hearing the words “reclaiming the holy land for the Jewish people” in a Gundam video was certainly… shocking…

[@gigaslave]

32:28 The Yokohama Gundam has finally been decommissioned in 2024. It's also the ULTIMATE Perfect Grade Gundam, complete with a matching Action Base stand.

[@lanzer22]

You're doing god's work. Great job from the half dozen UC Gundam fans that got recommended this. :)

[@solastro5595]

I guess with thunderbolt, it is like the marvel cinematic universe where most things live action is considered canon. The animated continuity is considered canon. The company is probably not very picky about small inconsistencies as well.

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

I guess Thunderbolt is Semi canon, where parts of it actually happened but things that contradict later enteries isn't canon, Kinda like 40K where Contradictions are just swept under the rug, its just that in 40K its explained as in Universe Propaganda, Folktails or simple Misreporting. (Record Keepers in 40K are infamous for being incompetent due to a Bloated Burocracy, infact te Burocracy in the setting in general has major issues and the Timeline is so vast that the Story was eventually corrupted in the long game of Telephone, I guess you can headcanon UC Gundam the same.)

[@solastro5595]

@forickgrimaldus8301 proabably sunrise just don't care about small inconsistencies.

[@forickgrimaldus8301]

@@solastro5595 thats basically what I said, if they are asked about inconsistancis they will just make elements the Contradict semi canon and not need to explain anything

[@paulheap1982]

It's also worth noting that can isn't as important than in the west. The Japanese don't even have an equivalent trem for Canon.

[@williamkwl6153]

Eh, it's simpler than that, there's consistent canon timeline Then there's alternate universe of said Canon timeline like Thunderbolt and Origin

[@_Jakepay_]

I just got into making Gundams last year and this is what I needed while making more lol

[@johnwiks2597]

My love for Gundam(and anime in general) began with Toonami airing Gundam Wing, after school. They showed Mobile Suit Gundam a little after that. Then Adult swim had the excellent Gundam 0083. Those were some great years.

[@juliagoodwin9510]

The Colony Drop section made me wince. I mean, Jesus Christ, that's a lot of people!

[@jakehernandez4923]

Hands down u and wendigoon are the best iceberg KZbinrs alive

[@IntrigueAndWhimsy]

Funny, I've recently been getting back into Gundam. Definitely the vibe right now!

[@johnfields4796]

This was a fun video, and I'm glad you made it I hope it met/meets your performance expectations. \

[@Pigpen_YT]

It did pretty much as expected. Gundam just isn’t super popular on youtube. Sad but I knew what I was getting into

[@TokyoFilthy]

this was a great iceberg, thanks for the video it was super well made

[@mattguy1773]

Gundam is just such a masterpiece Also the gundam inspired armor in halo 2 anniversary is pretty cool

[@tiffany-chan1235]

Yes! Finally a Gundam Iceberg! Edit: Also holy shit good iceberg, honestly the only thing missing from this iceberg is the bizarre parody magical girl manga Magical Ensign Blaster Mari

[@cwzr97]

Don't usually comment but made it to the end of the video and had to say thanks for making this! I love Gundam lore and there isn't as much content on KZbin as I'd wish so this was awesome. It'd be so cool if we ever got anymore icebergs on the other timelines so please put me down as someone who'd be super interested if you ever made another one! I'm gonna go check out your other videos now :)

[@yoekt]

FINALLY! I've been waiting for an iceberg video breaking down the series' trivia! Thank you!

[@PaleoPal_77]

Around Thirty Office Worker Haman-Sama is incredibly fun and has a ton of references and Easter eggs. Some recent chapters have background cameos from Domon and Rain as well as Orga and Mika. Elite manga, if you ask me

[@OmegaTaishu]

Watched all of it. Enjoyed it a lot! Thanks for the hard work!

[@arvisterumi55]

I'd like to see another Gundam iceberg from you. great video!

[@gundam5281]

How on Earth did the Gundsm franchise not get any form of Iceberg video before?!

[@GaiaGaiyus]

Speaking as a representative of the Gaia Gear Community. We salute your inclusion of this hidden gem. 🫡😇

[@pans0rnaut191]

10:55 is that a starship trooper, or am I crazy?

[@timeregent17]

When I was younger, I loved Gundam, but I never knew what it was. I'd see the Kits at Barns & Nobel, and think wow cool I want one. Then, about ten years later, I finally got around to watching them. (I bought a lot of kits before I ever watched Gundam.)

[@acegamerultragamer1532]

Don't know that much aside from a couple of UC movies, Unicorn, & Witch from Mercury, but I thought this was really solid! Can't wait to see what the next Remastered Iceberg is!

[@jules5315]

More pls, your content makes my day ! Thanks and take it easy bro

[@Rexillian]

This Video was great! keep up the good work, love it! greetings from Germany

[@cogrunner6763]

I never would have thought you'd make a Gundam iceberg

[@IILuffyyy]

Hey Pigpen, fire vid like always, as someone who does something similar, I was just wondering for the background footage you use, do you have to individually ask the people for permission or does it fall under fair use?

[@Pigpen_YT]

Fair use. It’s video game cutscenes and I make sure to let people know I did not record the cutscenes. I’ve been linking them in the description for years and now am also mentioning them in the video (which I should’ve been doing)

[@AlienRino]

Here to help the algorithm since I’m not as big of a fan of gundam :)

[@andreocasio6098]

While I knew a lot of this information already, there’s still info in here that’s new to me like the source of kamile becoming a doctor I always thought that was something fans made up, also thanks for giving me more reasons to hate for the barrel even more than I already did lol

[@nshadex72]

Finally a Pigpen Gundam Iceberg I've been waiting for this a long time we are eating good tonight 😄😄

[@jetstar245]

GunDAMN another good vid thanks man :3

[@Aspooninthetrunk]

Fingers crossed 97 gets us an X-men iceberg next. Thanks for the content

[@Pigpen_YT]

not next but X-Men iceberg will be happening in the next few months

[@bilbofaggens4507]

Babe wake up Pigpen dropped another iceberg video

[@anitab5401]

Doozy Bots haunts me as such a huge what could have been

[@alexhuduma9474]

You don't need to see more of the other shows to do videos about them ... yet. With UC, there's enough material you can find on the gundam wiki for, at least, another video. And that could be about the mangas (like Moon, Despair Memory, etc) and games, theres other behind the scenes ideas, etc :))

[@meikisaragi1445]

I love that Judau Isn't in the thumbnail while Haman is.

[@Pigpen_YT]

I like Haman more and she’s mentioned far more in this video than Judau

[@angellara7040]

I wasn't expecting this. Im super excited

[@The-Singularity-X01]

Given the sheer... comprehensiveness of this video, I really wanna see a proper explanation of the entire UC timeline framed as a sort of history lecture, from year 0001 up to the last 'thing' that is known to have happened. That being in U.C. 0653, the Dandellion(an interstellar ship) arrives in Proxima Centauri.

[@HerbCoswellBornAgain]

Yeah man, great vid as always. I have two suggestions for a future Iceberg. A Disney and Pixar Iceberg (like, just do Disney and Pixar in one Iceberg). And a Dreamworks Iceberg.

[@angellara7040]

1:06:40 you missed that this was also the first and only time the crossbones gundam was animated

[@theblackunicorn261]

Really funny to imagine that Rambo Ral, a master tactician and expert at guerilla warfare, a man that escaped the destroyed Gouf with a grappling hook and only died in combat after being shot, escaping, and going on his own terms with a grenade, went to Gundam Valhalla and decided to build Gunpla and go after Rinko Iori

[@Photon-bq4mt]

funny thing about char clones, the idea of char actually came from a few older mecha series Yuusha Raideen from 1975 had the character Prince Sharkin as it's main antagonist, who looks extremely similar to char even down to the mask and similar name; later on sunrise would produce the Robot Romance trilogy helmed by Tadao Nagahama who worked with Tomino on Raideen, and while there is alot of DNA in this series that would eventually go into gundam what's important here is that each series had a similar blonde haired alien antagonist who would get more development as the series goes on.

[@Quote_ation]

RIP life-sized Nu Gundam FF at Gundam Side-F

[@noahc0219]

Pls do another one!!! I’ve been waiting for a iceberg about gundam!!!!!

[@primusvsunicron1]

the Alex Gundam survived the OYW and became the Tristan Gundam

[@Kyranox]

thank you pigpen for the gundam content

[@whyjon2990]

48 min on a good vid and i get recommended another good vid. great day for gundam

[@fruckles]

Thank you for all of the sources in the description. ☕🐝🇺🇸

[@Plaprad]

I remember G-Savior. Still got the DVD. I do remember reading somewhere at the time that it was supposed to be a big deal because Gundam was just getting big in the West. Sunrise was apparently so confident that they just let the Canadians do whatever. Until they saw the first cut. Apparently, the execs from Sunrise were so upset they banned any use of the name Gundam, or anything else tying it to Gundam and just allowed it's release to recoup a bit of what they spent. No idea if it's true, but explains a few things.

[@HypErSHIN29]

Thanks For Doing My Request

[@jagerzaku9160]

Gee I wonder why Katejinas mech is coloured that shade of pink! 🙂

[@NOIDEDU]

To all people trying to get into gundam. Dont think to hard about timelines and continueties, it doesnt matter. Just watch in release order.

[@paulheap1982]

Yeah, the obsession of what's canon or not is more of a western thing.

[@ph43draaa]

Just watch whatever looks coolest to you

[@NOIDEDU]

@@ph43draaa thats terrible advice atleast for gundam

[@cabnbeeschurgr]

Even just the oyw is all messed up. I'd say most stuff in between msg and cca is pretty stable, but late uc gets messy too

[@CoracaoAcidental98]

​@@NOIDEDU Not really considering how many people of the Gundam community watch in release order and still don't understand anything and put batshit insane opinions online. Watch whatever Gundam you find the coolest, who cares.

[@pantsonpyre]

I appreciate how often you really pronounced "You see" as an exaggerated UC.

[@Melty-K]

0080 at rank one was unexpected. Imo its one of the best anime ever made. Surprised it got a kinda lukewarm reception

[@cynicalthoughts]

Yesss i just rewatched the superman iceberg yesterday mate.

[@sakkoyaba4482]

U have earned my sub with not just this but all of yo iceberg

[@kaguya6900]

There was another colony drop not mentioned by you. Kamille finds Haro in the remnants of a colony drop on the moon before the actual attempted colony drop that occurred in Zeta that you already mentioned. Odds are the colony drop on the moon observed by Kamille and Emma did not claim any lives though, as no one ever explained any history regarding it, but it definitely happened in between MSG and Zeta since there was a probably-mass-produced-toy Haro inside it.

[@gabrielporto5610]

Damn boy. Didn't see this coming but as I love Gundam this very welcome

[@elijahweeks2816]

Didnt know you are into gundam. Awesome. Nice taste with G Gundam

[@domanatepredator1577]

Gundam is such a huge series with all its spinoffs, books, and shows that it’s impossible to start at. Then once you get into the series, and read or wish certain things to happen. You get into this habit of making your own scenario where you want Amaro to get together with sayla. But you don’t want him to die at the battle of Abou-ko. So just saying to those who watch gundam, you can make up your own scenarios, hell make it your own cannon story. Just remember every time you rewatch it, it’s gonna be different than your own interpretation. Great video btw, there’s definitely a lot of stuff I didn’t know.

[@srcoeiu6100]

It's really not impossible to start though, the ideal order is right there, 79-CCA and then you can watch anything except SEED Destiny

[@realmarkinator]

​@@srcoeiu6100I guess he just means that most people find it daunting to start. I mean yeah I kinda get it since the franchise is massive. Also you don't need to watch UC before the AU's. The whole point of the AU's is to have a series that anyone can watch without watching the massive backlog of UC first.

[@flatheadgg2443]

I kinda love the idea of zeon putting a giant artificially bred brain into their newtype machines. Thinking about it, it kinda makes a lot of sense since by that point in time the psycommu system wasn't yet fully developed so giving the mobile armour a (presumably) cloned newtype brain would allow the pilot to link up faster and control it much smoother and easier via telepathy. Also zeon being so desperate to win the war they resort to creating manmade horrrs beyond comprehension just seems very fitting.

[@Beepz-25]

God thank you I’ve waited for this 🙏