Hades and Gehenna - D&D Lore

Episode 30 - Hades The Gray Waste, and the Bleak Eternity of Gehenna
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[@annie_xo]

“Everything is grey here” sounds like my hometown, Gothenburg Sweden, in the winter. Constant grey skies, fog and rain.

[@genghiskhan6809]

Sounds about right for a town name “Gothenburg”.

[@MrRoanRocks]

Haphdes And Gehephnna - The PHs are silent!

[@starsfalldown1234567]

I find his intro irritating as fuck.

[@billcox8870]

😆😆😆

[@michaelblair6365]

An earlier discussion of the Yugoloth towers actually had three towers being worked on, theoretically to give the Yugoloths greater power in the Lower Planes. Hades' and Gehenna's towers were completed. The trouble they had was that the Demodands would constantly attack the one planned in Carceri, such that the full plan was endlessly delayed.

[@lastchancesurvival]

Im running a homebrew that is carrying out a mission for the devils in the bloodwar. And this has helped me really flesh out how bleak the world is around them. Thanks for doing what u do!

[@jonathanwells223]

You know a little dark, a little gloomy and hey... Full of dead people, what are you gonna do?

[@anidiot7247]

Necromancy

[@samgardner8456]

I really do enjoy how much clarification you've brought to the planes. Now I wish you could somehow break down the map of Faerun. Because that's just as crowded and convoluted as all the planes together.

[@Jorphdan]

My next Forgotten Realms videos (after the outer planes finishes) will be on the region of Amn, hopefully I can break apart Faerun to make it a bit more understandable :)

[@catnipslip]

Ml m

[@derekburge5294]

I've been waiting all this time for Mechanus! Can't wait! You've been doing an excellent job covering the details, good sir. Thanks!

[@ShinM.]

Wow. It's cazy how much this channel has grown, yet the content and presentation is roughly the same. I'm glad that you stuck with it and hope you know all that you have accomplished in the 5 years or so since you produced this. I don't think I have to say it, but keep it up, you're doing amazing.

[@LordZeromaru]

Just a minor correction here: The Blood War wasn't ended in 4e edition. Just got staled by a 100 years (it re-started in the final books of 4e).

[@Jorphdan]

good to know thanks!

[@ks_brittain]

As a budding DM these videos have been an incredible inspiration. Thank you so much! I recommend your channel to any D&D nerd I find :)

[@drewschultz6587]

Thank you for your great videos; I've enjoyed them all since you began. Gehenna is one of my favorite places to take my players. If ever you make another video about it, make sure to include Nimicri, the mimic-moon-city.

[@Jorphdan]

Will do! Thanks!

[@trinisantana]

Drew Schultz and forgot to speak about the general of Gehenna and the tower thats made from a dead gods spine plus the fact that he creates disease with his throne pretty cool fact.

[@LordMortanius]

@@trinisantana That's the Oinoloth. The General of Gehenna has nothing to do with Khin-Oin and the Siege Malicious.

[@onelittleorange6648]

Loving these planes videos so much. Great job with them

[@Jorphdan]

thanks (:

[@nomadstan123]

Ive been running a kind of homebrewed planescape campaign and your videos have helped tremendoulsy! Thanks Jorphdan (the ph is silent)!

[@JosephHelbing]

Every one of these explanation videos have been wonderful. You really have a knack for this.

[@Jorphdan]

Thanks! It's been fun, and I'm learning so much making them =D

[@misterjoshua5720]

Another reason for the Yuggoloth to migrate to Ghenna is to ensure that they cannot be truly destroyed if killed in their holdfasts and sanctuaries there. They will reform in Hades, migrate back to Ghenna, and bolster their defences, or simply rebuild.

[@EthanGeye]

3:46 no Matt Mercer I am out

[@DeyaViews]

Good vid, but at 3:48 you say Gehenna is inhabited by Yugoloths, yet show a picture of Demodands, inhabitants of Carceri..

[@yergeoff]

great videos. concise and clear. no filler. very useful.

[@gninamah5]

Any chance we could get 1 or 2 more "Races of DnD" videos. Would love to know more about Tritons, Tabaxi, Aarokocra, Goliaths, Warforged, and the other Volo's and Ebberon Races

[@Jorphdan]

Good idea! I'll add it to my list of topics :D

[@ItMeansSun]

Hey Jorphdan (the ph is silent), been loving your lore videos - it's really been great for things I hadn't previously consider for my campaign so I thank you! I'd love it if you also added the names of new places / monsters on screen as you introduce them - would really make searching for them a lot easier! Just a thought :)

[@Jorphdan]

I add subtitles so feel free to watch with those on and you can find out how stuff is spelled. Buy yes good point I'll try to do that more in the future. 😁

[@ItMeansSun]

@@Jorphdan you legend! I just assumed the subs were going to be the usual auto generated ones - thanks for meeting me know!

[@sumanadasawijayapala5372]

I like how Hades resembles Elysium in that if you fail saving throws then you're stuck there.

[@PumpdaBrakes-ub8kp]

I am confused. How or WHY would mortals LIVE in Hades!?!? edit : Subscribed

[@Volosimbi]

colonization

[@PumpdaBrakes-ub8kp]

@@Volosimbi 🤣🤣🤣

[@brygelupin9774]

These are great, very helpful. I am going to have to watch through them all a few times to prep for my upcoming games

[@overse7938]

Both planes explained Hades-everything wants to kill you Gehhena-everything wants to kill you're bank acount

[@Hollerman]

thank you fore the next video i have been waiting all week fore it.

[@Alexrider02]

This is such a fantastic series. So many great ideas for high-level games. :D

[@rachdarastrix5251]

For those of you asking. YES. This IS where warped forests and crimson forests are found. Demonic trident pitchforks have to be shafted with something.

[@arcian2006]

as always great stuff !

[@reubenfromow4854]

What do Larva grow into? I mean, they ARE Larva, right?

[@theusfilipe]

I may be wrong, but either demons or devils, I think it depends on what plane you are on.

[@Jorphdan]

Not sure if they grow up. I couldn't find anything (doesn't mean it's not out there) but I think the larva are a reflection of the overwhelming despair of Hades. These sad helpless worm like creatures wiggling in the Gray Waste....

[@theusfilipe]

Yeah I may be wrong, I remember it very faintly from a 4e book back when I was a teen, it may be the person that eats a bunch of larva becomes a demon/devil.

[@trinisantana]

Reuben Fromow they become either demon , devil or yogoluth based on the npc or pcs alignments

[@Bfdidc]

They can become lower devils or demons, or they are stuck as larva. Larva are used as spell components or eaten as food by more powerful creatures. Night Hags are particularly known to trade in larva.

[@vaetortanner]

It says in the Monster Manual on Yugoloths that they were created in Gehenna by a sisterhood of night hags believed to be commissioned by Asmodeus, the Lord of the Nine Hells. Pg. 311 under "Spawn of Gehenna"

[@Sekhubara]

A bit of knowledge: The name Gehenna comes from the Arabic word Jahaanam, meaning Hell.

[@WhyDoesMyCodeNotCompile]

Sekhubara are there any more connections to Arabic folklore ?

[@deviousmile669]

I think all of them comes from a iteration of hell in different folklore, hades from greek, hell from giudeochristianity, carceri from the italian word for prison, abyss from...well basically every religion ever, pandemonium from greek or latin for chaos, limbo from dante's comedy etc...

[@skaetur1]

Arabic is derivative.

[@Sekhubara]

@@WhyDoesMyCodeNotCompile Genies.

[@Sekhubara]

@@fan_of_thing Ah, so it is.

[@amosericson]

Thank you Jorphdan!

[@gohantanaka]

It’s Jorfdan! I’m looking up lore for the mini campaign I’m running.

[@SparrowhawkTheKind]

Great Video! Can anyone explain the role/position of Barghests in Gehenna?

[@Babidi111]

so awesome, great job sir!

[@lionbryce10101]

2:18 nice rhyme

[@j-fallard5351]

Yay a new video!

[@kachiechan]

I thought for sure when you said "Mercy" that you were about to say "Matt Mercer" LOL

[@erikandersson906]

I tried to look up the tower arcane but I didn't find any thing about it on forgottenrealms wiki.

[@Jorphdan]

The 3.5 book Manual of the Planes (page 114) has a brief description of the Tower Arcane. www.drivethrurpg.com/product/25109/Manual-of-the-Planes-3e?term=manual+of+the+planes&test_epoch=0&it=1&affiliate_id=728035

[@davidragan9233]

Hmm...Which realm is the home of the Succubus race? Originally though it was one of these two.

[@Jorphdan]

Succubus were originally thought to be demons from the Abyss. But later thinking (i.e. 5th edition) says they are devils from the Nine Hells. In short they are fiends and apparently found all across the lower planes.

[@rachdarastrix5251]

Wait, so those larva were human beings once? Thank you. I was just about to eat one.

[@t1gert20]

Isn’t the Blood War still ongoing as revealed in Mordenkainen’s Tome of Foes?

[@evanlarson4565]

I like the creativity they put into Hades, but I think Hades pulled directly from Greek myth gets a bad wrap. Greek Hades was not only where bad people went but, also where heroes went.

[@EyalDegabli]

Great video! Hey what about the Outlands?

[@Jorphdan]

Yep I have an Outlands and Sigil video in the works!

[@totinoboy2319]

Jorphdan You should do a video on the Far Realms

[@Jorphdan]

Next weeks video will touch on the Far Realm briefly. Perhaps a more in depth video in the future. :)

[@Bliss467]

How does a town exist in hades? Wouldn't it be entirely populated by larvae?

[@whitecreamymilk8436]

the only video with 0 dislikes ever

[@ransaktehelder4260]

great videos! can you add "uploads" section to front? makes it easier to see new videos if they not showing up on my feed! cheers!

[@Jorphdan]

Good idea :) Done!

[@ransaktehelder4260]

ty!!!

[@rickifake02]

Is this meant for older editions? Because it doesn't match with the nine levels of hell present in 5e

[@Jorphdan]

Hades and Gehenna aren't the Nine Hells. Baator is the Nine Hells.

[@rickifake02]

@@Jorphdan but doesn't the blood war take place on Avernus? The next storyline is all about it

[@LordMortanius]

@@rickifake02 The Blood War rages throughout the Lower Planes. Avernus is just one of the many battlegrounds.

[@Exisist5151]

How is the death of innocence not full of larvae?

[@archam777]

How did "Asmodeus hurl the Abyss into the elemental chaos" if the planes exist via the "tree cosmology". All the upper plains are reached by the astral and all the lower plains are in the elemental chaos already?? So how does the Abyss get "hurled" to somewhere it already is.......?????? I can picture it with the great wheel cosmology, but am having trouble visualizing it when thinking about the "tree" cosmology.

[@JascDark]

Wow, Hades is just like 9 months a year in Seattle....

[@paragonexperience]

I am worried with the forgotten realms lore, I don't think it can survive on adventures alone. The books brought character to it, with adventures it feels like dry facts.

[@kingdomofhope3371]

Imagine what the real Hades is like.

[@argisus1279]

Kinda reminds me of Shadowfell but there it's more of color gets muted. (Hades I mean)

[@Breakfst4dinner]

Hades and The Shadowfel seem very similar.

[@HexaDulceLaFrance]

Well done

[@soldierofelyon6830]

Mythologically, Hades was very different... simply the afterlife, with a good area, bad area, and blah area for the mediocre. It was the only infinite and eternal plane, and Hades was a god of grim justice, punishing the wicked and rewarding the righteous (a Hoar like character). He was the introverted wanderer and watcher, not evil, but noted for being fair if hard.

[@LordMortanius]

The god Hades exists in D&D. He lives in Pluton, the third gloom, and is otherwise true to his mythological self. The catch is that Charon isn't Hades's servant but an altraloth and the Boatman of the Styx.

[@ps5056]

Yeah... Nobody knew that thanks...

[@jaredking5737]

this dude did not just say “matt mercy”

[@sneeringimperialist6667]

They used a picture of the seal of Danzelfar from season 7 of Buffy for a gate...

[@r.r815]

Great video but how can you be neutral evil?

[@Jorphdan]

Instead of Lawful evil or Chaotic evil you're in the middle, you're neutral evil.

[@andrefairbanks]

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[@brotherdylan758]

So How are these 2 places different from the nine hells?

[@Jorphdan]

They are part of the lower planes. The Nine Hells is a separate plane in the Great Wheel Cosmology. Gehenna, Hades, Carceri all separate the Nine Hells from the Abyss and are the locations the blood war is most active.

[@brotherdylan758]

@@JorphdanI know that they are different planes but like is there really anything different between those 3 and the 9 layers of hell? Are they just like "knock offs" of hell per say

[@nukerwolf7788]

The thumbnail is miss spelled it says ghenna instead of gehenna

[@Jorphdan]

Thanks!

[@LeKain08]

In Hades "everything is black, white or any shade of gray. The plane is devoid of color". Lol, so basically Gray Waste is Soviet Eastern Europe.

[@AGrayPhantom]

Geez, I feel really depressed now. These places suck.

[@TerrorBlades]

Id say the moved to avoid the demins and devils while silently controlling the conflict. But that might be old lore now :S

[@cernunnos_lives]

Hey Larvae can taste good (it's all in the sauces).

[@jprp999]

How does Asmodeus "hurl" the Abyss into the Elemental chaos? That's where it was formed in the first place...and a lot of his power is from a shard of the Abyss so it seems unlikely that he can use that against the Abyss itself, seems like D&D is suffering from the same decline in talent as Warhammer.

[@Jorphdan]

sorry he hurled the shard of pure evil into the elemental chaos, and that tore and dug down, creating the abyss.

[@jprp999]

@@Jorphdan That was Tharizdun as far as i understand it (not up on 5th ed re-writes).

[@lsb2623]

HELL YEAH!!! AAAAAAARGHH!!!

[@paryanindoeur]

Hades sounds a lot like Portland, Oregon

[@MethosJK9]

The description of Hades as a gray waste without sun or night devoid of color sounds like Ohio in February.

[@Jorphdan]

😬😬😬

[@themadmeatball]

Most planes seem repetitive to be honest.

[@johatsu553]

What is DnD

[@emjakos3548]

Dungeons and Dragons, a tabletop roleplaying game. Imagine an author telling a story, but each of the main characters has different person making their decisions.

[@stephenmartinez8772]

What is a doobly doo