What CHANGED for 2.6's Rerun Units? Acheron Aventurine & Lunae Guide Updates

[@guobacertified]

If you have any vid suggestions lemme know, and lemme know who you're farming for in 2.6! Love you all

[@Angela41541]

i have E2S1 Ave and i use 2x2 knight and ash blazing duke + sigonia and it's working great for me tbh. but i just pulled lunae and his LC [i know he might not be the best anymore, but i wanted him since i started the game and had to skip the previous rerun] and this was so useful for me. so thanks a lot ;)

[@dawidkoperek7917]

Amazing idea. Its nice to have a characters which we like get updated. Keep up good work!

[@hyogashi]

Took a break from the game for a few months and I’m completely behind meta vise. So I’m going for FF team as that’s the easiest to build rn Already farmed for some insane Relic pieces as well with 20k+ stellar jades. So I’m waiting for her rerun which should be soon… (also I got E0S1 Acheron already so skipping her for this rerun)

[@Nayl62]

For video suggestions i would really appreciate a summary video of 2.x sets and characters, like nothing really fancy just like « tingyun can use this set ». Really nothing fancy like your guides but more like a summary of your infographics/or turn it into set efficiency (for example the new set can be used by : 4p tingyun, sparkle etc, 2p : Huohuo etc etc) And other idea : maybe reviews of people characters with some explanations like « niche build » eagle pela/jiaoqiu that people wouldn’t know about and why it’s niche or even double harmony sparkle/bronya for example

[@devinmcreynolds8825]

Greay video! Btw Guoba what is the hybrid build for your adveturine that you briefly mentioned in the video?

[@rek8193]

It’s criminal that Lunae *still* doesn’t have a dedicated relic set. I really wish they’d throw him that bone.

[@mikoajbaszczyszyn4568]

A set that increases damage, where the stacks are build with consuming SP would be cool. Especially since it would also be good on Qingque (maybe even better than Qua set), maybe allowing mono-Quantum to be relevant?

[@mediumsurmoon6283]

He’ll definitely get one once hoyo release a hyper carry that use basic attacks like Blade and DHIL.

[@hakuens]

@@mikoajbaszczyszyn4568ehhh ikwym. as a mono quantum lover myself i’d love for it to be viable again but i don’t think simply a relic set will push it back into relevancy

[@alaeus2310]

Fr we need Dan Feng’s seditious robes of fuckup, it can’t be that Acheron has to be reminded of the fact she’s Kianaless by her BiS relic while DHIL is chilling.

[@NiaTheMilkTank]

Y'all just need a set that enabled Spores on a 4pc Boom done

[@flamingjockeys]

Yes PLEASE keep making these! It's a very real problem (at least for me) when I get a new character on a rerun and the only guides are from the original run. Especially in genshin when some characters came out years prior.

[@Sofisasam]

For genshin there are quite a few youtubers that actually talk about reruns and how the characters have changed

[@JovazPulse]

@@Sofisasamwhy say that and offer no KZbinr as an example? I do t play Genshin as much but I believe SuperaTom was someone who revisited old characters in a new setting. Sometimes iWTL as well.

[@Sofisasam]

@@JovazPulse IWTL, Zyox sometimes but the biggest of them is lowkey Zajeff. He reviews every banner, weapon and character, 4 stars/5 stars, talks about new artefacts, characters and their place in the meta etc. He sometimes has some weird takes but overall thats the guy id go to. For every new character he usually talks about their synergy with other characters and so on. And for every rerun he talks about how they have changed etc. There are also subreddits you can go to, like keqing mains or any other XXMain subreddit and look at what the community posted there. I hope this helped! Sorry for not mentioning them in my og comment!

[@shoezuo]

thank you for this 🙏, feels like nobody makes updated guides on rerun, just one & done

[@guobacertified]

Its understandable, sometimes not much changes in guides. I was nervous myself and didnt know if Id even make this video cause I was worried people would be upset that the vid only has some new info, but I thought Id try anyways so im glad you enjoyed it

[@HeartLostInCalico]

​@@guobacertifiednothing to be worried about guoba. Once in awhile update for a guide is not bad actually people will watch it (especially me hehe)

[@c.c.0396]

@@guobacertified I love it when you provide updates to characters whether through videos or infographics

[@kyotheman69]

most cases there isn't huge changes, Daniel still runs two piece set, Acheron didn't change much, same for Aventurine, new players aren't going have premium set ups anyways.

[@ruabien6665]

@@guobacertifiedupdating that no new info (no changes needed to be made in terms of build) is extremely valuable too. Anytime a new relic set is out I look at all my characters again and wonder if I should upgrade anyone’s build

[@elina1421]

so glad i refreshed the page, been waiting for this one

[@resy-t9382]

Same here

[@tieAcherry101]

It would be nice to mention that if you’re planning on using Aventurine with Acheron and you have Joaoqiu, the trend lightcone effect won’t work.

[@Blez1224]

I mostly play that combo on auto.. what cancels what in that comp?

[@guobacertified]

It does still technically work if 2 actions happen and the enemy gets the Ashen Roast proc, then they attack and get Trend. But yeah most times its no longer doing anything good point

[@_dqpb_]

It actually does work if youre facing a boss, because if the boss makes a bonus action, jq wont give acheron a stack when they do it. However, if the boss hits aventurine, trend lc will give acheron a second stack

[@JMike-bq6rl]

It just makes you want to roll for Aventurine's LC instead.

[@danielak1666]

It still works, just a bit less effective. Jiaoqiu won't give a stack for extra action (that boss does a lot) and trend won't give stack if enemies didn't do an attack (which some enemies do)

[@____________________00F]

Looking forward to your sunday and fugue videos ❤ we’re getting closer 😮‍💨

[@guobacertified]

cant wait!!! :D the models are nearly done too

[@NiaTheMilkTank]

​@@guobacertifiedlooking forward to acheron aventurine (Universal trends) comps with fugue And if Sunday is fua related in anyway like his sister Robin how he would pair with someone like Topaz (assuming he does something with related to fua)

[@TiredNemui]

As someone who's relatively new to HSR these types of re-run guides are extremely useful and nice to have

[@testingabc6207]

As 1.0 player .. the aventurine rerun is really good for a new players .. back then i was going to skip aventurine because i can sustain with 4 star fine and waiting to get my first geopard and use him instead but ngl after decided to get aventurine ... I never really use other sustain.. he is soo good that's hard to powercrept him unless they put enemy that can go through shield .. he really make your life easier

[@sonmachiavelli]

i love this video format please keep doing it for future reruns

[@guyonyoutube501]

Build updates for reruns is a great idea, very helpful!

[@awesomeperson5150]

I hope we get some new relic sets for Sustains soon. We see DPS sets every few patches and Support planars pretty often (which sustains can also use often), but we hardly ever see ones dedicated for sustains. Maybe we could get a set like Clam in Genshin where healed allies deal extra damage, or something that grants buffs to shielded allies.

[@guobacertified]

True would be cool :D

[@MojiMikato]

Heal to Damage convertion might make Luocha and Bailu a broken unit tbh…

[@Internextion]

to be fair, thats because most sustains nowadays are also dps or supports like lingsha and gallaghers best sets are scourge and aventurines is pioneer

[@pal1379]

something to make luocha meta relevant would be nice, like a set that utilises the fact he's the only healer that can consistently heal all allys outside an ultimate (except for lingsha)

[@awesomeperson5150]

@@Internextion Those sets being their best sets are also because the current sustain sets are so mediocre. 1 extra SP at the start? It’s not bad but it’ll only really be handy if you know exactly what you’re doing with your SP, and it’s not generalist. Slightly more shield strength? Again, not bad but most shielders (besides PTB) don’t have the issue of their shield breaking from damage taken. If Aven got some set that gave a damage boost to shielded allies he’d definitely use that instead

[@gallagher2259]

VERY HELPFUL. Updates to old rereleased characters is something I always struggle to find so I HIGHLY appreciate this.

[@Mitsukiiii.Kogaaa]

Thank you so much for this! Patiently waiting for Aventurine's rerun to complete my FUP team.

[@PaulNapkinds]

I was going to search for your old Aventurine guide but it's like you read my mind. Thank a bunch, Guoba!

[@Hyac1nth]

Thank you for this video! I was going to get Aventurine to complete my FART team, and Acheron + sig on one of my alts with Jiaoqiu, so this helps a lot.

[@brondermody3409]

Ah well, here's to hoping that by IL's NEXT rerun, they'll finally have a relic set around SP usage or a 'slow DPS' playstyle. These guide updates are great btw, I love that's it's based on who's running on the banners rather than just who's new bc many other guides don't fully update older units for months, keep up the good work :)

[@guobacertified]

my DHIL is waiting for a new set too :(

[@rurintoge7425]

This is the kind of guide series I was sorely missing, thank you! Not getting any of the reruns but it helps me update my DHIL who remained untouched since I got him on release... and makes me consider switching my Aventurine to hybrid or sub dps.

[@guobacertified]

Glad I could help

[@magictrick24]

An update on OG Tingyun would be cool. All available videos on her are close to a year old and she's gotten a lot of new sets and teammates since.

[@guobacertified]

I think I did one pretty recently but I guess it was pre Sacerdos Lushaka. Maybe in a bit!

[@aetherarcanist4819]

@@guobacertified yes please do! Tingyun ends up on several F2P teams.

[@ettaetta439]

​@@aetherarcanist4819Several whale ones as well. Sometimes she'll be the only four star on the team lol.

[@trinth6538]

I just want a tingyun of my own ;.;

[@greenvega]

​@@guobacertifiedhear me out, tingyun on sacerdos with sunday lc, sunday in same team, making her buff run out faster so she forced to use skill, what gives target cdmg,dmg% from lc and generate sp every second skill, what make her ult charge faster by 6 energy every skill use = more energy to dps, dps can potentially run att% body cuz them both will give to much cdmg

[@spade_suit]

Thanks for the updated guides! It made me realize my Aventurine is a mess rn

[@guobacertified]

Hope it helps yours out!

[@danielflores9661]

thanks for the video, im debatting between Aventurine and Acheron´s LC.

[@guobacertified]

Id say acherons :)

[@KSNaethos]

Acheron LC

[@mike81356]

Acheron LC is the largest DPS diff between Sig and alternatives. Her Sig LC is like a 30-40%+ compared to GNSW (a Gacha-locked LC) and even more if using Fermata if GNSW-less 💀

[@AdamNRG316]

I have both. Acherons is way, WAY more important. Gepards cone is great for Aventurine and if you want to use him with Acheron, Trend of the Universal Marker is a great option. Especially at higher superimposition.

[@niklasfeldbusch318]

​@@mike81356I have seen a video where she only does 20 % more damage with her ultimate with signature compared to welt lc s1.

[@ymsmash9526]

i dont usually comment in videos but just wanna say that these kind of rerun guides are perfect! i hope you continue making them

[@edisonsmathsclub5787]

Needed this for the reruns! Thanks Guoba!

[@guobacertified]

❤️ Ty eddy

[@BlitzTracK]

Thank you for this, really helpful as i wished for Aventurine on his rerun haha

[@Mike.Erman.Trout.]

I've been farming Duran like crazy for Feixiao, glad I was able to get a couple DEF% with crit subs. I was thinking it might work on Aventurine, but this guide just solidified that idea

[@seb_aguilera]

Love this format!!! Would also love a video where you explain how we can use a certain 4* effectively

[@jmjannise]

Please keep making these rerun guides! It really helps me know how to spend my Jades. Great video!

[@boualimouhamdrami]

This is so interesting to see a KZbinr hear his community and help the new players thank you so much

[@owo-tz7us]

As someone who's been picking up most characters on rerun nowadays, i really appreciate the updated guides🙏

[@FirlowXD]

As someone hoping to pull Acheron and Aventurine in this patch, saving for them, thanks for this! I also managed to get Dan Heng so . Yeah. Useful

[@Poppipower]

I wasn’t around or considering the meta when these characters came out, so it is very helpful to see these guides. I appreciate this.

[@jonesff5297]

thank you for the amazing guides! much love guoba

[@okostadimos]

Thank you for all the work you put on the videos man! Always very helpful 🙏

[@briannacrowther9028]

Great video format, it helps a lot since I'm planning to pull for Aventurine and wanted to make sure I pre-farmed the correct relics. Would you be able to do a video like this for Serval/Topaz/Boothill? I've seen many different build suggestions since new relics and light cones have come out and it would be helpful to have guides :)

[@silveraurora]

Thanks for this type of video and would appreciate more of these in the future. Theres been times where I get a character on a rerun or just want to help ppl build a new character but not sure if the original guide is still accurate. In the case of some 4 stars, sometimes I just want to build them for fun. U could potentially make these type of videos for 4 stars or make a whole video about a 4 star u haven't done before.

[@andresgonzalez3458]

Thank you, Guoba! You're amazing🎉❤

[@Divesh98]

I have everything waiting for aventurine but if his build should change this is important for me to know ahead of time so thank you Guoba Always fine tuning my acheron as well :)

[@realcurtethandroxas6318]

Adventurine with Gepards lightcone is so good especially when he is in between 2 units and the enemy has a Aoe type of attack free energy for the ones being hit and since adventurine gets 2 points instead of 1 if its his teammates its gets a follow up faster that way

[@guobacertified]

aggro is big yup :D

[@titaochen5249]

New guoba upload? Today's gonna be a good day 😌

[@glydoughnut9432]

Good choice for a video format! Thank you!

[@ZoRowArk3]

Great way to make updated Builds for reruns!~ I'm not pulling on any of them as I already have Acheron w/ her LC and Aventurine, but they are both such strong Units that carried me through tons of Content. Still considering wether I'll pick up Rappa tho or just save for next Patch since Fugue and Sunday could both be really hype

[@Jett125]

Potential video idea. Would love to know your thoughts on characters that are good for vertical investment/characters that improve the most this way. Who really wants their cone? Are they good without it? Is E2 dhil worth it? Is Acheron E2 worth sacrificing Sunday and/or fugue for? Etc... Might be a good time to do it because of Acheron and aventurine too.

[@guobacertified]

Sounds interesting!

[@Jett125]

@guobacertified happy to help. Absolutely love your channel. You are top of my subscription list or to tell the truth your top but fighting it out with 4wd 24/7. What can I say? I like gacha and cool cars and spend too much money on both

[@alexandredohnal6128]

Thanks for these updates!

[@Valerabetmen]

Thx for updates guides. These updated guides are really not enough for all gachas.

[@AloneLivAoS]

I really appreciate the updates, thanks.

[@andysabur4966]

the boothill acheron meme team is so fun for clearing weekly du and planar farming. single target nuker and aoe cleanup is a great combo

[@Livie2_1]

Oh Lawd I Needed This Sm. I Prefarmed All Of Acherons Mats N Relics But Didnt Know If Her Team Comps Had Change Or Not, Thanks For The Help!

[@FratisNox]

as someone new to hsr it this has really been a huge help

[@PenguinWithInternetAccess]

I have been waiting for the 2.1 reruns for a while (missed Aventurine and got Bailu on Acheron) so this guide is really neat, hoping I get them😅

[@salad9566]

I've been waiting for this video

[@bahoosh7170]

Wow its just the video i’ve been looking for

[@kev_thegenshingoat]

OMG YES THANKS GUOBA i literally LOVE youre guides still waiting eagerly for the other characters and light cones analysis per path ly guoba keep up being the goat, have a guoba-day a guoba-weekend and a guoba !

[@guobacertified]

Thanks

[@pogamosuoh6814]

Thank god a creator is doing a vid like this keep up the amazing work guoba

[@guobacertified]

Glad you like the vid!

[@Blez1224]

Just what i asked for, thank you! 😁 If you could mention the 4 stars on the banner, very briefly (like just throw on an image of your recommended build, while you explain when they are good, and noteble eidolons?) Yes, i know i should read their description, but i play casually, farming on auto, only paying attention to the lore 😅

[@guobacertified]

Sounds good if I do this again!

[@Blez1224]

@@guobacertified you're the best! 😁

[@cleod7439]

Something that didn't mention is how good the core tingyung + hanya + Gallagher is. Only have to take in consideration that hanya have to run 171 speed (tingyung and Gallagher around 155 speed). In that core imbibitor can run 140 speee with hanya buff, and even with imbibitor E2 this core can keep with the sp needs 100% of the time.

[@monkeydluffy5054]

Thanks for the guide video cause I’m still trying to farm the new set

[@naganishanthj8938]

You are there when we need the most ❤

[@viviblue7277]

ER rope can be very good on E2 Lunae, especially if there is attack buffs coming from teammates. Also Bronya is a quite good teammate for him over the other harmony. Comparing my E6 Bronya to my E2 Robin it isn’t close, Bronya is way better. (And no I’m not a whale, I’m still missing two standard banner units I just keep getting Bronya).

[@rando843]

I mean to be fair hat's only true because Bronya is E6 lmao cuz otherwise her skill buff would SUCK for him since it would only work for a single turn

[@viviblue7277]

@ I can tell you E4 Bronya badly outcompeted E1 Robin. Just getting twice as many turns is a big deal even if you can’t keep all the buffs active at once. E6 is pretty crazy though no two ways about it made some clears as much as 10-20% faster.

[@Hmmmm...WhatAboutIt]

These types of videos are just so great for new players! As a new player going for my first limited 5 star, should I pull Acheron or Aventurine?

[@guobacertified]

Hard call since you got no one yet, Acheron can carry in DPS or Aventurine can carry Sustain. Maybe Aventurine and run a March Hunt DPS team to start off with?

[@resy-t9382]

I was waiting for this video glad to know nothing huge changed for these characters. I have got around 90 pulls saved and 3 banners I planned to pull on. Acheron's LC banner, Aventurine's Character banner or the upcoming Fugue Banner. S1 on Acheron looks good but, since I am guaranteed on character banner my plan is to get Aventurine as my 2nd limited sustain.

[@amp-le4699]

That Guoventurine is cute 😭 great guide!

[@EPICzTABLE]

as a aventurine lover, going for sub-dps build, having s1 ( one day e6 ), this gave me strenght to farm relics for him ive been using 2pc def 2 random since his release when I first got him cuz I pre farmed to 80 10/10/10/6 him and forgot abt the relics and honestly I just havent bothered going for it till now

[@An1metrev1n]

I need aventurine for my follow up team for sure. I'm using gepard, guinifin, Dr ratio and topaz. Will replace gepard with adventurine

[@beanswater]

So nice to finally have a rerun only banner phase and I have all of them. Finally got some breathing room to save some pulls, of course it'll be all gone once Sunday and Fugue comes.

[@JostleJins]

I was able to get DHIL's signature lc this patch! now he's e2s1! plus my sparkle is currently at 159 speed sacredos so I'm almost done with that. Still waiting for an eventual relic set based around my boy though...

[@kilagraa]

i cant believe i was torn between getting luocha and aventurine. good thing i made the right choice.

[@LikeAFemaleDog]

One thing I'd like to add to Acheron, is an option I've found myself using a lot, specially on Pure Fiction. I'm talking about a Preservation Unit with Trend of he Universal Market, the burn effect will proc Acheron's passive, allowing her to cast her ultimate more often during the battle. This is particularly helpful on stages where the enemies have AOEs, or in Pure Fiction when a new wave pops up at the end of a turn, which results on all the new units getting a free attack, with a defender with this Lightcone you can be able to clear this new wave, saving you some health and possibly a turn.

[@krzysztofwisniewski8325]

He kinda mentions it in aven part, but as you said, it works with others units aswell.

[@curryfishheadenjoyer]

Yea that strat has been around for a long time, preservation tb is actually the best user of the trend lc because they have a guaranteed taunt, and you don't need much sustain in pf, though gepard is good too because of his increased aggro. Assuming you don't have jiaoqiu of course since jiaoqiu is pretty much a more consistent trend

[@TelikiMouse]

Even though this banner is close to the new character banner. I will still participate in this event for adventurine. As new player having someone like adventurine will help alot

[@cuthalion9573]

Good luck to all wishers! I go for Aventurine. Need him for my Feixiao. His sustain is so crazy and in this team, their is so much FuA. I think Hybrid would be the best idea.

[@cito9491]

Yes, I've wanted this for a bit for reruns. I think also include E1 vs S1, since it's a rerun a lot more people who are pulling are likely to consider that. MIght has well Do E2 vs S1, for people who got E1 S0 from the first run, same with E1 vs S2, if they got E0 S1 from the last run. I know that sounds kind of dumb but you would deadass be the only person talking about that, and if people are pulling them now it'd be a character enjoyer type of thing so I think it's worth consideration. Maybe even E2 vs S2, at that point just calc it with their BiS teammates.

[@ghostsuru8429]

I've been grinding for Def Diver set for almost 100 days now. (Inbetween getting Trace and level up materials.) I am ready for sub DPS Aventerine to get here.

[@crow3769]

Planning to E0S0 Aventurine and get Acheron's LC, and if lucky and got early, I might test my luck on Acheron's pull

[@dennisl9176]

I think these rerun roundups are pretty useful, but i guess it depends on how much there is to say. I definitely think breaking down new relics and planars is very helpful

[@cishthefishcat]

i built my Aventurine purely as a shielder, but he also does decent(ish) damage because i accidentally gave him 49% CR and 61 CD with substats (he also has 5,200 DEF and because his entire kit scales off DEF that certainly helps) (also he uses Belobog of the Architects instead of Broken Keel, yet he still has 43 effect RES)

[@EvellerMac]

Goddamn my luck was insane these last patches, 2 acheron copies for e2 and her lightcone and 1 aventurine, holy damn 4 50s won.

[@DrekLiro33]

Thanks for the video! Always appreciate the hard work, but I have a question about the speed threshold of my sustain (here aventurine), do I keep it under 134 or not?

[@sheenpailovesu7841]

I am getting Acheron's E2 this rerun!! Sadly I am gonna be Aventurineless once more because after the E2 I have to start saving for my dear Fugue.

[@DatAsuna]

Something that could be cool in future would be if you did a roundup of the best updated builds for standard banner characters

[@guobacertified]

Planning on reworking their stuff for 3.0 probably :)

[@pajamajesse]

really good guides as always guoba! i'm kinda lost tbh, i'm guaranteed for whoever i want and i've always wanted aventurine bc im a meta slave but i also don't have firefly or any break dps really.. i fear i'm gonna have to skip him:(

[@MarmiteFerret]

Do a video on the best eidolons. Players have been around for a while now and might want to know where to invest jades to keep older units relevant.

[@halalbar]

guoba it would be nice for you to make a video on strategies for AS and how it might be different from MOC

[@adferr8867]

Thanks!!

[@shrimpesque]

I use Gepard/Huohuo, YUKONG and (Wish I had sparkle but well) any other harmony/nihility (wait Jiaoqiu might work well) for my DHIL E6 good trace'd Yukongs buffs are REALLY good...

[@Shrubbydubby]

i use both sparkle and yukong together they are fun to beef up dhil

[@guobacertified]

Chad yukong enjoyer :)

[@eugenarioshek70]

nice video mate! would u advise getting rappa now for fugue? cause im 100% going for fugue but i dont have any break dps whatsoever(nothing for break)

[@crisbermudez]

I have Fu Xuan E1, Luocha and Gallagher E6 as my sustains, I just completed todays MOC pretty good, but for my Acheron E2S1, Jiaoqiu E1S1, Sparkle E0S1, I think I want to pull Aventurine because he seems amazing and I feel like my Fu Xuan is having a hard time even tho she is build perfectly, but I feel like my Rappa E2S1, Ruan Mei E1S1 would really benefit from Fugue and Lingsha in the future.

[@anolifenamedblitz4548]

I KNEW I WASN'T THE ONLY ONE INSANE ENOUGH TO REALISE ABOUT THE BOOTHILL STANDOFF DEBUFF TRICK

[@nameless55697]

I was looking for ideas in how to build Aventurine since I really didn't want to farm the knight set. I am convinced to drop the 4piece effect for a 2p with spd.

[@sloppyjoppy8226]

i use pela and silverwolf for acheron for the max defense shred and applying weakness to enemies for her, works really well for me :D then theres my aventurine with 4k def and full dps relics because his lightcone is busted getting all my def from only sub stats

[@guobacertified]

Also a great team :)

[@RoyalBlue-ge2oj]

Wow thanks a lot

[@araara5956]

just when im starting to farm for aventurine thaanks :>

[@justahbeing2911]

Team F.A.M.M is what imma run Feixiao Aventurine March Moze. I love the art of jumping lol

[@infinitemidnightghostmourner]

I run a sustain/hybrid Aven with 5.7k DEF, Broken Keel, and 4 pc Knight. He still does decent damage even with DEF on everything

[@thelegendarydeadweight2968]

remember everyone if you pull for archeron makes sure to blast bury the light.

[@kertuo]

Thanks for the video. I was considering what to put on my Aventurine since I originally had 2 pc speed 2 pc pioneer and 2 broken keel with 4k defense and 34.8 crit rate/ 149.1 crit damage. Then I changed my build since he wouldn't be able to proc 2 pc pioneer since I be using Gepard LC. So now his build is 2 pc speed 2 pc FuA 2 pc broken keel with 28.3 crit rate / 79.8 with 4k defense. I use the second build since he can use FuA relics then Pioneer. I might wait to see what build to use when I do get him in his rerun.

[@gameslacker2711]

Just one thing, would be nice if you could add if the units are still a must-pull or not as I remember you mentioning Ruan Mei as a great character but not a must pull(the reason why I skipped her)....but then a lot of your builds for future characters that came after her had a LOT of RM in their team comps(especially break related) and I was stumped cause I didn't have her.

[@sammy5480]

I can't believe Acheron-Boothill and Acheron-Feixiao get a mention, but DoTcheron still gets snubbed...

[@guobacertified]

DoTcheron was mentioned in both OG acheron guides, its not a meme team its just a normal team people run

[@sammy5480]

@@guobacertified Yeah, but that archetype got 2 new variants, with Jiaoqiu replacing either Black Swan or Kafka. (i prefer the first option : Kafka's toughness damage is currently pretty valuable, especially in AS)

[@guobacertified]

@@sammy5480 How decent are those compared to JQ Robin / JQ Sparkle? Havent seen any showcases but ty for the info!

[@sammy5480]

@@guobacertified Since Kafka is the best Nihility shieldbreaker, she's very valuable in the current meta, especially AS. She can be really good in PF too, if both her and Jiaoqiu are built for damage. ------- I'm less convinced with Black Swan so far, but the current meta isn't kind to her in general. Also i haven't tried her on an energy focused build yet...

[@RaffoPhantom]

I think I have enough characters atm so I want to invest a bit more vertically. I'll probably go for E1 Ave

[@baguette_connoisseur]

I can't decide if getting Acheron's LC is worth it. Technically speaking, it's one of the best signatures. But. With how crazy the powercreep is in HSR, maybe in a few months' time Acheron will be mid even WITH her LC. I'd rather have bad E0S0 than mid E0S1. At least I can still have her for the powerful technique + collection sake

[@krzysztofwisniewski8325]

To be honest she feels way worse for me at E0S0 than FF or Rappa. Granted this moc is made for break characters. Feixao i played with Ratio LC so not entirely F2P. I still think she is worth pulling for the technique alone.

[@hibitches9784]

E1 bronya or e2 guinaifen

[@MichaelK34752]

i got acheron E0 S1 last time, pulled E1 yesterday now im farming for E2

[@guobacertified]

GL!

[@MichaelK34752]

@@guobacertified farmed around for a couple days missed 50/50 now im sadge. now we throw random singles till next banner.

[@vzx]

Jiaoqiu reduced the reason to E2 Acheron significantly for me. Stacking up to 5~6 Crimson Knots during enemy's turn is a pretty big boost to overall DPR. And since DEF shred and vulnerability debuffs are separate multipliers, Pela is still a perfectly effective Nihility unit to pair with E0 Acheron (SP positive and fast energy gathering).