1970 Plymouth Superbird - Valued below the Owner's price | The Appraiser

Episode 24:
In this episode of "The Appraiser," Colin looks over a 1970 Plymouth Superbird that, while not the top spec for the breed, still has plenty to offer any wing car enthusiast. This tasty Lemon Twist example is powered by the base 375 HP 440ci four-barrel Super Commando engine backed by the legendary 727 Torqueflight automatic transmission. It was also restored by Restorations by Julius, a well-known MOPAR restoration shop in Sunny California. Question is, does that increase the value? Tune in to find out the price of this legendary winged warrior.
This episode is presented by Hemmings: (www.hemmings.com)
Chapters:
0:00 Intro
1:13 Background
2:26 Quick facts
3:11 Initial thoughts
4:05 Walkaround
4:55 Engine
6:45 Interior
7:20 Start up
8:00 Trunk
9:00 Loss in value
9:41 Owner's price
10:34 Colin's Price
11:26 Outro
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[@mw4992]

Funny thing is, while $20K difference is some people’s entire budget (like me LOL), on a car like this we’re only talking about a 10% difference between the owner and appraiser. Not enough to get upset over in my book.

[@karenthomson9749]

Within the margin of error of the appraisal.

[@andrew_owens7680]

That happened to me on my aircraft carrier. I was off by $100 million, but didn't sweat it.

[@jamesdellaneve9005]

@@andrew_owens7680Perfect.

[@nboddie1036]

Nothing is worth any more than someone is willing to pay for it. By that I mean this car is worth what a buyer will pay for it. If the right person with the money wants the car, they'll pay what it costs to buy it. The difference in what the owner thinks and what the appraiser thinks is small as you noted. 6 months from now everything could be different...

[@jboreal7982]

Correct, I was ready to go ghetto on “Haggerty” whoever he is; if he went total low ball. Screw Haggerty, look Chris … come and find me a Superbird in any condition within 500 miles of my location, all of ‘‘em are gonna be worth mucho coin. You did well, you’ll get your 250k just be patient.

[@ACommenterOnYouTube]

Appraisal means nothing. Its worth whatever a buyer is willing to pay for it

[@redzone5655]

Which is a very good point! It doesnt matter either what the owner thinks it is the price… utterly if you want to sell, the market will tell you the price… whether it is above o bellow expectations, that is something emotional.

[@dan3162]

100%, the idea of chasing hard numbers in appraisals works only for insurance not actual sales, especially with unique cars.

[@dezznutz3743]

True, but an Appraisal gives you a baseline to work from. Im sure if someone really wanted it he could get $225-250K easy. As you said, it definitely depends on the buyer.

[@bernardowens1648]

@dezz nutz if it's optioned correctly, i.e. engine and trans. This one doesn't have a hemi which drives the price down.

[@gsc512]

Actually it's what the insurance is willing to pay as well so it's not completely worth less So unless you have a policy, that's one of those agreed upon sums which is generally more expensive. They'll usually only pay what the appraisal says it's worth.

[@TheDwightMamba]

I couldn't be happier to see the car prices starting to take a dive again.

[@karenthomson9749]

100% it’s great and there’s a long way to go!

[@paulyarlett1238]

As a brit I never got the road runner a big car with poor handling and a big engine with such small power but such a big following.

[@user-qr7ee2cp4y]

Only 375 HP, drum brakes and manual steering ain't worth quite as much as it used to be......

[@theglitch99]

The car market new and used has been ridiculous?? Any type of normality would be nice as a buyer anyways!

[@MustangsTrainsMowers]

Like the Foxbody Mustangs.

[@kenbrueger1648]

Super glad to hear this, for too long guys think their car is worth a million dollars after thry bought it for 2500 in the 80s. And they wonder why younger generations went to JDM cars so hard

[@American-Motors-Corporation]

Yeah you know actually I can agree with that point but at the same time the reason why a lot of these guys were thinking along those lines is because well at one point you really could command those prices!

[@evwhizz]

Huh?? What guys?

[@jameslucas3161]

You clearly haven't kept tabs on JDM prices in the past couple of years...

[@johnsiorek1630]

If youre thinking performance, I can buy a nice 2000s 911 for under 20k. Cant spend house-kind of money on a bang it around car. Car collecting is not car driving. Too many trophy cars around

[@stuffhappens5681]

There’s a hierarchy with JDM cars too. Have you seen Supra prices? Skylines? Toyota 2000 GTs? 240Zs and RX7s are climbing. Honda CB 750, Kawasaki Z1s and H1, H2s. The so-called “younger generations” (who aren’t THAT young anymore) are emulating their older generation counterparts. So stop throwing shade on old guys. They didn’t corner the market on desirability.

[@davidbeattie4294]

A presale valuation is a highly educated guess. The value is what someone will actually pay on a given day and both gentlemen agree on that. Regardless of the price its a great looking car and I'm sure is a blast to drive.

[@kevinrice7635]

Yep

[@NishantCharles]

Why it would be a blast to drive? Was it made my a muslim?

[@theoriginalmungaman]

His valuation is based on recent sales, more accurate than not!

[@r5t6y7u8]

That's the sad part. You wouldn't dare drive that thing on the open road. Imagine getting T-boned by some clown at an intersection.

[@kevinrice7635]

@@r5t6y7u8 probably illegal immigrant with nuffin but a Biden pass.

[@retirednavy8720]

I graduated from HS in 1980. Back then you could buy that car for less than $20K. But $20K was a pretty good pile of $$$ then. When I started driving there were a lot of muscle cars around with the big block V-8s and people didn't want them because of the recent gas embargo by OPEC. So the high school kids drove them and burned them up. The parking lot of my HS was full of Chevelle's, Chargers, Firebirds, Chargers, RoadRunners etc... I wish I'd bought a dozen of those cars and put them in storage.

[@fotogmike9695]

1980? Way less than $20K. I bought one for $6300 with only 25,000 miles because of the gas shortages. Just like the one in this video except it's orange.

[@davidchristensen2970]

@@fotogmike9695 True that! I passed on a very nice Superbird for $8500 in 1987. Admittedly, that was a fair chunk of cash back then.

[@johnlafever3162]

I'm guessing there was a double dose of Chargers then?

[@pdiz]

@@fotogmike9695 In the late '80s/early '90s, my best friend's neighbor had one in their backyard just parked, and we were always into Mopars, so when he told me, I was like, Whaaaat? No way! But it was true! But the guy wanted like $4K for it, and we totally dismissed it because we were just kids in their '20s and to us, even $500 was a lot of money, so we never thought about it again, but looking back, dammit, I wish we had $4K, but then again, being kids, we probably would have treated it like the kids we were (hammered in the wheel lips to fit N-50 tires, put a Grant wheel on it, slammed the front by loosening the torsion bars, all that nonsense). Ah well. It's another "the one that got away" type story...

[@mitchhedberg4415]

Or you could have invested in the stock market and have 5 million dollars, and rent out your garage.

[@moodberry]

I had this same color Superbird in 1975. Bought it used for $1,800. Nobody wanted one then. Sure wish I still had it!

[@email4664]

We would do donuts around the gas pumps at the Unocal 76 on Ortega Hwy on the graveyard shifts in my buddy's Superbird. It was a bit haggard, but was a heck of a lot of fun

[@vettekid3326]

The reason why they were so hard to get rid of when they were new was the insurance companies were charging ridiculous premiums to insure them. of course some of it was justified because early on any frontal collision would damage the nose which was essentially hand made and expensive to replace. Along with that and they feared anyone buying one would either race it on the track or the street.

[@cammontreuil7509]

No. It was they won't fit in a parking lot.

[@DeusTex-Mex]

they were also pretty obnoxious looking, and both then and today they were considered tacky.

[@cammontreuil7509]

@@DeusTex-Mex tacky. Old school word.

[@bfc3057]

They didn't understand what a corner was. They were also described as "dangerous at any speed" at the time by Ralph Nader. That was before Nader went conspiracy mad.

[@mrkmh1]

No, when they were new few people wanted them. They were not popular at all. Ugly damn things I would still be embarrassed to own one especially at what they sell for now.

[@nachtjager77]

These things are gonna' go nowhere but down. The entire muscle car hobby is aging out. I'm 58 and I'm at the younger end of the hobby. I've owned Superbirds, Daytonas, a Hemi Charger, a Shaker Hood 440 'Cuda, quite a lot of muscle Mopars. Same thing is going to happen to these as happened to big dog classic prewar cars - the hobby aged out of them. When I was a teenager, I drove Road Runners and 'Cudas to my job restoring Pierce-Arrows, Packards, Cords, and a host of other major cars for a local very wealthy collector who had 72 cars. I now own a '29 Packard Club Sedan with all its original paperwork and a very interesting history, it was a ground-up restoration on a 29,000 mile car 20 years ago, and I paid less for it than it would have cost back in the early 1980s. I guarantee, it cost three times what I paid for it to restore it in 1999/2000. I'm still heavily involved in old Mopar restorations, I caution people all the time, buy these cars with your heart, not your head, because in the next decade, they are going to nose dive in value - the average muscle car enthusiast is 65-75 years old. In ten years, they're not going to be that worried about the cars, they're going to be more concerned about their kidneys functioning.

[@r5t6y7u8]

Sorry to say, but I hope you're right. I'm 55 and would love to get a classic car but finances won't allow it. There are several articles out there saying America's love affair with the car is starting to weaken. Millions today, especially in the city, would rather call an Uber a few times a week than pay $30K for a car plus insurance plus gas plus repairs. Many more kids today are home staring at screens than out cruising the strip.

[@chimrichalds5205]

Absolutely correct. Boomers are too old or out of money and no one else really desires these or even anything pre 1980s or so. 200 grand for a car like this doesn't add up; this particular market just doesn't have the rampant speculation to support the massively inflated prices. I wouldn't be surprised if this is $40k in 15 years.

[@briankendallRyanandBrian]

@@chimrichalds5205 40k for a restored a superbird in a couple years, dude what the hell are you smoking? spit my coffee out laughing when I read this....

[@gordocarbo]

@@briankendallRyanandBrian Theres a lot of 80s/90s street rods that are now priced pretty well...back then were 70, some over 100k. Has to be a demand. Most young people love new stuff.... To go backwards for them makes no sense .Tougher to drive worse mpg few or no creature comforts and didnt grow up wiht them Ill be dead by the time they get super affordable but I believe old cars are SO grossly overinflated its not even funny

[@briankendallRyanandBrian]

@@gordocarbo best buy yourself a 120k brand new half ton truck, lets compare value in 10 years lol....

[@joecummings1260]

I bought a wrecked 440 six pack Roadrunner when I was 17 in 78. I forget how much I paid, but it was the kind of money a 17 year old working in a garage would have. It was hit hard in the back, but with what I know now it was fixable. I stripped it for parts for a roadrunner I had that was a 383 car to build a clone. I scrapped what was left of the original 440 six pack car with the title. Later on I sold the clone I built to buy a 10 wheel dump truck. If you think that was bad, around the same time my buddy bought a Yenko 427 Nova with a blown up engine. We didn't even know what a Yenko was then. I remember him tearing off the Yenko decals because he didn't like them. Long story short, it ended up in his barn that then leaked in it for like 15 years or so. Then he came around and was telling us some "nut" gave him 3,000 for that old rusted out nova in his barn. A few months later he got educated and to this day if someone brings it up he leaves and goes home without saying a word

[@AVB2]

As a friend of mine used to say beauty is in the eyes of the checkbook holder. Looking at this car I can easily see that Julius is a perfectionist.

[@daphnebenjamins]

Interesting to hear what they look at in the appraisal at Hagerty. Nicely restored by Julius.

[@kaptkrunchfpv]

When it comes to these cars, beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I just want my 66 Mustang back.

[@robj2704]

Had a 66 Mustang fastback 2+2 in the early 70's. Would be nice to have now. I've been thru so many cars in my lifetime not sure I could list them all, and my age (77) would also limit my list. Now have a hybrid Honda and a C-6 Corvette, so I'm satisfied with my current inventory.

[@wesdoobner7521]

exactly, that's why nothing beats a 79 Trans Am to me.

[@mitchhedberg4415]

It rusted away in 1975

[@ItsAlwaysHappyHour]

Aussie here.... that's a cool looking car. It reminds me of the sort of Hot Wheels vehicle I would have been stoked to receive as a kid.

[@dainsmart6237]

Hay upside down guy i had it in hot wheels to

[@craigpennington1251]

Totally Insane pricing on these. All of them matter of fact really. I wish I would've kept all those muscle cars I had back then.

[@davebrittain9216]

Mopars are getting a bit of a market correction. They were sky high for so long. My buddy has a one of one factory Daytona Modtop. The only modtop Daytona made and it was an SE car as well. A very hard car to appraise as there is nothing to compare it to.

[@timhinchcliffe5372]

Sell it to Leno.

[@charlesvan13]

It might have to do with the price of gas doubling.

[@jasonrackawack9369]

Its cool cause its rare and factory built...... but myself Id expect a big discount for having a floral vinyl table cloth glued to the roof of a daytona LOL

[@davebrittain9216]

@@jasonrackawack9369 Ya I know what you mean, that pattern is hideous.

[@pennywise8182]

My dad used to drive one of these to work in the late "70s...He bought it as a winter beater......It had a trailer hitch on it and he would pull me and my friends behind it in the snow with a rope.😭😭😭..It was just a regular 440,4bbl,automatic,black bench seat....It was orange.He junked it out after the frame rails got pretty thin....He sold the engine and tranny to some guy who put them in a "race car".My dad still has the hood hanging on his garage wall to this day and the A pillar chrome laying around somewhere...Good vid.👍👍👍

[@scottnelson1713]

Thanks for bringing back some memories. A friend of mine had a 4-speed Hemi Superbird back in high school. He did all of the stupid teenager stuff to it back then that would have reduced the value. It's nice seeing you go over this car and seeing all of the parts of it as I remember them.

[@mwilliamshs]

Who was it, the high school kid, that owned a million dollar car? A running Hemi 4 speed combo has never been cheap, even when Superbirds were undesirable. What high school kid drives a 20' long, 5' tall car that gets 12 mpg at best?

[@scottnelson1713]

@@mwilliamshs In 1970 a used one was under $3500. And gas was under 30 cents a gallon. It was a long time ago.

[@mwilliamshs]

@@scottnelson1713 a used 1970 superbird in 1970 would be unusual. A used hemi 4 speed car insured by a high school would never cheap. A daily driven hemi car would never cheap to maintain. How many 1970 hemi 4 speed superbirds were made?

[@dominiccassella1887]

I neither want to cause a ruckus nor call the veracity of anyone’s comments into question. I have personally owned: 1972 302 Ford Maverick Grabber, 1978 Dodge Little Red Express Truck, 1986 Ford Mustang GT (triple black) Convertible. All were OEM equipped and unadulterated- except for the Grabber b/c my father in law thought it would be a good idea to remove the decals and add a manual sunroof. All were purchased used and the total for all three was less than 15K. Assuming all survived and were in similar condition as when I sold them, what would the current market value be? In addition, my HS friend/neighbor owned a 340 Dodge Dart and a 383 Plymouth Roadrunner. If memory serves me correctly, the combined total sale price for both was less than $1K. Both were complete cars in fair condition and this was in the mid 1970’s. Lastly, my cousin owned a brand new GTO JUDGE, I don’t recall the year and my stepbrother bought a brand new Mustang Mach1 after his discharge from Viet Nam - possibly 68/69? My point being is that we were all of modest means but still owned vehicles that were not outrageously priced during that time period but might be highly value in today’s market.

[@gordocarbo]

@@mwilliamshs Every highschooler that could buy one did.

[@rayr4320]

That restoration for a superbird having original engine block is top notch....period.

[@andygonzales7380]

I thought the appraiser was spot on. It's a beautiful car. The owner should be proud of having a beauty like this in his garage. 😎

[@claysmell]

back in the late 70's in our neighborhood there were a couple of red/orange superbirds, one of which was the poorer of the 2, owned by someone who lived on "the wrong side of the tracks". rumor was it had a 340 with an automatic, which of course makes no sense from a factory perspective. up until several years ago, I held out the possibility that there may have been a one off created as some kind of exception at the factory for one reason or another. given who owned it and where, it's possible someone could have replaced the 440 with a 340 for whatever reason. the only thing I regret is not tracking the guy down and making him an offer. even in beat up shape, that thing turned heads and would have been a blast to drive.

[@davidrabenius726]

In 1970 when I was 11 years old the local dealer had 2 of these on the lot. One was Yellow and the other one was Brownish like color. I was blown away with the rear wing and I asked my father if we could stop by and look at it. My father looks at me like I was crazy and says "I wouldn't be caught dead in that car". Needless to say we didn't stop and check them out! About 12 years later we had moved to Arizona and my Uncle came down for the Barret Jackson auction. Back then it was in a parking lot and 1\20th of todays "experience". The rage back then was the Shelby 427 Cobra roadster. While walking into the auction there was 2 entering the auction. The side pipes were making the coolest lump-de lump noise and I said to my father "You should buy one of these cars and sit on it for a year, you would make a pretty profit from the sale. He looks at me and says " I wouldn't give $2,500 for that piece of....." I responded that the car was appreciating about $10,000 PER MONTH!! Went back the next year and sure enough the same cars were bringing $250,000 or $70,000 more than the previous year. Back then a Mercedes Gullwing was $90,000, Jag XKE Convertibles were $25,000, 1963 Split window Vettes were $15,000. My uncle was a Lagonda collector and had 2. One was pulled from a field in Singapore. He used to race it on Sundays around the local town. One was a racer and the other was a sedan. To say Cars have been a huge influence would be an understatement.

[@Loulovesspeed]

@David Rabenius - With all due respect for your Dad, he clearly didn't know squat about collector car values!

[@benjaminbarrera214]

Sounds like he cared more about cars than he did about money. Some people are weird that way.

[@user-zf3xb3qx8w]

@@Loulovesspeed Or he was like my dad and uncle: Oldsmobiles on the way to arrive. Even after he had two million in cash and closed his shop, he restored two big block Olds. and they're not worth 10% what any of these other cars are worth. So we're keeping them: Olds 98's big blocks, as new. And we drive them. Tight engines actually get pretty good gas mileage.

[@RidersInBlack]

Not only do we need to see more of these videos, we need to see more of these cars, and we need to see the glory of our yesteryear restored. EV vehicles are going to take over the internal combustion engine, and these beautiful examples will be even rarer to see and hear . Keep up the great work

[@TheBandit7613]

Gonna be 30 to 50 years before EV takes over. The elephant in the room is mining production and energy generation. We will need @ double the power generating capacity to allow 150,000,000 people to get home from work and plug in their 240 volt, 50 amp car charger.

[@minnesotatomcat]

I respect the cars and owners that have went all the way and done a full nut and bolt restoration with all the correct everything with factory markings and all that so it looks like it just came from the factory. Having said that, in my opinion doing all that makes the car undriveable as it’s more of an expensive decoration than a car. Those cars were meant to be bought by everyday people to have fun with. I’d rather have a non numbers matching car that still looks good but not too good that you’re not afraid to enjoy it.

[@1royalpalm]

I was in the navy stationed in Charleston, S.C., when I saw my first 1970 Superbird (brand new) sitting on a Plymouth dealer's lot. I was driving a stripped down 1969 Dodge Dart 340 Swinger I had bought in July of 1969 for $2,700. As I recall, the Superbird had a window sticker of around $4,500 (do not recall engine option and transmission). No way could I have afforded a car like that on my E-5 navy pay. But if I could have drove that car off the lot, I think I would have felt like king of Rt. 52 and I-26 (where I did a lot of street racing with my 340 Swinger). I was amazed at how the super cars were getting more and more power each year, spoilers, graphics, etc. I thought it was going to go on and on. Wrong! Then in 1971 Ford and GM started dropping engine compression, retarding camshaft and ignition timing, etc. (Mopar got in another year [1971] before they started cutting back performance. But as luck would have it, I had no idea we would have such powerful street cars like we have today.

[@Zebra_3]

I read these kind of muscle cars used would go for as low as $500 during the so-called energy crisis of the 1970s, sitting on a used car lot for well over a year.

[@haroldmordt4421]

Had a chance to buy an identical Superbird in 1985 for $10k! Car was in Aragon ,Ga. and was sitting off the side of a garage with no cover with about 7700 actual miles. All it need was a repaint.I couldnt raise the money at the time.Found out about 2 yrs. later Tim Wellborn had bought the car and restored it.Coulda , woulda, shoulda!

[@BurtSampson]

This guy has a good collection going on.

[@nvrndingsmmr]

I think we all would of we had that kind of money lol

[@email4664]

This is a storage facility in LA that rents out spaces to collectors that don't have secure parking at home

[@nvrndingsmmr]

@@email4664 That's fascinating, and explains everything!

[@rickintexas1584]

Beautiful car. I have always loved these winged cars.

[@LBS-qw8gf]

Its not just that. The main reason they were high on insurance is because they were the 1st production car to hit 200 mph. The insurance companies knew this. Thats why insurance is not cheap on theses gems of the past. Back in the day they were cheap to buy but the insurance was too high. The dealer blamed it on the looks of the car but thats not true. Most people would love too own this car. I know i would. There was also a special edition Camaro in 69. It had alot of hp. Very expensive for insurance. But if i could afford it i would put in in storage because it is a gem. 😮

[@kevinpatrick8788]

The winged cars indeed hit 200 mph but those were the nascar versions. The production ones off the assembly line you would be lucky to get 130 mph out of them .

[@Socialpsychotics]

Glad to have a long burning question answered about the horn. Thank you.

[@gregfair1749]

I absolutely love Superbirds!!! It's my #2 all time favorite Mopar!!! My #1 is the 69 Dodge Charger Daytona!!! I would be beyond over the moon to get either one though!!!! They are just a sweet sight!!!!

[@gsmith207]

Nailed it CC. Cool car, and a driver.

[@normp3273]

The car is worth what someone is willing to pay for it. The valuation might not be what the owner thought it would be, but I'm guessing he can still get the 225K number.

[@firstsgt279]

Lot times depends on Seller is willing hold out for the price. I've watched at least dozen Muscle Cars for sale 2-3yrs until got the desired price

[@danielmarek4609]

Seeing the pop up about the Superbird Daytona club, I know who started it and recall seeing their driveway loaded with Superbirds and a Daytona in their garage (about a mile from where I live). Today they don't have as many as they once did back in the 80's.

[@marvinalancornell8275]

Daniel Marek, who might that be my friend, if you don't mind me asking?

[@IHWKR]

I keep looking at that F40 stowed away🤗

[@THROTTLEPOWER]

Have always liked the High Wing cars! 👍👍

[@kriseckhardt5148]

My 71 Plymouth Cuda 340 was all original with all the options. The little old guy who ordered it wanted columb shift and bench seats!

[@bman99ss]

But it's still a 'Cuda! My '71 Roadrunner was a column shift, bench seat, open rear-end car . . .

[@BLACKWOLF-1911]

I had a 70 cuda, the car was beautiful but. The guy apparently blew the 440 4 spd and put in a automatic 318!

[@fotogmike9695]

Standard equipment, even on a 'Cuda. Plymouths were supposed to be more affordable, so they had more basic features compared to a Dodge. I remember seeing a 1970 Hemi Cuda for sale and it had a bench seat, column automatic, and basic instrument cluster.

[@neverspreadjamonabadjer8459]

Thanks. Super informative. Would absolutely love to own a Plymouth Superbird!

[@karenthomson9749]

200k usd no thanks

[@teddyshepherd2854]

My first new car was a 69-383. When they brought out the Superbird in 70, god did I want one those. Would still love to own either of them today. Can you grasp that I was driving the wheels of the thing 54 years ago, never for a moment thinking that I was driving a future classic. What a great era 68/70 was and to expedience it as a mad as brush 21 year old. Would love to revisit the States/Canada and rattle one of those down the road once again.

[@davidwright873]

Back in 1978, when i was thirteen, a dude took me for some doughnuts in a Superbird...He really loved that car and since i was on break...why not....We did doughnuts on a dirt lot! I didn't think much of it them but now? wow! what an experience!..I told him it reminded me of the batmobile...Little did i Know....Hell, i was 13 for gaudsake! (Outside Los Aguirre's Mexican Rest. South Lake Tahoe, circa 1978)

[@geneva760]

What a NEATO car - and as the owner mentioned - they had trouble selling them back when new. Nice color - and the owner seems to have a nice usable car on his hands - lucky guy and great to see his smile he get from his car. CHEERS from AUSTRALIA (HA - where a SUPERBIRD would not fit in the average suburban carparking space - HA).

[@rnt45t1]

I'd love to visit that garage!

[@jimcockburn4652]

Gorgeous Superbird, he got you on a couple minor technical issues but personally I love it. Drive the wheels off it, it is perfect like it is.

[@Thecarexchangepodcast]

We need to see more of these videos

[@saxongreen78]

The appraiser mentioned Mopar taxicabs...when you consider what you are getting for your money with this Superbird, a 4-door 1970 Coronet with a 440 actually looks mighty attractive. (A Slant would be even less outlay...probably under $10K for a driver quality machine.)

[@johndodge2188]

Good show and information

[@thomasgartman4025]

I always thought the Superbirds had a non-adjustable wing. That wing looked like it had the lock hole like a Daytona. Sweet ride. I'm mighty jealous.

[@rhtball]

We had the 70 Super B, with pistol grip Shift, 383 Mangum and the hood scoops for induction.....Awesome car.....

[@leroywatermelon4025]

I never met a man who didn't grind going into 3rd gear on a pistol grip.

[@bricksalive4735]

This is amazing. Great cars, and I love the first one. (Sorry I can’t name them, although names are mentioned, I don’t have that much knowledge on cars.)

[@brianhall8097]

Those are real classics not many cars nowadays will ever appreciate in value like the Superbird and other classic cars of that time those were real muscle cars💪

[@sunnohh]

Once the boomers die I am not buying one

[@WarriorsPhoto]

That’s a beautiful car. I wouldn’t own a car like that but hopefully someone will give this gentleman $200,000 for it. (:

[@evwhizz]

Chris, you have an awesome car! She is a head turner for sure!

[@bfc3057]

Just not a corner turner

[@mitchhedberg4415]

People used to just laugh at them

[@benlecluyse]

Amazing car !!

[@cristalmala]

You have a fantastic car! She certainly attracts attention!

[@michaelmachado2572]

He’s still got a fantastic car no matter what the price. It’ll always be an investment.

[@jlacson74]

Now I am going to look up this Julius fella.

[@mycowboyways915]

If you get two guys bidding and both really want that car, you will hit your number. There are people out there with crazy money. Price isn't an object.

[@cuda426hemi]

I distinctly remember a beige Superbird at local Concord MA dealership back in the day so I dunno about that "only" colors bit. I told the dealer I would be back in 2 years to buy it if they didn't move it -dealer dude said a lot of looks zero buyers, it wasn't going anywhere. A few dealers cut 'em up to make sell-able Belvederes out of them. I was 17. I ended up getting the 'Cuda instead, lol. 👀

[@ahmaddhdo8023]

Well done my friend very beautiful

[@jonS-42]

Beautiful car

[@Friedbrain11]

I love the Superbird! I would want a 4 speed with a 440 6 pack, though not an automatic.

[@charliewilson3528]

I like the 440 4 barrel. You could beat on that drive train all day and hurt it. I've seen high school kids do it. Twas a new car though. Cool car.

[@marvinalancornell8275]

Charlie Wilson, I think you forgot the word "NOT" between and...and.... hurt it....

[@davesrvchannel4717]

Number 2 condition?!?!If the scale goes from 1-5, which is generally what I see in price guides, how can this not be a 1? If this is a 2, then what’s a 3,4,5? For this car to be this perfect and restored from reputable source, I’m really struggling to see how we can have only 5 number system. My cars wouldn’t make 5th condition

[@bmstylee]

It's like in anything collectable. Tiny details make the difference. Some of the parts used in the restoration might be aftermarket replacement and not original or new old stock. That makes a difference. Look at other collectables. The difference in a mint state 65 and 70 coin van be huge. Same with a 90% vs 95% in firearms. At the top of the scale little things can add up.

[@email4664]

If it had the correct glass, and NO reproduction parts at all, then it could be considered for #1 car grading.

[@harvyss136]

As my Grandpa use to tell me "boy, beauty is in the eye of the beer holder". And I'm drinkin' beer right now and she's a beautiful girl! Love that car.

[@davidrobertson5700]

Beautiful car, and the same colour as Pikachu. I want one

[@ScarlettFire341]

At 16 years old I took my Drivers Lessons (1972) in an Orange 70 Superbird 440 4 bbl Automatic with bucket seats, it was a promo car for Ringers Auto School in Saugus MA - car was really ratty and ran crappy until the the revs were up and the 4 bbl opened lol

[@The_R-n-I_Guy]

I don't know that I would want a Superbird or Daytona. But I would definitely like to have a Mopar from that era

[@BLACKWOLF-1911]

200,00 is where they were 20yrs ago. It's good to see the prices on the way down. A convertible 1970 with a hemi 4spd used to be 55,000, now 135,000 to 1.? Million.

[@justmechanicthings]

Classic cars are like fine art, you're not paying for the paint, you're paying for the legacy

[@kwenger7088]

My dream car!

[@lkmsl]

Hey the owner is cute as heck with or without the roadrunner !!!

[@RecoveryRoomRestorations]

FYI...my 70 Roadrunner has the secondary VIN stamped on the core support facing the engine, not on the flat side...

[@rickuyeda4818]

There are Car Guys who work on cars and Check Book writers like this guy.

[@davidbarnsley8486]

I think it is a very good driver for 200 to 250 I wouldn’t mind a 440 auto Can cruise all day in that one 👍👍

[@PlymouthVT]

Like Chris said the value is in the eye of the beholder. I would have guessed its worth at least $350,000 as the restoration is top notch and the paint is beautiful. If you drove that car you I bet you would agree. Great show nonetheless.

[@TheBandit7613]

I almost bought one. I guessed 220.

[@chillwill5080]

There's a lot of dudes with HUGE car collections that are on borrowed time, the market will be flooded with these museum pieces as more boomers kick the bucket. Coupled with new generations and new technology cars that leave these in the dust, I would expect much more selection and price coming from families that did not share the passion but do want some fast money and be done with it.

[@VirtualGuth]

I always enjoy this series, in particular for the variety of vehicles featured. Out of curiosity, how hard is it to determine that a fender tag such as this one is truly original and not a reproduction?

[@burtonporter8437]

I’m spitballing here. He probably can’t verify it

[@twiztid6977420]

Have Philly cheese steak or Mark Worman verify it

[@hphpackardlowrey2776]

First: lettering is raised not punched in, which is harder to fake. Second, when you see enough you can tell the font and spacing is correct. A fake one could fool a cop but it would be very difficult to fool an enthusiast.

[@VirtualGuth]

@@hphpackardlowrey2776 That's why I asked, because in this day and age, none of that sounds too terribly difficult to replicate.

[@hphpackardlowrey2776]

@@VirtualGuth OK how would you do it to match perfectly then

[@Mooseracks]

I found two 1970s dodge hemi engines... I was supposed to get a finders bonus....but you know how that story goes...NOW I know how to play the game a lot better...

[@jonthomsen7433]

I wish I still had my old mopars. I was in my teens I'm 34 now when those cars could still be bought for a reasonable price. My 68 charger from the original owners father, sticker price 3300 dollars is what he sold it to me. My 67 273 barracuda fastback automatic 2000, my 68 dart gts original 350 4 speed car (383 auto swap) was 3k from mopar mike. now their so out of touch. I've always wanted a winged warrior.

[@michaelcowan6254]

I have seen these sitting on the dealership lots unsold in 1971. I thought they looked awesome, but I was 16 years old at the time.

[@9ZERO6]

What trips me out the most? I have that exact same Kuhl shirt Colin is wearing.

[@cobracolin]

Clearly you are a man of impeccable taste.

[@edjonatchick]

Nice guy. It's always hard hearing the bad news that your car or whatever isn't worth what you think it is in the current market. It seems like the market is dropping on quite a few non necessities, the common mistake is chasing the market from what it used to be.

[@okhotrodder]

A car is worth what someone will give for it. I don't put much confidence in appraisals. Every one I've had has been way off, on the low side. Today it's worth x, tomorrow it's worth xx, and next year it could be worth xxx. Then, after that, it could drop like a rock. Everyone wants the highest appraisal. I think I'll just pass everything down to my kids and let them worry about it. No point in selling something for less than you gave for it, especially when you gave half what it cost today to buy it.

[@N-Scale]

I think it is still a really nice car !!!

[@dynodon100]

I have a collector car also. Not that old but not many made, a 1990 1LE-IROC-Z , no air or radio, manual windows and door locks. Has an alum driveshaft from the factory. With 6.3 miles on the od.

[@dewfall56]

The six barrel 440 was more powerful, but weren’t they very hard to keep tuned and balanced? Wouldn’t the single four make a far more enjoyable non-race, show car because it was so much easier to start and keep tuned?

[@peterlewis3540]

Their rare cars, and having one in this kind of condition, original engine, beautifully restored, with no silly modifications. In the right dealership, with the right customer, $240k is possible. as the car is in almost perfect condition, and its not easy to obtain one in such good condition. Forget the auction prices, and current market value, if a customer wants a car in this kind of condition, they may well step up to the $240k valuation.

[@donnovicki4104]

Funny thing, when I was young and foolish we used to go to NY state from Pa to drink because the drinking age in NY was 18 at the time and 21 in Pa. We would drive past this little Dodge dealer in the town of Westfield NY (pop 4500 ) and they had 3 of these things on their lot. They sat there for 2-3 years unsold until one day they were all gone. If I had known then what I know now I would have bought all 3 and put them away for posterity....

[@KRich408]

I Had a 1970 Dodge Coronet 500 , it's was actually my second one the first was a 1970 Coronet 440. I loved the 500 with its factory Bucket seats and console shift. It looked exactly the same as this super bird. They were all the same Unibody cars that were built like tanks compared to the junk today , so well that I was sitting at a light when a person That had a few too many rear ended me!! He hit me so hard I was pushed 15' forward. When I got out to look all I saw was how messed up his Newer 1979 Buick was destroyed!!! Now I had Cragars 50 on the back because of the air shocks so the tires would clear, his heavy chrome bumper went under my bumper my bumper went through his radiator and caught the water pump, this then lifted his engine off the Mounts!! I didn't see that back of my car yet I was still walking back. But I can say I saw RED ! I wanted to catch a charge I was sure my car was destroyed!!! But nope that unibody held up, all he did to me was break an exhaust hanger and put a 1/4" hole in the gas tank . When the cops got there they didn't believe I took that hit by myself, they swore one of us was protecting a third driver's vehicle in the middle . Fortunately a family was sitting on their porch that saw everything! I was never in trouble since I was at the front of the wreck. But the guy who did hit me tried to say I backed up with enough force to destroy his car lol I was 15' past the stop line. This guy had way to many but he didn't get in any trouble for it because back in the 80s you didn't wear a seatbelt and open containers were legal, they rarely arrested people for being under the influence. I had some epoxy in the trunk I put a temporary patch on the Tank and went home after the fire department said I wasn't leaking fuel anymore. They would have Towed it if I didn't fix the leak. I will never forget that day . The frame was not tweaked in any way . Even my 2012 Ram 2509 wouldn't hold up like that . And it's got a full frame to hold the enormous Cummins Diesel in it. I wish I could find another 1970 Coronet 500 it's one year front bumper made it look aggressive like 2 eyes staring you down! Can you imagine putting a Cummins in this car? Not a stock Cummins but a fully deleted with as much of a Tune that it could handle. The delete would be legal since they go by the year of the Vehicle, emissions were really simple back then a charcoal canister and a simple EGR easy to delete. It might need the Unibody to be tied together so that torque doesn't twist the old dodge into a pretzel stick. Sorry for the long comment I really Miss that car. I'm looking but can't find a good stock Coronet that's not rotted out. One day I hope. Oh yeah the only issue with these cars and any Mopar was the front suspension they just didn't hold up then or today. One would think Mopar would have figured this out after all this time! Makes you wonder if they still have the same engineer designing the front ends ? Come on Dodge there was no excuse for the Death Wobble in your trucks .

[@PaintitBlackRs3]

Why wouldn’t the super birds in particular not have the secondary vin on the radiator support? It’s a roadrunner as you know and the rad supports we’re not altered during conversion. This leads me to believe that this front rad support was replaced. Usually I’d move the vin over from the old support but they didn’t feel the need to or were not able to.

[@gs6810]

Ever drive one of these old cars? It's awful and terrifying in just about every way. Modern cars are amazing. This thing belongs in a museum.

[@clayz1]

Sure sounds good.

[@starkparker16]

That's an awesome car. I'd love to buy one but I only use cars for toting bodies and grocery runs.

[@grantr5417]

A b-body trunk is perfect 👌

[@tommcclintock1786]

What is the little red car stored beneath the blue Viper?

[@mikemckenzie3197]

I looked at a yellow Superbird just like this one for sale in 1986 setting at McDonald's in Talladega AL. Asking price was. $ 2500. I should have bought it :-(

[@stephenhenion8304]

Look at it this way, " At least you have one ."

[@Jaggerbush]

An undrivable one sold today for 203k. Beat up too. 1970 same car.

[@aaronbehindbars]

Motortrend just posted a video from Mecum Kissimmee 2023 of a '70 Superbird 440 6 barrel 4 speed that sold for $170k. When I watched this a few days ago, my guess on value was around $150k and I think that's a much more reasonable figure. Maybe a few years ago it would have gone over $200k, but I think a lot of the muscle car high water marks are starting to recede.

[@chimrichalds5205]

Boomers are dying or out of money, '50-70s cars are going to crater unless a new crowd comes along to speculate like with 'art'

[@Cstoreri]

Recede?… not hardly!

[@aaronbehindbars]

@@Cstoreri Super rare stuff (Hemi anything, Boss 429, COPO) still brings crazy money, but not cars like this. Boomers are starting to age out.

[@natehill8069]

7:40 Headlights move rarely enough that vacuum operation isnt a bad idea. A horrible idea is vacuum operated _wipers_ , since the faster you go the less vacuum you have available. So if youre on the highway and it starts to rain, the wipers just barely move, or even get stuck in the "up" position cause they dont have enough power to overcome the wind.

[@thesaltysergeant4103]

Regardless of the price, it is a nice car.