Guns for the Pope's Police: Mazzocchi Pinfire Revolver

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@ryanpenrod1859
@ryanpenrod1859 9 ай бұрын
Pietro, Giuseppe and Luigi has to be the most Italian trio of names possible.
@danielbehrendt9683
@danielbehrendt9683 9 ай бұрын
pete, joe, and lou
@TheCatBilbo
@TheCatBilbo 9 ай бұрын
​@@danielbehrendt9683Hey! You disrespecting us by not capitalising our names?! Why, I oughta'...
@QuellicheilMarza
@QuellicheilMarza 9 ай бұрын
It's Piero
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 9 ай бұрын
Ninja turtlesish.
@_Art.Vandelay
@_Art.Vandelay 9 ай бұрын
Bastards got a hold of my technical sketches from when I was 4
@handlethisshitainttwitternigga
@handlethisshitainttwitternigga 9 ай бұрын
​@@UncleSam-7.62other Italians mostly.
@gilmour6754
@gilmour6754 9 ай бұрын
Hah, I was wondering why this looked familiar and yeah, it looks like a revolver a kid would draw.
@timorueegg9746
@timorueegg9746 9 ай бұрын
Looks like a lego revolver
@cooperharrell6984
@cooperharrell6984 9 ай бұрын
Ngl that’s a pretty accurate sum of it
@mcperson8455
@mcperson8455 9 ай бұрын
dude thats fucking hilarious. Like the Indiana Jones ones? I see it!
@ethanspaziani1070
@ethanspaziani1070 9 ай бұрын
Dam you are right
@TheKastus17
@TheKastus17 9 ай бұрын
Lego revolver piece confirmed catholic
@PewKittens
@PewKittens 9 ай бұрын
Does the Lego Pope have inflexible elbows?
@-Master_Of_Disaster
@-Master_Of_Disaster 9 ай бұрын
I'm amazed after all these years of Ian showing and explaining guns I've never seen before, that he still finds more forgotten guns. How many are remaining Ian? Thanks for everything so far. You truly are a blessing for the gun world.
@mattmorrisson9607
@mattmorrisson9607 9 ай бұрын
I'm convinced that Ian has one of those memory erasing flashing things from Men In Black hidden in each video so we always think there's new guns, but in actuality, there's only like 10
@edwalmsley1401
@edwalmsley1401 9 ай бұрын
He's never going to run out of oddities,Pakistan is still making new wierd one offs everyday
@cherrygirlw
@cherrygirlw 9 ай бұрын
I think he forgot
@williestyle35
@williestyle35 9 ай бұрын
How many remaining? Goodness, there has to be at least a few hundred weapons left that would fit "Forgotten Weapons" . It all depends what Ian can ; actually find, get access to, research, and film, that determines how long he can keep going.
@edwalmsley1401
@edwalmsley1401 9 ай бұрын
@@mattmorrisson9607 he doest because bergman month is permanently etched in my memory 🤣😂🤣
@sikeresenangolul
@sikeresenangolul 9 ай бұрын
Officially referred to as the Pope's Police, but everybody just calls it the Po-Po
@MrEnollx
@MrEnollx 9 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@greycatturtle7132
@greycatturtle7132 9 ай бұрын
XD
@thesmokinggun-v4o
@thesmokinggun-v4o 9 ай бұрын
Tinha uma avacalhada feia pra dedeu aqui na minha região, ela tinha sonhado com o popo nas idas dos 40 e poucos anos, freira virgem e muito feia. Atiraram nela com socasocad de grande furo calibro 16 pá ser mais exato
@michaelmoorrees3585
@michaelmoorrees3585 9 ай бұрын
You get the Blue Ribbon ! Never let truth interfere with a good story.
@amendable5401
@amendable5401 9 ай бұрын
Well done. Well done.
@Swindle1984
@Swindle1984 9 ай бұрын
The cylinder rotating counter-clockwise makes sense. Most loading gate revolvers open on the right, to be loaded with the dominant hand while held in the off hand; this one opens on the left, to be loaded with the off hand like modern swing cylinder revolvers. Rotating counter-clockwise means you won't have a live round under the hammer until you load your sixth shot, and in a pinfire gun that's extremely important because the firing pin on each cartridge is exposed and prone to going off when struck. It's an incredibly simple, but effective, safety mechanism to prevent some dork from accidentally firing his gun while reloading.
@Swindle1984
@Swindle1984 9 ай бұрын
This is also an extremely smooth, almost melted/rounded off, revolver. Combine that with the small sights, spur trigger instead of a trigger guard, and unfluted cylinder, and it makes me think it was designed to get in and out of a holster smoothly without snagging, both useful for a Gendarmerie who needs to draw his gun quickly and a useful safety feature to prevent some idiot from accidentally firing his gun while holstering it, which continues to be a concern for police officers to this day. Honestly, with the little quality of life features like the V-spring having a notch to hold it in place, the lanyard ring doubling as an ejector rod and cleaning rod, the ease of disassembly, etc. this is a very well thought out little revolver and probably an excellent choice for an 1800's police force.
@PurdueFansAnon
@PurdueFansAnon 9 ай бұрын
Not gonna lie, I always love when Ian breaks out something from the Papal States or Swiss Guard.
@oddball_the_blue
@oddball_the_blue 9 ай бұрын
Just when you thought Ian had plugged the depths of forgotten weapons... He comes back with this little gem.
@JohnSmith-yv6eq
@JohnSmith-yv6eq 9 ай бұрын
He is a real plunger...to the depths and beyond!
@garrysekelli6776
@garrysekelli6776 9 ай бұрын
Hopefully he doesn't get plugged.
@kenibnanak5554
@kenibnanak5554 9 ай бұрын
And it isn't even French. :)
@concinnus
@concinnus 9 ай бұрын
Plumbed.
@iaial0
@iaial0 9 ай бұрын
Putting once again the Forgotten in Forgotten Weapons
@ZGryphon
@ZGryphon 9 ай бұрын
"The Pope? Bah. How many divisions has he got?" "Less than one, Comrade Stalin, but they do all have these sweet pinfire revolvers."
@curlyfreis
@curlyfreis 9 ай бұрын
The holy Handgun is clearly a better choice against a Rabbit.
@KoKoS87
@KoKoS87 9 ай бұрын
Or snake iykyk
@Handsy_McGee
@Handsy_McGee 9 ай бұрын
You're free to count all the way to six! Technology is wild
@greycatturtle7132
@greycatturtle7132 9 ай бұрын
XD
@timinwsac
@timinwsac 9 ай бұрын
A better choice would be the holy hand grenade.
@jdee3421
@jdee3421 9 ай бұрын
But could you hit a coconut being carried by an African swallow?
@The_Kentuckian
@The_Kentuckian 8 ай бұрын
"Papacy went looking for a Pistol" is definitely the title of a underground rock song.
@johnsanko4136
@johnsanko4136 9 ай бұрын
I always enjoy seeing the late 1800s designs, as so much needed to be done without small, fine springs. This revolver has a delightfully elegant design.
@markasimmons
@markasimmons 9 ай бұрын
11:20 Between 1866 and 1870 the Papal Lira, the Italian Lira, and the French Franc were all fixed at the same value. Exchange rate in 1868 was 2 Francs to the Dollar: so each gun cost $28.
@dfpguitar
@dfpguitar 9 ай бұрын
If that is adjusted for inflation already it's a bargain. Even at wholesale cost. $28 would about pay for one hour of skilled labour today.
@markasimmons
@markasimmons 9 ай бұрын
@@dfpguitar That's the cost in 1868, which makes it comparable then with the prices of higher end Colts and various rifles. Not cheap at the time. (Equivalent value of $28 today would be $595 adjusted for inflation. But this doesn't always reflect affordability for someone living then on a average wage. Labour value in 1868 nearer to $5k. Not a cheap option, but I suppose Pope's not short of cash).
@Swindle1984
@Swindle1984 9 ай бұрын
@@markasimmons Correct. At the time, a good saddle horse cost between $75 and $100, and was the equivalent of a car today. Colt got in trouble for price gouging during the Civil War when they were charging $60 per revolver for the Union army; after the war, the revolvers were roughly half as expensive, and their cheaper models like the 1849 Pocket were less expensive than that.
@thelaughinghyenas8465
@thelaughinghyenas8465 9 ай бұрын
Per the official definition, there were 4.65 grams of silver per 1868 Papal lira (post-devaluation). Therefore, 56 papal lire came to 260.4 grams of pure silver. For a value, a US silver dollar produced at the time weighed 26.73 grams and was 90% pure silver so it had about 24 grams of pure silver. The bullion value was more like $10.50 to $11 in silver, nowhere close to $28. You can cross check that with Wikipedia's explanation of the Papal lira, complete with devalued bullion amount. At today's spot value (2024-01-22) a gram of silver is worth about $0.71. That puts the value of the whole gun at roughly $186. I guess that roughly translates the Papal state police issuing their officers Hi-point .380s or Ruger LCP's.
@Dominic1962
@Dominic1962 9 ай бұрын
@@thelaughinghyenas8465 But silver bullion valuation doesn’t tell the whole story either. There are tons of things to factor in. Basically, they weren’t cheap but they also weren’t high end, which isn’t really saying much either.
@AaBb-jt1fg
@AaBb-jt1fg 9 ай бұрын
I love when forgotten weapons makes videos about these smaller german and italian pre unification states. Tnks for the simple yet awesome presentation.
@rain8767
@rain8767 9 ай бұрын
This is exactly what I envision a holy weapon would look like. Upon looking at it you know it's gonna deal some holy damage.
@dwightdhansen
@dwightdhansen 9 ай бұрын
+10 holy damage
@ThomasVvV
@ThomasVvV 9 ай бұрын
Prevents skeletons from gettin revived
@RebinRed21
@RebinRed21 9 ай бұрын
@@dwightdhansenyou beat me to it 😂👍🏼
@garrysekelli6776
@garrysekelli6776 9 ай бұрын
Sends to heaven quickly.
@philhawley1219
@philhawley1219 9 ай бұрын
And next week Ian will be reviewing the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch.
@MrPanzerDragoon
@MrPanzerDragoon 9 ай бұрын
Mario is going to be pissed when he finds out his brother Luigi is running a side hustle business in the arms industry. lol
@TemperedMedia
@TemperedMedia 9 ай бұрын
Nah, Mazzochi Bros is their codename. Mario was footing the coin for seed money. Perks of being in with the royal family.
@MrPanzerDragoon
@MrPanzerDragoon 9 ай бұрын
@@TemperedMedia HAHAHA!
@thevoxofreason8468
@thevoxofreason8468 9 ай бұрын
The older I get, the more fascinated I become with older firearms. Great vid.
@DougthebearRichards
@DougthebearRichards 9 ай бұрын
Ian is more than an expert gunsmith with a penchant for historical weapons, he again shows here an understanding of history.
@HarveyDangerLurker
@HarveyDangerLurker 9 ай бұрын
Neat, it is amazing how simple this firearm is.
@stefanmolnapor910
@stefanmolnapor910 9 ай бұрын
I'm proud to be a Okie from Mazzocchi! A place where even squares can have a ball That is Beautiful!
@thefattertheratter45
@thefattertheratter45 9 ай бұрын
An actual literal holy weapon
@myfaceismyshield5963
@myfaceismyshield5963 9 ай бұрын
Well, literally not... you use the word literal too liberally xD
@CharlesYuditsky
@CharlesYuditsky 9 ай бұрын
Next up, the Holy hand grenade of Antioch
@nobodynoone2500
@nobodynoone2500 9 ай бұрын
Nothing holy about the vatician or pope.
@Dominic1962
@Dominic1962 9 ай бұрын
@@nobodynoone2500 Lol, found the Babylon Mystery Religion believer…
@danielk9906
@danielk9906 9 ай бұрын
Gotta say this looks very much handmade, with much care and proficiency, those parts really fit together well and smooth
@iatsechannel5255
@iatsechannel5255 9 ай бұрын
What a great pleasure! A sweet and elegant pistol with a concise history lesson. Brilliant job. Congrats.
@rotwang2000
@rotwang2000 9 ай бұрын
Seeing the hammer I suddenly wondered if there ever was a revolver that had a hammer built into the frame to strike from below.
@TheKickassK
@TheKickassK 9 ай бұрын
There are underhammer guns but I think most of them are single shot
@LevinQGame
@LevinQGame 9 ай бұрын
Not quite the same idea you're contemplating but turret revolvers like the Cochran and Daniel's hammer from the bottom.
@johnsanko4136
@johnsanko4136 9 ай бұрын
It's a weird one, but the Mateba Unica 6 has a hammer like what you're asking. It's also a semi-auto revolver. Ian did a video on it before.
@rotwang2000
@rotwang2000 9 ай бұрын
@@johnsanko4136 Yeah the Mateba came to mind shortly after I posted my comment, but I was considering older revolvers who were often far more diverse than what we may have today.
@HanSolo__
@HanSolo__ 9 ай бұрын
@@LevinQGame Looked at the H&C Daniels breech-loading .40 under hammer gun. What a sleek looking rifle.
@rofljohn23
@rofljohn23 9 ай бұрын
Fascinating little piece! Between the somewhat “unfinished” look (lack of cylinder fluting, miserable sights etc) and the furious marking of every single surface, it reminds me of those Chinese mystery pistols you covered back in the day.
@scottmccrea1873
@scottmccrea1873 9 ай бұрын
Castel Sant'Angelo was originally Hadrian's tomb.
@armorer94
@armorer94 9 ай бұрын
After the fall of Rome, ol' Hadrian didn't need it no more, so....
@scottmccrea1873
@scottmccrea1873 9 ай бұрын
@@armorer94 true!
@akinma
@akinma 9 ай бұрын
That is very intriguing little gun. I wish someone made a replica of it so we could see it fired. I doubt any few owner's of such guns were willing to lend an original for firing...
@philhawley1219
@philhawley1219 9 ай бұрын
Where can you find pin fire cartridges these days?
@akinma
@akinma 9 ай бұрын
@@philhawley1219 I dunno, but I'm sure someone makes them. Not necessarily for sale though. They are not rocket science after all and even rockets are made...
@jailbird1133
@jailbird1133 9 ай бұрын
​@@philhawley1219there are a few individuals in the US that make them to order, but they are extremely expensive.
@greendoodily
@greendoodily 9 ай бұрын
This one has a wicked crack in the frame, so I wouldn't recommend it!
@ss181292
@ss181292 9 ай бұрын
Nice shield around the base of the cylinder to protect the pins against accidental bump and discharge. Neat!
@HurricaneOK1
@HurricaneOK1 9 ай бұрын
Imagine how pimped out they would be if the Pope was armed and always carried personal, Pope-ified pair of revolvers.
@zc8211
@zc8211 9 ай бұрын
I feel like Ivory gripped, nickel plated SAA's with gold engravings featuring bible verses like "Blessed are the peacemakers" would be suitably popeified and be absolutely baller.
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 9 ай бұрын
Arround 1500, pope Julius ll went into Battle in full plate Armour, armed with a short mace as sidesrm and a twohanded mace as main weapon. No sword, because in bible is written: Those one, who draws a sword, will die from a sword.
@wraithcadmus
@wraithcadmus 9 ай бұрын
All I can think of is having Latin put on with damascene, but I play too much 40K. Hey 40K's aesthetic owes a lot to High Anglican which is Catholicism with the serials filed off.
@michaeltempsch5282
@michaeltempsch5282 9 ай бұрын
​@@brittakriep2938So just like it doesnt say anything about knee caps (according to Shepherd Book), it also fails to mention maces... 🤔
@cloudkitt
@cloudkitt 9 ай бұрын
@@brittakriep2938 lol, there's some rules lawyering for you
@carlosvillarroel4168
@carlosvillarroel4168 9 ай бұрын
The value of 50 Papal Lira: One dollar was approximately five liras, in silver value, so 50 were about 10 dollars. A Colt navy cost 13 dollars in 1872.
@ElChris816
@ElChris816 9 ай бұрын
That's an interesting little pistol. Every piece of this firearm is handmade, and it's amazing. These are my favorite types of firearm; where an idea moves along to creation.
@Ravishrex1
@Ravishrex1 9 ай бұрын
I could see John Constantine using this. +6 holy damage .
@lorenzmaut3708
@lorenzmaut3708 9 ай бұрын
Interesting to know that the papal states had a long history of existing and controlling a territory on their own, even if that territory was usually divided in vassals or subjects. The Catholic church was an administrative organization, and they had a lot more power that people imagine, much more than the religious aspect.
@causewaykayak
@causewaykayak 9 ай бұрын
The papacy launched the Crusades. Scarcely peacemakers when it didn't suit them. Wasn't it the Fascist dictator Mussolini that gave the Vatican City nation state status which they use today to qualify for a seat at the International table. ?
@IamOutOfNames
@IamOutOfNames 9 ай бұрын
And also adds important context to the near constant opposition to the power catholic clergy had in other countries, historically catholic church was major land holder all over europe.
@causewaykayak
@causewaykayak 9 ай бұрын
@@IamOutOfNames Ian stated that the Priests running it all had need for armed police for internal security. That sounds about right. Disarm the people and arm the security detachments. They are still very much into guns ... Swiss Guard para militaries. Not just ornaments.
@Dominic1962
@Dominic1962 9 ай бұрын
@@causewaykayak Back then the people could own arms in the Papal States and all of Europe. Many didn’t because guns were expensive but it was way easier for them then than now.
@Theduckwebcomics
@Theduckwebcomics 9 ай бұрын
​@@causewaykayaknothing to do with disarming people, it's just that their police force needed weapons.
@TheHylianBatman
@TheHylianBatman 9 ай бұрын
It's always neat to see Papal arms. The Papal States is such a unique part of history.
@armoredman
@armoredman 9 ай бұрын
That is the cleanest revolver I have ever seen. Nifty video, thank you
@HoerGenuss-n5n
@HoerGenuss-n5n 9 ай бұрын
I am pretty shure the rod in the grip is thread on the top to screw a brush on to clean youre gun after fireing it and because the rod is usable as a ejecter rod and a belt attachment too....the rod is in the grip for belt and eject using in service and after using at home also the rod for the cleaning brush so one part has 3 functions.... Pretty smart design:)
@bobhill3941
@bobhill3941 9 ай бұрын
Great revolver and history on it and the Vatican, thanks as always, this would be cool in the revolver class BUG match!
@vertigo4236
@vertigo4236 9 ай бұрын
+5 against the undead Double damage against demons and devils
@michaelman957
@michaelman957 9 ай бұрын
Ian is very relaxing to listen to.
@Immortal..
@Immortal.. 8 ай бұрын
The Papal Lira was based off the silver price as the coins issued were made from silver. Converting the mass over with todays silver price (historic low though) we get 56PL≈188USD. Adjusting for the higher silver price at the time we get todays equivalent value of ≈317USD per gun and ≈790k USD for the entire contract
@kobewatson8758
@kobewatson8758 9 ай бұрын
I often wonder does Ian ever have any ‘ oh shit I don’t know how to put this back together’ moments
@NikoMoraKamu
@NikoMoraKamu 9 ай бұрын
the thread on the cleaning rod is for the full auto version , you screw the rod to the barrell and acts as a forward grip to help control the recoil
@absolutelybased3251
@absolutelybased3251 8 ай бұрын
The gun deals +5 Holy damage
@spaceman6215
@spaceman6215 9 ай бұрын
I would agree with your caption about the threaded jag. Its likely a brush was carried in the holster alongside it. But a black powder gun was never kept far from cleaning kit in this period i can't imagine. So i would agree based on its length and the thread being less than the threat at the bottom of the rod itself.
@spencerbaldock4969
@spencerbaldock4969 9 ай бұрын
Finally! This is the kind of weird ass gun that made me fall in love with your channel!
@1972glm
@1972glm 9 ай бұрын
Looks like a revolver drawn by an artist who knows little of firearms in the 19th century. Lots of paintings with weirdly proportioned revolvers around that time period, and this looks like one come to life
@andrewm5840
@andrewm5840 9 ай бұрын
I forget that the vadican has a crap ton of land. Really cool to learn about this forgotten weapon!
@ianmckee8421
@ianmckee8421 9 ай бұрын
Ver cool, thank you for the report. Missed seeing you at SOT SHOW so far.
@Decebalus
@Decebalus 9 ай бұрын
It always stresses me out watching Ian take these apart just because I know if I was doing it personally I probably would struggle massively to put it back together again...
@phileas007
@phileas007 9 ай бұрын
first choice when fighting the vampires.
@Sherwoodnt
@Sherwoodnt 9 ай бұрын
Neat little revolver. I'm glad you were allowed to take it apart, it was amazing to see that level of work and serialization for the age of the item. I noticed some distortion in parts of the video, nothing major, but the parts where you're speaking onscreen seem scuffed compared to the lovely close-up work. Still an amazing video, just wanted to point that out in case it's pertinent. Could be a camera or software issue you'll need to wrestle with. Thanks for another great video!
@thecoolestdaniel4554
@thecoolestdaniel4554 9 ай бұрын
Looks like Really smooth clay
@chrigikok1268
@chrigikok1268 9 ай бұрын
Fun fact from a Swiss. The serial number 1291 is also the founding year of the earliest Swiss confederation/ state. Coincidence?
@ragingjaguarknight86
@ragingjaguarknight86 5 ай бұрын
It's a conspiracy!!! 😳😱🤪
@lextalionis0
@lextalionis0 9 ай бұрын
I do like a sprinkle of history with my morning cup of Forgotten Weapons
@thebiggestmelonyouneversee1366
@thebiggestmelonyouneversee1366 9 ай бұрын
Pulled put the Kiejl Armistice A9
@shibasaurus322
@shibasaurus322 9 ай бұрын
Catholic fact: If a saint has owned a firearm, that gun is considered a class 2 relic. Class 1 relics are actual body parts of the saints so class 2 is as high as a gun can go.
@Slava_Ukraini1991
@Slava_Ukraini1991 9 ай бұрын
so if a saint shoots you, it makes you holier?
@bruhbruh-us6gl
@bruhbruh-us6gl 9 ай бұрын
@@Slava_Ukraini1991 No, but it does make you hole-ier
@markhensel1843
@markhensel1843 9 ай бұрын
@@Slava_Ukraini1991 'holier' is he hits your more than once.
@akaJughead
@akaJughead 9 ай бұрын
Ian finally got around to reviewing the Scarecrow's revolver from The Wizard of Oz.
@benetton3283
@benetton3283 9 ай бұрын
Hi Ian, more than Napoleon taking the garrison out of the Vatican, it was after sedan that that Italy took the chance of taking Rome. If France didn’t lost the war, there would still be Napoleon to protect the Pope, and Italy wouldn’t take the risk. Nice video as always.
@jacktingle215
@jacktingle215 9 ай бұрын
This kind of content is the reason I watch FW.
@Vaasref
@Vaasref 9 ай бұрын
As I learned at Liege's gunsmithing school the same techniques used to craft this gun, it's odd to recognize the same kind of marks and scratches that I would make on my learning pieces. The same kind of file marks and finish. It give me a feeling that I know that gun even though the mechanism is new to me. The quality of the craftsmanship may look a bit crude but from what I see it is just that it is not made to look good. My rough work-in-progress "finish" was pretty much looking like that but I tend to over do it (and lose too much time). In term of technique what differentiate this gun from a luxury handmade shotgun is that there would be an other step of maybe half a weeks of work or so to make it smooth and shiny polish and maybe some gold plating on the trigger and bluing the internal links.
@thelaughinghyenas8465
@thelaughinghyenas8465 9 ай бұрын
At 56 papal lire in 1868 or between $10 and $11/revolver, I am not surprised at all to see roughness and tool marks. A small shop like that was probably struggling to make a profit out of the deal.
@DisstonDave
@DisstonDave 9 ай бұрын
I think the threading on the end of that extraction rod may be for a cleaning head attachment to clean the barrel and cylinders. The extraction rod/lanyard loop can then also function as your cleaning rod.
@IoannesPetrvs
@IoannesPetrvs 9 ай бұрын
Holy Damage Revolver
@georgeboatright6635
@georgeboatright6635 9 ай бұрын
very interesting that castel san angelo (aka hadrian's tomb) was used as a gun factory.
@TheKoosterify
@TheKoosterify 9 ай бұрын
Love Marzocchis. Especially the Monster T, 888, and Z1
@DisstonDave
@DisstonDave 9 ай бұрын
I think the threading on the end extraction rod/lanyard loop is to also function with a cleaning attachment so that one can clean the cylinders and barrel with the same tool. Not 100% certain but it would make sense.
@rogercarroll8764
@rogercarroll8764 9 ай бұрын
Very nicely made. Beautiful little revolver.
@travisreed1730
@travisreed1730 Ай бұрын
Imagine how BADASS an armory nicknamed "The Tomb" would be. Sounds like something straight outta "John Wick."
@lordMartiya
@lordMartiya 9 ай бұрын
Historical correction on the fall of the Papal States. Their end was slated from the start of the unification process, as only Rome could be accepted as capital of Italy - hence why the patriots first and the Kingdom of Sardinia (the state that was leading the unification effort and would eventually become the Kingdom of Italy) tried multiple times to establish a confederation, with the Pope as president - except the Pope was Pius IX, whose personality was such that Bismarck tried to offer him asylum in Germany with the expectation he'd drive the German Catholics into Protestantism. Thus no dice. Napoleon III, to keep the support of the French Catholics, made a treaty with Italy to keep Rome to the Pope, with Italy accepting to wait Pius' death and negotiate Rome becoming Italian with his successor and the French garrison being there to keep the uncontrollable Garibaldi out. Pius of course took it as license to provoke Italy at any chance... Then the Second French Empire fell, invalidating the treaty just at the same time Pius was trying to have the First Vatican Council proclaim him infallible in both spiritual and temporal matters, and Italy finally invaded. Thus on September 20 1870 Rome was taken... And just to be extra petty, almost all cities and towns in Italy have a street dedicated to that day leading to the local main church (the only exception is Rome, where the street starts at the breach in the walls the Italian troops entered the city).
@brittakriep2938
@brittakriep2938 9 ай бұрын
The italian troops had been commanded by a General Cardona, the father of italian Main commander from wwl. Vatican troops had been commanded by a german man ,von Kanzler '.
@wraithcadmus
@wraithcadmus 9 ай бұрын
It's said that the Pope threatened to excommunicate whoever gave the order to attack, so they temporarily promoted a Jewish officer, I can only imagine that conversation "You're Jewish, we need you for a special task" "No way, I don't like where this is going" "We need you to exploit a religious loophole" "You son of a bitch, I'm in"
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 9 ай бұрын
That's pretty hilarious that Bismarck figured exposure to the Pope would drive German Catholics to Protestantism.
@Stevarooni
@Stevarooni 9 ай бұрын
Pinfire cartridges are so neat-looking and different from our radially-smooth modern ammunition! The evolution makes sense, and you understand why they did what they did...with limited chemical supplies and technology, and different material strengths. It really shows why keeping old relics helps understand technological progression, which keeps us from unnecessarily repeating mistakes from the past.
@estherstreet4582
@estherstreet4582 9 ай бұрын
I often forget that pinfire cartridges come in "normal" calibers, the first thing that comes to mind when I hear pinfire is those teeny tiny replica guns that shoot 2mm ammunition.
@seikbeer4528
@seikbeer4528 9 ай бұрын
I've never really thought about it but the gun community usually has the best dad-like jokes in the top comments, amazing
@Welter87
@Welter87 9 ай бұрын
I'm not a firearms enthusiast, but I love this channel. Unique pieces of engineering, works of art, explained plainly and simply.
@oldmanjones7832
@oldmanjones7832 9 ай бұрын
The machining, fit and quality of the revolver after all this time.🤠
@StanislavG.
@StanislavG. 9 ай бұрын
Ian, it would be very interesting to see some videos of manufacturing machines and methods of this period
@Jason-fm4my
@Jason-fm4my 9 ай бұрын
Thanks for making this video. Someone, somewhere owns one of these and has no idea what it's worth.
@tadeuszdolkowski
@tadeuszdolkowski 9 ай бұрын
Finally a worthy material for gunJesus.
@dude126
@dude126 9 ай бұрын
Excellent historical piece.
@kobus9795
@kobus9795 9 ай бұрын
You think you have seen everything and this guy still pulls out something new
@Matt-xc6sp
@Matt-xc6sp 9 ай бұрын
Clearly the ejector rod is threaded to screw into some other parallel bit for a handy crucifix in the field.
@davidbrennan660
@davidbrennan660 9 ай бұрын
Next video.... The Holy Hand grenade of Antioch .... . Ian must be visiting family.
@kriseckhardt5148
@kriseckhardt5148 9 ай бұрын
Excellent job Ian!
@treywright1238
@treywright1238 9 ай бұрын
For when the exorcism needs a lil bit more oomf than holy water
@sponklip
@sponklip 9 ай бұрын
I will say I do wish you would have short test fire portions of these videos
@daviddrake2151
@daviddrake2151 9 ай бұрын
The rod is threaded to screw into lead shot/bullet that hasnt been fired. The threads bite into the soft lead shot to remove unspent round from the barrel.
@andrewgates8158
@andrewgates8158 9 ай бұрын
Exactly what I would've expected of the papal states
@Astraeus..
@Astraeus.. 9 ай бұрын
The Papal Lira had the same value as a French Franc and Italian Lira. The median income in the 1860's in France was around 80 Francs. This pistol would have been roughly 3 weeks of the median income. For a modern perspective, the monthly median wage in the US is something like 2600$ (although median income pre-1950's didn't have to accommodate so many ultra-wealthy, which likely skews modern data somewhat) so in today's US currency the pistols would have likely cost somewhere in the 1300-2000$ range....though I could be WAY off....
@kenibnanak5554
@kenibnanak5554 9 ай бұрын
There was probably a long bore brush for cleaning sold with each pistol and threaded onto the ejection rod, but it is missing today.
@jasonsexton8869
@jasonsexton8869 9 ай бұрын
Loved the video on this interesting little piece of history, but I have to say that I winced when he popped that v spring out like that. Those things are typically removed under a spring clamp for a reason. The way those old V springs are made, they are prone to stress risers at the meeting point. Many a v spring has snapped in half taking them out the way he did there.
@darkling54
@darkling54 9 ай бұрын
Pinfire weapons are so neat
@TigrisAmora
@TigrisAmora 9 ай бұрын
After furious internet searching, I have an answer. At the time, the USD was worth 5.18 Lira. An 1868 USD is worth approximately 21.60 2024 USD. So the Pope's Gendarmerie Gat cost a current day $233.51. With the total contract being worth $583,775 in 2024 dollars or $27,026.62 in 1868 dollars.
@zacharyrollick6169
@zacharyrollick6169 9 ай бұрын
If you calculated that correctly, that was a steal. Maybe they cut the Vatican a deal.
@jehoiakimelidoronila5450
@jehoiakimelidoronila5450 9 ай бұрын
I'm a sucker for revolvers, and that's gotta be the cutest revolver I've ever seen
@strahinjamilosevic1024
@strahinjamilosevic1024 9 ай бұрын
Ejector rod probably doubles as a cleaning rod, hence the thread on the end, for the cleaning accessories.
@Dani-pe2lt
@Dani-pe2lt 9 ай бұрын
Grazie Ian, è un piacere conoscere una parte della storia del regno di Italia e dello stato pontificio non molto nota!
@TheCatBilbo
@TheCatBilbo 9 ай бұрын
"Our Father, BLAM! BLAM! Who art in Heaven, RELOADING!"...
@yksisolttu
@yksisolttu 9 ай бұрын
"And He shall smite those f*****s!"
@weswolever7477
@weswolever7477 9 ай бұрын
Hollow be thy points
@TheCatBilbo
@TheCatBilbo 9 ай бұрын
​@@weswolever7477Brilliant! 😊
@richieb7692
@richieb7692 9 ай бұрын
I guess you don't need a big gun, when you're just keeping the choir boys from trying to escape
@arthurfrayn7619
@arthurfrayn7619 9 ай бұрын
Theory for the threaded tip of the lanyard: it could screw into barrel or body for easier cleaning/maintenance especially with hand fitting parts.
@2bitmarketanarchist337
@2bitmarketanarchist337 9 ай бұрын
Seems to be beautifully engineered
@johnhall3824
@johnhall3824 9 ай бұрын
1 Papal Lira = .34 USD in 1868. So, $17ish each. Or, $367.20 in 2024 USD.
@danschneider9921
@danschneider9921 9 ай бұрын
Up next, Ian will bring us John Paul II personal Radom pistol with ivory grips...
@SteamCrane
@SteamCrane 9 ай бұрын
I've always wondered how reliable a pinfire cartridge is, and how dangerous it is to carry reloads with that pin sticking out. Is any pinfire ammunition available to test? Nice that there is a protective ring that covers all of the pins.
@matthewivans8590
@matthewivans8590 9 ай бұрын
The thumbnail made it look like something out of SolidWorks. Just something about the flat grey and reflections put a real uncanny valley look to it.
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