Going Deeper with Nick and Sandy - The Ultimatum | The Viall Files w/ Nick Viall

[@alyssiarash2408]

Take a shot EVERYtime Sandy said “you didn’t see everything we went through” WELL TELL USSSSS. Omggggg that’s all Sandy does. Sugar coat it all and beat around the bush. I’m glad Nick steps in and addresses it directly at times.

[@LovernotafighterFL]

She's sooo annoying and fake

[@kranae]

I think she was protecting him, it sounds like he was struggling with drugs. There’s probably a lot that won’t be said about that. Which makes sense if he doesn’t want to share that.

[@christinak2443]

@11:50 “nick what are we not seeing?” Sandy *eye rolls* 🙄

[@alyssiarash2408]

@@kranae I’m talking more so about the things we didn’t see on the show that she keeps talking about. Example: The “deep conversations” between her and JR. like what were those conversations about?? I wanna know 🤣🤣

[@alyssiarash2408]

@@christinak2443 I needa go back to see hahaha I wanna like her but she isn’t saying much. I wanna know the so called “deep” conversations. 🥲🤣

[@thaniac8812]

Should’ve named this podcast “Going in circles” instead of “Going deeper.”

[@surgtechbae]

😂😂😂

[@tammy7093]

😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@9crimes87]

9 months dating and breaking up constantly? Why the absolute hell did they go on the show?? Sandy's initial refusal was spot on

[@aisabeh402]

Its obvious they did it for the "fame" like talking about marriage after 9mo of on and off relationship is ridiculous

[@Cherry01449]

Yeah...and then she agreed

[@JulianaCeasers]

Sandy likes to hear herself talk. It’s exhausting listening to her. She talks in circles and beats a dead horse but ends up never really saying anything tangible.

[@Cherry01449]

And her voice is straight annoying tbh. Way of speaking and tone of voice plus the bull she says sprinkled on top..

[@Thatgirlyrayray]

sandy all of a sudden was a certified therapist to JR, when she couldn’t be that for Nick. LOL

[@mmyersx3]

👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@MariMari-m3x1j]

Hell no. Sandy wants to make HERSELF look good. I’m sorry but she has to admit having J.R answer the door WRONG. Making faces at the table at Nick as he was talking WRONG. Sandy forgetting J.R and Zaina WRONG. Letting another man call her wife WRONG. She had to give him that snip for him to think that was okay even she said “ I’m treating this as a real trial marriage , this is what we signed up for he gave me an ultimatum “ She still puts it all on him when HE was watching it happen.. it was on tv. We all saw it. If she really loved him there would be boundaries which she didn’t put with J.R. She liked it , she felt him. This whole podcast I’m sure was to reassure HER brain into making sure she didn’t look bad.

[@LovernotafighterFL]

I can not STAND her. She is so fake and selfish

[@LovernotafighterFL]

She's horrible!

[@Cherry01449]

Omg THANK YOU 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👌🏻 SPOT ON.

[@princessarosales6153]

Yes literally no accountability!!! How she says she couldn’t see what anyone else was going through except herself and that was wrong… then right after saying she cares so much about him…then goes back to I was hurting myself sorry I wasn’t protecting u… Sandy just say ur selfish u didn’t give a fuck about him until u had to for the cameras. If anyone gave him support u cried and wanted them to hate him while ur a wall apart from him effing JR getting ur butt smacked and ruining his character to JR for JR to treat him that bad and then act innocent …. Sandy that’s just one thing about this interview never mind the rest of this useless hour of nothing.

[@SB-qf9yt]

She kissed JR multiple times, witheld the truth, gaslit the hell out of Nick and then he had to apologize 😂

[@nz3644]

As he should 😂

[@chellbell7899]

I feel like they’re speaking in code while trying to explain things away. I’m guessing due to his addiction. I wish they would be more honest

[@ashleypeck8233]

they kept going in circles and saying the same things! 😩 you can tell nick & Natalie KNOW something else had to have happened, either he was extremelyyy cruel to her while drunk/on drugs or he was just completely out of control and sandy agreed to not share about it.

[@ElizabethLilac23]

That part. They said literally nothing at all

[@euridicecuesta]

Facts!

[@Danceizlief]

“Because of alcohol and other things”-Sandy 🙄

[@chellbell7899]

@ like just say it cause we know lol. Addiction is a hard topic but the way they tried to sugarcoat it was silly to me

[@GraceMwale-k1c]

What I'm hearing is these two had no business going on a show that ends in engagement and marriage.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

These two have no business interacting with other human beings - period.

[@GraceMwale-k1c]

@chuckschillingvideos ouch lol

[@mrsroseyp109]

Probably shouldn’t have done the interview together

[@claritywithkj2509]

I think the reason they were using code words and phrases for Nick's dark side was he may have been threatening to harm himself or others and they just don't want to go there. That's why Sandy keeps syaing "There's things you don't see or hear". Still, Sandy is completely egocentric and enjoyed JR's messiness towards Nick.

[@hopemarie4459]

I think that she was trying so hard to be supportive of Nick and be a good person through his addiction and be a shoulder to lean on, that having someone else not have that empathy and be more mean and direct with him than she would be? I think it probably validated a lot of her feelings about the situations that she was not acting on or saying to try and be supportive during the tough time he was going through. I bet that did feel good, and not for good reasons, but I can see why it would feel good if she was trying to not scold him basically or make him feel bad for negative things he was doing that were impacting her, that would have lasting effects and resentment. And while she might not act on it, someone else was in front of her on her behalf. Not saying she or JR was right, but I can see the mentality.

[@heyojanna]

That was my thought as well, especially when he said he was saying anything to get her to leave the show with him

[@pineappleice100]

You broke up 5 or 6 times in 9 months of dating eachother BEFORE coming on the show?

[@patriciapower1543]

Not Nick taking complete accountability for his actions and defending Sandy and Sandy still placing most of the blame on Nick.

[@Cherry01449]

☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻

[@erinreamensnyder2248]

They are so abstract when talking about their relationship I wish they would just say what they’re trying to say- good interview though, Nick was definitely pressing them in this

[@patyguerra4719]

I feel like Sady keeps saying the same things like “there is a lot people don’t see” yes we know can you now respond without excusing yourself

[@chellbell7899]

@@patyguerra4719 like ya so tell us what we didn’t see that’s the point of the interview. They danced around everything instead of just being honest about how it really went down.

[@alyssiarash2408]

I literally commented the same thing. Like tell us Sandy. We obviously did not see it all so TELL US! She sugar coats and beats around the bush. It’s so annoying!

[@trovandomimoon220]

I'm so confused by this interview. Why does she even have to defend herself. Nick is weird and has issues and has been having issues Just like past girls that have met him have said. I don't think she needs to apologize or baby him. He a grown man and it's embarrassing that he isn't really helping himself. Hopefully now he is but who knows

[@clara6012]

Yeah, either you do the interview or you don't!!

[@KF_moon]

Right!

[@Ktelizabeth5524]

Nick taking accountability and sandy saying “there’s a lot you don’t see”. Like sandy do you not see the stark difference? You blame everything on nick, and you also agreed to be on this show. You like nick because you feel in control of him and he will follow you around. Nick- cut ties with sandy. She is going to continue forever I promise you do not need her emotionally, there are so many other people that are more empathetic, considerate. She likes you because she knows she can use you and manipulate you by using therapy speak. Don’t let her convince you that you’re a terrible partner. It’s very clear she’s very comfortable emotionally manipulating people in order to get her way.

[@caseyrosen7520]

Agree they spoke in circles and were noticeably vague, but I’m surprised everyone is assuming there’s a much bigger bombshell to uncover. Addiction is ugly, read between the lines. He was likely “absent” because he was using, and I’m sure things were incredibly messy and traumatic when he was using on the show. Seeing your partner turn into an intoxicated shell of a human is traumatizing. That needs no further explanation. Give the poor couple a break, it is never ever advised to talk openly about addiction when the recovery is still fresh and recent.

[@Cherry01449]

She said she knew him 2,5 years before being with him for 9 months....why get yourself in that then...? I highly doubt he started being addicted when they just started dating

[@veevees1675]

Wont cut them a break. They went on the show for fame. Here it is.

[@iamaiajm43]

I love Natalie so much, I am so glad she made a point to apologize and was direct and sincere about saying in the recap that they slept together

[@misskayleebugs]

This whole thing kind of felt like everyone was laying into Sandy including the comments I’m seeing on this video. I’m not sure if we were all watching a different show. Sandy has flaws and Nick has flaws. I think there’s more information about Nick’s flaws that Sandy is not sharing out of respect for his healing journey, which I respect. It’s clear that none of you know what it’s like to be in a relationship with an addict. Nick is not completely innocent. And to be honest with you, if someone was texting me and calling me nonstop and was clearly mentally unstable due to being intoxicated and showed up to my door banging on the door yelling, I would be kind of scared to open the door too. The fact is we don’t have the entire story so stop being so hateful toward people you don’t know.

[@moniquealexandra6003]

i’m sorry but i can’t believe anything she says after seeing how flirtatious they were and the butt smacking and not giving boundaries to JR out of respect for nick like girl stop 💀

[@Cherry01449]

💯👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

[@Erinhow22]

“Let’s go speak our truth on a podcast, but not say any of the truths!!!” 🙃 this felt like a long interview of nothing

[@Cherry01449]

💯

[@ivapetrovska9986]

So, same as in the show - Sandy tries to make Nick look bad, refuses to take accountability on her part 🚩tries to improve her image, and is still unlikable.... Nick unfortunately, has too much compassion for her and is feeling excessive guilt due to his past addictions and emotional irregularity, therefore takes the total blame.

[@calireel2067]

I think throughout the interview, Nick is totally trying to make Sandy look better and cover for her the same way he did on the show. I wish she would just accept responsibility for the way she acted.

[@alyssiarash2408]

I just want Sandy to admit that she liked the attention from JR and that’s all!!! 😂

[@barbmoore6587]

These two are so irritating🇨🇦🤫🤔😱 In every way...they need intensive therapy ...the both of them...he's a child boy man and she is a wannabee playboy

[@chuckschillingvideos]

In case you hadn't realized, Sandy is the meal ticket. He's trying to keep that alive.

[@theinbetween.youtube]

Kudos to Nick and Natalie for asking the hard hitting questions. But unfortunately, I didn’t expect Sandy to take any accountability anyway 😐 “going deeper” on defending herself

[@Kloves818]

I would bet my entire life savings Nick was threatening himself. And probably Sandy/JR too. Him dancing around the truth only shows lack of accountability. If they can both agree that he was horrible to her then we as viewers should take their word for it. It clearly went much further than sobbing on the couch.

[@chuckschillingvideos]

Guffaw. He is far too much of a narcissist to touch a hair on his own head.

[@elexiaflores7750]

Not me being the first one to be watching this. I been waiting for this one lol

[@kaylamcallister5350]

Same!

[@amillerrr]

Also have been waiting for it 😆

[@kaylamcallister5350]

Nick, please sell these candles on your website! 🙏🏼

[@shimmerglittershinesparkle]

Me too ! 😂

[@angelicatorres86]

This felt like a lot of repetition.

[@JoCissDanTheVet]

Painfully boring to watch! It's so strange it's almost like they don't know each other at all and are recycling the same phrases with no actual context. What happened? Who did what? Who said what? What happened next? We need specifics. 😂🤦

[@Cherry01449]

💯 omg. Painful 👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻

[@Cherry01449]

I call Sandy "bullshit". 💯 She said if anything happened to Nick & he needed her she'd go to him to the end of the world.... blah blah blah.... Giiiiiirl he specifically said he's in a bad state. YOU sent your boy toy at the door to send him off. 👋🏻👋🏻👋🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻👎🏻 PS. I get that it's hard to be with an addicted person. Just don't be with him then 🤷🏻‍♀️ Go away for good 🤷🏻‍♀️ duh.

[@JR-yo2rq]

Drink every time she says “and what not”

[@JoCissDanTheVet]

Soooo annoying!!!

[@dlovely3493]

Am I the only person that saw JR naked and Sandy on the bed as he closed the door in the opening of episode 9. Why wasnt this addressed🙄

[@Sh8kS]

yeah i dont know why everyone is just sneezing at that

[@MilaTejana]

I looked a couple of times. He was wearing shorts but it really did look he was naked.

[@Cherry01449]

​@@MilaTejanashorts or not they acted like they're sexually active tbh..She can refuse it all she wants. Videos are there and we all show them. Especially the last night together before switching partners again...they kiss super casually

[@itsasia_]

I saw it definitely

[@mikaylac2047]

He was clearly wearing shorts

[@somebodymomma7]

My lord did sandy say “what not “ a million times in this sit down 😩🤣

[@Thebellreve]

And humans 😂

[@KF_moon]

Sandy continues to bash Nick in order to protect her image. While Nick not only takes accountability as he should for his part AND for her.

[@Suman-h3u]

Sandy speaks so much in circles. So many words and nothing said at all

[@NickiKachelmier]

This should have been separate interviews so they could speak freely and not just try to protect each other the whole time. I feel like Sandy would have opened up more or been able to answer the questions more directly if Nick wasn’t sitting right next to her.

[@SN-qd9qw]

I feel like they are trying to blame her for Nicks emotions. As if he wasn’t putting her through it as well. The only difference is that she handled her emotions better.

[@Thebellreve]

As humans…. humans . He’s my favorite human. Lord 😂

[@nobody-vp7gm]

ITS PAINFUL TO WATCH SANDY LIE AND GASLIGHT US VIEWERS!!!!!!!!!

[@Cherry01449]

☝🏻☝🏻☝🏻

[@fayr8807]

Sandy talks so much but actually says nothing. They tried to hold her feet to the fire but still got nothing at all. What a waste of an interview

[@amanduhhh_s1796]

this title is clickbait. it should be rewritten to Going Surface Level with Nick and Sandy. Now from this interview i am left with making more assumptions and presuppositions about them because they were not direct. also, i dont think they are humans. they referenced the word human to make it sus now.

[@taylorcollier-n3y]

Am I the only one who hears tana mongeau voice when she talks??

[@wonderbabetv5014]

Sandy is protecting him because all the hurt he has caused her has been because of addiction. So she seems to be holding back out or love and respect for him. I wish he spoke up more honestly because it seems unfair she is getting the short end of the stick.

[@ivapetrovska9986]

she would like us to think that..but I do not see any love, respect or care for him, and I am considering the tiredness which would appear after being avoided from a partner or being with an addict.

[@Keeks0217]

Soooo so weird that Nick was obviously trying to get him to say he did drugs. If someone OBVIOUSLY doesn’t want to speak about something, get the damn hint and respect that. Leaving the comment and finding out how to block this entire account lol

[@christianjesusrojas984]

They just kept going around the actual answer we wanted to hear for every question they were asked. Even the podcast owner kept saying to elaborate and felt confused from their answers.

[@ginastar5933]

This whole interview is giving “DAMAGE CONTROL” vibes. Season is over let’s try to save our reputation because it’s not looking good out there.

[@mark6865]

Nick you are a REAL MF. You deserve happiness. I like Sandy but when you aren’t compatible ENOUGH, it is what it is.

[@ew7554]

Sandy rlly tryna downplay the connection is crazy lol

[@oliviaalise3595]

I am 1 hour and 15 minutes into the episode and I’m still waiting for them to lay into Sandy. Ask “why did you not tell Nick about all the kisses and then say you would tell him after the show.” What happened that whole night when Nick walked out and then the next morning Nick was again taking all the blame for Sandy saying she was going to lie to him for weeks!

[@leeraewi]

Nick Viall's take on their relationship is so wild to me. Did we watch the same show?!?!

[@jenniferdinh4968]

Nat is so amazing host. Saying and asking the right things

[@Jodecigirl]

It looks like he was on something and more than likely her supplier. They had a good time doing this stuff together but it got toxic because he had a problem and she didn't. That was their bond, that's why the relationship doesn't make sense and they keep talking in circles. That LA life lol

[@lissettegedeon1190]

This convo js when in circles. Addiction or not, Nick is still acting like he is only one at fault and Sandy is js agreeing. What happened to the Nick who did not propose and showed up for himself? Nick V, was really pushing for them to elaborate….but again they were going in circles

[@pineappleice100]

THIS. I thought on the reunion he said he went to rehab

[@angelmushahf]

Seems like a lot of these responses are vague. I didn’t really learn anything new except that maybe Sandy did not want to do the show initially. I still think she hooked up with JR. Mainly because JR didn’t answer Nick’s question during guy’s night. If they didn’t hook up, it should have been an easy no.

[@lielaht1677]

Right.., this was an hour long podcast of nothing.they just rambled and said the same thing for an hour

[@Cherry01449]

It's a 🕳️

[@jenniferdinh4968]

Nick V. Is spot on JR acted like he owned her. Yes!!! Man I love this pod cast. I wish Nick V. Hosted the reunion. 😊

[@melissagundrum1719]

Am I the only one who saw the mic punch Nick’s mouth at the very end? 😂

[@jenniferdinh4968]

Nick your pod cast your spot on asking nick that u would go crazy as well. Nick V. Please host LIB and the U.

[@jojomara]

Are we watching the same interview? Why is everyone bagging on Sandy? Nick messed her around, was emotionally absent before the experiment, left her in mikonos and then for what sounds like the 1000th time took out his emotional disregulation out on her during the experiment. No wonder she needed a break! And the reason why sandy is being so shifty is because she's protecting him.

[@Cherry01449]

She's an adult and should have walked away 💯 since she couldn't handle being with him. Going to a show that's 50% chance to end up married....nah. She's just in it for fame. Rest is details, though she did play him bad in the show multiple times. But even a step back..she shouldn't have gone at all.

[@hopemarie4459]

I feel like people didn’t actually analyze anything They watched in this. It does feel like I watched an entirely different thing reading the comments. Also, he was inherently being a weirdo for being 11 years older than her not liking city life, and trying to take a young girl who loves city life out of the city away from friends and family, while knowing he had issues with substances at the time. just a dangerous situation to be honest, I completely understand why she wouldn’t want to go. it seemed like she was protecting him during the show with her wording, protecting him later on with her wording, and then she still is, and is still getting dogged on being called shady for not answering, and I think it’s just because the answers would make him look awful and she’s trying to be respectful.

[@hopemarie4459]

@@Cherry01449 I don’t know, I feel like there’s just a pretty big difference with that versus being with an addict who is mentally unstable. Those are like the two ultimate combos for someone who makes threats about themselves which I feel like what she was hinting to many times. toxic relationships, it’s just not that easy. There was also a pretty inherent power difference with an 11 year age gap. She’s in her 20s and he’s almost 40. Yikes. It’s important to look at the nuance in these things.

[@hopemarie4459]

@@Cherry01449 I agree she shouldn’t have gone at all, but she did say in the show that her perspective was that she was there for a break. They had just been fighting, apparently he left her in the middle of a vacation, they had been off and on and stressed, and she thought it would be a fun time and a fun experience. She did open up about that at some point. All the more reason she shouldn’t have went on the show though.

[@jojomara]

@@Cherry01449 look I don't think she should have gone either. I mean who issues an ultimatum after 9 months when you broke up 6 or 7 times? But I don't think she's on for clout, I think she just can't recognise toxic behaviour which is why she stayed involved with him for 2+ years and why she stuck up for JB too. But I don't think ANYONE could have handled Nick in that situation. That's why Vanessa left. And everyone seems to just make excuses for him.

[@keekshair]

Nick’s Uggs are the comedic relief of this episode

[@Buildindie]

Nick is the sanely codependent and exhibits major covert narc tendencies making everything about him.

[@ivapetrovska351]

it's the other way around.

[@KJ-jd5ko]

Nick sounds so compassionate towards her and takes accountability and sounds much more genuine

[@karinamobley9856]

seee when someone cheats on you it's like you feel it beyond physical... you just know

[@jessicapage4459]

They're being respectful about Nick's substance use which they should be and there is no way in H Sandy didn't have sex with JR. She was trying to look good and he was letting her. I don't think she's bad for it though. They're both good humans.

[@LovernotafighterFL]

They're both awful!!!

[@chuckschillingvideos]

@@LovernotafighterFL Yes they are. Both are liars and manipulators and arrogant sociopaths. So they are perfect for a career in the entertainment industry.

[@jocelynlincoln2330]

This circular conversation is SO annoying. This conversation revealed absolutely nothing new. Sandy and JR did more than kiss. Maybe it didn’t go all out but they definitely did more than kiss. Let’s please stop with the nonsense of “two kisses”.

[@mrsroseyp109]

They need to completely detach from each other…so they can both get to a much healthier place…but I’m not a therapist or psychologist so take that commentary with a grain of salt

[@Keeks0217]

Why did Nick just dismiss everything Sandy said the entire time. Like we get he’s on other Nick’s “side” but damn

[@jenniferdinh4968]

Its not nick fault. He didn't need to be stuck in an apartment for 3 weeks and his ex is above him in the apartment

[@kritbarnett4406]

It feels like Sandy makes situations a lot worse in her head. Saying someone is tormenting you is crazy. You can say someone is an emotional and irrational.

[@pineappleice100]

Have you been in a relationship with an addict?

[@kritbarnett4406]

@ I have been the addict. That’s why I can say confidently.. he is not an addict.

[@leeraewi]

@@kritbarnett4406 What???? I've been around a lot of addiction, and he's clearly an addict with PTSD. What would make you say he's not an addict? Also, how is making hundreds of calls to someone in a single night, as he allegedly did and does not deny, NOT harassment/tormenting? Even though Nick seems like a decent person on some levels, if I was on the receiving end of that I would be extremely emotionally distressed and concerned for my safety. He said that he didn't feel safe, so did everything in his power to make her feel unsafe. If that's not an addict, what is?

[@jenniferdinh4968]

@@pineappleice100would u be ok being thrown in an apartment by yourself for 3 weeks? I would go crazy. This was filmed in AZ so no one went to work.

[@hannahadams1207]

Don’t come on a podcast called “going deeper” if you’re just going to dance around every single question. Should be called “staying on the surface” instead. God, this interview annoyed me so much lol

[@manddray]

When you decide to do an interview but don't want to say anything

[@RougeAli]

I’m so glad I went to the comment section. I saved myself so much time not watching this video.

[@DeenaDietrich]

They didn’t open up at all. They should have told what we didn’t see rather than just keep saying you didn’t see that.

[@ClubhouseCathy]

The drugs are the Elephant in the room that they are not discussing. That's why they are 'going in circles'.😊

[@Smiley-yk7vw]

I like Nick and I like Sandy in different ways. Nick you’re a beautiful person and I hope you get the help you need to be your best self and to show up for yourself in the best way possible. Sending you so much strength ❤️

[@widowspeek6803]

I agree! Very well said ❤

[@allalala714]

Dancing around the drugs, finally mention the word drugs after an hour. Alcohol doesn't keep you awake...

[@leeraewi]

It certainly can, if you are drinking enough. Literally, just google it.

[@shimmerglittershinesparkle]

How does Sandy say that Nick was absent & not being so emotionally available and yet want to marry and settle with her at the same time? Make this Make Sense !

[@scmeron]

Am I the only one who cannot stand Nick? Him talking over her, cutting her off when she starts to say something negative towards him? It really seems like his addiction to whatever is bad & he just blames his craziness on “being an artist”.

[@hopemarie4459]

I really do think that she was trying to protect him with her answers, but he was so nervous she would slip and say something that he kept cutting her off anyways so she wouldn’t. I saw a comment saying that he is a wolf in sheep’s clothing, and I completely agree.

[@reneedennis9319]

The different energy for Nick’s arrival versus Sandy’s… Yikes!

[@trovandomimoon220]

Exactly

[@MomentsWithDess]

Nick looks fed up with Sandy. She’s not taking any accountability for anything🙄

[@karina438]

The more we talk about this…the less it makes sense 😅

[@AnnPoland]

Did they actually say anything? 1,5 hrs about literally nothing.

[@andrearamirezisabellaespin8983]

So what I’m hearing is nobody had REAL relationships coming into this season. 🧐

[@allysonreilly]

They are exhausting. This is the 1st ep I’m actually turning off.

[@christinak2443]

It’s sad that he’s so protective of her and she keeps throwing I’m under the bus.

[@ohmercymercime]

Disappointed in this interview. Can’t watch the whole thing.

[@rubycovarrubias21]

I think Nick did some really bad things and Sandy is trying to tip toe around it as much as she can bc she doesn’t want to out him.

[@ivapetrovska9986]

the opposite...she tries to make him look worse all the time

[@Stormy575]

They were approached about being on the show? That's weird

[@claudiapawlak6894]

The conversation about push & pull, is that she has two boyfriends. Did Sandy even try to sit on the couch that Nick was sleeping on. The young generation is "she can care less" . Bring down a man years ago was not accepted . A social light , where is the magnet being attracted to each other ? The maturity level in this relationship is not equal to attraction to each other . Self centered people have an unusual personality !

[@CODrama42]

Weird they think Vanessa didn’t have a right to speak on something she experienced.

[@ivapetrovska9986]

Vanessa could've talked what she experienced by Nick without disclosing the REASON for Nick's behavior, which btw was told her privately in confidence. Her actions are despicable...and she can't stop talking.....disgusting..no morals, no understanding or empathy.

[@izzysanchez2883]

Listened at 5am before this was posted! Podcast gang get it first!!

[@chuckschillingvideos]

Two despicable narcissistic sociopaths. They were perfect for each other.

[@beachhawiian]

My question is - why come on the show in the first place?! Like if you guys are breaking up multiple times just within 9 months, its probably a sign you guys need to work on things and/or break up. I dont know if they applied or the producers found them….but it seems like they are doing this for the fame and money tbh 🙃🧐

[@chelseabjohnson]

nick really dressed up for this interview with the moon boots

[@litdeb1984]

It seems like things were a lot harder than they want to share as a way to protect one another. There’s maturity in recognizing not everything needs to be shared to the world.

[@caralinebennett4652]

Sandy is a Scorpio its simple she wanted to intentionally hurt nick because he was hurting her by saying little things before going on the show about how he cant wait to have a fake wife also how he treated her. Scorpios are like silent killers and they are going to get you when you least expect it and where it hurts the most.

[@SillyLynnx3]

I was waiting to see the so called side of Sandy I would like. Didn’t see it. Nick was toxic, yes but he grew from this. She continues delusional.

[@Cherry01449]

Yeap.

[@LovernotafighterFL]

Sandy is sooo trying to get him back. She's such a pos. NOW she's trying to say they were so trusting and free with each other? Wtf ever girl

[@jenniferdinh4968]

Yes broken man. The host is spot on

[@ClubhouseCathy]

Can understand Sandy after this episode.

[@ClubhouseCathy]

And Vanessa uncovered Nick's trauma in minutes. I would have left too if i was her and he was in that condition.

[@isunshiine]

‘We had a lot of love for each other’ x 400 times. Why doesn’t he say it once 😮

[@mrsroseyp109]

I want to know what the producers knew about this situation. Why would they allow Nick to stay if the knew what was happening. They clearly allowed Vanessa to leave, probably because she said something to them and given the lawsuit that was filed…I’m sure making her stay wouldn’t help their case at all

[@pineappleice100]

What lawsuit?