Does Phil Nicoletti know anything about a YAMAHA 350?! - Gypsy Tales

With the WSX in town and a couple of the boys deciding to stay and enjoy the Gold Coast post race, it was the perfect time to smash out a couple pods. In this Chapter of the podcast we were lucky enough to be joined by one of the legends of the game, Filthy Phil & long time factory wrench Ben Schiermeyer! These guys are a wealth of knowledge in the sport and it was super fun to sit down for a few hours of BS'n in the wake of the Australian Supercross GP.
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[@markmontgomery2562]

Phil is classic. When he was the backup at JGR. They could call on him at any time and he could go out and make 450 Supercross main. American bad ass.

[@islanddoggear]

Lol i didn’t know that about him that’s sick

[@cfox109]

I'd get a Yamaha 350 in heartbeat

[@jpesicka999]

ya, check out some of the 270 builds out there. pretty inexpensive to do, preferably a 2020 model would be the best to do it on imo, can be had for around $6k and the mod is like $500.

[@johnfeminella9839]

If Yamaha made a 350 forget about it it would be the best bike ever created

[@TommyGunz94]

facts.

[@MARCHOFTHESAS]

I’d get one

[@guyonthecouch136]

Yeah I agree 2 stroke 350

[@johnnyhopkins7297]

Nah Josh mosiman would still hate on it

[@chazzgonzalez1356]

@Duke Bonde you just can’t ride one

[@kylegreen378]

250 2 stroke with the mildest powervalve spring. Now you're actually saving weight over a 450 as well 😉

[@MrHabitat009]

Phil for president!!!

[@straighttimestirrups]

I’m not sure Yamaha could keep up with the demand if they offered a YZ350F. It’s totally amazing to me that the Japanese MFG’s only provide the public with what they want to sell and not what the public wants to buy! Every Japanese manufacturer should at a minimum make a 125 two stroke and a 350 4-Puke!

[@flowersthewizard9336]

It's the type of capitalism and culture that makes them less likely to try expensive new ideas when they can still perfect what they have

[@flowersthewizard9336]

Suzuki not changing their bikes for years probably because it's too expensive to r&d so they just build what works

[@tomstevens7452]

They have a gentlemans agreement to not make them as Honda can afford to make them all and the others do not

[@straighttimestirrups]

@@flowersthewizard9336 personally I’m ok with Suzuki not updating their 4 pukes. Makes them attractive for Entry Level. Where I differ with them is they should reproduce their 07 125/250’s with modern suspension and brakes.

[@johnbabb1138]

@@tomstevens7452 Kawasaki is a bigger company than Honda .

[@MichaelAbramo]

The 280cc kit for the YZ250F is amazing. I rode a friends and he didn't tell me he has the big bore and it just has a little bit more... I'm not a moto guy so I don't know the general opinion on 350's but for the woods a 300 4-stroke seems like a great setup.

[@markogorman5210]

Ride a 350 then come back and talk

[@teamflanneloutdoors5631]

Until the motor takes a dump and you have to rebuild it💵💵💵

[@jpesicka999]

@@markogorman5210 he said he didn't have an opinion on 350 so, and Yamaha has far better suspension, a KYB conversion is like 2k for KTM/Husqy/GASGAS. The price to performance is just not as good as the Yamaha. Even tho the 19 FC 350 w/ KYB prob one if not the best bike I have ridden I havent tried a YZ250F only 450.

[@grski900000000000000]

Fair play for openly admitting that even a guy with really good bike skills can’t tame the modern 450s , you have to be on point to use that much power , 350s might be the perfect balance 🦾

[@smoke2275]

I’m 47y/o, been riding since I’m like 7. My main dirt bike I ride is a YZ250F. Hell my road bike is only a CBR 600. Both bikes do everything I need them to do. There are times I wish my 250 had a touch more power. I just can’t bring myself to buy a Euro bike to get into a 350. I would love a YZ350 FX! That would be thee bike!

[@billysmallwood6640]

I second that yz350fx

[@jacoblevi2145]

I have a 91 dr350!! And I absolutely love it. Has plenty of power but is still very manageable and you can't beat the 6 speed transmission, it's like riding a Swiss army knife it does a little bit of everything well enough to be usable. Very versatile and plenty fast kind of heavy compared to modern bikes but who cares just suck it up and man handle it

[@benferguson1762]

When you are able to ride the 350 like a 250, it is brilliant. The better ability to stop, change lines and just ride a lot looser makes it faster.....just look at what happened when Josh Moz compared all 3 and went 2sec a lap faster on the 350 at My St Helen of all places.

[@h20mxracer222]

I've got a new kx 450. I just went to a Yamaha demo to ride the all new '23 YZ 's. The 450 is insane! The 250 wasn't enough for the way I lugg around the track. I'd be first in line to buy a YZ 350!!

[@zaantane4873]

Love the Phil,,,!!!! honestly he is amazing to listen too

[@4touchdowns1game29]

What's Crazy is that they are technically slow by 4 stroke standard. Kawasaki for example has an out of the box 250 four stroke that with a tune can make 61 HP.

[@RMZ2fiddy333]

Honestly I love 250fs and 125s the 450s honestly scare the shit out of me the power they have when u accidentally whiskey throttle it’s just terrifying

[@Stinky_sack]

I ride a 450. Only bike I have. It can definitely get away from you at times. It's when you get tired is when it gets scary. Swallow your pride and pack up. Not worth crashing when you can't hang onto it

[@Team3GR]

You would love a 350 then. I love 250s as well. I went from a 250 to a 350 and it was the perfect upgrade for me. The 350 packs the punch you are missing, but without the scare factor.

[@rockylocey4984]

I agree completely. But i still whiskied my 350 pretty quick trying to ride it like my old 250 😂

[@RMZ2fiddy333]

@@Team3GR I recently just wadded my self on a 250 two stroke when to rip a sand berm ran out of talent dumbed the clutch to early shot over broke my collar bone I’ll stick to the smaller bite bikes so I can rev the piss outta em and feel fast even tho I’m not lol

[@Team3GR]

@@RMZ2fiddy333 I hear you man. I now ride mostly single track and I'm riding a Husky TX300i. It's a lot of bike for me to handle. I ride in a higher gear and work the clutch to keep myself out of trouble. I rode a 250F two weeks ago and had so much fun. I didn't have to tip toe around the power and it felt really planted.

[@johnnyjohnson2942]

I built one in 07 out of a 07 250 xcf-w with a HT 315 big bore had to send the engine in a cooler to Ca. that bike ruled and I won the 07 SERA B Enduro championship on it!!

[@jordan1352]

Awesome story brother

[@mikeking7388]

had a 2010 crf 450r at 16 i had ZERO business on it I remember after I first started it my dad was like “that bike got a lot of power don’t it?” The man has no idea lol currently have a 2018 yz250 still to much for me but I manage

[@woodman4989]

I put a Red Moto 300 kit in my 23 CRF250RX and now I must say it’s perfect. It’s all about money and the assembly line. If they made a 350 now, they would be admitting they made a mistake not doing it years ago. The Japanese are very stubborn.

[@noonespecial1217]

Ken block said the same thing about his newest 22 mil all electric ride from Audi. He said with a traditional gas car with a gearbox you’re limited by the RPM for wheel speed, but with this new rig you have from 0 to 170 mph instantly. No more panic rev nose dives. Only Moto loop outs!

[@noonespecial1217]

Who will be the first to quad flip a Varg. Better get Travis in studio to talk about this!

[@rocket5106]

You're right about anyone can buy a 450 is crazy and the same person can buy a Yamaha R1 and think they can go 180mph and survive 🤣🏁🇺🇸

[@waynegarfield6607]

And what is crazy to fathom is that on a LOT of road race courses the average joe can go faster on a 600 R6 or even a 450 supermoto.

[@chase.dillon]

Big 350 guy

[@timeinam7078]

Dude this click bait got me so excited for a bit there 😂

[@MichaelWoljevach]

when my electric vehicle i drive at work cuts out that thing locks up. and there is no neutral or gears on these bikes so yea it gonna lock up it just not gonna roll free. #GAS4LIFE!

[@JoshStreetDesign]

Yeah that's the same with my Alta MXR. If you were to run out of juice it would be hard as hell to push that thing cuz it's the same thing as it being in gear on a gas bike

[@williams215s9]

I hope they do! I’ll buy it right. Now

[@Themusicbiz]

Damn I would get a Yamaha 350

[@gordonborsboom7460]

Maybe they would see it as a step back. The first YZF was a 400 cc which would make a 350 a “lesser” bike

[@aaronmachado13]

There’s a reason Cairoli raced with a 350 for so long , if anyone would be up to selling 350’s, I genuinely believe it’d be Yamaha as they’re the most innovative out of not only the Japanese OEMS but in motocross.

[@michaelanderson1727]

Yz350FX 💪😎

[@tomjuney5921]

I absolutely love my 350.

[@jpesicka999]

I rode a 19 FC350 and a 20 YZ450 and the 350 is way more rideable for me. I ride a 01 CR125 I think a 24 YZ250F will be my next bike. Unless Suzuki miraculously updates their bikes.

[@markogorman5210]

Yes but wouldn’t a 350 Yamaha be just perfect… I mean IF there was a YZF 350 would you be buying at YZF 250..?

[@jpesicka999]

@@markogorman5210heck no lol. But I rode a 23 YZ250F at a Yamaha Ride Day a few months ago and it’s the best bike I’ve ever rode even better than the FC350 for me. I like the feel of the aluminum frame but ya to your point I’d take a YZ350F I think I’ll end up on a YZ250F before that is ever a reality. The 270 kits are really good by cylinder works if someone wanted to bridge that gap. Twisted can map those pretty well even on a CRF a 270 kit works great.

[@pc-dc4gm]

I would instantly buy one, especially living at elevation

[@Wreckage72]

You know it’s interesting, the top level of the sport still requires homologation in order to race. But, what if the 450 turned into the f1 / motogp bike of motocross and then opened up the r&d flood gates figuratively. Then the top level retail sold bikes would go more towards a 350. It’s not gonna happen but it would be an interesting turn in the sport. I don’t need to own whatever bike Sexton or Anderson can ride at their max. But I’d also want to see how far budgets could push those exact bikes too. My stock 350sxf is ideal for me, but I don’t need it to be the same as the pros ride either.

[@samcooper4984]

350 best bike I've ever ridden

[@noControl556]

YZ250F's are fine, what they really need to make is a YZ 300X with an e-start

[@j-sammys5549]

Wouldn't even be a question. I would buy 1 immediately!!!!!

[@bryceridesbikes]

I’m more an off-road guy than a motocross guy, for a cross country bike redmoto out of Italy has a low compression 400cc small bore kit for the crf 450rx. It’s unfortunate that team orange is the only people putting out a middle weight bike.

[@Dashriprock4]

Beta has a nice 350 and Sherco, AJP and SWM have a 300. Redmoto also has a 300 and a 350 if I'm not mistaken

[@bryceridesbikes]

@@Dashriprock4 oh yeah, forgot about those guys. I guess I was only thinking the more main stream brands.

[@bryceridesbikes]

@@Dashriprock4 and last I looked redmoto only had the 300 big bore kit and the 400 small bore kit. No 350 that I know of

[@Dashriprock4]

@@bryceridesbikes I definitely could be mistaken. The Beta 350 is a great trail machine. The boutique SWM and AJP both use a legacy Italian Husqvarna 300cc motor. It’s a great engine. Old school thumper power and very reliable. Just very little support for this brands. I’ve heard the Sherco 300 is the best Eastern woods bike ever from several people. I have a Gas Gas 350ex. A ripper…

[@bryceridesbikes]

@@Dashriprock4 east coast woods machine sounds good to me, but if Yamaha did come out with a 350 built on that new chassis that thing could also be a woods weapon.

[@kristofers3562]

I have a new 450 FX, with the Power Tuner app you can make it feel like a 350

[@shawntblin5423]

They are very tunable now with the app. It’s a lot of power but it’s been smoothed out. I actually get less arm pump on my YZ450F then my CRF250R.

[@loadtoad714]

If they started racing 350’s. Jase would go down as the prediction of the century.

[@C322C]

It's more insane that people can buy a utv and head to the hills

[@crashtest603]

A Yamaha YZ350f would sell like hot cakes, they should seriously do it

[@prestondowell8121]

I agree 350s are the best but there will always be a place for a 450 there the fire breathing dragons that every one should try once

[@robertwetmore8799]

Thanks. Now I want a different bike!

[@Jake_Hamlin]

450s definitely have their place in the sand, like dune riding or deep sand tracks. 250s absolutely struggle in the sand.

[@kancitee]

Yep my crf 450 would be so fun on sand tracks and my kx 250f would be fun but struggle and id end up doing the valves every other ride almost 😂

[@macscrambles3644]

Need a yz350fx

[@TheShifty450]

Fuckin crazy idea.... just knock some of the power out of the 450 and bam! Makes absolutely zero sense to retool and re design a motor to go backwards

[@waynegarfield6607]

Not much to retool a piston and boresize. Everything else is identicle. However one of the points isnt just the power or weight difference between the 450 and 350 but the way it feels/ handles due to lighter spinning masses inside the engine, crank, counter weights , piston....the added weight overall is minor but the way it reacts by the physics of rotating mass and inertia ( resist to changes in angle, direction and accelerating,/ deaccelerating are massive.

[@htmn4hire176]

Bruh…. I would replace my bike tomorrow if Yamaha came out with a WR350

[@niners5time822]

Yamaha 350 dream!

[@cliffanderson7544]

Been riding Yamahas for 30+ years. I would buy one in a minute! They would sell the shit out of them!

[@emilopffer1069]

I want a YZ 360 How iconic below history

[@Runk3lsmcdougal]

Idk if I'd switch from my current 350 if Yamaha did make one, I had a 19 yz250f for 2 weeks, I thought it was absolute trash.

[@stanhalverson1840]

I can race the 450 in open and the 450 classes I can stop in the corner and still jump the triple .

[@Mr10usdad]

My restored 1996 CR250 two stroke has enough power for me.

[@jetdr]

Yamaha needs to make a 350, I would be there as soon as it hit the floor. They need to make a yz350fx, it would crush.

[@californiapoontappa]

I have bought many new motorcycles without a license... They def don't check lol

[@lboughto]

Yamaha 350??? Yamaha needs to start with a Two Stroke YZ300-X with E-Start their YZ250 is awesome but needs updated already. Man-o-man they would sell thousands instantly and they could compete with KTM off-road bikes. I switched to Beta 300RR but I would leave all the European bikes in a heartbeat for a Yamaha YZ300x with E-Start. If I rode a 4 Stroke, I am sure I would be a 350 kinda guy. I am sure Yamaha is working on an Electric Platform.

[@billyharrison3819]

I'm a vet rider and I wish the Japanese company would make 350cc bikes. I ride a 450 now.

[@tredeuce]

Rest easy Coy Gibbs

[@chrisdickson6379]

If only yamaha did! They would be sold out in a week !

[@MotoMatt418]

Would probably be the best selling bike in history

[@douglayman1843]

I gotta 2023 FC350......its my 3rd 350

[@aaronmx8]

If they make a Yamaha or Honda 350 I'm snagging one up

[@MARCHOFTHESAS]

Honda would never that ceased all production years ago you can thank them and ca for the whole industry going 4 stroke

[@marcbrooks8409]

Electric bikes are all I am waiting for now lol , and how will it change FMX with no rev limiter?

[@noControl556]

350's are for people who can't handle a 450 but still think they are too cool for a 250

[@iguanatron]

300 xc-w is KTM's top selling bike haha. 350 may be the highest selling mx bike though.

[@seashackf1]

I caught that too. He did clarify and say Motocross when Phil questioned it.

[@iguanatron]

@@seashackf1 i didnt hear him say that. My brother and I were talking about it right after, so I wasn't listening haha

[@jd43tv56]

Phil has CLEARLY never ridden an R1 lmfao

[@sergantskullfuk]

I would buy one day 1 yes please

[@shawntblin5423]

YZ 350F? Yamaha couldn’t build enough of them!

[@markogorman5210]

Amen brother ✊🇦🇺 This is what I’m saying.. it would be a best all time seller…. I’m dumbfounded why Yamaha can’t see it….

[@TheMikeguy7776]

You def don’t need a license to purchase a street bike. You do to ride it on public roads however. And a sport bike is way way more dangerous on public roads than any dirt bike in a corn field

[@Stinky_sack]

Manufacturers leaving so much money on the table right now because they don't offer a 350 platform

[@Tyler-bo5md]

If Yamaha made a 350 I would trade in my ninja 1000 in a heartbeat for it

[@numbzinger350]

If Yamaha made a 350 I would trade in my Sportster 1200 in a heartbeat for it.

[@jedielder7970]

I agree... 450 is overkill for most weekend warriors. Listen carefully to a 450 AMA Pro SX race and notice the bikes are not really being used to their full potential (you won't hear those bikes being revved out too much, because those tracks are so tight and the bikes have so much power. In many AMA Pro Nationals, yeah, you can hear that they are utilized more (like with Larocco's Leap). Remember when Doug Henry premiered a four-stroke in the AMA pro ranks, and won? That was on a 400. Today's bikes are faster/better. Also, look at how well Antonio Cairoli (Tony) did on a KTM 350 against 450's in his career in the MXGP's? Often he even got the hole shot. 350's are no joke. My new KX 450 is a scary bike and I'm replacing it before I kill myself on it (already caused severe injuries to my dumb ass). PS: Not sure what year it was, but I remember watching the likes of Steve Lamson and Ricky Carmichael kick everyone's butt in the open class for the MX de Nations... on a 125 smoker!

[@jpmorgen5726]

450 class should be changed to 350, but they will never do it, because it is too close to 250...

[@jarretstephen3089]

I have a 350. I can confirm, it's a little gay. However doing 3hrs races on a 450 would be difficult. For MX, give me the 45 O everytime.

[@jeffpallaro6952]

Yeah let's go back to 2 strokes.

[@douglasgrosch228]

CR 500 ??

[@matthewroberts4480]

Bring back 600s

[@zachfrye-lofley184]

Am I first tho?

[@cordellhoover8743]

no

[@KingFriday274]

My 250 is too fast.

[@waynegarfield6607]

How about a twin cylinder mxer for hp. .supermoto. if yamaha bulit a twin 900 from 2 450 cylinders, dumped it in a snowmobile, 4 wheeler, adventure bike, hyper moto they would sell shit tons of units. If they made a twin 509 from 2 250s and made a mxer, off road, supermoto and generl vet/ playbike same thing. Be different, be creative, originality is avoided at the expense of conservatism. Think outside the box....doesnt have to be the lightest, best mxer to sell. .the fun factor alone would do it. Hence the 350 KTM ....even tony knew it was harder to win on than a 450 at that level. But only he and maybe a dozen other earthlings can ride a 450 at that level to use that extra power. 99% of us can go betrer, longer ,faster on a bike with usable tamer power. Imagine a twin off road bike with over 100 hps but is linear because of high rpm and torque / hit isnt as strong as a 450 single. I would buy one in a heartbeat. In MXGP twins are legal.

[@richardferrell4362]

Big difference between a guy your size J and the pro guys 150 pounds in gear,, I am 220 pounds in gear. A 250 and a 350 do not have the power i need to keep a motor in it.

[@mitchellwiggin4075]

Yamaha lost me at Lorettas

[@JG7Racer]

🔥LIMIT the F-WORDS gosh. My 8 year old girl wants to watch BUT I CANT LET HER. ⚡️YOU GUYS WANT TO REACH THE YOUTH AT ALL?? ⚡️🙄

[@fugginrambo]

Phil could seduce anyone with that voice, even if he doesn't know if the Banshee is coming back.

[@CaddyJim]

Phil if you were riding an electric bike you hit the *"Throttle"* not the *"Gas"*

[@benholmquist1148]

Throttle is a word for a valve that controls air - so thats not it. The acceleratr? Lol

[@CaddyJim]

@@benholmquist1148 👍😉

[@waynegarfield6607]

Stfu about trivial bs....

[@CaddyJim]

@@waynegarfield6607 😭

[@tomstevens7452]

Japanese manufacturers have an agreement to not make them.

[@jasonkellerman7534]

With who?