Gurdjieff on War. Why it happens and what to do.

[@peterh.1521]

To be free man must gain inner freedom first.

[@vhawk1951kl]

You think? Gosh you know *eveything * Brian.

[@zesvo]

@@vhawk1951kl Gurdjieff himself said that. Check your evil ego attitude there buddy.

[@vhawk1951kl]

@@zesvo MYOB, you are about to dmonstrate that you have not the faintest ide what you mean by " ego" Who told you that Gurdjieff himself said what? Did you ever meet the man? NO, thus you can have no idea what he said unless he said it to *you*

[@vhawk1951kl]

@@zesvo bossy little sh1t aren't you titch?

[@zesvo]

@@vhawk1951kl It's on the video dolt. When they were handing out brains, you thought they said trains, and you missed yours!

[@vladimirnachev324]

Basically disregard war as something, this is right cognizance to understand that the labels and meaning one puts all result in certain effect, yet they're all illusory

[@vhawk1951kl]

Far better if you are*genuinely* interested in the ideas of Giorgivanic, to read the chapter in Beelzebub entitled EELZEBUB’S OPINION OF WAR. Being able to read Beelzebub generally separates the men from the boys when it comes to who is *genuinely* interested in the ideas. It seems a bit like trying to climb mount Everest with an elephant strapped to your back but it is wonderfully funny and has a magical effect if you can actually read the bloody thing all the way through; it's not for dilettantes. Getting to read it the required three times should only take you twenty or thirty years, but what the hell, it all depends on how much you need it and whether you really wantwant to have all your beliefs and views, by centuries rooted in you, about everything, " mercilessly destroyed" Which you don't now. When I first tried to read it I put it aside thinking fcuk this for a game of soldiers, but fifty plus years later I'm glad I plugged away at it- because it *really_is* wonderfully funny, in parts, but I tell you here and now you will not be able to red it- Or wish to. Fragments is for amateurs and dilettantes.

[@vhawk1951kl]

Joly good thing you know aaalll about that eh titch-noth, you are right, nothing beats a corpse most important is that titch be right. on n what altar must anything else be sacrificed?

[@sylviamalkahcalderoncourie6561]

GRACIAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@vhawk1951kl]

Can you not read the sodding book for yourself? that would be st least a little active

[@jamwri671]

War is caused by greed or insecurity.

[@eunoiaeudaimonia6829]

Which are ruled by archonic forces I.e. agents of entropy.

[@vhawk1951kl]

Hoe do you know? Sanctimonious little mouse (nothing and nobody) aren't you titch? What exactly is your objection to what you call but have no idea what it means " greed"? You have no idea? That you are about to demonstrate and and illustrate how religion makes fools of men(human beings/dreaming machines

[@vhawk1951kl]

How do you - a mouse(nothing and nobody) that has all the experience of war of garden furniture know*anything* about war? You, titch, would faint if you heard a car exhaust backfire- you don't even fool yourself , *do* you titch? You stick at what you are good at, titch, cinque contra uno, and demonstrating what fools religion makes of mice.

[@6969allgood]

Gandi got rid of the british warmongers with peacefull protest 🙂

[@gmw3083]

The weapons and covert means employed by technocratic governments make peaceful protests moot. The establishment creates their own controlled 'anti-establishment' entities that do the bidding of the state. The Canadian trucker protest was as peaceful as it could be. It was crushed by tru dupers goon squads.... As stated in this video. The masses are asleep. This is when civilizations crumble as they always have.....

[@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679]

Did he Hell.

[@vhawk1951kl]

Nonsense, it was the religion socialism that led to Indian independence whereafter the place went to pot and they started slaughtering oneanother.

[@lilakurylski4590]

What Gurdjieff said about the moon?

[@NAP-WHL]

G. said this had the greatest influence upon organic life on Earth. He was right.

[@zesvo]

He said "Humanity is food for the moon."

[@vhawk1951kl]

What Gurdjieff said about the moon to whom, you? - when? Giorgivanic said all sorts of things to all sorts of people he also... Gurdjieff: I will tell you something else. You have a weakness which he who works with me must destroy. You believe. You must never believe. You must criticize everything, accept nothing which you cannot prove, like two and two make four. Believing does not count, it is worth nothing. You believe, you identify Did he say any of that or have I just plucked that out of context? The point is is that you*believe* because you can't help believing exactly as you can't help identifying withe the reactions of your functions, orr are you theirs?X says G said this that or the other, an.... like it or not... you *believe* him. True, or not true? What *Exactly are you doing (or what is being done to you) when you *believe*? either you *need* to know, or you don't give a flying fcuk- which is it? it's not a game or another fcuking religion; how deep are you prepared to go?

[@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679]

When/if you have stopped being a slave is it particularly important to try to free the other slaves? Just a thought.

[@annebeignatborde1832]

He was himself still not fully awake if he attributed the cause of war to external forces.

[@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679]

And what do YOU attribute it to?

[@vhawk1951kl]

How the fcuk would you know little dreamer?

[@anatureperson5551]

@@thebaryonacousticoscillati5679 All wars are banker wars.

[@zesvo]

@@anatureperson5551 It is all the Buddhists Three poisons , Greed, Anger, and Ignorance of our True Nature.

[@zesvo]

Osho, Sadhguru, and many other Masters have said he is Enlightened.