Couples Therapy With Dr. Drew - Frenemies #7

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[@ashleybates1495]

I think Ethan was the best thing that happen to Trisha. She needed someone that wouldn’t be afraid to call her on her shit but also emphasized and acknowledge why she acts the way she does. You can honestly see how much concern for her he shows as soon as she started to cry. Am really starting to love this friendship

[@EmmaAus]

I was going to contest that & say that Moses was actually probably the best thing to have come into her life... But then I realised that she wouldn't of met him if it wasn't for Ethan, so it just further proves your point :-p

[@sharondianneb]

Agreed. But I would add that I think Trish came into his life to teach him as well.

[@wngdhssr]

@@sharondianneb teach him how to deal with idiots.

[@Madkalibyr]

Totally agree! I think this is so good for her and I want Trisha to feel loved

[@brendansdelaney]

@@EmmaAus also the fact that Moses apparently rejects therapy is...disheartening

[@no3ll388]

Dr. Drew needs to be a guest every 5 episodes so we can keep this podcast going! Trisha actually explained her issue so much better in this episode and why she was upset. She still needs a lot of therapy but I understand her feelings more. They both have an issue with saying “I wasn’t upset” or “I’m totally fine” when they really aren’t.

[@augustzoldyck2309]

You're absolutely right 🤣

[@DigitalDevil]

I was literally thinking of this too lol

[@pinkpugginz]

Plus its good for Ethan to get called out cause of his fucking God complex

[@writerchick94]

Yes definitely

[@yesicamiranda9118]

Make this top comment! It would benefit both greatly!!

[@jessicaouellette884]

Imagine showing this podcast to a Victorian child

[@kennedyvince9272]

LMAO

[@emilywestheimer7409]

It might be rough for a Victorian child but throughout history, men have worn tons of makeup, dresses, wigs, etc.

[@carmendeanda7249]

@@emilywestheimer7409it’s not even about the dressing up

[@lindseyitamoto]

This comment is oddly specific

[@farahaljubeir]

😂😂😂😂

[@kikidoyle4105]

The fact that Ethan was constantly trying to explain himself and the therapist just kept interrupting him made me sooo upset

[@whitestguyuknow]

Clarification, this dude is not licensed. He only works with celebrities in order to gain clout and reap in the money. Real professionals have a lot of issues with the man and I'd rather trust the genuine therapists if they say he's harmful then I'll go with that first.

[@adh3247]

ikr he was sucking up to trisha

[@camirish2315]

“Dr” drew is far from a therapist. He makes me sooooo angry 😭

[@belfonsecaa1801]

@@whitestguyuknow omg that is soo not good that he is not licensed

[@wvcee]

@@whitestguyuknow yeah my mom said in the therapist world he’s really frowned upon

[@caitlingotswagg]

Why has no one mentioned how Ethan looks exactly like the bar woman in shrek

[@lindseyariegel7703]

omg yes.

[@janeerobinson1878]

Doris 💀

[@ohsog4165]

I’m dead

[@eldaguadiana6927]

Thanks for the laugh!! 😂

[@anthonyajlouni]

Hahahahhahahaha I’m weak

[@VultureVlogger]

Putting themselves in each others shoes while being dressed as each other is truly iconic and symbolic

[@notokay4785]

yEsss

[@KobeChristiansen]

My heart🥺

[@nahilhamam]

So was doing surprisingly well at trivia while dressed as Elle Woods. Costumes have been on point.

[@mormor1664]

!!!!!!

[@nicolasurban5571]

This says a lot about society

[@erin2192]

I feel like Dr. Drew was so dismissive of Ethan's feelings in this video. It's like he wouldn't allow Ethan to express his feelings to say how Trisha hurt him but rather would just cut him off mid-sentence and make an excuse for Trisha's actions. Meanwhile, Trisha got 5 minutes uninterrupted each time to flip Ethan's pov of the issue with full support from Dr. Drew. Just sucked not being able to hear Ethan's side of the story

[@CrityCrit]

Well yeah because she’s the one who needs help. It’s a tactic so she feels comfortable talking to him. Really common especially with Therapists.

[@DeeAnn97]

Trisha was allowed to act a fool towards Ethan but if he does ANYTHING... lord

[@CrityCrit]

@@DeeAnn97 yeah I know exactly she’s crazy that’s why Dr.Drew is treating her like taped together glass she’s about to break any second 24/7. Ethan never truly understood it but they needed to keep the show interesting so I understand that’s a hard rope to walk. Also he has a big ego Ethan that’s why he couldn’t take Dr.Drews jokes cause just like Trisha thought she was getting picked on he was doing it to him, there’s a podcast where Dr. Drew discusses the whole thing it’s really interesting because he got it down to a T the first 15 minutes of the podcast. I saw everybody saying how he’s ignoring Ethan‘s feelings it’s so wrong and they don’t understand he’s trying to understand Trisha while listening to what the problem is which is Ethan is bullying her but in reality Ethan is just joking, they both are two people with major egos who can’t handle massive criticism.

[@breeannaedwards801]

@@CrityCrit he isn’t a licensed therapist and that practice is stupid. If you’re seeing two people in a paired therapy and you dismiss one you need your license revoked.

[@CrityCrit]

@@breeannaedwards801 What do you think Addiction therapy is? He’s extremely qualified more than any normal therapist you would see through regular insurance. He knows what he’s doing and when you see a therapist worth there salt they cut through the bullshit unless you painfully sensitive which is what he’s know for. I do not like Trisha but she’s so fragile and clearly also an addict, Ethan is a stable person not saying he has no issues but he can handle it have you seen one episode of the show lmaooo. Drew knows what he’s doing and people seem to forget it worked it took 6 episodes for a crash and Ethan followed his advice and it worked for almost 30 episodes. Like Drew said there needs to be clear boundaries and it’s what destroyed the show and money.

[@Annjayy702]

Who’s here 2024 😢

[@bestestusernam.]

I never knew Ethan before Trisha and I only know Trisha from nikacado😂 I'm trash brain

[@divinasi0n]

The symbolism of the pair taking on one another's identities as they empathise with each other this episode is powerful.

[@falllee1887]

Well said

[@divinasi0n]

I would be interested to know if it was subliminal coincidence or intentional.

[@saucyjitty3244]

You sound like my English teacher

[@luluc2204]

It's so true!

[@katgrose7735]

Literally stole the words out of my mouth - well said

[@JennRighter]

When Trisha starts crying and Ethan is looking at her, even through the costume you can see how it hits him. Honestly, seeing Ethan with Trisha changes everything about how I ever perceived him.

[@Bansheeea]

Completely agree. I used to dislike Ethan but I’m really happy I was put my ego aside and took the L. I’ve learned about myself from this series and I think a lot of other commenters have too. I hope they ignore the hate comments, especially on IG/Twitter. They just *hate* on Trisha hard, but I understand why. I’m bias to her, I have high functioning BPD myself so I know exactly what she’s talking about when she starts crying. I know she feels terrible, her entire identity is shattered by the idea she’s an “abuser” because she herself has been heavily abused. I think if she comes to term with the fact that, “yes, I have been abusive, it’s inexcusable and I want to change my behaviour and help repair the things I’ve damaged.” That’s how I’ve been healing myself and healed my relationships/friendships. She deserves a redemption arc, but she has to be willing to do the work.

[@janelle9652]

It changed the way I perceived both of them tbh

[@EmoRiverGirl]

@@janelle9652 same, its really changing how i view them... this podcast was a really good idea, i am happy they did it and followed through with these issues.

[@psychobratt]

@@chashmal10 Please shut up.

[@zeebee6370]

Ethan reminds me of Michael Scott. He seems like a douche but in reality he’s got a big heart. He just has a different way of expressing himself. But I love it in a way, he’s hilarious.

[@rockysow6274]

dr. drew BLEW my shit what type of therapist is he. he legit sided with trisha on absolutely everything when she was in the wrong as well.

[@honeymoon6039]

this + he also interrupted Ethan every time he tried to make a point.

[@lilbigplanet4170]

Professional Dr gives his professional insight, but honestly all these youtube commenters probably know more than him. ya. that sounds right.

[@audreymorgan2305]

@@lilbigplanet4170 he's not a professional therapist

[@lilbigplanet4170]

@@audreymorgan2305 his degree and certifications are at the bottom of that website

[@audreymorgan2305]

@@lilbigplanet4170 yes he works w meds and addiction. Not therapy

[@dantewhirlpool2227]

“Should I worry about my brother in law who has been assaulted by his partner?” “Uh it’s not really your business” stfu dr drew

[@feebsz384]

THANK YOU. They have every right to be worried about Moses.

[@jennifermeissner6063]

Isn’t Moses a full grown person? A relationship is between two people. If he is concerned he should talk to Moses and not to Trish

[@briyarose5815]

@@jennifermeissner6063 you wouldn’t be saying the same if it was a man who hit his girlfriend

[@Alexandra_Wolf]

No real doctor would say this. If someone is a danger to themselves or others you have to seek outside help. Does Trisha have something on dr drew!?????

[@feebsz384]

@@Alexandra_Wolf something weird must be going on because it was so bizarre that Dr Drew dismissed that so quickly. He would of been 1000% cancelled if it was a male that left a bruise that size on his girlfriend and we all know it.

[@faithlynnnieto8188]

This episode alone was way better than the Shane Dawson documentaries. No pushed narrative, just raw emotion

[@StinFriggins]

Way more authentic!

[@jessicalauren3845]

Great observation!!! Totally agree.

[@SilverMoon459]

I agree

[@Trillthrilla]

FACTS FR

[@TheWatergodlove]

right!?

[@JW-be6sf]

trisha crying while dressed as a man and ethan speechless dressed as the woman from shrek is not something u see everyday lol

[@traumaqueen8820]

he's.....he's dressed as trisha not the woman from shrek lmfaooo

[@supernaut7946]

Yeah I was getting a little emotional when Trisha was opening up and I had to laugh in the middle of it cause of how ridiculous the costumes were lol

[@melissapadilla5120]

omf this is so funnnnny omggggggg

[@shell9403]

I SCREAMED, THAT WOMAN FROM SHREK, YES

[@dropppitlikeitshott]

The woman from Shrek 😂

[@Liz-nq9rc]

Its crazy that there is such a double standard with domestic abuse. I cannot see people being okay with accepting a man's excuse for hitting his gf as him 'dissociating' and it being 'just a one time thing.'

[@christinaaa_xo]

Right?! And the fact that Dr. Drew just simply skipped over it and went after Ethan for exposing it. This was ridiculous to watch. If Ethan had abused Hila or Moses Trisha, Dr. Drew wouldn't have glazed over it

[@danie9596]

Agreed!!!! This is alarming. I can’t stand Dr. Drew

[@longpigpie3584]

I get that. But that does happen though. Speaking from experience. I’ve been in a relationship with someone with ptsd and there is a distinct difference between someone’s mental health and straight up domestic violence. And there is also a big issue mainly in low income households and stuff where there partner may be one of the few people in there support network. And if they get seen with as much as a bruise they’re not aloud to be around them for a set period of time. But now there’s this poor girl with ptsd scared of all the noises outside and now she’s lost one of her only supporters. Idk I know my opinion is very bias and dumb. But that’s my experience anyway

[@andri4lolacs]

That's exactly what I thought! She thinks that because it has been kept a secret all this time, hitting her boyfriend is correct

[@thatfishguy4991]

And yet everyone in the H3 audience was accepting it up until trisha quit the show.

[@kaylachappell154]

“Everyone thinks I’m a man beater because of you”-Trisha. No everyone thinks this because you hit you partner 🙄

[@feebsz384]

THIS

[@moonchild8422]

👏👏👏

[@christinaaa_xo]

The way she spun it to Dr. Drew is so beyond fucked up.

[@briannavann1]

THIS 👏👏👏👏👏👏

[@rainbowfox1314]

Ethan brought up the hitting and ngl it sounded like a one time (possible) accident (I’ve also been passively listening so I may have missed something) - but SHES the one who said she left BRUISES - PLURAL.

[@user-tl3sl2tu7e]

Trisha looked visibly relieved when Dr Drew was able to explain what is happening inside her head

[@jjjguliiich]

how wonderful to be understood, really

[@r.i.petika829]

@@jjjguliiich It's sad but some people live their entire lives without that.

[@peachyaf]

I thought the same shit

[@sarahtheegemini]

Therapy helps us communicate 🙌🏻✌🏻

[@addoul99]

Time stamp?

[@SuddenlyPaulP]

Trisha having a vulnerable and authentic moment and Ethan being understanding and coming to terms with how he's contributed to all this is genuinely heartwarming to watch. Watching them do this while dressed like THAT is absolutely batshit bonkers and destroying my brain

[@PeaceGurl330]

i hope the costumes never stop

[@jessicapranger4704]

Hahaha no shit

[@miascott8945]

Dr. Drew clearly had a bias here. He barely even let Ethan speak, and when he did, Dr. Drew pretty much either shot it down or interrupted him. I get that Trisha obviously has way more issues to work with, but still. It's a mediation, not Trisha's personal therapy session!

[@JennSarracenia]

I think that men usually get babied and women get demonized. Dr drew ensured he wasn’t doing that, and the perception is that Ethan and Trish weren’t being treated equally

[@hollytree3379]

I'm an Ethan fan, but I think Dr. Drew did a pretty good job here. He had a very human approach. Like he didn't focus too much on jokes, even saying "I'm with Ethan here, it is a funny joke," and got Trisha back to focus several times.

[@adh3247]

I totally agree. I’m glad someone noticed this too instead of praising him

[@beegyoshi4218]

He's not a therapist moron

[@blockmonster2812]

I think his bias is more him attempting to have Ethan understand that trisha has serious mental illness that he needs to be mindful of. I think trishas mental illness was the root of the issue, and it was kinds prefaced with "trisha has this issue and we need to solve it"

[@hogkan]

Trish: I love pegging Dr Drew: Ethan, you okay? Ethan: It's a lot to take in...while she's dressed like me

[@gloopgalore]

Ethan looks like Ariana Grande in a different universe

[@yoon7253]

@Harkeen15 AAAAH OMFG YES

[@shorkelili]

Ariana if she went on drugs after victorious

[@bellamescudi6901]

@Harkeen15 jababahahaha dead

[@hypnotoad28]

@@shorkelili lmao but if she was on drugs she'd be even skinnier

[@bigballz5503]

Ariana wrongay

[@laurrlong]

As someone with Borderline Personality Disorder this ep. was very cathartic for me. I very much identify with a lot of trisha's emotions and I totally understand why ethan sees her behaviors as attacks, but I think Dr. Drew did a really good job explaining the uncontrollable nature of BPD symptoms and how hard it is to see boundaries from trisha's perspective. Good job Doc! And to Trisha- Thank you for being so open about your mental health issues and the struggles they permit. You have really helped me feel like I'm not alone in my own path to symptom remission. It's easy to not show everything on the internet, but your openness reminds me that i'm not crazy, my suffering is valid, and even though this is a serious mental health issue, I'm not the only one. You have no idea how much positivity you bring to my life. Love you both

[@HiddenLeafNinja97]

Same! I feel less alone tbh. I really resonated a lot with her in this episode and her past actions tbh.

[@ashleysartattack5600]

Yes to all of this! I also have BPD and I always understand exactly how Trisha is feeling and behaving. And it was so nice to see Drew not treat her the same way a lot of her viewers do. To just be like, oh she’s crazy and attention seeking. No, she’s a real person with real struggles. And her brain functions a little differently than others. Especially during arguments. Coupled with boundary issues or lack there of.

[@wytpny557]

Trisha is so misunderstood she's been through a lot even though she's problematic I still respect her

[@general._.kenobi7919]

I kind of feel like dr drew was on trisha’s side the whole time. Am I wrong

[@MoonZenn]

Ethan is so cute trying to make her laugh after she was doing her forced crying smh

[@heyymeghan]

Dr drew has admitted that he tends to coddle and side with the most mentally unstable person.

[@outaugust]

You are not wrong at all Dr. Drew isn't a licensed therapist he's a psychiatrist and completely is the inappropriate option for these kinds of conversations

[@usernotfound1022]

It’s super inappropriate. He’s only hurting her and the people around her by giving her this eternal pass for her toxic behavior. he’s a hack.

[@lukewarmape603]

100% Trisha did use something extremely personal against Ethan (the pill "addiction") and he somehow spun it so Ethan is the bad guy? That because Trisha is upset about the fact he called her out on it, Ethan is in the wrong? Fuck this guy honestly, he should have been kicked after that

[@kylie2460]

These conversations are so confusing. 1, a therapist isn’t supposed to have an opinion about your situation, but help you think about different perspectives and mindsets so you can fully understand a situation apart from personal feelings. 2, Ethans responsible for setting boundaries or withholding information from Trisha since they can’t differentiate but Trish is not responsible for respecting others as well? Ethan stopped a few times to apologize and let Trish know how important they are to him and his life but Trish never reciprocates with anything encouraging or positive to Ethan. None of this has to do with mental illness but more with respect and caring for their relationship. But going back to boundaries, it seems especially in the beginning Trish would just say anything they wanted about Ethan regardless of if they triggered him or made him uncomfortable and upset but there has to be a therapy session for Trish? Idk this all seems very one sided. This was an episode I avoided watching for a while because I don’t care for this environment on the internet.

[@abnerjap]

I definitely agree with this feeling one sided.

[@nooberr881]

Agreeeeee 10000000%%%%%

[@toltorg]

I couldn’t have said this better.

[@bridgetwhite2112]

This is couples therapy though. Couples therapists do take sides. That's part of the therapeutic process.

[@SarahPikachu]

i agree with that as its very one sided here. although i think that some people aren't great at vocal love affirmation all the time; they express it in other ways. this convo is abt both of them but mainly trish's fragile mental health and how ethan can work with her, and so trish can work with him too, but i think trish is in the spotlight because they're the one who is having problems. and the therapist seems to favour her which is unfair

[@TianaYoung]

Huge credit to Trisha for her honesty and communication in this episode. I feel like these moments are super raw and real and it blows my mind sometimes that this is all public, which can’t be easy. I think the help from Dr Drew could seriously help some people with their communication and maybe even encourage people to try therapy. Despite how chaotic this all may be as a viewer, I think there’s a lot of quality life lessons in here!

[@chelsealynn2681]

Dr. Drew needs to join the show and sit in the middle ☺️

[@rickydlp]

The more ridiculous they look, the deeper the conversations get.

[@kenziecrosby2117]

You’re not wrong

[@universe3331]

I'll miss those costumes

[@kevindube7096]

They should definitely have Dr. Drew back, and both wear Dr. Drew costumes

[@yourloveriswild7533]

Lmfaoooo fr

[@tennesseewarminster8591]

Watch them have a Christmas episode and come in dressed like a steamed ham and a fully decorated tree and then have a philosophical talk about the materialistic nature of Black Friday.

[@donnamorgan525]

dr drew is not professional at all. ethan told her that in confidence and she aired it out there and had no room to share that. ethan protecting his brother in law, was not ill intended. her saying he took pills was said with evil intentions.

[@donnamorgan525]

33:49 she says herself him calling her crazy wasn’t triggering, what bothered her was him saying he was open. she was simply trying to bring him down by exposing that to make herself feel better.

[@alisha4635]

@@donnamorgan525 calling her crazy does bother her and she did ask him to stop.

[@janelm3145]

@@alisha4635 him unintentionally upsetting her by calling her crazy is so lighthearted in comparison . She did it with malice and it’s undeniable

[@alisha4635]

@@janelm3145 but not to her and that's clear.. calling some crazy who clearly has issues is messed up when she's asking him to stop. They don't jive well together

[@noodle3851]

Omg ethan is just evil he has said so many personal stuff about her and in that podcast he was constantly telling her why her relationships don’t work and why she shouldn’t be a mom and what not y’all are just crazy for defending him and even before that he has always exposed personal stuff about her hats off to her for even sticking around for as long as she did

[@fabRJ723]

I feel like trisha manipulated this whole situation by victimizing herself and crying meanwhile Ethan couldn't even get a word in the whole episode. Dr.Drew isn't even a real therapist so I'm not surprised he couldn't really actually help these two.

[@fabRJ723]

@@fdexter6255 but you also have to admit that the things they did or said on the podcast affected their relationship so that includes this episode

[@Lin.Stone.]

Absolutely right

[@sanaatayyan8632]

Not defending Trisha bc of everything she did, but how is she victimising? She literally talked about her feelings. The only problem was that Ethan couldn’t talk and that’s the “therapist” fault not Trisha’s.

[@fabRJ723]

@@sanaatayyan8632 she is victimizing herself every video she makes. She says statements that are so exaggerated or she is very cruel to others that no one with a right mind believes her. Plus Dr.Drew doesn’t specialize on treating people with bpd so he didn’t know how to handle this situation.

[@jenniferboyer-nizinski2866]

I honestly think Ethan wanted the world to see what he sees in Trisha. That's why he got Dr Drew on and why Dr Drew focused on her the most. I saw it in her already but am so glad they gave her the opportunity to tell her side. My husband is the male form of Trish. It's time for her to find happiness and she is one her way!

[@LosezDAUGHTER]

I love Ethan for doing this for Trisha. He is exactly the kind of friend Trisha needs in her life.

[@Official_KC]

I agree. And I'm glad they didn't get someone like Dr. Phil or one of the hacks. Dr. Drew gets lumped into those, but he's a legit doctor, focusing in psychology. I suggest people watch him on his YMH channel (That's definitely how Ethan got him on, since he's close friends with Tom Segura and Christina P, and Dr. Drew is on their channel) I think a lot of people's opinions changed after this, thankfully. They understand that Trisha isn't really doing this on purpose. I know a lot of people just like her, and over time after the apologies, you see it.

[@smokes3974]

Like trisha i suffer from borderline personality disorder and i understand her so well, it makes life unlivable

[@jenniferboyer-nizinski2866]

@@smokes3974 I am so sorry. Having a good support system is key to survival!

[@jenniferboyer-nizinski2866]

@@Official_KC I really think this did open people's eyes. The genuine hurt she felt has to shut up all the haters.

[@breebydesign]

Ethan: “Btw, she’s dating my brother in law.” Trisha: “What does that have to do with anything?” Dr. Drew: “Is he gay?” 😭

[@ashleylynn5173]

😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@tiffanykautz9874]

☠

[@Sooba_Wooba]

Lmfao I noticed but I felt it was.. a valid question.

[@breebydesign]

Jennifer Mactzul it was! I don’t think he was joking at all lol. And I think that’s what makes it funnier!! 😂😂😂

[@breebydesign]

ChocolateBreakfast who are you are, you are great! ❤️

[@almostfiction]

“We have this soulmate connection but at the same time he irritates the shit out of me, I don’t get it. “ -Trisha realizing her & Ethan are brother and sister now lol

[@ranao7219]

😂😂

[@cassandra811]

No I think she wanted him n obviously jealous of his happy marriage that has all these beautiful things while she forced it w Moses just so she could be IN by any means necessary.... I mean glad shes had a healthy baby now but I know she was lying about going to dbt she was not taking meds nothing she admitted to it eventually too so I just pray she does something for the sake of her new family now

[@brooklyn.e.ingram]

I literally dislike Dr Drew so much - he’s not a therapist, does not practice unconditional positive regard, is extremely biased. Don’t say you’re a therapist when you’re not

[@christinamartin3832]

Right!

[@bread_h20]

What do you mean by biased?

[@bread_h20]

Nevermind i see it now

[@viriotie]

@@bread_h20 hahaha love the character development

[@pengyou2000]

I was just about to say he so off putting like you cant tell a patient in conversation with them about something they felt bad about saying “ oh your those kind of people i try to fend off (online)” (while hes talking to Ethan) like wtf professionalism?? keep yourself out of your clients problems.

[@heidysolorzano5867]

I applaud Ethan for being the only person to provide a platform to truly understand Trisha as a human being. A lot of times I thought she would use mental health to evade accountability but this podcast was eye opening and I understand where trisha comes from better. I hope she truly is trying to overcome her struggles

[@HelloBombshell21]

Her fans have wanted this for her!!

[@yourloveriswild7533]

Yes!!! 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

[@heidysolorzano5867]

@Hae humans are very complex and the internet makes people seem 1 dimensional, you are either good or bad, there's no way to be both but that's just not true. Idk about Chris Brown but as it was mentioned in the podcast Trisha is seeking help and trying to better herself so thats good for now I suppose.

[@ashleymarie1156]

YES!

[@pacu1115]

We should also applaud Trisha for speaking openly about her struggles not only in relatable raw way but also in away that allowed for people to understand what’s underneath the controversy. For her to do this is not only incredibly difficult for people who have mental disorders but speaks volumes to the treatment she is currently seeking and practicing. Also an applause for Dr.Drew to allow Trisha to feel as though she was in a safe environment to allow to show her more vulnerable side.

[@personallstrrcks]

THE WAY THE DOCTOR LITERALLY KEEPS TRACK OF THE CONVERSATION AND POINTS OUT IF THEIR TALKING PAST EACH OTHER AND SHT WOW

[@A.J.805]

Lmao right

[@jmk0574]

He’s been doing this a looong time, and he’s great at it! 😊

[@bubbyberry]

you should watch his other stuff. he is actually famous btw lmao

[@A.J.805]

@@bubbyberry even if you have he’s got the personality to multitask it and it remains impressive lol

[@bubbyberry]

@@A.J.805 thanks for agreeing with me i guess?

[@AshLoRo]

Dr. Drew caused so much more trouble in the long run.

[@mstuckerify]

Love watching Dr Drew be an enabler. Love that for him.

[@adh3247]

“Trisha hitting Moses is none of your business”

[@Tina-et9ne]

He's just excusing her actions 🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️🤦🏼‍♀️ as someone with BPD it's very hard to watch someone just accept "this is how they are" instead of trying to get better and a "doctor" telling her that it's ok

[@jimming26]

30:30- Ethan: she's dating my brother in law Dr. Drew: is he gay? HAHAHA HOW DID NO ONE CATCH THIS

[@alexandralawson9578]

😹😹😹😹

[@habiibty]

omg I missed it! just went back, thanks! love him haha

[@aleliortega]

because Trish said she/him feels like a guy

[@SinclairJugular]

because Trisha said she likes dating gay guys and dated one for two years. what is so funny

[@habiibty]

That was the funny part. You both missed the point lol he was making a joke

[@Christina.N.]

HOLY CRAP. This episode was intense. I've always liked Trisha and seen she was a good person and not what people made her out to be. But Trisha- you've finally got everyone else to at least UNDERSTAND your issues. You can clearly see in Ethan's reactions he didn't understand before and now he does. I really hope you guys can make a good friendship. I'm rootin' for you Trish. You deserve happiness. And you've been a rolemodel for a lot of girl/young women/ women who didn't really see anyone "real" in the media. I'm actually just so happy your and Ethan's relationship has led to this point of openness and honesty, that lets THE WORLD see Trisha as a person and not just the butt of a joke. Because there is loads of other people out there just like Trisha and we're all seeking some form of resolution for our past trauma.

[@deliasmith6506]

ugh yes! I feel like this episode was so needed. Trisha is so hurt and never heard. people always assume and want to hate her, but they never allow her to explain herself.

[@b14ker14]

Did you get paid to write this for her lol she might be a good person but that's still up for debate. Playing the victim card 24/7 isn't cool and you trying to manipulate the truth isn't cool either. She has alot of work to do so it's best to save judgment for later.

[@instantlybroken]

This is my favorite episodes so far hands down

[@JennRighter]

@@b14ker14 did you watch the episode and do you know what comment you’re replying to?! Come on man, don’t be that person.

[@madimaclean]

This is exactly it. I always followed Trisha and felt this weird connection to her even though I didn't condone a lot of her actions. It's because I could relate to the feelings that drove them and the struggle of that dissociative state she goes to. I suffer with what is most likely, but not fully diagnosed as, BPD and I finally got on medication to manage it, but it took YEARS to reach that point - and that's without having my whole disordered life on display and the exasperated issues that must come with it. It makes me so happy to see a support system like Ethan and his family willing to be there instead of just playing into the circus that gravitates to her vulnerabilities.

[@SheIsntReal94]

Trisha literally admits 'i said it to be a bitch' and one minute later she says 'i was confused I thought I could say anything because of you'

[@Yo-sj2fp]

Literally

[@Sweetmomma3]

Gross ish

[@sarahlore7964]

Ya but both can be true… Ethan exposed that shit about her relationship to just be a bitch

[@SK-iu2uf]

Yes to be a bitch but she didn’t expect his reaction, so that’s why she got confused. She literally begged him to not talk about those text messages, but he did it anyway, so that set the tone for her.

[@spilledsalt4862]

The way Trisha’s upper lip didn’t move the whole time is hilarious.

[@ebonylovesanime]

☠

[@vdb000]

Trisha saying Ethan and her are like best friends and feel connected but he still irritates her ........that’s called being siblings 💀

[@igkgigoh]

I think they are close to renaming the podcast then.

[@rachaelstubes]

I think she was saying he is like her best friend, as in he is like Shane Dawson

[@katwebbxo]

@@igkgigoh Sibling Rivalry is already taken though lol.

[@InfamousJJ420]

@@katwebbxo lol doug walker

[@fcirl]

Or frenemies

[@alysonrodriguez6767]

This makes me glad that Shane never did a docuseries on Trisha like a lot of people requested. In hindsight, I think it would have hurt her more than helped her and people would not have taken it seriously because of Shane's controversies. I'm glad we are getting to know Trisha on her own terms.

[@laurelthefloral7180]

Yeah I feel like this podcast is a healthy version with Ethan instead of well...

[@adelinewurzer4533]

for sure

[@CarlosHernandez-uj8vo]

Underrated comment

[@pep_z780]

didn’t he start that series with her or something similar

[@DeletedUser-zm9bf]

@@pep_z780 no i think he did a vid living a life as her for a day but it was short and not a docuseries

[@lb9320]

Why does it seem like Dr. Drew is a secret onlyfan subscriber of Trisha’s. He’s pretty terrible at being a mediator. 😂

[@taeminaj8363]

he was speaking facts

[@thezenghproject]

Because he’s a certified professional who doesn’t agree with a misogynistic, manipulative, ignorant podcaster like Ethan???

[@rottecavia1625]

dr drew was lowkey rude to ethan lmao

[@belfonsecaa1801]

SUPER RUDE

[@kou2553]

I only saw him rude at the beginning when he saw the ig vs reality vid but he's been pretty good throughout

[@rottecavia1625]

@@kou2553 a ‘mental health specialist’ should know better tho

[@kou2553]

@@rottecavia1625 true haha he slipped up

[@jonathanscott907]

Dude the more episodes I see of this the more I GENUINELY UNDERSTAND TRISHA, which is weird. I think maybe its valuable, like I feel like I'm kinda wasting my time listening to her, but I'm learning and empathizing at the same time. Tbh I feel like I'm getting some insights that might really help me figure some things out with my family. The most amazing thing about this series is that you don't often get people so opposed to each other willing to hash things out.

[@sarvaise]

honestly i don't know what mental health issues she faces but i totally get her, i've never seen a therapist but i deal with a lot she does and even troll when i know nobody gets it lol and i like her

[@neekygerdthe1st]

Well said, like these episodes sort of... humanize her. While I disagree with her points of view on most things and her way of navigating conflicts, I get where she's coming from.

[@nikkiellery759]

This is an interesting thing that happens when people spend more time with individuals they believed was an 'other'. If one feels empathy with the other, suddenly there's a connection and a humanizing that happens. This can sometimes feel uncomfortable but it's excellent to practice and recognise. Others aren't really others, there's just a barrier somehow to understanding. This podcast started out as a dramatic goof and it's showing viewers who seem to me as if they'd not usually go out of their way to understand a polarizing personality that empathy is never far behind interactions like this.

[@zandie12]

Same man I find her really likeable

[@jonathanscott907]

@@nikkiellery759 just curious, what do you mean exactly by 'other'? My opinion of her mainly changed because I realized she was actually a very genuine person rather than deceptive. Her initial introduction to h3h3 podcast and a lot of people was her transgender video which literally made no sense and came across extremely insensitive, also it seemed to take advantage of a good cause(transgender awareness) and using it for monetary gain by making up a bullshit story about herself. However, when more information came out and she LITERALLY dated a gay guy and pegged him and that's part of who she is, like for one I was surprised but I could immediately validate why she made that weird video and wasnt acting. Also I thought she was a bitch because of the drama with nickacado avacado, but since then I can see why she ignored him, the nature of their interaction seemed creepy, but she might still be in the wrong there because he was a fan and she agreed to meet up with him allegedly. I do t think I ever saw Trisha as 'other' I just thought she was a mean lying bitch who only looked presentable with a cake of makeup on so I picked on her for that, but that's super mean of me, but I dont mean that lol especially not anymore, I was throwing hate at hate, not a good habit though.

[@loofah8290]

This has secured the fact that I NEED Frenemies Merch, but not just the colorblock shit, like I need options. This episode was groundbreaking. like I don’t want just frenemies on it, maybe some infamous quotes made by either of them or some inside joke type shit. I don’t want it to be ✨basic ✨

[@PossibleBat]

Absolutely please Ethan and Hila, have some designs cause IM BUYING

[@theunveileressreginaecaeli5772]

Safe word suggestion: "STFU ethan/trisha" Lol Psst. Im kidding 🤞😁🤞

[@jimjam2783]

There should be a hoodie half black, half pink

[@JoseOrtega-lj8dd]

@@jimjam2783 That'll be amazing!

[@molinaproductions123]

Oh my god I was thinking the same thing

[@gvshe996]

They should have made Ethan sit on the pink side of the set😂

[@andyd7929]

Ethan can barley get a damn word in, they just constantly interrupted him and it’s so aggravating

[@RT-zi7rt]

Dude for real, they gave him no room to provide context for any of the stuff she talked about. And giving that it seems as if he knows nothing about the person trish is, on the surface it makes him look bad and in the wrong. Tbh this “doctor” didn’t seem too professional about it.

[@laylaholloway5455]

This is sooooo true the doctor seemed like he was walking on eggshells around Trisha or trying to stay on her good side while making Ethan look bad

[@belfonsecaa1801]

IKR !!!!

[@ifindyoubeautiful]

Does anyone else feel like we just went through a therapy session with them Edit: Thanks for the likes friends! Ethan & Trisha - I love you both. I’ve been struggling lately and this podcast has given me something to look forward to. Even when it’s heavy I love the realness and I see the best in both of you

[@sakuralovesdepp2]

I've been in therapy. I felt everything!

[@JoeMartinMusic]

well... we kinda did lol

[@teresamesa]

yes. it literally felt like one of my therapy sessions.

[@Hiir0e]

Yeah really like i felt for Trisha so bad... And i started to see similarities and really he opended up my thinking about some issues in my head .. interesting

[@WutTheDeuceGaming]

would imagine that was the secondary point, while also seeking to better their own relationship. A win-win for everyone and a great idea.

[@ericxpenner]

Ethan giving me Peter Griffin-in-drag vibes.

[@jayce6172]

LMFAOOOOO TRUE

[@RobinLundqvist]

omg he is.

[@WasBannedTho]

So true

[@sue.c46]

OH MY GOD! I`M DEAD

[@heckyuh]

there’s four people on hold but i can taaaaalk

[@zoeinkerman969]

I know this word has been over used on the internet but ethan was so gaslit in this episode

[@direct-empowerment]

thats so true

[@lilbigplanet4170]

Trisha was talking about her mental health. Ethan was only really trying to justify if what he did was wrong or not.

[@_JaneDoe000]

Dr Drew clearly an enabler..

[@brileyjohnson725]

I think trish was pretending to be someone else for so long that now she’s expressing who she is and accepting it and nobody is believing it

[@mar6940]

🎯

[@opera_gangster]

Hard agree. You can tell just how comfortable she is presenting more masculinely in this video. As someone who has been a loooong time follower of Trish, I feel like it’s easier to tell when she’s trolling or hyperfocused on something versus being genuine. Oftentimes I find she has trouble putting into words her feelings, but feels genuine about it, so it may come across as ignorance or insulting when in reality she’s just struggling to clarify something she’s only just learning about herself as well

[@loganbradford2343]

Trisha was Ethan all along

[@moonshine814]

🎯🎯

[@iguessitsokyungrichbaby2813]

@@opera_gangster 🎯🎯🎯🎯

[@aliciaballesteros-mitchell1059]

Okay but this episode is so important. This is really destigmatizing mental health treatment; I've genuinely never seen big youtubers really do anything as deep as this.

[@Autumnaul]

That is exactly what I was thinking! The genius and class that everyone involved brought to this episode is so commendable. We all need more content like this

[@cacapoopie4438]

it was actually really nice to finally have someone talk about mental health struggles in a serious and genuine way that is forgiving and understanding.

[@alizaa7550]

This is mu expectation now for when youtubers want to comment on mental health. Because there are so many videos that claim or aim to be woke but it just adds to the bs and spread of misinformation. Everything I've seen about mental health from big influencers is just so disingenuous that makes this video realllyyy refreshing.

[@weliveinasociety4629]

I really liked especially how trauma informed Dr. and the group in general was, like the fact that they took time to explain the different ways she was disassociating or lashing out and how to communicate with someone when they do disassociate. I think this is definitely one of my favorite podcasts by far they've done.

[@b1nary_f1nary]

Totally agree but there are lots of other youtubers doing this type of thing, it's a trend. Lots of videos with a guy called doctor K going round, check them out.

[@peepeepoopoo2400]

Trish 100% weaponized the pills. She brought it up unprovoked to hurt ethen out of anger.

[@wetsocks5055]

Well yeah she admitted it

[@jasmin5257]

@@wetsocks5055 right like that’s not a gotcha💀

[@dharmasings]

@@jasmin5257 i mean she claimed in this episode that she didnt weaponize it bc she thought their relationship had no boundaries which isnt true

[@jasmin5257]

@@dharmasings yeah then she admitted that she did..

[@dharmasings]

@@jasmin5257 no the opposite she admitted she weaponized it and then dr drew said thats the nature of ur relationship and then she said well actually i only said it bc i thought our relationship was having no boundaries.

[@cheezocream]

Dr Drew is painful to watch. He’s so unprofessional and constantly interrupts. Don’t ask questions if you won’t wait to hear the response.

[@brittanylarington7568]

Ethan: *hairflip* “ so you pegged him?”

[@deviantmoore9744]

Time stamp?

[@BridgetRavens]

hahaha

[@BridgetRavens]

@@deviantmoore9744 25:56

[@Kris-th5sv]

Iconic that you caught this as well

[@JLM498]

😂😂

[@CorinaBriggs1209]

I used to absolutely hate Trisha. Seeing this has given me a lot of insight on why she acts the way she does, and how she feels when she does it. She’s a very hurt and remorseful person, she can be toxic, mean, a liar, but she’s just a person. The fact that she’s trying to do better and is aware and feels guilty about the things she does is everything. I’m sorry Trisha, I don’t hate you, I never should’ve, I hope you feel better.

[@A.J.805]

Yes she is just a person like anyone else but she financially profits off of her illness unlike a regular person..If she really wanted to get better she would of done it the second the money started rolling in (considering the best type of help isn’t free or everyone would just get a chance to be sane) yet she’s doing meth with Jaclyn hills ex husband just this year like what else do people need to know she loves toxicity. Just like SOME OF those homeless people who don’t actually want help. They don’t actually care. Benefit off of it more than anything. Being on the internet damaged her even more but she’d completely lose her shit if she lost her platform that she made so much money exploiting of off. Online personalities like her are very damaging full circle. Ethan is completely right

[@sttrrst]

@@A.J.805 that’s not how trauma works. You cannot just get rid of it the second u have money? Tf is that logic, like ok I’m rich just gonna not have trauma anymore thanks ❤️ she’s going to therapists, that’s all she can do. Don’t be ignorant.

[@sttrrst]

@@A.J.805 I’m still so astounded by how absolutely absurd and ignorant your claim was, oh my god.

[@A.J.805]

@@sttrrst but you can work on it !! She’s been on KZbin for basically a decade that’s enough time for her to stop doing atleast meth with influencers ex husbands and to not be coincidentally recorded physically abusing her partner that doesn’t JUST happen lmao like I just said some people love to feel and be toxic she’s one of them stop defending this shit you sound stupid

[@sttrrst]

@@A.J.805 I sound stupid for saying you can pay off trauma? Okay lmao. I wasn’t defending her actions, I was pointing out how utterly nonsensical your comment was. I have trauma n even with therapy it’s never gonna just go away, that’s not how it works. I’m not the stupid one here bubba.

[@DandyyPlays]

The fact that in this episode Trisha was defending Nikita and now on Twitter they’re going for each other’s necks LOL

[@prosimpaudios4007]

that’s because Nikita loves victimizing herself she’s a full on weirdo omg

[@vanessalikesapples]

No one was attacking Nikita for being trans it’s just she’s irresponsible as hell during this pandemic

[@clmoss1]

Trisha is right to defend Nikita here from misogyny but Nikitia wasnt all open about her surgery she tried to say she built like that naturally cause shes ethnic but was exposed by a close friend

[@DandyyPlays]

@@clmoss1 I agree that Trisha should definitely defend her in this case, it’s just funny now to see how the tables have turned 😅 especially when nikita waited until trans day to call trishas tweets out to make her seem transphobic, it’s all a messy situation

[@princekareem]

Dr Drew: Domestic violence? That's understandable, I'm glad you're working on it. You don't want Ethan to bring your abusive behavior to light? Also understandable, what abuser wants that. Telling the victim of violence he needs to participate in therapy with the perpetrator in order to resolve it is garbage. She saw her chance to play victim here and went hard for it.

[@firstnamelastname9051]

I understand where you’re coming from but do you have any idea what your actually talking about? People with mental illnesses can act abusive. Have you done ANY research on the borderline personality? Trisha doesn’t deserve to be labeled as an abuser when shes (most likely) dealing with borderline rage which is a very difficult thing to navigate and can cause you to do things during episodes that you would never normally do. Its a rare case in which both people can be the victim. Trish is dealing with a mental illness thats almost impossible to manage. Shes in therapy. She admitted it was wrong. Im sure she apologized. She is very obviously ashamed. She, at least at this point, is trying to do better and get a grip. There is not a lot more she could do. She cant just “stop.” Hopefully that all makes sense. Sincerely, Someone with Borderline Personality disorder.

[@bas_ee]

@@firstnamelastname9051 She definitely is an abuser. A narcissistic, selfish person who is a pro at gasslighting. I like watching this podcast, but she is bat shit crazy. And yes, i do know what im talking about

[@bas_ee]

not saying she deserves to be shot for it, but borderline and narcisism and stuff like that is not an "act like an asshole for free"-card. Its still her own responsibility and most definitely allowed to be able to lable her as an abuser. I mean, what you say just makes you look like an enabler, and someone who allows people who have it rough to just be an asshole

[@firstnamelastname9051]

@@bas_ee enabler and having understanding for a whole PERSONALITY disorder are two different things. Hitting someone one time does not make anyone abuser especially if they do that mid borderline episode. Trish apologized, agreed it was wrong, and it working to improve it. It seems to really fuck her up inside that she hurt her partner. You dont seem to know anything about borderline. People during episodes act accordingly. It is still our responsibility to be held accountable but calling trish an abuser is not holding her accountable 😂 speaking from personal experience its more likely to drive us into deeper into our illnesses and make us sicker. And therefore our episodes more explosive. Being mean does not help the mental illness sufferer. You can hold someone accountable without calling them an abuser and a terrible person. Jesus christ have some empathy.

[@firstnamelastname9051]

@@bas_ee and narcissist and borderlines are not comparable and no one i know uses them as get out of jail free card. This is literally why there is so much shame around borderlines because people like you say shit like this.its heartbreaking really.

[@fernfernisfernie]

Don't ya'll dare stop making this podcast. This sincerely has been one of the more positive/comforting/entertaining things that's taken my mind off this horrible year. Please continue, even if costumes don't. It's safe to say a lot of us look forward to this every week!

[@daisywares1]

Agree. 100

[@Beautybabe316]

100%

[@kindachill]

SERIOUSLY. This is a joy.

[@perlamatias47]

Yes! This is actually the first episode I've watched fully (the rest were highlights and comps) and I really enjoyed it. I feel like having that outside perspective really allowed them to understand each other a lot more.

[@lucyevans19]

YES!!

[@leahdaniels6472]

y’all remember on certain David Dobrik vlog where Jason was wearing one of Trisha’s outfits? (I think it was a cheerleader one) and she said that she started crying because it fit him the same way it fit her and Jason and David just started laughing at her which I think resulted in her crying more, well she pretty much said the same thing in the beginning of this episode about the dress Ethan is wearing and instead of him just laughing he told her it fit him more like a shirt than a dress to make her feel better. See this is why she needs to except Ethan and Hila as good friends. Because I know she’d say the same dumb stuff for them too.

[@musikluv6]

omg that's such shit, do you know what video it was??

[@paroxysm8588]

I love this little connection you just made here, it actually pinpoints specific instances that make a friend "toxic." Now that's not to say they are toxic friends, but the chemistry and level of understanding is what separates a good friend from a "toxic" friend. Some friends can take the giggles and unintentional, or intentional, hazing; while some people would prefer or need friends who are more mindful of their feelings and values. Yanno?

[@JordynMariah979]

@@musikluv6 idk I think she was pretty on point.

[@dolphinbot]

I feel like David and Jason used her as an accessory and this podcast actually goes into what she's going through. She loves being in the spotlight and doing outlandish things but I think this format is good for her???

[@AnaaLilyy]

@@musikluv6 lobbpnpnpno pn m m no p me nbbn j

[@ariannagonzalez8934]

Trisha: im too narcissistic to kill myself Trisha: Im not narcissistic. Im to empathetic

[@whereveriam]

HELP I NOTICED THIS TOO

[@Shortlover59x]

I mean you can have a inflated sense of self but have empathy for others. Those are not either or. Both can be true.

[@bowtieboy6348]

I think everyone thinks like this 💀

[@zoe-zi5fx]

​@matteakarels1274 trisha is no where near empathetic unfortunately. she shows it a lot in the way she speaks about moses and his family.

[@hannahsachernegg362]

this might be weird for most people but, i can very much relate to it, just consider that for some people both can be true, one can feel like a narcissist while being overly empathetic as well, the brain is a weird thing ,mental health is hard,

[@lilliviars4814]

Dr. Drew literally babied her and let everything wrong she did slide and it drives me insane. Someone needs to call her out on her shit. Especially with Trisha hitting Moses.

[@HebrewKarLeigh]

Moses provoked her

[@alle6621]

@@HebrewKarLeigh so that makes abuse okay? Lmao

[@alexuwu2939]

@@alle6621 She's trying to better herself imo. It's obviously not okay at ALL but I do believe that Trisha has a lot of mental issues she's working through.

[@alle6621]

@@alexuwu2939 no no, it’s not okay period. There’s no defending this. And she’s not better, she’ll always be that toxic person. For example, everyone thought she changed when she joined frenemies and look how that ended.

[@littlelogan34]

@@HebrewKarLeigh yo. You being fr?

[@nikkirabie7921]

He looks like the bartender from Shrek

[@ciarad640]

Lmfao spot on 😂

[@tadrian786]

Lmao he really does😭😭😂

[@pp2248]

WAIT THATS 10/10

[@moodalia3938]

Omg that's him

[@ess.0074]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@vs71597]

*MAKE THIS A COSTUME ONLY PODCAST*

[@nora__]

Yeah I’m gonna miss when they go back to normal.

[@isheyla7]

YESSSS

[@hhbgvdndn9668]

LMAO yesssss

[@wholewheatbreadd]

PLEASEEEE

[@llacey]

YESS

[@britlugo2680]

Dr. Drew kept interrupting Ethan, let him talk too. He even finished Ethan's apology for him, that kinda sucks but it's good that Trisha's mental health was being advocated for.

[@christinamartin3832]

right.......maybe he's not really the best therapist.

[@SantosAl]

@@christinamartin3832 Or a therapist at all.

[@christinamartin3832]

@@SantosAl hey, whats up christina martin?! Great minds think alike !👍

[@JennSarracenia]

Weird, I’ve counted many times that he’s interrupted Trish and it’s a lot…?

[@catherinebennett3948]

nothing was said during this episode.... period. Trish manipulated the whole conversation and talked in circles the whole time and her behavior was validated by a "Doctor". Love to see it

[@elsaslefttoe4145]

catherine be quiet.

[@joshadams8473]

EXACTLY WHAT I WAS THINKING! He coddled her and didn’t even acknowledge Ethan’s feelings in this. Not everything has to be about Trisha, he’s “supposed” to be a mediator but instead he’s just kissing her ass while gaslighting Ethan making him feel like he was in the wrong for being worried about his brother. Like if my brother in law was in a relationship with someone like Trisha I’d be extremely concerned especially when she turned physical. The whole white or red out he was talking about is such a cop out response to Trisha being an absolute monster. Like she is so controlling and manipulative over Moses and she is so open about it! And the worse part dr drew labels himself as a real doctor when he can’t see something so clear. This episode really disgusted me

[@eggzs6727]

this is the first time trisha has admitted she loves ethan, she usually tries to say she never thinks about him and she couldn't care less but this was sweet

[@JesusGomez-ob2qt]

Also I notice ethan was tearing up when trisha cried,he also loves her its sweet

[@silmailu]

No she's said it before

[@slatplusmobb7118]

Time stamp?😊😊😊

[@JesusGomez-ob2qt]

@@slatplusmobb7118 just watch it all lol

[@slatplusmobb7118]

@@JesusGomez-ob2qt I do watch the show late at night playing games, just wanted a quick peak lol

[@SIPgirl5421]

Dr. Drew should be her doctor. He seems to really understand her

[@liebchen1983]

It says hes still licensed

[@reboundrides8132]

@@Kigoz4Life are you joking? Not only is he one of the most notable doctors in the entire US but he has a practice in Los Angela’s and has a list of a ton of patients he sees daily. You should do even just the slightest bit of research before you say something like that.

[@elifarmer3815]

He should be everyone's doctor

[@imsuperfuntime]

That's the sign of a good therapist

[@cassidycasimirisme]

@@reboundrides8132 i don't understand why he would even spread misinformation like that. Lmfao. What?? Smh

[@jessietapp975]

Going back to this episode is even more infuriating than the first time I watched it. Dr. Drew is NOT a therapist he’s not qualified to do this.

[@toriplayssg]

But they brought him there for that purpose. If they didn’t want his opinions they wouldn’t have asked for them

[@Theeblaccking]

@@toriplayssg obviously go to bed child

[@nakoriakiyama9417]

@@toriplayssgno they brought him for couples counseling not for a therapy session with the utmost care and respect for trisha while bashing ethan and discrediting him every step of the way

[@toriplayssg]

@@nakoriakiyama9417 couples counseling is therapy 😂

[@lilyg3539]

no one other than trisha could beat their partner (and admit to it) and then make themselves look like the victim...

[@annalupton9284]

Ehhhhh I think gabbie hanna probably could tbh.

[@wrigleymarie5763]

@@annalupton9284 maybe but the difference is nobody would let it go or believe gabbie. people are ignoring what trisha did to moses and still supporting her or just focusing on other things she has done. All of this is being swept under the rug and i feel horrible for moses especially bc they are gonna get married soon.

[@gorilla-grip-pussy-support7976]

It does happen sadly, when you work with abusers a lot or are around them they can admit to disgusting things and still manipulate the situation so that they’re the victim.

[@RIPBLANE]

This episode did actually bring me to understand where Trisha is coming from while I normally side with Ethan. I am sorry for the negativity that I may have ever added into the mix. As a person with mental health issues, not to this magnitude, I am sorry. And I hope other people do the same. Let’s show some love for Trisha, she needs it and I think we owe it to her. I love this series of the podcast, and I don’t want it to go away.❤️

[@monicacioni4884]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@JeanettePupko]

💕💫✨ Me too! Complete different understanding of her now!

[@defunkdafied]

100%

[@BalletTapJazz]

Yes!!!! And please extend this understanding to the people in your own life, we need to stop this idea of just cutting off "negative" or "toxic" friends without making any effort to understand or support them.

[@yourloveriswild7533]

🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻❤️❤️❤️

[@PeaceGurl330]

ill say it again- WE NEED A MOSES MICROPHONE

[@ArezX3]

no, we don't

[@m.w.9899]

Hear, hear

[@ma1102]

I like this idea but I genuinely don’t think he’d say much 😆

[@cristinaamaya9468]

He won’t use it. He will just nod lmao

[@chadsquared5852]

I feel like he wouldn’t want that at all it would just put him between arguments

[@janelledillon6553]

Back from the future ; y’all know what happens :(

[@elledesperado721]

Ethan playing with his hair is legitimately the funniest thing in earth like why is he such a natural

[@xxlilith_]

I have mad respect for Ethan being willing to stand down and admit where he was wrong instead of just doubling down on his original statements. 10/10 anime character development

[@Unknownprofilegames]

I'm at 45 minutes in and he has doubled down on EVERYTHING he's never wrong. It's always Trisha's fault. Are we watching the same video?

[@Nat-hr7wx]

Unknownprofilegames literallyyyy!!!! he always finds a way to put it back on trisha like he can’t formally apologize or admit it

[@byronbarrientos8471]

@@Unknownprofilegames what are you talking about ???? at 45 when he says what he says about her the context is literly him saying "people see you as these bad things but you're clearly NOT those things" .__.

[@DerpMuse]

@@Unknownprofilegames At first he started being like that with admitting error but blaming the reason he messed up being something Trish did as a means of blame shifting. Later on after Trish started crying and Ethan wanted to hug her, he was more open to understand Trish more, as was I. He took accountability and apologized to Trish and it made her smile. You have the wrong takeaway if you think it was doubling down the entire time.

[@baabaq9126]

Early on in this episode I felt like he wasn't but later, he definitely did

[@LordCallum]

i feel like ethan actually cares about trisha, his face when shes crying shows it so much

[@katzpyjamaz8574]

I noticed that! I knew he was going to try and hug her before he even suggested it, you could totally tell he was affected.

[@LordCallum]

@@katzpyjamaz8574 100%

[@JennRighter]

I agree. You can watch him, even through the costume, and you can tell it breaks his heart. A part of Ethan I’ve never seen.

[@josephdavies9407]

Shut up !!

[@LordCallum]

@@josephdavies9407 racist

[@superdoopercooper1962]

It’s hard not to discredit dr Drew entirely after watching this.

[@brandonklinski569]

How so?

[@ARampagingHobo]

@@brandonklinski569 He's simping for Trisha at every turn

[@justinsilverstein6278]

He's a quack that's not good enough at his profession to notice when a patient of his is manipulating him and lieing to him. You can't treat someone if you're gonna let them play you the entire session.

[@JennSarracenia]

It’s almost like… real doctors don’t just shit on mentally ill people and actually understand mental illness! Unlike this comment section.

[@jasminrodriguez5513]

@@justinsilverstein6278i noticed he flipped a switch after she started talking about getting treatment. He really likes that about her and it bled into the rest of the conversation

[@abigailpeckford5878]

it was so weird for that part around 30 min where ethan was trying to explain his feelings and Dr. Drew was just like "She doesn't understand boundaries" as if thats an excuse, like thats the whole point, SHE DOESNT, and thats bad and hurtful to ethan, but Dr. Drew made it seem like its Ethan fault for not understanding that she crosses boundaries. Ethan could barely get a word out about his feelings, Trisha would go on a whole rant at 35:11 and the second Ethan started talking Dr. Drew shut him down. It was so weird to watch

[@marirosado334]

But Trisha made a point that Ethan never set any boundaries to begin with and she never set any boundaries with him, so she assumed there weren’t any which she isn’t wrong for because Ethan brings up any and everything so it’s confusing.

[@bigmastermind1]

Trisha as ethan: " Yeah I love to peg men" Ethan as Trisha: "That's a lot to take in."

[@kayk6330]

Wording, Ethan

[@clurrtree]

Screaming

[@carina5633]

LMFAO

[@kierstenmilburn]

I noticed that too 😅😅😅

[@delaneycardwell7814]

HAHHAHAHAAA

[@LittleLeon82]

Ethan with a serious look on his face: “Trisha came out as a chicken nugget” 🤣🤣

[@jenb3744]

I wanted to see dr Drew’s face when he said it 😂

[@prettyinprepp]

@@Pfondeena this.

[@tonib7062]

Timestamp?

[@devinawhidby9874]

@@tonib7062 21:32

[@Comeonyoutubeseriously]

Bahahahaha 😂😂, I started smirking and cracking up as soon as he said it 🤣🤣

[@DeeDee97916]

God bless Ethan & his wife for their patience with Trisha. I couldn't do it.

[@noodle3851]

Omg ethan is just evil he has said so many personal stuff about her and in that podcast he was constantly telling her why her relationships don’t work and why she shouldn’t be a mom and what not y’all are just crazy for defending him and even before that he has always exposed personal stuff about her hats off to her for even sticking around for as long as she did

[@Vazzzz]

@@noodle3851 well when someone tell you that they don’t care about being talked about and you do it they get mad and go full on rage mode. It’s her fault and she knows it and that’s why she’s getting help. No one’s perfect so stop blaming him.

[@lilbigplanet4170]

@@Vazzzz she didnt go "rage mode" until Ethan got defensive about the pills. Which he shouldnt have gotten defensive about when hes over there sharing private DMs when she was begging for him not to.

[@camrynburkett3782]

@@lilbigplanet4170 he didn't care about she said it. He was just confused on why would she. Trisha does so many things on and off of the podcast. She can only out herself but hates when others do.

[@yesindeed5637]

exactly

[@moola9755]

trisha completely made things up. in the beginning she was saying that she said the pill thing to be a bitch, and then later with the dr's support she was saying she thought it was okay to say it in the name of "openness"

[@TheMaggiemcgrath22]

Ethan: shes dating my brother in law Dr. Drew: is he gay? 💀

[@annikaa881]

Aaaaaahshhahahahshxud

[@minagee9949]

So mad that went unanswered, but honestly everything Trish says contradicts itself anyways.

[@herbalfever296]

Time stamp??

[@organicallyhannah]

Lorena Munoz prob around 45

[@Mike10700]

Trisha said she identified as a trans gay man and dates gay guys like 5 mins before that, shows you paid attention...

[@hanm3172]

I never expected Trish to be able to move me to tears. She's so human and people like to look past that, she puts her all online which includes the ugly parts.

[@hgodfrey5612]

I cried too. I listened to this during work

[@margauxlaurent6324]

I been saying this forever, Trisha brings very important subjects in this platform for years and she has a really good heart, she just trolls sometimes and uses her trolling to get a reaction of people and im not excusing her bad behaviour just sharing my two cents from a long time trish fan.

[@maiagirrl]

Same!!!

[@preciousangel8721]

I know I'm listening to this in the park and I really feel for both of them and I started crying a little in public 😂😂

[@empoleonfangirl]

Lol fr I teared up too

[@mandananellie]

5:07 Identity isn't clear 6:53 Shitty people you use for TF 8:27 Instagram vs. Reality 12:34 Ethan never apologizes 20:20 Trans video 21:25 Chicken nugget video 24:50 I dated a gay man (? outing Sean again) 28:39 He triggered me 34:44 May be you shouldn't have hit him 37:17 It was a joke 40:57 First time that happened 🤔 54:16 I love that person as a friend of mine 1:00:04 I did troll 1:07:17 What a fugue feels like 1:07:35 Trisha apologizes

[@garydellabate6846]

God bless you

[@lexiwilliams8481]

bro literally thank u 🙌🏽

[@briannavann1]

thx you

[@LadyINTJOfficial]

I know I shouldn’t start a sentence with “you” but fuck it I’m gonna say it: Trisha, YOU PUT YOUR HANDS ON MOSES WHICH IS UNACCEPTABLE, it’s not Ethans fault that you beat on your fiancé, all he’s doing is calling you out on what you done. THERE!!! I SAID IT!!! SUE ME!!!!

[@melissasoliz9894]

Love this energy lol When Ethan asked whether he should be worried because Trisha hit Moses before, and Dr. Drew told him “he’s a grown man, it’s none of your business” I couldn’t believe that advice was coming from a therapist. Imagine if a women was being hit by her boyfriend, would Dr. Drew still say “she’s a grown women, it’s between them.” No. Domestic violence can happen to anyone.

[@LadyINTJOfficial]

@@melissasoliz9894 exactly, the double standard that you should never put your hands on a woman yet it’s okay to put your hands on a man, is just absolutely disgusting. Ethan has every right to be concerned and worried because that’s his brother in law.

[@melissasoliz9894]

@@LadyINTJOfficial exactly. If Trisha said Moses hit her and left bruises, you know Dr. drew would tell her she needs to get out of that relationship immediately and would probably call the police. But “Moses is a grown man. He can handle the abuse” pfffft

[@bhutwheyttherismor86]

Trisha's smile after he said he loves her for who she is MELTED MY HEART. I almost teared up a little. I really hope this podcast keeps going. It's helping me see Trisha, Ethan, and mental health in a new way.

[@moopink2]

i fully did tear

[@neljay9149]

54:18 for the free replay

[@DTMBUILT]

Same. Trisha is a sweetheart. I’m so glad she’s doing good for herself

[@KC-bc2tb]

I kinda felt like she thought it was strange

[@kylel7158]

@@KC-bc2tb maybe in the moment, but I bet later on she'll think about it later and be like, "that was really good to hear"

[@wv11989]

Trisha: crys Ethans eyebrows: its dance time boys

[@commonusername5715]

I shouldn't laugh at this, I feel bad

[@capric0rpse]

Lmao aw, stop.

[@gmailaccount3423]

Why do his eyebrows do that though, for real?

[@Jeekobz]

@@gmailaccount3423 it’s a symptom of his Tourette’s

[@leftrexx5071]

Time stamp?

[@saraglongballs2654]

Ethan: “Maybe you shouldn’t hit him” Trisha: cue the water works

[@Lailasstyles]

Nah that made me laugh 😂

[@Tryssfg]

We will all be rewatching frienemies lol

[@mickymyko]

I think the fact that trisha admits to still being miserable after plastic surgery is very important information that should be spoken more of. Maybe plastic surgery should be the absolute last resort, AFTER you tried fixing your inner demons.

[@x0xmadix0x]

Well she did undo the results of her plastic surgery with her poor eating habits. I’d regret wasting $20,000 too.

[@t3ddyspaghetti39]

@@x0xmadix0x you'd be surprised at how often poor eating habits are linked to poor mental health and vice versa

[@PossibleBat]

@Bill Anderson that’s what having low self esteem is like... can’t you relate? I can.

[@l0v3existsXOXO]

I felt that so hard! I wanted a nose job for over 10 years & always thought that after I got it I would feel so beautiful and feel like a whole new person. I finally got one & was just as insecure afterwards as I was before... plastic surgery will not fix an internal self esteem problem

[@chloev9667]

Tends to be the reason lots go back for more surgeries, once you fix one thing you find other things you want to fix. That's why a decent plastic sugeron does consultations beforehand to make sure people arent suffering body issues that will only get worse with surgery. It's really quite common for people not to be satisfied with their bodies after plastic surgery.

[@1chick1camera]

“I understand why Trisha’s upset” is something I feel like she or other people definitely doesn’t hear enough.

[@twilit]

True - the worst thing anyone can hear when they’re upset is that they have no reason to be upset.

[@Feelin.Kinda.Breezy]

Yes. Dr. Drew validating her feelings (the ones people deem crazy) made Trish instantly light up and look relieved. Dr. Drew absolutely helped her in such a short period of time, impressive!

[@lunarqi]

as someone who's schizophrenic, hearing people validate your feelings when almost everyone just calls you insane is one of the best feelings ever :)

[@rigs5223]

I feel like she really needed this :)

[@cailleauxheartsnbf]

why did this break my heart ,,,

[@lolamay9574]

i think this episode made me understand trisha’s point of view a lot more. she genuinely felt like he miscommunicated and i get that

[@gusfring]

not “doctor” drew enabling trisha lmao. the whole point was she did weaponize ethan’s private info bc she was angry with him and lashing out. ethan brought out the moses dms as a bit and consistently asked trisha for limits the whole time. intent matters and trisha was not the victim

[@rachaeldaley1607]

This is so emotional and weird. Them dressed up as each other while taking thearapy wow. What an episode

[@jimmy2883]

lol! It’s almost symbolic of them trying to put themselves in each other’s shoes.

[@dh-ck2om]

@@jimmy2883 woahh lmaoo

[@calebcrouch6133]

@@jimmy2883 lol yeah... almost.

[@snapperhd]

@@jimmy2883 damn, we’re getting poetic up in this place

[@Ybag12345]

I’m so happy they recorded it even it’s prob bad for their relationship lmfao 😭

[@erguno]

Trisha said you either wanna be her or be in her and ethan is literally her!!!1!

[@skeetzo]

Omg you are right! Hahaha

[@alexarkadios9108]

OMGGG

[@jessicaj.6291]

Omg... she was right 🤣💀

[@timolee]

lmaoooo

[@burritopadre7590]

Ha...gottim!

[@honeymoon6039]

DAN LAUGHING IN THE BACK IS SO FUNNY

[@brewolfe7525]

drives me insane how she makes ethan the bad guy of her literally abusing her partner.