H3H3 vs Fresh & Fit Debate Was An Absolute Trainwreck

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@adventureflyz 10 ай бұрын

No matter how prepared Ethan would’ve came, nothing he would say would change the average FnF viewers minds. That side of the internet hates Ethan and would never take his word for anything. I think this did a good job of showing how these people would deflect from a easy “debate”

@justinoliveira3063 10 ай бұрын

I agree, but I don’t think that’s the point of the debate. I liked what Destiny said on a podcast recently about changing people’s minds. It’s not really about converting someone from one extreme to the other, it’s about pulling in all the moderates who are unsure where to side with. It’s very difficult to have someone change their entire belief system after one debate, but it’s just about planting the seed. Those people have to want to have their beliefs challenged. Usually that comes with time, as it did with me. I used to be hardcore redpilled until I actually started listening to these types of conversations over the course of a year. Also mentally maturing helped as well.

@adventureflyz 10 ай бұрын

@@justinoliveira3063 I think maturing has a bigger part in changing rather hearing a debate. I used to consider myself a conservative but I got older and decided to listen to different views and now I consider myself more of leftist. But again, Ethan is seen as a dummy in most communities so people would be ignorant to anything he says so a serious debate would probably end up the same results.

@user-jm9gj9ph6e 10 ай бұрын

Ethan had already came with a bunch of presuppositions and was proven wrong each time that’s why they had Ethan answer first cause he was consistently wrong

@TheRightShark 10 ай бұрын

Papa gut had some fair criticisms of H3 but by no means did Fnf come off better, anyone watching that saw that ethan pushed them to admit they give alcohol to 18 year olds and brought out that they dont drink which is something papa wanted H3 to bring up, just that alone almost completely wipes the weird SA thing ethan was pushing which still came off pretty well because he got myron to admit to being a socially inept moron with the shirt thing

@frostnova2144 10 ай бұрын

The fact that Papa thinks Aidan Ross is smart enough to orchestrate something like this on purpose I genuinely have no words 😂

@skinsey85 10 ай бұрын

Frfr 😂 That he'd think Aidan did it on purpose instead of just being the typical dumbass that he is, is wild. I'm pretty sure if he was actually trying to get Tate in trouble, he wouldn't have shared it publicly to not only make himself look like an idiot but also make him look like he betrayed him. He would've just called the Romanian police, no?

@fibbintiggins2858 10 ай бұрын

There were some wild takes in this one, papa gut is lost in the sauce 😂

@apokolipsmeow5481 10 ай бұрын

Papa always has the worst read on Ethan. He doesn't need to watch an 8 hour neonazi doc, he's simply asking them if the description of the film is accurate. They refuse to answer. That's the significant piece in and of itself.

@Cdubbies 10 ай бұрын

Papa literally said that ethan didn’t have to watch it lol tf?

@thecollector6746 10 ай бұрын

FnF is and always have been trash, but Ethan isn't much better given his incessant anti-Palestinian racism and apologia for a criminal, murderous, White Colonial Settler Project and the shit that criminal, murderous White Colonial Settler Project does.

@troyknights3342 10 ай бұрын

@@CdubbiesHe criticized his point, the point made perfect sense.

@tinymouse2876 10 ай бұрын

The thing is although we may understand it. Ppl in fresh and fits audience may not understand Ethan’s point. No offense but I don’t think most of those men are super intelligent, mostly because most of them are young af

@OS34425 10 ай бұрын

As someone who also watched the full F&F response stream, I don't believe you when you say you watched the full 5+ hour response stream. Some of their "proof" that she was interested was HER friend messaging Fresh. Or her messaging Fit to ask about the dating in public show they were supposed to film. That stream was stupid and deranged, and I specifically put myself through it because of the narrative from you, Destiny, Aba and the wider commentary community. At the time, it honestly just reeked of desperation to find another false accuser from the commentary community. I recommend you watch the original H3 stream and the F&F response again before speaking assertively on this topic.

@troyknights3342 10 ай бұрын

I don’t get how you come away thinking Ethan was losing these arguments. Fresh and fit were clearly deflecting

@malikrich94 10 ай бұрын

This whole debate as a whole was bad on both sides but Ethan really tanked when he bought up the SA allegations. I wouldn't say that stuff about my worst enemy lol Ethan is casually throwing those allegations around

@superkoopatrooper4879 10 ай бұрын

Nah Ethan did a poor job. Thats ok,. it's not the end of the world. You cant win em all and he'll get better for it.

@AndrewDLuffy 10 ай бұрын

Both of them were losers lol he doesn’t need to call out fresh and fit he already knows they are shit

@LudwigHorsecock 10 ай бұрын

near the end he repeatedly ignored questions

@troyknights3342 10 ай бұрын

@@superkoopatrooper4879fresh asked the difference between interviewing a person who became a scammer later and laughing with a person who admitted to rape in front of them. No offense but if you fall for fresh and fits extremely obvious deflection tactics your not smart. Sorry.

@RafaMieses 10 ай бұрын

if myron worked saving kids... thank god he is not in law enforcement anymore. Myron probably: its the kids fault for getting in the van before seeing the candy

@MrSemanticprison 10 ай бұрын

Papa L ethan did i good job and i hate him. Aside from the Myron assault stuff, thats a bit soy. But papa quibbled with every single sentence on every issue

@cephas5053 10 ай бұрын

Ethan did not do a good job

@kenzistar1569 10 ай бұрын

I think he just wanted to troll them

@zackmorris4773 10 ай бұрын

He at least could’ve been funny, L3

@rambi1072 10 ай бұрын

@@zackmorris4773Seeing the comments from Dumb n Dumber fans coping is very entertaining

@zackmorris4773 10 ай бұрын

@@rambi1072 I fan, no man, both suck equally, it’s just dumber and dumberer how you think I can’t neutrality see this was a complete 💩 show on both sides, sounded like a middle school lunch table, both needs to delete this, equally

@angelmaldonado5657 10 ай бұрын

@@rambi1072he’s not wrong tho in no sense did I hear sarcasm in h3 h3 voice, you can tell he wanted to debate them on the points and win stop the cope of oh he’s just having fun like no mf he clearly wants to beat them in a debate. And no I’m not a FNF fan there’s scum bags

@TheRightShark 10 ай бұрын

Fnf literally behave like 4th graders who just discovered the concept of racism and play coy about what they're saying but they know exactly what they are putting out there and then sit there like a shy japanese school girl when ethan starts asking what they mean by "neo nazi documentary is the most based film of all time omgggg" they go full UwU whatever you think ethan teehee mode

@skinsey85 10 ай бұрын

It seems that Papa doesn't understand that Ethan isn't having people like FnF, Pearl or Mike Lindell on to have a productive conversation lol I don't watch them and only see H3 content through Papa but I thought it was understood that he brings them on to dunk on them and let them make themselves look like fools. He wouldn't have Aba and Preach on because they're not lol cows who could be dumpstered. When did people start thinking Ethan is trying to be serious about it when he has the dumbest of the dumbasses on? It all started with Crowder and people think he's trying to have an actual conversation? He's not Destiny. It's the whole reason he wouldn't talk to FnF years ago because he knew it wouldn't be productive but now that he's got this consistent series of dumpstering on people, it was too his benefit. This is meant to just make them look like tools and it worked, like the others he's had on.

@arin999 10 ай бұрын

almost every person ethan has debated has said to him versions of “i thought you were going to take this seriously” and every time ethan says “i don’t know why you thought that” lol

@Dulcetrishxo 10 ай бұрын

When will the day that papa gut finally realizes the H3 podcast is meant for entertainment and not deep, nuanced commentary come? 😂

@Ro6ns 10 ай бұрын

Then why even have this conversation, leave the degenerates in they’re bubble not stoop down to their level.

@neliataylor8601 10 ай бұрын

i love h3. i hate a lot of papas takes on ethan but if ur going to have these guys on you kinda do need to know the deep nuanced stuff, anyone with a brain would realize fresh and fit lost this, but the way ethan acted definitely makes him look a fool to fresh and fit audience. so why even have the conversation, it was entertaining for me but idk he could’ve done more research into everything

@neliataylor8601 10 ай бұрын

i guess now that i think about it more lol, there wasn’t much he could’ve done anyways with what he was given here

@OS34425 10 ай бұрын

@@neliataylor8601 Yeah, it's very clear that he started off wanting to have a discussion. But once he realized they were dodging all questions, he started memeing.

@Saskfinest1 10 ай бұрын

@@OS34425dodging? Myron was putting responsibility on the one that made the claim. Why do H3 fans demand work be done for them? The burden of proof is on the one making the claim, Ethan failed to meet the burden on multiple topics.

@rhinestoned_lunatic 10 ай бұрын

It's clear Ethan never intended this to be a true debate, but just intended to drag them through the mud for a couple hours. I thought it was very entertaining, and they looked very bad and stupid. He didn't need to have an in-depth, Destiny style debate about red pill ideology, he just showcased how they deflect and squirm back to their dialogue tree even when confronted with layups (how many died, would you support tate if he was proven to be a trafficker, etc). Ethan knew just how to lead them from point to point, and they didn't have the upper hand on any single point (which is why they felt the need to repeat 1000x that they debunked his arguments, despite having said nothing substantial)

@bwest5150 10 ай бұрын

They have debunked the fact the SA accusation, Myron also stumped Ethan on the the antisemitism remarks, also did not attack Ethan’s character the whole time. And much more, when it comes to debate Ethan did no research at all and took a historical loss.

@rhinestoned_lunatic 10 ай бұрын

@@bwest5150 if you think FnF left that antisemitism discussion looking good, I hope you don't vote

@bwest5150 10 ай бұрын

@@rhinestoned_lunatic Are you assuming I live in the country where you live? Also H3 made a blanket statement for antisemitism, and Myron combated the race bate by explaining how he was wrong in his accusation. H3 was assuming Myron was racist and failed miserably.

@rhinestoned_lunatic 10 ай бұрын

@@bwest5150 I hope for your country :(

@bwest5150 10 ай бұрын

@@rhinestoned_lunatic There you go! Good argument, If I were you I wouldn’t try either and end up getting dragged all over the comment section. You are just like Ethan, you assume a bunch of stuff and just make nonsensical arguments, and look unintelligent just like him. Have a good one idiot.

@The_rusty_corner. 10 ай бұрын

I hate when people denied 6 million died, my grandfather was a medic in the army during ww2 and was with the 1st unit to enter breendonk concentration camp, he seen the bodies and took photos and took the keys to the front gate to the camp. Something he hardly talked about after the war, we donated his photos and the keys to the holocaust museum in Los Angeles.

@Deandean672 10 ай бұрын

There not denying it there just saying the numbers were all over the place, plus Ethan says in this interview it’s literally impossible to know how many died but at the same time continues to ask F&F how many died lol

@kjwonder6411 7 ай бұрын

@@Deandean672i legitimately wanna know how old you are?

@nikirrae8495 10 ай бұрын

As much as I didn’t think Ethan killed this debate.. what was he supposed to do? 😂😅 he had to work with what he was given lol. That shit was so boring it took me over a day to finish it.

@AlexDefiant 10 ай бұрын

I honestly feel you. There wasn’t much he was gonna do to actually convince these guys or their audience.

@angelmaldonado5657 10 ай бұрын

Then why bring it up if he has limited information? That’s dumb af 😂 stop the cope these two douchebags beat him in that debate

@Saskfinest1 10 ай бұрын

Maybe an ounce of research? The dude came in with zero preparedness.

@user-jm9gj9ph6e 10 ай бұрын

Give evidence for his claims? What do you mean? When you make a claim you better have something to back it up with Ethan failed to do multiples times.

@bonitabarbie 10 ай бұрын

That’s sweet! My husband asked “Can I kiss you?” At the end of our 1st date & again at the end of the 2nd date he asked for a kiss. It’s sweet & if the vibes are strong between 2 people it won’t be weird or cringy. Myron’s “make out” catastrophe sounds like a 13 yr old that was trying super hard to get some. Laughing at a woman’s breasts & mocking them is not 2 people vibing on the same page. Strange encounter at the least.

@itsjayswelly 10 ай бұрын

Ethan kinda cooked these guys outside the SA stuff

@CatotheE 10 ай бұрын

He didn’t.

@nikirrae8495 10 ай бұрын

I don’t know if he did all that lol. But at the end of the day, you can’t debate someone who dances around every question. So what did we even expect.

@JS-kr7zy 10 ай бұрын

I mean if you can get someone to defend Nick Fuentes and Europa then you are pretty much dunking them from half court. Idk if Ethan did much but this guys definitely buried themselves.

@CatotheE 10 ай бұрын

@@JS-kr7zy Why? Maybe a few years ago, but this whole Israel discourse made it clear that a lot of people support ethnonationalism. What makes Fuentes more extreme than a Zionist? They both just want to maintain Ethnic supermajorities.

@whippinsaw 10 ай бұрын

Uh-oh guys. Genuine fuentes fan in the thread. Bro they asked how many died in ww2 and they couldnt answer. Imma go out on a limb and say racism? Not cool dude.

@jordanpitts9339 10 ай бұрын

There is no such thing as ‘body consent’

@jayarr961 10 ай бұрын

FnF seemed pretty defensive. I think they were afraid to answer questions because their choice was to be truthful and look really bad or lie and risk pissing off their own audience.

@frankbarrie6785 10 ай бұрын

Plz stop pausing every 2 seconds.. they say whatever u think they're gonna say right afterwards any ways..

@hanzo9947 10 ай бұрын

That's what papagut does though 😂

@devonwilliams7640 10 ай бұрын

Had to go watch the actual video on this one very weird papa Ethan thing in this one

@itskokosworld 10 ай бұрын

Ethan was not going to waste energy besides trolling them loool I was laughing the entire time.. great show

@KaneM45 10 ай бұрын

“Hes shaking Ethans shaking”🤣 Ethan was not prepared for that to be brought up, so suddenly and early.

@johadgan 10 ай бұрын

Why is he so unnecessarily harsh on Ethan at every turn lol

@tinymouse2876 10 ай бұрын

The reason why Ethan’s business is so successful is because he treats his employees so well. He wouldn’t be where he is without them. He def doesn’t bend to their will too much. I may not agree with Ethan on everything. But how fairly he treats his very hardworking employees is extremely commendable. And that’s why they stick around and all have a great working relationship or personal. And just imagine if the whole world could work that way and how much happier we would all be if we were treated a little more as equals and with more respect. Everyone knows a good boss will make or break your job and happiness with work.

@BuddhaBrye 10 ай бұрын

For everyone saying what Ethan should’ve done he should’ve come better prepared with his info as well as having better points to catch them on. Honestly feel like if it was papa debating them he would have been better prepared and pushed them more.

@ladyvanda 10 ай бұрын

Someone hasn’t watch papa gut debate before lol

@BuddhaBrye 10 ай бұрын

@@ladyvanda in all of his debates papa has come out on top and pushed his points. So what debates are you talking about

@AlexDefiant 10 ай бұрын

This conversation was a little bit shmingle whirl in my opinion

@Dinorantsandraves 10 ай бұрын

I think Aiden did it on purpose but because he's a dummy. Guarantee you he thought oh ima let chat know I can get the last interview of tate before he flees the country. Nothing but clout brain and 0 thought after that.

@starlord157 10 ай бұрын

Some times Papagut has some great takes, but his commentary on this video was pretty bad. L

@Smoke.stardust 10 ай бұрын

youre older than papagut and unironically saying "L" like a middleschooler

@jaydayoungin8617 10 ай бұрын

@@Smoke.stardustoh my god bro who cares man. Get a grip.

@starlord157 10 ай бұрын

@@Smoke.stardustholy f, you remember that? That’s true. I cringed so hard listening to papa guy try to explain that police lawyers are present before any arrest is made , I had to take a break from watching this.

@gabrielverduzco6065 10 ай бұрын

Papa be watching waaay too much destiny

@ryancopeland1582 10 ай бұрын

I’d agree except for the sexual assault stuff. Ethan is reaching hard with that take despite neither party involved saying it was SA, and NOTHING in the story actually hints that it was.

@Ash-kf1zc 9 ай бұрын

thank you for talking about this stuff Papagut, I think it's important for men to do things like this

@adventureflyz 10 ай бұрын

Also that’s why dudes have a hard time getting a date on dating sites cause y’all think that kind of bio looks good 😭 at most I would take my time to look at the profile but the bio would throw me off. More pictures and having a bio helps a lot when choosing but women I know laugh at those kind of bios.

@suigeneris2663 9 ай бұрын

What’s going on here is this: both Ethan and that weirdo ex-fed know something about the law. Ethan’s calling out the weirdo’s authority, which, whether he knows it or not, feds HATE. So do police officers. Police officers may testify in trial as either fact or expert witnesses, but I’ve so far never seen a jxdn where a cop files the charge (altho I’ve been told they exist). MOST of the time police officers will testify as fact witnesses, meaning they merely serve as the eyes/ears of the law, write shit down, and send it off with a recommendation. Sometimes a prosecutor will follow that recommendation, but usually they don’t really pay attention to it because officers/agents are not attorneys. Case in point: prosecutors ALWAYS indict when they’re NOT ready for trial, lol. That’s the point of an indictment. With the looks of it, the weirdo’s sit through a couple trials. Pretty normal. Here’s the issue with that. The weirdo dug up a bunch of character shit on Coconuts’s pregnant ex. Why? The weirdo’s trying to taint any prospective jury pools with evidence that wouldn’t otherwise be admissible in court. These are called extrajudicial statements. What he doesn’t know is that lawyers know how to deal with those shenanigans, even if the weirdo’s not party to any pending suit (he is still acting as weirdo #2’s agent). Bottom line, the weirdos are fucked. Sounds like the ex has a great case and if that DNA comes back positive, any paternity questions will be disposed of with an order for monthly child support; it’s just that simple.

@twinkle507 9 ай бұрын

L papa gut funny is the one that is fat talking about who is a real man. LMAO

@mtvpartyboy007 10 ай бұрын

I dont care about both H3 or Fresh and Fit. Let's be honest thiugh Fresh and Fit got cooked.

@cephas5053 10 ай бұрын

No you’re not being honest. You’re being stupid and Biased

@brokapotato5066 10 ай бұрын

I've only found you when you cover the vasuh stuff but now you're one of my favorite youtubers. I've been watching every video

@suigeneris2663 9 ай бұрын

47:03 Negative. The system makes an effort, but its first priority is punishment.

@thelightwielder 3 ай бұрын

29:58 I disagree. He knows what he's doing AND he's stupid.

@thelightwielder 3 ай бұрын

I think Ethan is frequently lazy in these and him dunking on someone is almost luck because he happens to be on the right side. He's not actually good at arguing the point

@Youremom3535 10 ай бұрын

I never watch the stream I wait for papa then i watch lol.

@offsetproductions5830 4 ай бұрын

Ik a girl from my highschool who doesn’t do onlyfans who was on fresh and fit twice 😳

@annajenkins3733 4 ай бұрын

I’ll say this you will never look good having a convo with fresh and fit unless you are just straight up trolling them. At some times papa ur like Ethan should have thought about that more because their audience is going to tear him up. I think the point of fresh and fit and their fans should not even be thought of “winning over” it’s impossible because their entire belief system is constructed from made up delusions lmaooo Ethan can say ANYTHING and their fans will misconstrue anyway

@RK_7000 Ай бұрын

The comments here are not it for damn sure

@ricky_motor 10 ай бұрын

As a former h3 fan and a never fan of FNF i gotta say H3 took a major L. FNF "debate" shouldve been an easy slam dunk but Ethan continues to show his ignorance and lack of preparation. L3.

@Raziaar 10 ай бұрын

Pull his audience? People ain't pogs, man.

@dmodernharmonyart2312 10 ай бұрын

Lmao loving the Papa play by Play at the beginning 😂😂

@rasvapurkki6294 10 ай бұрын

maybe you need to log off for a while.. maybe take a analog vacation with your wife or smth

@ITSJFE 10 ай бұрын

Smh... F&F full content is always on Rumble. YT is too PC. That's why they Remove/ private the videos. None of them are blocked on rumble

@Westlander857 10 ай бұрын

The inescapable cruelty of the universe:☹️ Gut saying “alright guys:” 😃

@cuyxjrplays 10 ай бұрын

Ethan was going to win these guys anyways these dudes got the dumbest audience ever

@YahBoiDev 10 ай бұрын

Papa Gut time

@jorgeyportly 10 ай бұрын

Isn't it wild that Ethan would talk to Fresh and Fit, but he wouldn't talk to Aba and Preach? The enemy of my enemy becomes my friend lmao. They both hate Aba and Preach so maybe Ethan loved the racist tyrade Myron did about Preach on his podcast. LOVE how Olivia doesn't object to Ethan talking to an actual rape apologist (Myron) but will when it comes to Aba and Preach.

@erraticrasmus 10 ай бұрын

why has ethan got shit on his arm

@clanaz9368 10 ай бұрын

tattoo

@fibbintiggins2858 10 ай бұрын

Why do you have shit on your ass

@maxthompson6014 10 ай бұрын

Chuck a doodle dude😂😅

@frankbarrie6785 10 ай бұрын

Ethan had this like annoying attitude the whole time..and seemed unprepared compared to some of his more recent debates/convos.. I couldn't stand any of them during this lol.. they were all bein so childish.. no one seemed to fully understand what they were talkin bout and kept throwing out talkin points..