"It came down to the last minutes on the clock" Brian Deegan tried to make Factory KTM deal work

The biggest news in the Motocross and Supercross industry this week was the signing of Dangerboy Haiden Deegan to the Star Racing Yamaha Factory Racing Team. How close did Danger boy come to signing with KTM? Brian explains...
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Brian Deegan joins us on the podcast once again on the heels of their Star Racing Yamaha announcement. This is some of the biggest news in the industry right now not only for a racing perspective, but also from the media and marketing angle.
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[@Deegan38]

Heavy talks. 💪🏼💪🏼

[@GYPSYTALES]

Appreciate the open and honest conversation... I think you guys have given the whole industry a peek behind the curtain at what goes in to a deal like this.

[@elmetzicano1720]

Great dad advice 👍 -Fellow Dad

[@Cosm1cCream]

Yee yee

[@michaelback283]

No Doubt, I thought for sure KTM would have done what needed to be done. Is Caleb( British sounding training guy) still with Haiden?

[@nathanshifflet]

@@michaelback283 he will train him when ever Haiden is in Cali

[@thomasphilyaw8593]

Talk about being uncomfortable...Haiden giving KTM their bike back in person. HEAVY... Great learning experience

[@drakekincanon9369]

Thats what i was honna comment lol

[@donbrashsux]

Haiden will not just be a champion rider he will follow his dads lead and be a great businessman one day

[@jpesicka999]

@@donbrashsux hope u can have a busier life so you’ll have less time to make terrible predictions like this about people who are actually putting in the work

[@dhdyrjfmenrydka]

@@jpesicka999bro 😂😂

[@eighty_eight]

@@jpesicka999 stick to your mediocre gameplay.. Deegan is a champ now lmfao

[@justin92416]

Never thought the Brian Deegan I watched years ago would be a person I would take advice from and especially as a parent! Teaching your kid at a young age how to handle tough decisions will be a great skill to have later in life! Props to him and the family!!!

[@Javelin405]

well said

[@cknorris3644]

People like Deegan go hard at whatever they do. He became a parent and decided to go hard at that. Definitely inspiring.

[@travisbickle9357]

Yeah, he's great!

[@djjazzyjeff1232]

He is awesome. It's easier to see know that back in the day yeah he got caught up in the craziness a little bit but mostly he was just playing in to it because it was sort of the character he was being. Which I'm all for. I think we need a little bit of that WWE Pro Wrestler type attitude and stuff in sports, especially in motorsports.

[@Killacam1992]

He was playing a character as most people who are successful in entertainment do. 90% of what you see in movies, shows, videos and tv is fake/over exaggerated/scripted/setup. I grew up in Orange County and lived in Temecula and have friends that know him or rode with him and my dad worked in Faisst’s property when I was a kid and I’ve been to a few X-games and met Deegan when I was in high school. Deegan was always a solid dude he was just really smart at marketing and promoting the Metal Mulisha brand and business.

[@zayuh2313]

Maaan. I love how many great lessons Brian truly is teaching haiden. Especially for the industry he’s in. With the family and legacy of deegan he could’ve turned out soooo diff but all of this has shown the importance of a great father teaching the right things no matter where you come from. Not just hard work and talent. We’ve all known it of course but this is a perfect example because of him growing up how he has, to be turning out the way he is. My hats off to you man forreal you’ve done youre job.

[@kylesanders851]

Brian deegan should start a management company. This dudes rewrote the whole process to how to become a priceless factory rider. Guarantee haiden changes so much in the whole game. I’m excited to see the rules changes because of how much the deegans bring to the table

[@mixalis6168]

ahaahahaahahah

[@theadorebundy4514]

Deegan is so based. Being how his pro career went he's grown so muxh as a man and father. This is how you raise your kids. His kid has it better than most and he still is based and teaches his kids respect and how to be honorable. Nice. And i think we all knew they would go with some monster sponsored team. Monster been Brians sponsor since the OG days.

[@randyphillips4508]

The first pro athlete that Hansen Energy sponsored was Brian Deegan, before they became MONSTER ENERGY.

[@GT-mn3bx]

And Hailey. Lets be honest, ot is about money.

[@thomaswebby2431]

What is based?

[@mattbarrois8675]

I was watching this thinking what Pastrana said about him being a poser was so damn true. He is so smart and calculated and a very respectable person which is the opposite of what he portrayed with the metal mulisha

[@Andy-co6pn]

@@thomaswebby2431 I'm guess well grounded

[@Capt.K72]

Can listen to Brian all day. Such a smart dude in terms of business and getting best for his kids. Respect 👊🏼

[@dekancaine]

Absolutely I’d like to talk to him abs learn some stuff about business

[@Capt.K72]

@@dekancaine And that's not even mentioning the rider himself and how much I looked up to him when he was shredding. Cool guy all round

[@travisbickle9357]

Yep!

[@brianl376]

He is such a good dude, and a good dad. Those are tough lessons to learn as a kid. But you always look a man in the face a shake hands and say thank you out of respect. Much respect to the Deegans. He is raising good humans

[@Bd212_]

This dudes podcast just keeps getting better. When you and Deegan get together it’s all time man.. so much insight into how a legend navigates life, it goes way deeper than moto.

[@merccrewlcab2385]

Good on ya Brian! Well done and classy move. So is Huckson on the Blu Cru now too? He must be stoked too eh!

[@trophyburro]

The world will be a lot better place if more people laid it out like Brian. It is always inspiring to see some one be open and vulnerable vs all the perfect bullshit we see on most social media.. Great lessons for parents out there. .I always learn something.. Have to give it up too Jase as well. You are killing it as an interviewer. Leading gently to the topics and but always seem so genuine and you can tell you are stoked for these guys. Best platform to get this stuff out for the Deegans.. !!

[@davidestright4439]

Never heard of this podcast. Quikly become 1 of my favorites. Please keep all the deegans talking it's do great such a American family. Also the guy that ask the questions seems like a super cool dude. Keep the content coming fellas

[@chriscollins2647]

Hey man your pod cast has really become my go too .I look forward to your future and the guys and interviews .Keep it up and thanks for the hard work

[@craigmayhan4009]

Brian did what was best for his boy. Don’t think for a second KTM or any other factory team won’t kick them to the curb if they don’t produce results.

[@Espenrip]

True and agree. I remember Yamaha dumping Antonio Cairoli despite the fact he was winning EU Championships. KTM embraced Antonio and he produced more CHAMPIONSHIP races. Slap the shit out of yamaha. So it does goes both ways.

[@bjarman125]

such a stand up guy....shake hands and say thanks...NEVER burn a bridge....dad of the decade

[@christophercastor6666]

Of all the 90’s FMX dudes, Deegan was the last person I expected to be AN AWESOME DAD AND ROLE MODEL FOR DAD’S everywhere. He’s definitely not ghost riding parenthood! As always, Thank You -CY Castor

[@chriskendrick883]

That is stand up stuff right there...Brian is showing Haiden the way and this is the best way! Big Respect!

[@d-rail1514]

Great interview. Brian, props to you, the world would be a much better place with more fathers like you. 👍

[@vinceedwards3978]

This is a very good representation of how to negotiate in this sport. Brian had no bad words for KTM. It doesn't always work this way....multiple examples exist to the contrary

[@K9COP282]

Haiden is VERY LUCKY to have such a business smart and grounded dad!! Brian, having been in and around the professional motocross/supercross racing world for as long as he has, and now teaching Haiden how to build those relationships and decisions and sticking with those tuff decisions! Gotta admit, I’m VERY STOKED to see Haiden on that Blue YZ!! Kids gonna reel in titles like Bill Dance did bass!!

[@koennelson3799]

After watching these clips + the whole 3hr podcast shows how smart Brian Deegan really is ! He’s the man!!

[@codyhenley12]

Brian i gotta give it to that guy. Hes a great guy with lots of respect for other human beings and now he gets to instill this type of respect into his son. Its the best thing he can do to help his son in his career of motocross. My hat is off to brian im sure if his son takes in everything his dad is teaching him, haiden could be one of the motocross legends. Congrats on the new team!

[@robinthomas2596]

Brain is a awesome dad...one of the greatest, I hope hayden is just as great or better...much respect

[@B_M_A]

Keep the loyalty to the Deegans man. Love your podcast and I'm a guy who doesn't keep up with anything dirtbike related except for a few OG FMX guys. Keep up the good work love all your interviews.

[@GYPSYTALES]

Thanks so much G

[@dusty6345]

I hope this is how Brian really is. I believe it is,, what a cool family. A great lesson to teach his son, and much respect for how they broke up with KTM.

[@bryanharness1122]

Such a cool family. Been watching Brian since he was racing

[@av8567]

Deegan's interviews on gypsy never disappoint. Top notch dude on the best podcast🤘🤘👍👍

[@MrBobbit666]

Your a FN awesome Brian I remember being 3 row at the first crusty tour in Sydney someone in the first row threw beers at I'm sure it was you and Seth so my mates and I began to swear at them and we were goin to give them a flogging for throwing beers at you guys security came and thought it was us cuz we were so fired up then everyone around us backed us and said it was them guys so they got thrown out then one of my mates jumped the barrier and got escorted out but got to meet Seth in the tunnel man they were the days and you Brian have come such a long way I could only hope to instil the values in my boys that you have in yours your a bloody legend mate!!!

[@thisisben3593]

beautifully said by Deegan and well handled. You never burn bridges

[@Deegan38]

Well at least not any more. Lol

[@thisisben3593]

@@Deegan38 Honestly I bleed blue, now you guys are Ford and Yamaha. . . My heroes now, that black, blue and monster logo. . . .no combination can beat it. And i honestly believe and why im such a massive yamaha fan, is that if Yamaha wants to win anything and everything on 2 wheels. . . .they can and they do. I 100% agree that this is your best shot at a championship, the brut force of the yamaha and the untouchable know how of Star racing, lethal combo

[@user-wh8ls5ec6k]

I met Tyler Evans when my son was little at indy,such a nice person. R.i.p brother

[@showtime951]

Credit to Brian to share credit where credit is due. Our good friend Nathan Ramsey is as great a human being, knowledgeable a racer, and as straight a shooter as you could ever hope to run into. He has also developed quite a portfolio of managing teams and directing and working with up and coming racers. I'm honored to call him a friend.

[@larrystokes8006]

I have a lot of respect for Brian Deegan and his family. I always have but I'm very pleased to see the way that Brian is raising his boy to be respectful even with all that hes been given to him.. Turn him into a man , he will be a champion

[@drewjonespdx]

Nathan Ramsey was my biggest moto inspiration as a kid when he was #25 on split fire Kawasaki

[@GYPSYTALES]

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[@Simon-Simon-Simon]

KTM have been in racing in all forms and all teams are i'm sure they know it cuts both ways and its part of the game they may want HAYDEN BACK one day then it will cut what ever teams he's on

[@chadhall5921]

I can’t believe that This channel doesn’t have a million subs it’s absolutely the best moto pod cast!

[@jdm91hatch]

Class act right there folks 🙏🤘

[@heavyshoulders]

Dude I have souch respect for Brian Deegan and his fam👊🏼

[@brooksy2093]

You just got to respect Brian & his approach to the way he is trying to give direction to his kids. Brian was soooo loose back in the day but has grown to be a great example of how to be a Moto Dad & be respectful & acknowledge those who have helped his kids to become great athletes & grow them to hopefully be great human beings. Kudos Brian Deegan

[@bradleymorris8875]

Loose is …. Rad. I was going to call him “Dickish” but in review of my thoughts. He is a marketing genius. He used everything he had at his disposal to advance not only himself… but his whole family.

[@brooksy2093]

@@bradleymorris8875 he created a great business model early in his career which grew into the Metal Mulisha without even knowing.

[@mikedubs7212]

Much respect

[@alwynjones465]

That boy has been brought up in a old fashion way. Very respectful hard working yes the family have money but money won't help you pin it over 120 foot triple, wish him all the best

[@Jgibb69]

Videos are on 🔥 Jase! Good work. Brian is a class act and in the end he put Haiden and his future 1st.

[@natelaemmlen8337]

What happened to the audio on the other end? Lot of echo that didn't used to be there.

[@michaeljones3242]

Brian Deegan raising his kids right with respect morals and respect top rider and a gentleman businessman can’t wait to see #38 on the top step of the podium 🏆

[@iceKOId]

Brian understands Business but he also understands there is a human element of business. Bravo ❤

[@jacobquinn3585]

I’d like to know how much the Monster Vs Redbull sponsorship came into the decision. Sounds similar to Tomac staying with Monster but switching teams

[@pax497]

Big Time!!

[@trakstr1170]

A lot more than they’re letting on for sure!

[@RobertSmith-vc8vz]

This is dope from a fathers stand point to watch . For anything in life , you teach your kids to respect people and look them in the eye and spit truth . Whether good or bad .

[@Javelin405]

What a great video...great Dad...

[@chrishaeger4286]

Heavy lessens make a better rider in the long run!!!!! Nothing is easy and I respect the way this fam approch to the sport and the teams. Mad Respect Deegan Fam!!!!!

[@Australiabra]

Release the video of the full podcast pleaaaaaaseeee!!

[@GYPSYTALES]

Check the links in the description

[@shanee9943]

My cousin Christian is on that team. SICK!!

[@williamschuman4951]

I remember when you did the two backflips in a row I think 100 footers at X Games back in the day, now that was F in awesome.

[@chrisvids1820]

Mike Metzger?

[@WildnFast]

Those 18 people who rated this video a thumbs down are really telling us 1500 people who have rated it a thumbs up so far that they just don’t understand how to be respectful in a business setting, especially with motorcross/ supercross being so family oriented. If you were a long time high level racer you would know that.

[@DozerMoto]

all about brand loyalty nothing else . Monster has put a lot of money into the Deegans . think they want a Red Bull logo anywhere near this family ?

[@pax497]

Yup.. nail on head

[@shotgunbrown2821]

Straight up pimpin @Gypsy Tales

[@bryanluntz1603]

Solid Family Wish you all the best

[@mickeybeahl2233]

On the flip side I'm ready to see Haiden to do his thing with the blucru!

[@AdamWaheed]

Deegan is the man.

[@thecatchtherelease8982]

i remember meeting deegan when i was 6ish years old in australia that was 20 years ago and he’s still my favourite rider of all time!

[@johns3292]

It's good promotion for all brands involved. Now the dreaded "potential" must be realized by a talented adolescent. GOD Bless and hold fast!

[@dsm02c]

Yeah, as much as we all admire these factory guys and as cool of lives they live, the pressure is huge.

[@RodDuster]

Think he was about 10 years old the first time I saw him ride a 250 on yt, think dad knows his son well and has done a great job teaching him respect which many forget about when they find fame and all the trimmings, in turn you can bet in the future if the time is right, KTM would have him back in a heart beat 👍🏻

[@kevinpetitt4596]

Love that he had haiden talk to them. Respect that shit.

[@goodyfeelzmusic2387]

Brian Deegan is the best moto Dad in the sport!!

[@tacticalpeacock4828]

Got to respect a man for wanting what is best for his son.

[@dsm02c]

Jase is a solid dude. Seems like he really is in it for the right reasons and because he loves it.

[@bensimmonds1026]

Great vid mate. I’m curious, if they had chose Ktm. Were they open to the Deegans bringing Monster and Thor with them? Something we may never know….

[@GYPSYTALES]

Thats in the full podcast legend

[@bensimmonds1026]

@@GYPSYTALES my memory is 💩 then, I’ll have to go back and listen again 😂

[@sonicthehedhogsmyers4993]

Is haiden going to race in Arlington this Saturday Brian

[@douglasgrosch228]

Let's see how he stays up with lights lots of competition... Time will tell..years..ahead

[@holdenfoley8166]

Do u have a pod cast explaining how a factory ride works I'm just starting to fallow moto and don't really understand what a pro rider gets

[@GYPSYTALES]

I dont mate but maybe thats a good piece of content we can make for the 2022 season

[@scottieskatan4219]

On yah Deegs one of the most loyal dudes in the game.....

[@cknorris3644]

From audio equipment, musical instruments all the way to motorcycles...Yamaha just makes nice products. I don't know what it is but they definitely don't play around.

[@mrda-jy2nt]

I wonder if Haiden will be like Coop. Do great on the Yamaha 250, then do alright on the Yamaha 450. Now look at him on a KTM 450

[@jeffnickels6199]

Star has that 450 dialed in it seems. Whatever magic they found on it seems to have finally made that reverse-engine work on the big bike.

[@bansheex2918]

I'm happy he is with yamaha I'm blue forever...

[@pjsneeringer5942]

Deegan seems like a great parent. MUCH PROPS

[@IndyMotoBoy]

Keep up the good work. Pulp needs some competition and it’s not DMXS.

[@kidzchillchill]

Love deegans

[@haydenbraun1678]

hell yea

[@josephtang5470]

He is building legends ! that is family !!!

[@josepy121380]

Make the hard decision. Move on and progress. Great Line

[@jordanjohnston-rose6704]

Nate dawg is the goat🐐

[@nicholaszamelis9471]

Damn dude, what a dad.

[@maverick2242]

Interesting but I still can’t help wonder how big a part Monster is in this decision, was Monster Energy a factor, why isn’t this question asked? Also stock the Yamaha is a strong bike, is it the best, well Honda won outdoors and the title in the Lites class! Kawasaki, KTM Husky all have strong packages and got great results indoors and outdoors and I’d argue KTM currently aren’t pushing the Lites class as hard as they do in Europe! The bikes good enough, they just don’t have yet the best or one of the top flite riders, Max is coming hard and fast though. Personally I think too much is made of the bike in the lites this year, last year def it was stronger than the Honda’s but I don’t feel the gap to Husky, KTM or Kawi is as big as made out, riders like Ferandis made the difference and the team support dynamic”s and Star has had the biggest team, this is proven by Ferandis doing it again in the 450 class in his rookie year. Forkner could rip a moto when he wasn’t crashing his brains out with brain explosions, AC was the same, Max at 16 also had some great results and consistent top 10 on the KTM, RJ Hampshire the same if not injury he was one of the fastest in the class, Jalek Swollen also won a round, this is young talent, not seasoned pros like Ferandis or Justin Cooper. PC are having a rough few years and others have had funding issues and not the strongest rider lineup, good riders capable riders but too prone to injury and just nit quite on same level, but IMO the bikes have been good enough, teams may it have been, because look at Honda this year, same bike yet the Factory arguably gave the Lawerence brothers better support and better kit to work with, no dis on Geico, I think they were hamstrung by politics and funding issues., Reverse of a Yamaha handing the reins to Star at the 450 Factory level. KTM is still one if not the strongest currently on premier SX, Webb had allot to do this year without a team mate and Husky riders weren’t exactly the most helpful. Also an all new platform for 2023, KTM never rest. I wonder also was the KTM factory bike tested was a handoff from the season, where as Yamaha have given him a complete new bike, bit different to having a bike built for you. Still Star is up there no question with the bets right now, but I do think it’s over hyped, results bear that out, Honda and KTM took titles as did Star in SX and outdoors 450 . Lorettas who dominates, that’s the true test of brand dominance! Though I won’t be surprised to see allot more blue next year, all new 125, it’s sic, 250 2t is also strong new 85 and the Deegan brand will def impact that at LL. next year no question Just some of my thoughts.

[@mysterious_tim]

This was an excellent read!

[@tcmx712]

Their recent success is also built off older career 250 guys aswell. Ferrandis, J-Mart, Nicholls and Craig are all pushing 30 soon and even Cooper is getting on for a 250 rider. Sexton is 2yrs younger than Cooper so imagine if he was was still racing in the 250 class along side the Lawrence brothers would people then be saying HRC is the best team??? I doubt it.

[@maverick2242]

@@tcmx712 I’m not sure I understand ya point about the best team re Honda, I never said that, might not be what you are saying, just that Star didn’t win everything, you are right about the others being further into the later age and experience bracket and even then we see with Jmart you still have to ride smart on these 4t especially and no matter how good the bike is at this level, I was just pointing out I think personally and no criticism of their decision to go to Star at all, a, excited for it, but I do think the Star thing is over hyped in terms of how good they are, not saying they aren’t good, they clearly are one of the best teams out there and again I love seeing their success, I think KTM have the best SX Program at 450 level, outdoors they struggled to dial in the bike, but lites the bikes were good and most of those guys are very fresh except RJ Hampshire who is well experienced, Honda got it right for the Lawerence bros and we’re good in and outdoors in the lites. I think the bikes are allot closer at factory level in the lites than the hype suggests. With programable ECUs any top tuner can tune a bike to run the characteristic’s the individual rider wants or needs, if they are good enough to know that in the first place, Star clearly got that right with the 450 where as the Factory run team couldn’t or wouldn’t. Anyways gonna be sick to see him on the race track, I’m just looking fwd now to seeing him race, decisions made, let’s go. 🤘

[@tcmx712]

@@maverick2242 yeah I'm agreeing with you 100%, I just mentioned HRC in the sense that if they didn't put Sexton on a 450 so early he'd probably be winning 250 championships and if that happened I doubt people would be hyping HRC up the same way they are with Star

[@johns3292]

You guys sold KTM bikes and promoted the brand for years (how many subs seeing orange & black?). No shenanigans and all respect as you attempt to navigate the unknown future. Well done 38 's.

[@edwatkins1885]

Break ups are tough but never burn bridges

[@ddmx4889]

Deegans are a great example of how intelligent some moto families can be. Not all are, by a long shot. They are legit doing it the right way and I want to see that kiddo succeed in the best way!

[@Campfishfamily]

Let’s be honest, as great as the KTM 450 program is, they have done exactly shit with the lites bikes in recent years. Star is where it’s at in the 250 class, just like KTM is where it’s at in the 450 class. Nothing wrong with going where you have the best chance to win.

[@tedgarcia8922]

Nothing wrong with going... True Blue .

[@amfk8079]

Does the whole family ride blue now or how does that work? Huck on a yz85?

[@spooge33]

They gave Brian a bike, so prob.

[@sexatica]

@@spooge33 I think he is gonna be orange brigade if he still works at it

[@AntiPattern328]

I kind of wich he would have been able to stay with KTM. Over in Europe, they rule the 250 class right with the Yamaha's. I would worry about there being so many hotshots at STAR that if you have a rough year or get hurt, I feel KTM would stick it out, STAR... Maybe not so much!

[@2216sammy]

Stars the right choice.

[@will.134]

if haiden had stayed on ktm how would the redbull and monster sponsors work out ? Would he had to off dropped monster or kept it and dropped redbull or drop monster and get on redbull

[@josephmayer8880]

I think haiden is gonna give Jett Lawrence a big run for his money in the future. I think haiden is the future champion of moto.

[@DaveEPie]

Haiden is AT least 3 years away from giving the Lawrence’s any kind of run. By that time Jet could be a Champion 2 more times and going onto Premier class. Hopefully deagan and Lawrence brothers stay injury free . Deagan has never raced in EU like the Aussie’s . That is a huge proving ground.Give it 2 years and we might see them race a 250 national.That would be worth watching

[@FarmerFpv]

I freaking love the Deegan's. Brian always gives great life advice. I learned a lot from him. He's an awesome dad, rider, and businessman. Haiden is already following in his footsteps. He's maturing quickly.

[@nickroller8028]

I hope he lives up to the hype

[@trolyoly4727]

What’s going on with this audio? I love this podcast but the audio makes it almost unbearable

[@anthonytamilio9501]

Im exctied to see them go with star yahama. I woukd have rather seen him on hrc honda tho

[@dannyv2335]

As of right now just after Tampa round 2 for East Coast 250’s do you think KTM is thinking they should’ve done any possible to keep Haiden on a KTM?

[@2216sammy]

Probably but Yamaha is definitely the right choice.

[@iceKOId]

@@2216sammy​​⁠the bike doesn’t matter much , Haiden would’ve been successful on any machine. History has shown the best riders like McGrath, Carmichael, Stewart, Dungey, they can all win championships on different bikes. The rider makes up for 90% if not more.

[@DeceiverIX]

Team Deegan ALL DAY.

[@jarednelson1865]

Brain “you know” Deegan

[@bingbong5939]

Jared "nobody know's" nelson

[@AAAskeet]

Good one

[@TriptoCo]

KTM is massively going to regret for not pulling out all the stops to retain Haiden for them. Kid is gonna destroy the competion for years to come.

[@tonywhiley3303]

Can’t fault them for the way they’ve acted either. No point burning bridges this early into a career. It’s a small industry after all.

[@sunrealclothing]

Moto dads take notes!