MAKE WHOOPS GREAT AGAIN!

[@lukebryant5017]

Conspiracy- the whoop rule isn’t about safety it’s ab helping foreign riders in an attempt to further grow the sport internationally

[@superegghead13]

Damn thatd be some sneaky shit

[@akrabano]

that's exactly why they cut the whoop sections down

[@BenSouza-pe3wl]

Keep telling yourself that it’s definitely not a safety reason or anything 🤦‍♂️ people get wrecked in them

[@gaspasccjet103]

Look at Jett’s mistake at asx open in the whoops imagine every round maybe he doesn’t win championships as much

[@seanhaberman4619]

​@@gaspasccjet103 you realize Jett has been one of the fastest guys in the whoops since he came to supercross right? If there were real whoops this past season Jett probably wins two more races.

[@jayeddleston9486]

The whoops separate the men from the boys

[@TheTaylorJackson]

Facts. Probably not a good idea to race supercross if you’re concerned about the safety of whoops.

[@BenSouza-pe3wl]

@@jayeddleston9486 oh fuck ya I was digging at the promotors I’d love to see more blitzing than jumping

[@droz7503]

Facts 💯

[@amexican8528]

so stoked you guys are talking about this...don't let this whoop problem happen to your sport. it happened in vert skateboarding w/these resi-ramps & foam pits. all these grom's are spinning 9's & 5's & never paid dues to learn it..these kids can't even keep a pump unless there's a roll in on the ramp

[@stevesmith756]

Whoops separate the top tier riders!

[@hoodedcobra1531]

dragon backs and 13-15whoops is a must… separates the ones who been putting the work on big long whoops. 3-3-3 is very boring to watch and it doesn’t separate the riders. I wanna see more tech tracks than basic fast tracks. Last season was made dumbed down so the back of the pack could be able to do everything and be with the top ten

[@j43y]

Yes, I’m glad he said all this. They need to get back to making steeper jump faces to slow the speeds down.

[@Jared45513]

Couldn't agree more

[@treminor8456]

Tracks have got so tame lately racing just isn’t the same. Agree, 100%.😞🙏🏼

[@KOM-jh]

Who decides how these tracks should be built? Having top tier racers like Justin break down the issues and maybe more top guys express their opinions as well could make these tracks better. Skimmable whoops need to be back. I love seeing dudes passing through the whoops.

[@setyourhandle-m7i]

SO boring to watch the whoops section now

[@NJDEVILz86]

Truth!

[@MCamp]

It never was exciting.

[@parkcitymacs]

MoooWaga! Make whoops great again!! Love it! Hey, here’s a great idea. How about doing what every Racer suggests?? Get rid of ALL TUFF BLOCKS! They don’t need them in practice tracks so neither does Davie Combs or Feld! Put riders first!

[@kirkrygol517]

Why can’t the riders complain and get these features back in? Seems like they could give more pushback to get the speeds lowered by making the track more technical.

[@sikfilms225]

I 10000000% agree as a fan of the sport I think we should Al be fighting for this everyone should chime in in it

[@davidrose9955]

Well said Justin

[@DavidVowels-co5dd]

WE NEED 12-15 WHOOPS MAKE IT A PLACE TO PASS , that would be exciting!!

[@p0wn]

Masterclass in whoops. Listen to this guy.

[@ave0828]

Professional supercross whoops are absolutely HUGE. I don't even see how anyone skims across them the way the top riders do. I can only double thru them.

[@vmcmark7578]

What is the best way to keep the ruts down to a minimum?? Slower speeds == longer lap times == less laps == shallower & thus SAFER RUTS. The riders seem to not like the sand sections, I for one LOVE to see a track layout with at least one sand section & the more the better! Didn't they even have water crossings at some of the races or were those special off-road stadium events?? I'm talking in the early days of the sport.

[@3rdlineplug]

Supercross tracks have gotten so boring with cookie cutter layouts and this new whoop rule.

[@dieselhrt5492]

Finally someone that says they need dragon backs. DB’s are great.

[@tommysmithii4723]

Can we put Justin on the track crew? Before I watched the video, I had an idea for a wall jump in the middle of the whoops. A whoop section that the top 15 riders can skim through is just as lame as the 9 whoops. Vital MX has the Incredible TP199 whoop video. TP goes through them a few times and shows how technical you can be with a big set of whoops!

[@home6622]

Hell yeah, so true.....

[@Josh-py2pq]

Totally agree

[@matdogg28]

Agreed! I personally think that 11 or 13 big whoops would be perfect. There cannot be an even number of whoops. Otherwise, just put in another rhythm section. 9 whoops is pointless!

[@jarredtremain4644]

They shouldn't be called whoops if jumping like rhythms. In the real world trails whoops are everywhere. Bring them back

[@TroyPokoj]

I agree so much what you guys are saying!! I never made it to the “pro” level. (A good A rider). But I did race a lot of Staduim tracks and I feel especially at the highest level we need those huge whoop sections Back! (dragons included) and make the run ups shorter also. I remember coming out of a tight corner and having a whole straight away of whoops. Now they weren’t as Huge as they are now. But by the second motors they were a pos and it really separated the men from the Boys…. I know the jumps and obstacles are huge. But let’s be honest. These cookie cutter make even the mid pack guys look good….JMO Troy

[@mrpotatoheadracing]

Josh and Justin Hill are such fantastic riders.

[@ronoreb7813]

A championship should be of a variety of different obstacles.

[@stevied721]

When will you start uploading these to Apple podcasts?

[@barcuda1250]

Sounds like that shape hold up better Should be standard ish like the rest with maby some odd balls like datona

[@usaddict]

no more real whoops, no more dragonbacks, it's becoming arenacross it's a shame, they are scared than jett lap almost everybody with true whoops set

[@iillestrs2153]

That section wide open is wild that forkner crashed on. So gnarly

[@shanebrown2963]

Bring the whoops back. The tracks have been pretty lame last few years!

[@MCamp]

There has never been or never will be anything good about whoops. I was sitting beside Mike Jones years ago at the gate when he said it best "whoops are the single dumbest ass obstacle ever created ".

[@Natedoc808]

Justin Hill for lead track designer

[@therealbanksea]

Sections have gotten so mundane an repetitive its boring to race an watch tracks are legit a copy paste every round except for the dirt quality

[@c3h84ever]

He should design

[@zacharysmith7872]

Out of the box concept: One rock garden would change bike setup to the point that the track would be ridden quite differently, including whoops. Maybe worth a try.

[@CalBoggs]

It’s not endurocross lol

[@kylewaters8]

Absolutely the fuck not horrible idea

[@steffanmillward2283]

Supercross exists for that

[@zacharysmith7872]

@@steffanmillward2283 you mean superenduro and endurocross? Yeah. I'm saying one mild section of rocks would change suspension setups and slow down the speeds. We constantly add features and changes to different disciplines. Like I said, would interesting to try it for one round and see what the riders thought.

[@MrTimbo318]

AMA are you listening to this?

[@xafbxmoto269]

Instead of 90 degree turns I wanna see a hip replacing that turn 👏

[@derrickbosedb]

Bring back the moguls

[@venicebeachsportsnetwork6677]

Whatever happened to barcia in Nashville really scared the supercross people

[@13Skaree]

Canceled my subscription to Peacock until the outdoors I won't watch Supercross without whoops it's what a real Moto head would do

[@KINDIRBUDS]

Whoops are just as much as part of the game as the big jumps.

[@brint649649]

Wish they’d spend the cash it takes to get indoor stadiums. Nothing much sucks worse as a fan than to see all the mudders and the slow creeping around the track. Takes away all excitement

[@ScottAllenSparks]

People who think it’s the track designers who are dumbing down these tracks have ZERO clue as to what’s going on. Politics politics politics 👍🏻

[@Wesbowman5]

They have to make them easier for Jett, Lawrence, or his family will cry and throw a fit

[@seanhaberman4619]

What are you talking about? Jett is one of the fastest guys in the whoops. Go watch his 250 career. He blew through whoops.

[@doglover136_]

if there was a crazy whoop section that isn’t jumpable, jett would be even better, but also, many tom wouldn’t have won his regional title

[@seeker156]

Jett will eat them big whoops for breakfast.

[@tiquanaphilpottikkn]

They made the rule so jett wouldn't crash his brains out in his rookie year! Investment by feld

[@casper8662]

I am one who isn't going to subscribe to peacock anymore to watch.

[@gregcavanaugh6259]

What did I miss on the Forkner crash that it "saved his life"? What did they mean by that?

[@MX-CO]

He found out he needed brain surgery

[@MX-CO]

He had an annerism that would have killed him

[@vmcmark7578]

I think it was whatever they cut out of his BRAIN that the found after that crash was something that they would not have been finding if they were not there checking out ANY/ALL damage from that crash.

[@carisi2k11]

I say tighter and rounder so jumping isn't an option.

[@factorywrench2025]

I thought they only had 9 whoops because Deegan was slow in them. Now that Craig showed him all the whoop secrets they'll up the number?

[@bikesonbusiness]

9 whoops is cringe

[@APtwofiddy]

Someone remind me, what's a table over 3?

[@hhracing1022]

Jumping a tabletop, over 3 singles…

[@hhracing1022]

It kind of comes out to be a 5 singles if you took the middle out of a table top.

[@OneSon744]

I would like to order the MWGA hat. Good ideas. The hats not real?

[@barcuda1250]

Probably a good rider's rep Very different to how i though he was . I don't think he will back down and he right we looking for someone to die instead of some broken collarbones

[@c3h84ever]

He devours design a track, maybe let some top tier riders do some track designs, great segment!

[@mbscar]

I disagree. It’s the riders who are complaining about “safe tracks” or the need for cutting races out of the series for “injury prevention”. It’s nonsense, they have turned into a bunch of Karen’s. They want more money for more races. Get it, then say let’s cut races and keep the money. They want to brag about how hardcore, dangerous, and brave they are, get all the clout, money and trappings that come with that. Then turn around start talking out of the other side of their mouth and demand that the association neuters the track for safety purposes, wail they keep all the benefits given to them because it’s dangerous. It’s offensive, they can’t be allowed to have it both ways. Either make the tracks safer and cut their pay in accordance with the reduced risk and stop bragging about how tough, brave, and skilled they are. Or restore the tracks to their proper form (that is dangerous) and requires higher skill and risk if you want to compete for a top position and they maintain their status and high pay because it’s legit. They are actually doing the thing to get it. If riders design the track, they will do so for their own benefit and milk it as much as possible, not for the benefit of the sport and viewers. It’s human nature, people act in their own interest more often than not. Also I want to address the injury argument and how that can end carriers. It’s true, I don’t deny it. But the answer is- Ok, go find another job. If you don’t want to live the life of a pro racer with all its benefits. Then go work a normal job like a normal person. There is a long line of men champing at the bit to replace you who will take the risk and the races will still be good to watch even if Sexton or Jett aren’t there.

[@c3h84ever]

@@mbscar Agree to disagree, 9 whoops is weak , jumping whoops is just like any other rythem section, Marv was the first one I noticed jumping constantly.. the season is crazy long.. its not they're playing pool .. the great ones or the really good ones are fast skimming whoops.. but again we all have our own opinions.. I'm still going to watch every race I can

[@ScottAllenSparks]

It isn’t the current track designers fault for the dumbing down of tracks. It’s Feld’s

[@mbscar]

@@c3h84ever oh, I fully support making the whoops harder - proper size, shape, and more of them! I just believe it’s the riders/team owners responsible for neutering the tracks. So I don’t trust them to be the solution, because they will continue to prioritize safety.

[@zsfootpedal3986]

The whoops thing is because of Decoster. He has too much control of what goes on round by round.

[@tobyrodgers9997]

Cookie cutter tracks

[@gaspasccjet103]

You could not ride them fast

[@tobyrodgers9997]

@gaspasccjet103 smoke you any day

[@abpob6052]

Pick any track from 1989 and recreate it exactly. The tracks now are too fast, too smooth.

[@gregmulfort9577]

It's so stupid. Nobody likes the 9 whoops. Riders, teams, media, fans, everybody HATES 9 whoops! They're not even whoops, it's just another rhythm section. More people get hurt in first turns and rhythm sections than whoops. Forkner 2024, Eli 2023, Webb 2023. These are the recent injuries that changed a season when a "star" got injured. Not from whoops. Eli hurt his knee the year before by dabbing in a flat turn. Give me a freaking break. Feld is killing the sport with this whoop rule. Who is going to start a legit petition? If everyone is in favor of whoops how can they deny it? If they still do it opens the door for another series to gain traction, call it the real supercross series.

[@kendonhoward4437]

Tracks last season sucked. There's no features that separate the talent and you end up with one line races decided by starts. Last year was by far the most boring supercross racing ever. No passing. Finish where you start unless someone in front of you wrecks. 👎

[@joshdavis7321]

Not only is he right. It’s not entertaining to watch. I haven’t missed at race for the last 10+ years. Until last year. I don’t care to watch endurocross.

[@jeffrohn4248]

Gypsy be looking like Jesus… jus sayin!!! 😂

[@bertamusprime618]

He is the Pope of the Church of 350.

[@davidallen2682]

Too much money at the top of everything right now. Sports only have an eye for money and no love of the game. Doesn’t matter what sport it is.

[@panzerfaust7476]

I love watching when there is a good set of whoops. BUT, supercross is a business. I’m excited for A1. But if Jett, then tomac, then sexton get taken out by round 8 because of big whoops, then I’m going to be less inclined to watch supercross. I might fast forward a lot more. They need to make it 10 or more, not on every track, and pack them in really good.