PMC Bronze 55gr .223 vs X-Tac 62gr 5.56 Green Tip Ballistic Gel Test & Review

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Buckeye Ballistics

Buckeye Ballistics

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@dingdongmagee
@dingdongmagee 10 күн бұрын
That tables tells me you’re legit. Us low class men cant afford new tables every shot good lord
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
Yessir 🫡 Broke boy over here...
@Mark-uh4zd
@Mark-uh4zd 10 күн бұрын
He’s not bad with tables unlike a certain dude from Kentucky.
@donnymac575
@donnymac575 11 күн бұрын
Thank you. I love the PMC Bronze in my 16" AR's and this is good to know. 😊
@michaelolin2219
@michaelolin2219 9 күн бұрын
Just found this channel, earned my subscription.
@KD-lb9bg
@KD-lb9bg 6 күн бұрын
Good stuff, thanks for the show and tell man. I’d love to see more 5.56 testing this coming year.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 6 күн бұрын
Definately more comming this year...
@KD-lb9bg
@KD-lb9bg 6 күн бұрын
@ 👍🏻
@ValkyrieRNmedic
@ValkyrieRNmedic 7 күн бұрын
great review, I've wondered the difference in these two for a long time.
@jacksin3323
@jacksin3323 11 күн бұрын
Thank you for your testing work. 🙂
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 11 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching
@drewday6109
@drewday6109 11 күн бұрын
Keep up the 5.56 gel test!!!😎😎😎
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 11 күн бұрын
Yessir 🫡 You were the one asking for them right?
@cancermonkey7334
@cancermonkey7334 11 күн бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallisticsthe green tip is exactly what I wanted to see. I’ve seen a lot of 55gr fmj. Keep up the good work.
@corycarlson8712
@corycarlson8712 10 күн бұрын
I believe Its called fleet yaw. The bullet can tumble or yaw earlier or later depending on the angle of the nose of the bullet when it impacts. It will still tumble and yaw, just at different depths depending. M855 is more suseptible, not as much for m193. Depending on that angle m855 can tumble anywhere from 1"-8". Also i believe the projectiles will still tumble even at lower velocities, because of the shape of all spire point projectiles....but the minimum velocity needed to fragment is around 2,400 feet per sec. And as weve seen in this video fragmentation even at full velocity is not guranteed. It has alot to do with bullet construction from each individual manufacturer. I know hornady and winchester 55gr fmj do fragment, whereas MEN german m193 and any russian bi metal projectiles will not because they use a thicker jacket. A full 20" barrel will make the likelyhood of fraging higher. I personally keep 10 mags of m855 and 10 mags of my 55gr hornady soft point handloads loaded up just incase the Chinese invade lmao. I would love to see how a basic soft point performs. I use my sp handloads on deer and they do the trick so i figure they are good enough for SD/HD. I pay the same price for hornady SP projectiles that i would for FMJ. So i loaded a ton for self defense. I pay $11 for 100 SP projectiles. Better more expensive projectiles like those 77gr bthp sierra are like $25 for 50. But they are worth it. Maybe someday ill load those up. Thanks for the video! I can geek out over 556 all day!
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
I'm glad you understand they're yawing- I'm already getting comments telling me I don't know what I'm talking about, that they're not yawing lol. I forgot how much controversey and opinions there is surrounding 5.56 stuff. I did notice that one top shot did not tumble until a much later depth than the others, but I figured that was due to shot placement affecting that. A tumble at 8" doesn't do us much good... I have a soft point on hand I'll test this spring when I start up again and I'm getting more before then as well along with some hollow points. Stay tuned 🫡
@professorpewpuew
@professorpewpuew 11 күн бұрын
I was curious how both did. PMC Bronze is my go-to ammo.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 11 күн бұрын
Well I'm glad you were curious then 😁
@donwyoming1936
@donwyoming1936 11 күн бұрын
I've seen enough wounds from M193 & M855 to know they are nasty. Velocity is key. I would never use less than a 16 inch barrel. 20 inch is much better.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 11 күн бұрын
I would love to try these from a 24" bolt gun.
@DonJohn-h8l
@DonJohn-h8l 11 күн бұрын
I have seen information suggesting anything above around 1800 fps will exceed the elastic limits of tissue. Meaning that the temporary wound cavity creates permanent damage. My point is that I think short ARs are better than PCCs. It would be interesting to find out at what velocity those rounds reliably fragment. Thanks for the content btw!
@tommynason5853
@tommynason5853 11 күн бұрын
Shorter barrel smaller wound cavity​@@DonJohn-h8l
@stanpotter7764
@stanpotter7764 10 күн бұрын
​@DonJohn-h8l I have heard it is closer to 2300 fps
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
@DonJohn & Others - Yeah I have heard anything from 1800-2200. The internet experts can't make up their minds lol...
@cameronnorton5898
@cameronnorton5898 11 күн бұрын
If you pull one of those 55gr pills out of the case, you'll notice they are concave exposed lead on the base. Pointy bullets are obviously heavier towards the rear, so when they hit a target, they want to invert and travel base first, as that's where the most mass is. So the 55gr bullets do not tumble as much as they invert and travel backwards, pushing that hollow, soft lead base into the target, causing hollow point like expansion and fragmentation.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
Hollow points that do not expand and do not tumble or yaw cause no more damage than fmj doing the same (I have several examples on this channel)- maybe as much as a straight flying flat nose if the hollow cavity is wide enough, which is only slightly more damage than a straight flying fmj. The 'inverting" is literally a tumble- it doesn't have to tumble multiple times to be a tumble. Whenever the bullet yaws sideways or flips backwards/inverts, it does the same damage as a hollow point (or better) during this yaw or flip. It's the difference between an olympic diver jumping into a pool head first with arms leading in a point, and him doing a backsmacker into the pool from the same height. There is much more surface area and drag while the bullet is sideways, thus the massive tearing. In this instance, we also have fragmentation from the 55gr that would be causing a lot of that damage as well, acting like a varmint round to a certain extent quickly dumping it's energy and causing massive tearing and cavitation.
@Chase-jd6yi
@Chase-jd6yi 9 күн бұрын
Hell yeah man it’s nice to see someone else from Ohio doing a gun channel
@chincemagnet
@chincemagnet 11 күн бұрын
I clicked on this video and thought at first I was watching Banana Ballistics channel, I was like, what the hell happened to this guys voice!? 😂
@aarongreenfield9038
@aarongreenfield9038 11 күн бұрын
It's tiiiime tooo griiiiind.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 11 күн бұрын
Lol nice, love that guy. Wish I was funny like him...
@Mark-uh4zd
@Mark-uh4zd 10 күн бұрын
Get a sidekick like Terry that’ll laugh at all your jokes
@daviddurbin9802
@daviddurbin9802 11 күн бұрын
Good test. Wife shoots a lot of PMC Bronze .223 out of a 16” barrel but I shoot 556. Nice to see the wound channel on this so probably will save my money from buying SP or HP rounds now as this seems effective enough. I’ve yet to buy M855 as not allowed on the private ranges we frequent.
@johnpoole8321
@johnpoole8321 11 күн бұрын
Good job Buckeye 😉
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 11 күн бұрын
Thanks 😁
@typhoonjenkins8330
@typhoonjenkins8330 8 күн бұрын
Interesting results. Thanks
@truthBtold1212
@truthBtold1212 11 күн бұрын
Stark county here , next to hall of fame cheers brother !
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
SE and that's all I can say in front of my stalkers 😅
@kineticenergy1085
@kineticenergy1085 8 күн бұрын
That hole on the ground was form the shot. Your camera caught it, but these rounds don’t fly straight when hitting the target as I BELIEVE they were meant to yaw for maximum damage. That’s why I don’t do penetration tests with .223/5.56
@larryw5429
@larryw5429 9 күн бұрын
Thats why they make good home defense rounds. They hit anything and start to tumble and frag and doesn't over penetrate!
@Oldguy1900
@Oldguy1900 10 күн бұрын
PMC is the only brand I buy,aside from having zero issues and it's accurate, many many others are as well, I can always find it to buy and there price is always in the middle, not the cheapest not the most money. Personal preference for my AR platform is the 5.56 62 grain green tip.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
It's the cheapest around here except for steel case which I refuse to use
@Oldguy1900
@Oldguy1900 10 күн бұрын
@BuckeyeBallistics 👍
@JakeisaHassell
@JakeisaHassell 11 күн бұрын
Please please please test AAC 77GN OTM's. There's like no info on them. I wanna see home defense distance, and like 100 yard distance. Pls pls pls.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 11 күн бұрын
I plan to test those, probably spring time as I can't do these tests in the current freezing temperatures (I have a few videos already recorded). Any others that nobody has videos on that are popular? If they're not popular rounds then I won't get enough views...
@knifelover73
@knifelover73 7 күн бұрын
Look up mk262 testing. Same bullet
@snowdogthewolf
@snowdogthewolf 11 күн бұрын
Though I'll admit to disagreeing on the "yawing in flight" idea (it's a highly popular idea, so no shade, just saying... but high-speed footage has debunked some time ago), as these same rounds punch perfect holes out to whatever range (yawing will show otherwise), this video is highly informative, more than most, actually. In fact, the attention to detail in this video is impressive. Side by side comparison if M855 and M193 is always golden, showing how both are highly erratic in a flesh simulation, exactly as intended. I believe in 'Nam (my father served two tours and had interesting stories) they referred to this as the "meat clever effect" that so impressed the communists that they quickly adopted the 5.45x39 with similar ballistics. Thanks for this side-by-side, apples-to-apples comparison! This is the content we want to see. Great work, thanks!
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
Well thanks for watching and I'm glad you like the video. If you are talking about the bullet flight through the gel, you can go watch Brass Fetchers slow motion M855 video and it did exactly this- tumbled. He has a second version of the video where it is slowed down even more to 100% confirm the bullet tumbled, and you can see the cavity perfectly replicates mine here. Curious how one would otherwise explain the sharp downward trajectory straight though my table and into the ground... The exact same thing happened to him as well, and the bullet clearly yawed in his video. If you are instead speaking on the possible wobbling through the air I mentioned, I put text over the video asking if it was complete bs, meaning it wasn't necessarily an opinion I endorse 100%...
@snowdogthewolf
@snowdogthewolf 10 күн бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics Yes, the instability in flight is what I'm referring to. I've even heard folks claim these rounds are intended to "tumble in flight" to inflict the most damage. Anyone with even the most basic understanding of ballistics, bullets simply don't work that way unless there's been a defect. If it tumbles in flight, we can kiss accuracy and range goodbye. But once these "flight-stable" projectiles hit a medium such as ballistic gell (or flesh/muscle/whatnot), they tumble and sometimes to the point of fragmentation as _actually_ intended. Again, an awesome and accurate test.
@MilesLong556x69
@MilesLong556x69 9 күн бұрын
Yeah the projectiles don't yaw/tumble in the air, once they hit (soft?) stuff the bullet will yaw/tumble/fragment inside. Loved the video. Now do some 11.5 stuff!! 😂🍻 Edit: just hit 8:30ish. Apparently we're on the same page
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 9 күн бұрын
I'm getting a 7.5" for sure for a very specific video I have planned- is 11.5" still a pistol? I used to have a 10.5"...
@MilesLong556x69
@MilesLong556x69 9 күн бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics yessir, 11.5 is a pistol. 16" is where it hits rifle length. Can't wait to watch!
@BugsBunny-zf7kn
@BugsBunny-zf7kn 10 күн бұрын
Thanks for the info. Good video
@davidgiffordsr.930
@davidgiffordsr.930 11 күн бұрын
That was really interesting. i don't now what it means, but it was different. Thanks
@HighCountryBowhunter
@HighCountryBowhunter 10 күн бұрын
Good video! You should do a ballistic gel test on the Cci VNT in 22wmr and 17Hmr
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
Should be doing it this spring...
@9877joseph
@9877joseph 10 күн бұрын
Love it! Thanks bro
@JacobRose-tj3yz
@JacobRose-tj3yz 11 күн бұрын
Ive got those same green tips on sale .49c ea. Havent tried any 223 yet. saving up for a LPVO right now. new angled foregrips somewhere in the mail. Also waiting for some hearing protection to get in.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 11 күн бұрын
I don't think I've seen you on the channel before- I have tested a ton of budget lpvo's on the channel. Check out my Parts Accessories & Optics playlist...
@rpnbf8196
@rpnbf8196 11 күн бұрын
A few of my rifles shoot that 62 green tip very well. Gotta like the price to performance ratio
@PJ_Perry
@PJ_Perry 10 күн бұрын
In Afghanistan we stopped using 62gr greens after the first .month.. our m4s im assuming shorter barrel length just made small holes ..we switched to OTM with better performance ..so many variables but i dont think green tips are as good as the hype
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
I don't understand the civilian hype surrounding them other than "the military uses them so they must be awesome." My understanding is the only reason you guys used them was for the mild steel penetrator tip being better at shooting through walls, helmets, vehicle doors and glass- a.k.a. light barriers. Thanks for your service...
@Scott-tb3lb
@Scott-tb3lb 4 күн бұрын
We switched from 5.56 ball to 5.56 hpbt in Ramadi 2005. Too many times you'd dump a dozen rounds into a hadji and they'd still be moving. We were still using the M16A4 20" barrel.
@ElijahWallen
@ElijahWallen 4 күн бұрын
@@Scott-tb3lb 75gr BTHP and 77gr SMKs are definitely the way to go. Both in shorter configurations and 20”. I recently started buying those over 55gr. Still practice with 55gr though.
@romanandrews1438
@romanandrews1438 9 күн бұрын
Id love to see the .223 ammo inc. controlled chaos 62gr, cant really find a video at all on gel test.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 9 күн бұрын
Is that new? Never seen the stuff before.
@romanandrews1438
@romanandrews1438 9 күн бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics im not sure how old or new they are to be honest. I found them at my range for what i thought was a mistake of a price @ $12 per box of 20. Online they run $28.99 per box on average. Been using the ammo for at least a year.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 9 күн бұрын
I've known of the controlled chaos bullet for several years- Lehigh makes them. But I didn't know Ammo Inc. started loading and offering them. I'll try to test one variation or another of them- several manufacturers load them.
@romanandrews1438
@romanandrews1438 9 күн бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics AWESOME!!! THANKS MAN! i appreciate it even if ya dont get around to it.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 9 күн бұрын
Oh I will eventually, just can't promise the timeframe. Right now I have to wait until spring to record more gel tests...
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 11 күн бұрын
Well done. Good stuff. We like the X-Tac in our 5.56. the 55 & 62 do very well in our ARs. The 62 got mid 2800s in my 18" Radical HB and printed impressive moa or better groups. The 55 was 3000+ and not terribly consistent of accuracy as the 62 but still very good. It was occasionally moa and on occasion 2.5" out of 3 different ARs(18 & 2 16s) My sons Bushmaster 1:9 was a bit more consistent than my 1:8 & 1:7. But the 62s weren't so picky. My son will buy XTac over any other 855 or 193 ammo on the market. Gel results you got are impressive. They should get the job done. Thank you. Have you shot groups @ 100 with these. Is the Bronze as accurate as the X-TAC?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 11 күн бұрын
1:9 definately likes 55gr, 1:8 not so much- the 1:8 I used in this video groups these specific PMC Bronze 55gr 2-3" on average at 100. My previous 1:9 non free floated BCA classic A2 style upper grouped them 2" or under typically and so did my Mini-14 that was 1:9. In some bolt guns and free floated 1:9 uppers they will shoot moa. The 1:8 used in this video shoots these 62gr green tips 2" or under at 100 now (it's doing better now than in the review video, barrel needed longer break-in). It really likes the Frontier 68gr so far, need to try 77gr otm still...
@guardianminifarm8005
@guardianminifarm8005 11 күн бұрын
@BuckeyeBallistics Interesting on the 68gr. Frontier. We were sorely disappointed with them in all of our ARs. I bought a few hundred of them. 2" & 2.5" groups and some over pressured....not great consistency on velocities. I sold them at a gun show full disclosure at a reasonable price and got IWI Razor 69SMK. These don't disappoint. 2650s out of a 16" 1:7 Stag. 1.0" - 1.5" all day long and some submoa. It still surprises me how accurate the green tip X-Tac are.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 11 күн бұрын
I gotta try the AAC (Palmetto) ammo in 5.56 & 7.62x39- my .300BLK loves the stuff (recently tested).
@frankbrowning328
@frankbrowning328 10 күн бұрын
5.56-.223 is always a mixed bag. The 62 Grain Green Tip defeats light barriers better than 55 grain FMJ and that's what it was created to do. However notes from the field indicate meat and bone without armor show less trauma than regular 55 gr FMJ. On the other hand soft point bullets of 64 gr and more offer somewhat decent performance within 100 yards on small deer. Then there's the 70 gr + loads that can offer even better depth of penetration than the lighter soft points yet offer less velocity. Maybe we can see a variety of these loads at 50 & 100 yards tested
@Mark-uh4zd
@Mark-uh4zd 10 күн бұрын
Hmm, doesn’t special ops teams use 12” or 10.5” with the 77 grain round? I think it’s the mk262 or something. Wouldn’t that get piss poor velocity seeing as it’s heavy and out of a short barrel, unless the cartridges are loaded with a different type of propellant than what we get commercially. I’ve heard that the mk262 round has better “stopping power”, for lack of a better term.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
@Frank - I plan on it
@frankbrowning328
@frankbrowning328 10 күн бұрын
@BuckeyeBallistics cool, more great stuff to come
@JSJTOUTDOORS
@JSJTOUTDOORS 8 күн бұрын
Thank you for this
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 8 күн бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@hunterman600cc
@hunterman600cc 10 күн бұрын
62 is a squirrely round. I've "been told about" a combatant shot low torso (just below sternum) and bullet came out the side of his neck. Both involved were standing on even terrain. Needless to say, he changed his mind about what he was doing.
@rossincognito273
@rossincognito273 11 күн бұрын
We’ll done bravo
@chincemagnet
@chincemagnet 11 күн бұрын
As soon as I saw that side charging upper I knew it was a BCA. I really like those, in fact I prefer side charging ARs. You just don’t really see them very often. I only have one side charging upper 8.5 inch in 300 BLK, it’s actually fantastic, except that barrel is too damn heavy. I have a 20 inch AR 10 from BCA in 308, spiral fluted stainless and that thing is way lighter, I love it.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 11 күн бұрын
I have 3 of them I think, they all work good.
@douglastaylor43
@douglastaylor43 9 күн бұрын
Keep them coming
@heyjohnson5535
@heyjohnson5535 10 күн бұрын
I started my Ar15 collection w a bushmaster 24 inch bull barreled 556 for groundhog and coyote hunting. But when i was using green tip fmj if i didnt headshot the groundhog it was going back in the hole if i couldnt get a follow up shot. So i started using strictly BTHP match grade hornady and havent had a single pest aurvive even a body shot. That bthp 556 tumbles as soon as it hits the skin almost like a ak74 . Now i just use green tips for target practice and boy i had abunch by time i realized it. I have gotten like 5 different bthp 556 rounds and they all seem to react the same way.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
Good to know because my rifle likes the 68gr bthp from Frontier so far (accuracy)
@heyjohnson5535
@heyjohnson5535 10 күн бұрын
@BuckeyeBallistics mine also like the frontiers and hornady both truly i dont think ive shot a bad group with any bthp rounds. I use them in the 24 inch 18s 16s 13.5 and 7.5 inch barrels never had a one dislike a bthp round. That 24inch got a tighter headspace in the upper so ive actually had some soft tips at one point but the gun wouldnt chamber them out the magazine and if i did get it to chamber if i didnt pullthe trigger and instead unload it it was pulling the bullet apart leaving the tip in the barrel while ejecting the casing and gun powder. Never occured with an fmj or bthp round but i got some ammo from allegiance ammunition on youtube and theh got some badass ammo but thats what was doing it. The type i got looked like a soft pointas in it wasnt a steep angled bullet it was more rounded but when that bullet htis its target it turns into what looks like burning sand and it explodes in every direction inside the wound cavity. Was like a home defense round i think so itwouldnt go through a 2nd sheet of drywall or something. It works fine out of any other of my uppers besides that bushmaster i think it just has tighter tolerances. Which it should considering what i paid for that thing. But out of any of my other 556 rifles it works great just doesnt work out the 24inch bull barreled ar. Should look at their website on youtube they prob got some real cool stuff now that was 10 years ago when i bought from them and they had just been starting the channel. But ive never had to use a 2md shot on a coyote or groundhog with those bthp rounds frontier hornady got some double tap and a coupel others vmax i think has a bthp as well.
@ChrisFromThe740
@ChrisFromThe740 10 күн бұрын
👍👍
@alexanderm8880
@alexanderm8880 10 күн бұрын
You should give RMR 3GH bullets a try! You'll have to load them or have someone load them for you but they're all I use. They're an in-house approximation of mk 318
@ElijahWallen
@ElijahWallen 4 күн бұрын
Test 77 gr SMK out of a 20” 1:9 in those blocks. You’ll be happy. Was also surprised to see what the m855 did. I think those 10% blocks are a better 1:1 of flesh and the clear blocks don’t allow bullets to have their desired terminal effects. Edit: My bad, 1:7 I flip flop 1:9/1:7 on a regular basis. Smooth brain problems
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 күн бұрын
77gr in *theory* out of a 1:9 shouldn't be that accurate beyond 100 yards. I say in theory because my Mini-14 with a 1:9 loved Hornady 75gr bthp... 1:9 is for the 50-62gr stuff
@hoffpbass
@hoffpbass 4 күн бұрын
You should want a 1:8 or 1:7 for a 77 grainer.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 күн бұрын
I know- but you said 1:9 in your first comment
@ElijahWallen
@ElijahWallen 4 күн бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics My Bad, I had that backward. 1:7*
@ElijahWallen
@ElijahWallen 4 күн бұрын
@@hoffpbass Yeah, my bad. Sometimes when I see 1:9, my brain equates 9 as a bigger number than 7. Therefore, more spin. But I have to remind myself it’s revolutions per inch. Dumb, I know. When I do builds I always try to buy 1:7/1:8 barrels. I still have some ARs that are 1:9 though. They were bought before I started building.
@JadeDumpTrucking
@JadeDumpTrucking 2 күн бұрын
Why are you sitting down shooting it? That’s why the tumble and exit are coming out the top. It’s an upward projection. Level for better results. Thanks for video.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 2 күн бұрын
Um because that's what gives me the straight in angle I need unlike what you think you are seeing. The table is sloping downwards because the ground is not level, and on my knees is too high as I would then be shooting at a downward angle. Trust me, I got the angle right, been doing this for years...
@ianharper1189
@ianharper1189 10 күн бұрын
the pmc .223 psp is a tack driver out of my 16"" at 100 yards
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
Maybe I should try em 😁 What is your barrel twist rate?
@ianharper1189
@ianharper1189 4 күн бұрын
@BuckeyeBallistics 1/8
@ianharper1189
@ianharper1189 4 күн бұрын
55 grain psp
@concernedpatriot.2221
@concernedpatriot.2221 7 күн бұрын
Ok. Legitimate and serious question. Why do people expect fragmentation from a FMJ bullet ? FMJ is not designed to fragment.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 7 күн бұрын
Generally no, fmj is not designed to expand. But in the case of 5.56 (and some other cartridges), some of the fmj bullets fragment due to the combination of high velocity and low mass. This effect of course deteriorates and vanishes the further out the bullet impacts, as it is losing velocity constantly as it travels through the air...
@concernedpatriot.2221
@concernedpatriot.2221 7 күн бұрын
@ of course, anything might happen with a small bullet traveling that fact but I’m always intrigued watching people looking for fragmentation when it’s not designed to occur. Besides, a 1 millimeter piece of jacket fragmenting is going to cause barely any tissue damage.
@bobg3633
@bobg3633 9 күн бұрын
How is that bear kreek upper? I picked one up last month but have no time to get to range
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 9 күн бұрын
My review of it is linked in the description. That said, it is printing better groups now post review video with these 62gr than it did (see latest scope review for those groups). It likes the 68gr the best so far though (see review video). I guess the barrel needed more time to break in...
@bobg3633
@bobg3633 9 күн бұрын
@BuckeyeBallistics watched the video and liked
@vintagetintrader1062
@vintagetintrader1062 11 күн бұрын
PMC Bronze must have very hard primers, had 5 missfires out of 60 rounds of 223 out of a Sauer 100 stainless in 223 and my Howa Mini Stainless 223. Only factory brand ammunition I’ve ever had this ( I now handload using Remington primers) But should be good in a AR that I guess it’s designed for.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
Yeah I've only ever used them in AR's for years now without that ever happening once
@adamgregory8167
@adamgregory8167 11 күн бұрын
Good job
@adamannala5498
@adamannala5498 10 күн бұрын
You’re still using that busted up table that shot up in you last video lol.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
Yeah it's called having a budget. Feel free to replace it by leaving a generous thanks button donation...
@js-kb9cp
@js-kb9cp 10 күн бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics. Heck yeah! I shoot on it till a leg busts then prop it up. Awesome vid
@brianbell6556
@brianbell6556 Күн бұрын
Its been proven that 55gr .223 will in fact turn your arm into a pile of spaghetti. 😂
@concernedpatriot.2221
@concernedpatriot.2221 7 күн бұрын
Both bullets are devastating.
@lloydlongsr.8261
@lloydlongsr.8261 10 күн бұрын
We seen the 1st shot hit the ground
@cw2a
@cw2a 11 күн бұрын
☺️🤞🏽👍🏼👍🏼🤞🏽☺️
@mtower235
@mtower235 8 күн бұрын
The green tips aren’t as impressive at distance. The FMJ I’ve used the tip breaks off often.
@blackhawk7r221
@blackhawk7r221 8 күн бұрын
They are supposed to
@Mr.J.Diesel
@Mr.J.Diesel 11 күн бұрын
Cool
@alvaroeloredo
@alvaroeloredo 10 күн бұрын
Comment for the algoooo
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 9 күн бұрын
Always appreciated
@MrKingdavis13
@MrKingdavis13 9 күн бұрын
My cousin bought a case of that garbage green tip stuff and it key holes every single shot and I tried 3 different rifles with different twists but they were all horrible. I don't know what they use to shoot that garbage but it doesn't make much sense to have to buy another rifle to shoot a specific cartridge. It might be good for self defense since the F.B.I. says that is generally less than 21 feet and the projectile probably won't be terminal after passing through sheet rock when it hits sideways.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 9 күн бұрын
Sound like you got a bad lot of the stuff then- or counterfeits. Literally thousands of people use this stuff and it doesn't keyhole- I have shot it 400 yards no problem from multiple rifles with different twist rates...
@wisewhiterabbit
@wisewhiterabbit 9 күн бұрын
What twist rates are your barrels ?
@MrKingdavis13
@MrKingdavis13 8 күн бұрын
@@wisewhiterabbit One has a 1:7 another is 1:9 and the other isn't mine but supposed to be a 1:11 but all I know is that is what the owner said it was.
@blackhawk7r221
@blackhawk7r221 8 күн бұрын
You got bad ammo. I was on a 25m Group/Zero range with my trainees using M-16A2’s and we got lots of keyholes one day from that particular DODAC lot of M855’s. Rare, but happens.
@mikesalmon9945
@mikesalmon9945 10 күн бұрын
You are just brilliant at this aren’t ya? The rounds are not tumbling thru the block they are expanding. They may tumble by the end of the block or just turn but not as soon as they enter. You need a rest so you hit the block square, cause you can’t while you’re just free ballin Are you still back in Vietnam thinking it’s a tumbling round on purpose?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
You could debunk yourself just by going and watching Brass Fetchers slow motion M855 video- they are yawing sideways which is why is shot out the bottom of my (and his) table genius...
@crankygunreviews
@crankygunreviews 10 күн бұрын
Well known fact that 5.56 tumble in gel and soft tissue.
@MilesLong556x69
@MilesLong556x69 9 күн бұрын
Didn't know full metal jackets expand when hitting gel 😂
@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649
@carfvallrightsreservedwith6649 10 күн бұрын
Sad when $9 -$10/box is viewed as cheap. Damn Biden.
@Mark-uh4zd
@Mark-uh4zd 10 күн бұрын
I have some old ammo where the price is 4.99 for 55g 556. Sad what has happened. During the outbreak, I was seeing 55g and 62g north of $1/round.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
Yeah I was getting these for 6.50 5 years ago
@Mark-uh4zd
@Mark-uh4zd 10 күн бұрын
@ I hope we have at least two years of no attacks on our 2A at the federal level. I distinctly remember after sandy hook and pandemic shelves being bare and price gouging thru the roof. Heck even in 2014-2016 ammo was still hard to come by for popular calibers, at least at the LGS.
@AKFF320
@AKFF320 10 күн бұрын
Zzzzzzzz. Boring and slow and drug out, 14 minute video, 2 rounds shot, no real excitement, monotone voice, all for a video which has been done by others with slow motion cameras and more knowledge.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 10 күн бұрын
Yet it will have 10,000 views in the first 24hrs 🤔
@crankygunreviews
@crankygunreviews 10 күн бұрын
Watch in 2x speed if you think it’s too slow
@frankbrowning328
@frankbrowning328 10 күн бұрын
@@AKFF320Watching free content and then not only complaining about its content but also insulting the host is in truly poor taste. These videos are well explained. Unlike a lot of other content creators, if there is a question as to what happened or could happen that could not at that time be explained, this channel gives a shout out to the viewers for an answer rather than just making crap up. Not everyone has seen content with organic gel. Most similar videos show clear gel which does not represent as accurately what happens to organic media as the organic gel shown here. By the way organic gel is the true standard used by law enforcement. That being said there's info available on this channel that is not available on most of the others.
@MilesLong556x69
@MilesLong556x69 9 күн бұрын
Go somewhere else then
@crankygunreviews
@crankygunreviews 9 күн бұрын
@@frankbrowning328 👏
@jiujitsuforall8627
@jiujitsuforall8627 9 күн бұрын
The general consensus is the M855 62gr green tip is inferior to the M193 55gr in terminal ballistics so don't use it for self defense. Uhhhhh, if I were a criminal I wouldn't want to get lit up with ANY 223/556 rd in the brisket.
@1594simonsays
@1594simonsays 5 күн бұрын
Ya it's killing you regardless
@Ninja9981000
@Ninja9981000 4 күн бұрын
I'm not sure your supposed to shoot rifles in the pistol bays at Briar! Lmfao 😂
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 4 күн бұрын
I'm not shooting the steel obviously
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