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@YuriMarryshow2 ай бұрын
The Lucid Sapphire would've been a better race instead of the Tesla.
@jakubroszka10212 ай бұрын
i woud expect track oriented video novadays not something what we allready know cause everyone is doing just drag races
@j.d.85932 ай бұрын
@@YuriMarryshow But the Lucid is NOT a "compact sport sedan".....
@mushiat65302 ай бұрын
Okay, that's an awesome sponsorship, V1 makes good stuff
@masterxyr2 ай бұрын
Sweet. In many other countries, however, being caught with a speed-cam radar would get you a nice stay in a few select prisons :(
@MD-zb9ev2 ай бұрын
Forget the cars, this is some amazing video production.
@muzi82982 ай бұрын
bro, i have jus complimented the same, this production is too top!
@jrherita2 ай бұрын
I love the walking next to the car on the drag strip parts - this is really awesome
@MaddNomad10152 ай бұрын
Every video has the same comments almost feels like bots. Lol
@PholoshoSeloane2 ай бұрын
Broooooowwww
@MD-zb9evАй бұрын
@@MaddNomad1015 This is my first time watching anything from this channel so I'm pretty shocked and amazed at the work put into the video. 😂
@michaelkim34322 ай бұрын
Jason Cammisa is worth every penny @Hagerty is paying him! These are hands down the best car vids in terms of production value out there. Prove me wrong!
@dangrass2 ай бұрын
I completely agree. Outstanding moto-journalist who, unlike Carlos Lagos, is actually objective. Additionally, the production quality of these Hagerty videos is exceptional.
@jasoncarter43432 ай бұрын
Production quality is outstanding combined with a great deal of wit and humor.
@SupraSav2 ай бұрын
Jason has been great a long time before hagerty on his personal channel and ISSIMI, I don't think hagerty would have nearly the viewership they do now if it wasn't for him.
@tobyray87002 ай бұрын
Absolutely!!!!!! He is the GOAT of these kind of videos.
@ItsJSTNDAD2 ай бұрын
Agreed
@tescoshortage2 ай бұрын
The C63 somehow strikes me as even more soulless than the Model 3.
@kristiansand24802 ай бұрын
They need these Ls to finally wake up and put V8s back in their cars.
@991.2gt32 ай бұрын
*than the model 3
@GooseTheSecond2 ай бұрын
Mercedes lost soul long ago. Anyways, Audi master race.
@kristiansand24802 ай бұрын
@@GooseTheSecond Audi never had soul to begin with. But the new A5 is my favorite automotive release this year so I'll give them that.
@G82Watts2 ай бұрын
Really sad to see mercedes lost their way. It even changed me over to a bmw m4 comp xdrive. I was running 11.0s stock and now with a simple jb4 10.4s with no weight reduction and just intakes. Absolutely nuts what the s58 can do with no hybrid BS.
@Terence1015Ай бұрын
I like how he introduced the m3 CS like it’s available at your local dealer
@rahulmaddali72222 ай бұрын
5:02 THE MAT WATSON DIG I CANT 😂😂😂
@keelanmcgurk40522 ай бұрын
@@rahulmaddali7222 🤣🤣🤣
@wharris1231842 ай бұрын
DEAD!!!! 😂
@pmtesta76312 ай бұрын
I can hear the "Im Matt Watson, and you're watching CarWow!"
@juiceda62 ай бұрын
I was wondering why that tesla was the same speed as the old tesla
@Aniket27122 ай бұрын
DAMN!!! ... that was sick AF
@piotrzareba71132 ай бұрын
I'm shocked how fast the new M3 CS is. The B58/S58 engine is becoming a legend!
@brett77612 ай бұрын
Imagine some deleted exhaust components, a tune , blow offs and a intake system. Possibly adding another 100hp.
@KarolSzymonWisniewski2 ай бұрын
The S58 engine is very different from the B58 found in regular BMWs.
@majstorzoki2 ай бұрын
@@KarolSzymonWisniewski yep, only 10% of the components are the same :D
@dieselstar52 ай бұрын
Nothing to be shocked about. . The formula is simple, BMW greatly increased its horsepower, lowered the weight and adjusted the tranny and gear set to accommodate it. But I’m sure you and a bunch of others really think it’s performing at 543hp 😂
@chikmnunget2 ай бұрын
@@dieselstar5 i bet it’s like 650
@AutobahnVault2 ай бұрын
That C63 is an embarrassment to the AMG legend.
@alexnutcasio9362 ай бұрын
Old Fat Ass W211/ M113 E55 AMG with a tune would go into the 10s easily. WTF is MB thinking here??
@origaminefretami34802 ай бұрын
@@alexnutcasio936 And has more space and is more reliable than the C63.
@assininecomment16302 ай бұрын
Yeah, it's obviously far too slow. 😐
@assininecomment16302 ай бұрын
🤦♂️"...with a tune" , @@alexnutcasio936. Are you six? 😂
@valerystoichkov74292 ай бұрын
@@assininecomment1630How? If you care about speed, no one cares about stock cars.
@edgarvos35882 ай бұрын
This is one of the best drag races I've seen so far. The editing is amazing.
@KevinRedkey2 ай бұрын
MSRP ($USD): Tesla: 55k M-B: 85k BMW: 120k
@g600f7002 ай бұрын
everyday use - Tesla impress grandpa - M-B track - BMW
@JonathanGurgul2 ай бұрын
Tesla $7500 Federal Tax Credit. I got mine for 47k
@bigjdm54602 ай бұрын
@@g600f700I wouldn’t want to drive a Tesla everyday. Driven Taycan turbo S’s etc and I wouldn’t even want to drive that everyday. I’m lying it wasn’t that bad.
@g600f7002 ай бұрын
@@bigjdm5460 all good, 5 years on Tesla, zero problem.
@Courtesyflush522 ай бұрын
@@bigjdm5460 For everyday driving all three of these cars would be fine
@CarswithMiles2 ай бұрын
M3 CS is GOATED
@ntmblko91762 ай бұрын
@@CarswithMiles fr
@KaboWaboo2 ай бұрын
I sure hope the sticker price and mpg is good at least (it's not)
@Sacko20082 ай бұрын
What does it cost? Like a 120k? A plaid is cheaper and way faster.
@BMWROYAL2 ай бұрын
@@Sacko2008plaid is slower wouldn’t even come close to an m3 cs around corners or on a track,
@CaliSteve1692 ай бұрын
Until Model S Plaid enters the room.
@StephenDavidson53592 ай бұрын
The most complex and convoluted powertrain put into any production car ever? Move over Maybach, the new king of depreciation is here.
@swerner64592 ай бұрын
I´ve just been in Australia on holiday and had a talk with a lovely chap at on of the largest Mercedes Dealers in Queensland. He told me that he hasn´t sold a SINGLE GLC 63/ C63 hybrid and that there is a run on the old V8s. And according to him it´s no different anywhere else in Australia (sorry for my englisch...)
@dredeth2 ай бұрын
My immediate thought.
@thabanglehetla60732 ай бұрын
The mechanics are going to cry😂 come 5 years later
@kingdo7772 ай бұрын
@@swerner6459America as well
@Captain_Coleslaw2 ай бұрын
@@swerner6459 Same in Denmark, and we have a tax break due to the hybrid drive. Its still the most expensive C63 in the entire world sitting at 500k USD MSRP ish for us, but hey. I haven't heard of a single one sold here
@JayyGotti2 ай бұрын
the fact that all these cars did under 3 seconds is nuts bmw really put magic in the s58
@Juuul892 ай бұрын
The S58 and B58 truly are masterpieces, shockingly they're also reliable and economical
@chikmnunget2 ай бұрын
I work for a BMW dealership, they can’t keep enough of these in inventory bro, these are a future classic without a doubt
@miscellaneousdanger2 ай бұрын
Can't wait until they fire the designer doubling down on the camel nostril front grill design. The rest is tip top.
@EmekaIheanacho-jc5td2 ай бұрын
@@chikmnunget Brother do you guys put magic in those cars?? I'm ready to ditch my Mercedes
@SamoSlaven2 ай бұрын
@@miscellaneousdanger brooo, no way. This news are from yestwrday. "Domagoj Dukec is moving from BMW to Rolls-Royce to take over as director of design from Anders Warming, as part of a dramatic overhaul of the BMW Group's design operations."
@jrherita2 ай бұрын
15 / 22 mpg is economical?
@scottybrowndotca2 ай бұрын
0:28 .. a Master Race mode, eh ..? You'd almost think a German car company would be a little more careful about describing a drive mode this way .. lol
@Sock_real2 ай бұрын
Real lmao 😂😂😂
@markbennett66582 ай бұрын
“Shhhsh don’t mention the war”😂😂
@alanngli2 ай бұрын
It sounded odd at first and took me a stroll through the comment section to figure out why.
@jjtsg2 ай бұрын
***"Erika" increases to volume 200 in Master Race mode***
@Sickwitit182 ай бұрын
2 different modes lol you can put one part of the car in master and another part in race mode. So technically if you've got both of them on then it's master race mode. It's not actually a single mode called that
@Afy-uz4fo2 ай бұрын
That c63 is utter disappointment
@softroseforyou74572 ай бұрын
Yes you are right. a 4 cylinder doing 0 to 60 in 2.9 seconds is horrible. SMH LOL
@heiner712 ай бұрын
@@softroseforyou7457 , yeah. How can a car this slow even keep up in daily traffic.
@mohammedawadud72382 ай бұрын
11.2 seconds is good so it's plenty fast, just lacks the soul and sound.
@Hankplayswarthunder2 ай бұрын
@@softroseforyou7457compared to all of the other c63s its awful. AMG has lost its way massively. They’ve somehow made it slower than the competition and removed any form of emotion and it weighs as much as a mid size truck…
@L1ven2 ай бұрын
@@Hankplayswarthunderthey arent really aiming for boys with it but young family men/women. There is the difference.
@ewoudalexanderАй бұрын
In Holland, M3cs starts from 199k euro. The Tesla starts from 58k euro. One of the cheapest ways to go that fast, besides a motorcycle.
@Blacknight-c2h18 күн бұрын
Jij vergeet een ding. Die Tesla ziet er niet uit zoals bijna alle EV . Uiterlijk doet voor mij ook wat. Je koopt toch ook een Auto omdat hij mooi is?
@richyzig10 күн бұрын
Motorcycles are slow in turns....
@GDM227 күн бұрын
@@richyzig Depends on the turn
@XteR002 ай бұрын
bold of you to assume people wouldnt use launch control at the stop light
@thestoicwhinger2 ай бұрын
Maybe once in a while
@DroneStrike17762 ай бұрын
I drive an underpowered Mazda3 awd hatch. I don't have launch control, but I will brake launch the sucker at a light or stop sign just for the hell of it. If I had a faster car with LC, you better fn believe me I will use it every chance I get.
@johnnys.90402 ай бұрын
Yeah, once in a while, they wouldn't use it. I had a bone stock rwd 335i, I was launching it at every red light🤷. It's fun and easy, and if you let at the speed limit it doesn't impact MPGs that bad
@johnnys.90402 ай бұрын
And my 335i didn't even have launch control, but old fashioned brake boosting worked wonderfully
@DroneStrike17762 ай бұрын
@@johnnys.9040 done that plenty of time in my e90 N52 and late friend's e92 n54 (twin turbos, n55 twin scroll turbo. The n54 xDrive really launches nicely. His brother now has the car and told me today it needs work on the turbos.
@ourfutureisdark2 ай бұрын
That mercedes will be worth $40k in 2 years and worthless in 5-7 years the complexity of that thing is will be a nightmare out of warranty. This car is a complete failure.
@clato742 ай бұрын
Am a merc enth, but completely agree. What are they thinking...hs
@jls.mp42 ай бұрын
and that tesla will be under 15k in a couple of years lmao
@Juanguar2 ай бұрын
@@jls.mp4no one’s talking about it tho ? Why are you so obsessed ?
@carlstansfield96962 ай бұрын
@@jls.mp4a great used buy then!
@kingdo7772 ай бұрын
@@jls.mp4not even 2 years
@Bleeding_Titanium2 ай бұрын
As an Audi Owner and enthusiast! That BMW is everything I wanted in my life.
@cdsk842 ай бұрын
RS3 is better.
@kimon24202 ай бұрын
@@cdsk84I changed from an RS3 to M3 touring in March. I loved my RS3 like a child, but the M3 is MUCH more fun
@steviegee84132 ай бұрын
@@cdsk84 The RS3 will never handle as well as a BMW and telling yourself it does, is just plain denial
@quemiraelbobo2 ай бұрын
@@cdsk84 u r taking the bus lil bro stop the yapping
@dakey2k62 ай бұрын
@@cdsk84 An Audi can never be better than a BMW.
@spill1tАй бұрын
The amount of production/editing is appreciated. Very nice way to present an otherwise drab drag. Race. Sub'd.
@topcarspecs2 ай бұрын
What a matchup!! •An internal Combustion Engine Vehicle •A hybrid • An all electric 🔥🔥🔥
@aussie2uGA2 ай бұрын
Would love to see the maintenance costs over 5 years on each.
@i.d.64922 ай бұрын
@@aussie2uGA lmao tell me you're broke without telling you're broke. People who buy these cars ain't worry about maintenance cost
@ilikecats77372 ай бұрын
@@i.d.6492 the model 3 performance starts at about 51,000 dollars which is an insane deal for a car as fast as it. Although 51,000 is a lot of money for some people.
@i.d.64922 ай бұрын
@@ilikecats7737 for some people? For most people! Plus after taxes and fees you'll be looking at close to $55-56K if not more. And you can make any ev fast so I'm not really impressed. All you need to do is slap bigger batteries and few more motors.
@starcola1572 ай бұрын
@@i.d.6492I just got the M3P and I’ll tell you the zero maintenance other than tires is a HUGE factor in getting it. The other cars will rack up an easy 10k+ in maintenance in 5 years on top of the tens of thousands in msrp difference
@tinotendashenjere36902 ай бұрын
I love how Cammisa always use a Miata as a reference in almost every video of his.😅
@Twin.motors2 ай бұрын
It's the benchmark for any sports car
@rayeonlee2 ай бұрын
Jason is like the Deadpool of car reviewers, killing it!
@fade_x_official2 ай бұрын
Thank you guys I can finally end this Mercedes Benz and BMW competition I had with my friend
@istvanlorinczi28172 ай бұрын
Thinking of these as compacts is insane
@davidanderson54112 ай бұрын
M3 in Europe is a full size large sports sedan 😂
@istvanlorinczi28172 ай бұрын
@@davidanderson5411 I'm from Europe, I know lol
@flyingphoenix1132 ай бұрын
Cars are just far too big. It's time to start taxing cars based on size/weight rather than fuel consumption (since weight is what actually impacts road degradation).
@garthhowe2972 ай бұрын
Crazy isn't it?
@MurphyAM2 ай бұрын
a 2025 M3 is 1"longer and 3" wider than my 2002 M5..... Its within a couple hundred pounds of the M5 as well.
@snjeff2 ай бұрын
simply put, this is just a whole different league of how entertaining and informative car videos can be made these days. The production quality is absolutely outstanding and the presenter is second to none. I could watch your videos for hours, more of them please! 🙌
@tsheposoaisa61082 ай бұрын
No! Way! That BMW makes 547hp. At least 600hp, AT LEAST!
@Foookinmate2 ай бұрын
Yea yeah, we can see without the launch 😒
@alexnutcasio9362 ай бұрын
BMW is lying again.....just like Porsche.
@them60productionm6zero22 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you... that launch aiiiiii
@Euromasterrace50002 ай бұрын
German brands always give you more power then promised, hence they are the best.
@draknareb2 ай бұрын
Its probably likely 547Whp, at the wheels…and i dont know what setting they ran for the last test…but as a 2023 M4 comp X owner, i can state for a fact the thing launches hard without launch control if you running sport plus 4wd mode.
@eremalandranji7981Ай бұрын
I drove the model 3 performance. The launch is unreal. Feels absolutely insane
@TB-vb3ovАй бұрын
It's pretty good. But you should try the Plaid.
@eremalandranji7981Ай бұрын
@@TB-vb3ov I’ll give that a shot next time
@mrhowmuch2 ай бұрын
The video South Africans 🇿🇦 have been waiting for 😂 the M3 is simply the better driver’s car…
@yungspy-c44702 ай бұрын
😂😂😂Real, sad how the C63s uses F1 technology yet still slow
@tiyani31542 ай бұрын
@@mrhowmuch But it was a bit unfair to race the C63 against a CS, I’m speculating that the results would’ve been way different if it was a M3c 🤷🏾♂️
@PEACEOUTXX1Ай бұрын
@@tiyani3154buddy look at the leaderboards after the first race. The m4 comp Xdrive is above both the model 3 and AMG. With an 11.0.@125mph... what's ur excuse now?
@G82WattsАй бұрын
@@tiyani3154look at the leaderboards in the video. The m4 comp xdrive is above the model 3 and Mercedes. 11.0 @125mph... u were saying?
@RemoteSpeed007Ай бұрын
More than double the price, and uses 600% more energy - they are not comparable.
@lionsgarage2 ай бұрын
I saw one of those M3 CS on the road the other day. It lookes amazing.
@uptoolayte12 ай бұрын
I've seen 2 of those chrome green ones. Soon much better looking in person.
@Jake_Smith74722 ай бұрын
Ugliest car out there
@decepticon2192 ай бұрын
The fact that the m3 walks on the merc is incredible
@505LAN2 ай бұрын
We'll be back one day, bimmer fan boy. We'll back...
@rjrichyrichh2 ай бұрын
@@decepticon219 far less lighter
@sidthiru15092 ай бұрын
@@505LAN we've been waiting for a while now, hurry up 🤣
@505LAN2 ай бұрын
@@sidthiru1509🤣👍 Patience, bro! Patience 😉
@sidthiru15092 ай бұрын
@@505LAN lol 😅
@stickyoxtail2 ай бұрын
As lots of people are saying, track mode slows the model 3 because it cools the battery. Many people have done much better straight from the factory. It's a high 10 second car from the factory.
@WoTjolly2 ай бұрын
The Model 3 is the only one that normal people can buy and afford to use, you have to be a millionaire to afford the BMW and a psychopath to buy the Merc
@ianpier162 ай бұрын
@@WoTjolly this BMW is more than the mercedes
@PEACEOUTXX1Ай бұрын
That's why they have so many die hard fans that BS in the comments. Major majority will always be the average joes. Me personally, I strive to afford a bmw m3 or m4.. I don't want what I can already afford and everyone else can. Plus I really do find them bland and ugly. Also the sound of a great exhaust is intoxicating with an amazing luxury special feeling inteiror.
@WoTjollyАй бұрын
@@PEACEOUTXX1 i personally can't comprehend the strive for a daily driver, i would 100% buy a Model 3 Performance for the everyday use and then a 911 for the weekend. The M4 is likely more expensive to run than a 911 and far less premium and with way worse dynamics
@sudipchowdhury7849Ай бұрын
@@WoTjolly exactly the model 3 performance is the best daily.. save that extra cash for a true weekend car like the 911
@jiggerkandola9400Ай бұрын
@@sudipchowdhury7849it’s not though. I had a model 3 performance that I traded for a 2025 m4 x drive. It’s faster and more comfortable
@Rafael_8602 ай бұрын
That M3CS is a monster hollyyy
@jgripen9692 ай бұрын
The new C63 is the best Honda Civic ever produced
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@alexnutcasio9362 ай бұрын
04:55 starts the Mat Watson impression......Very funny and nice catch
@seth14222 ай бұрын
It’s not an impression; “like this” is a direct audio clip of his voice.
@wearethehaunted38312 ай бұрын
Just received my allocation for my M3. CS. Currently own a 2023 M340i. And this just popped up in my feed.
@Juuul892 ай бұрын
Geez, good on ya, trading in an amazing car for an even more amazing car. Must be good being you :P
@michaelkent47132 ай бұрын
I received my all black in March after having 5 of them in the past and it’s by far and away the best of the lot and you will really enjoy it. It’s the best feeling car I have ever driven. The seats take some getting used to.
@alexnutcasio9362 ай бұрын
Just don't race a Model 3 with a properly heated battery and decent driver. The driver of this Model 3 was sleeping at the light.
@nicholaswicks30772 ай бұрын
@@alexnutcasio936the m3 just needs a few thousand in mods and it will be faster then 95% of the cars on the road 😂
@silimarina.2 ай бұрын
@@nicholaswicks3077 considering that Model 3 Performance is half the price but has 95% of that BMW acceleration, i would take a Model 3.
@fastbikes672 ай бұрын
Great video. Loved it. I’m going from a Tesla S to M3 g80 (on order) bc I miss the engagement, excitement and bark of ICE.
@billymays72102 ай бұрын
How dare you! You are not allowed to own a Tesla without joining the fanboy cult, and you are NEVER allowed to leave said cult! Didn’t you learn? EVERYTHING about a Tesla is better than ANY ICE car!
@fastbikes672 ай бұрын
Look, my other one is a modified e30 5-speed. I sold my Porsche Macan GTS and got the S. I was on drugs - literally.
@billymays72102 ай бұрын
@@fastbikes67 Checks out… 😂
@ryans.96112 ай бұрын
Bruh the Tesla is slower in Track Mode than in Drag Strip Mode, why did you have it in track mode :/
@dontrustwhiteyevery1Ай бұрын
They were cheating...
@G82WattsАй бұрын
U guys are seriously delusional. He tore these comments up in his latest Carmedguen episode. He ran it in all modes over 50 times and this was the best time he got. The vids that u see under 11 sec are on a drag strip, and or, downhill, removed seats, lightweight rims,preconditioned it right before the run , etc... in other words either not stock or not real world
@manchuriancandidatethe3rd101Ай бұрын
@@G82Watts no, real owners w/ stock like me ran an 11 sec on regular roads without removing anything so, 10.9 is very doable, stop coping
@G82WattsАй бұрын
@@manchuriancandidatethe3rd101 yea and 10.7 is do able in the m3 cs and it does it at all times. Where the model 3 gets slower if ur not preconditioning the battery and or ur state of charge is low. Tesla is slower end of story. Bmw m3 still the king performance sedan. Case closed.
@GuiGaboisАй бұрын
@@manchuriancandidatethe3rd101 The G82Watts dude is a well know Tesla hater. Waste of time dealing with him. He's just a kid
@brendangalway71472 ай бұрын
Downpipes, tune and some e85 on the m3 will put it into another stratosphere. What a car!
@Json9182 ай бұрын
So basically void your 50k engine.
@brendangalway71472 ай бұрын
@@Json918 lifes to short to worry about engine warranty.
@Gettfoutrahereloser2 ай бұрын
@@brendangalway7147Right! You can also spend the rest of your short life being in debt because you broke you’re 100k car engine and now not only do you have to keep making payments on it AND now you get to buy an entire new engine!
@stasy_whipz2 ай бұрын
I hope your talking about an M3 Comp, not CS
@brendangalway71472 ай бұрын
@@stasy_whipz why? same s58 motor.
@AJSimonTalks2 ай бұрын
Not sure why everyone hates on the front end of the M3 and M4. I like them.
@dalea43502 ай бұрын
If you like Bugs Bunny I suppose
@Jeroenneman2 ай бұрын
Beaver grilles. Whale grille for the Merc. The only clean car is the Tesla. All go, not just show.
@tonyss2512Ай бұрын
Tesla model 3 is by Far the ugliest car of the 3 cars, it looks like an egg on wheels.
@JeroennemanАй бұрын
@@tonyss2512 So what do you make of the BMW or Mercedes? To me, they both look like someone took their classic models, and stuffed a bunch of tupperware on it
@tonyss2512Ай бұрын
@@AJSimonTalks I also like the front end the M3 & M4, it was time to move away from the smaller kidney grills in my opinion.
@countryman87822 ай бұрын
Wait..is it just me or was he dissing Mat Watson??😂😂
@Projectunderground___2 ай бұрын
Bro he definitely did lmaoooo
@ragtop632 ай бұрын
Is he talking about Mat Watson from Carwow?
@Projectunderground___2 ай бұрын
@@ragtop63 yes even edited a voice over I don’t know if you missed that
@corvettezr1ism2 ай бұрын
Where is it in the video?
@kaloyankolev76582 ай бұрын
@@corvettezr1ism 5:02
@moegamezzz36222 ай бұрын
Taking that M3 CS all day
@emmanuelarthur71242 ай бұрын
7:17 The M3 driver though😂 🔥
@marcussefala5732 ай бұрын
@@emmanuelarthur7124 I guess it's Jason😅
@emmanuelarthur71242 ай бұрын
@@marcussefala573 even better💪🏾
@Joser9322 ай бұрын
Gotta love it!!😂😂😆
@turboman2019Ай бұрын
Thanks Jason for helping me decide and convincing me in buying a new M3P.
@shreddy_mcgnar6359Ай бұрын
@@turboman2019 as an m3p owner... dont do it. The quick acceleration gets old fast and you're left with the most boring car ever that you can't sell. Biggest purchase mistake of my life.
@turboman2019Ай бұрын
@@shreddy_mcgnar6359 I would have to disagree completely,the new M3P is the real deal,I sold my MYP to buy the M3P Highland is centuries better than the previous generation,please go drive one and tell me if you still don't like it.
@kimon24202 ай бұрын
If speed is all that you want, you can get close to 700hp off a stage 1 tune for the M3 - but the reason it’s the best is the handling, such an amazing car.
@KaboWaboo2 ай бұрын
Doesn't the model 3 handle better at tracks and autocross cause of its low center of gravity due to where the battery is placed?
@fesaldeari27172 ай бұрын
@@KaboWaboo center of gravity does matter a lot, but suspension, chassis and a lot of other things matter just as much. and EVs lose power over time the more the battery is drained, after 1 or 2 laps the Tesla would lose BUT im not well informed on its performance on the track.
@dbdz97362 күн бұрын
Hagerty has 2 of the G.O.A.Ts motoring journalists in my view in the form of Henry and Jason, I don't even need video when it comes to Jason, I could be listening to him on radio and I would pay as much attention.
@fabiomigotto2 ай бұрын
At 5:51 in the video we see a mistake in the test during the first drag race. The Tesla seems to be in Track Mode. Track mode is best for lapping sessions where it cools the battery down and allows you to turn down traction and stability features. It’s great for lapping days but not good for drag racing. You will lose about 2 tenths in the 1/4 mile with track mode enabled. For drag racing just set it to insane mode and precondition the battery as if you were going to charge it. Preconditioning the battery heats it up just enough to be the ideal temperature for maximum power in a 1/4 mile pass. If you did that, the Tesla would have won both races. Race the BMW again in a rematch not in Track Mode. Tesla will dip into the high 10’s and pick up @ 5mph. Only fair since the other 2 cars both got to be in their best settings for drag racing.
@Evans_Man25 күн бұрын
Bro, they race them multiple times. Also, Jason was one of the first few journalists to drive the 2024 M3P, weeks before its official announcement. Oh, and he addressed these comments up in his curmudgeon podcast Ep. 164 :)) Best time was in 4th run @94%, so the battery was at a very nice temp and as close to "racing" in real world conditions.
@fabiomigotto25 күн бұрын
@@Evans_Man Yes, they did race them multiple times. They did so with the the BMW and the Mercedes in the best mode for drag racing and the Tesla in the worst mode for drag racing. I know because I own a Tesla and took it to the track. If you run it in insane mode, you can’t run slower than 10.8 all day long unless you forget to floor it or you own a Model 3 outside the USA with an LG battery pack. It’s that easy. He admitted he unknowingly had it in the wrong mode in an interview also on KZbin after all the backlash he got. He said he didn’t know track mode was slower for drag racing, I believe him. If you don’t own one, you aren’t going to know all the fine details. Insane mode is also how you typically drive it on the street every day as well, not track mode which is meant for lapping days only. Track mode cools the battery so you can theoretically get a lap or 2 in before you start to overheat the battery and force the ECU to pull horsepower. It’s not perfect yet for lapping, but drag racing, and street light type racing, Tesla is hard to beat. I’m not hating on Jason, he has one of the best car channels on KZbin. Just pointing out the error that’s all. It deserves a rematch which he said he will do. The rematch will also have a full lap, not just a 1/4 mile run which is where the BMW should do better.
@richyzig10 күн бұрын
@@fabiomigotto Thank you for your comment and noticing this, I would have said the same if I would have noticed this. Also, they could have charged the Tesla to 100%. Not sure if that makes a difference on the current model. At 100% state of charge, my 2022 Model 3 Performance is quicker than at 70-something % (like in this drag race).
@Abdelhay-o5s8 күн бұрын
Without launch control the tesla m3p : good bye everybody 😉
@thespecsroom_tz2 ай бұрын
That Mat Watson Impression 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@AndrasMihalyi2 ай бұрын
@@sidesauce it's only in your head. It was just fun.
@TacticalMechaStriker2 ай бұрын
@@sidesauce cry
@TacticalMechaStriker2 ай бұрын
@@sidesauce you're the one coping here, considering how you posted the same message multiple times 🤣
@TacticalMechaStriker2 ай бұрын
@@sidesauce Nope 🫵
@Afy-uz4fo2 ай бұрын
If you own a last gen c63 with that glorified v8 keep it because its sure to go up in value thanks to this generation
@toddsmith86082 ай бұрын
Glorified or Glorious?
@XXfea2 ай бұрын
LOL - out of warranty - out of luck
@hotdognobun2 ай бұрын
I'm hanging onto my 2020 Coupe. Out of warranty but luckily I have a local that used to work for Mercedes and he's been great taking care of my car at a fraction of dealership cost
@alexnutcasio9362 ай бұрын
@@XXfea You sound like a former Audi or Porsche owner...
@s13dad822 ай бұрын
Tesla drops in value quicker than my grandmas pancake and dead at 40k miles like my Model X.
@bm49952 ай бұрын
The editing was phenomenal, this to me is the best of cars comparison on the channel. Well done...
@Dariodee12 ай бұрын
CS is the most expensive here but I believe it will hold its value better being a limited edition. I own a CS - It’s a special car!
@rkan22 ай бұрын
So there is one car you might not even be able to buy lol 😂
@sd24734Ай бұрын
Tell that to all the used BMW M2, M3 and M4 CS cars for sale at 35 - 50% below MSRP... hate to break it to you but BMW has really bad depreciation... if you wanted good depreciation should have bought a Porsche 911.
@Fasteddiebreakshearts2 ай бұрын
🚥 I was just thinking 🤔💭of this three way matchup in my head…my moneys on the inline 6 M3 CS… and to think the electric car has more soul than that 4 cylinder abomination fake C63 …Long live the V8 🤘🏽😎🤘🏽
@terrywhitlow27442 ай бұрын
That M3 is nuts buddy 🤪
@AlexWalkerjr2 ай бұрын
Man how the mighty C63 has fallen what a shame …I think I’d take the Tesla over it and I’m not a electrician 😂
@G82Watts2 ай бұрын
Even the m4 comp xdrive beats the model 3 performance. M3 cs is a complete monster though. Car and driver got a 10.7 quarter mile for it
@BearLeeski2 ай бұрын
M3 CS has to be making 600+ horsepower…what a beast 🚀
@VonnieKid2 ай бұрын
Tesla fanboys cope… ICE isn’t dead M3 CS is a work of art and that’s stock …Good ole tune and downpipes is 9 sec beast
@onewayofliving2 ай бұрын
I never would have guessed a C63 would weigh 4750 lbs. Thats about the same as 2020 S class Mercedes!
@CARSEVOLUTION2 ай бұрын
That m3 cs is a monster 🔥
@tumelomahlatsane3977Ай бұрын
This Mercedes doesn't deserve the C63s title. It can never represent the 6.2L V8
@hwi7114Ай бұрын
Was the Tesla in track mode? I see a lot of people that aren't familiar with Teslas turn track mode on for drag racing, but it actually slows the car down in a straight line and is meant for tracking the car.
@kylecoolky1189Ай бұрын
It definitely was. Should’ve disabled it.
@GautamAtri2 ай бұрын
I religiously wait for these videos. They're art. They're sublime.
@Juuul892 ай бұрын
They're so well made! I just wish they made more of em. But, quality takes time!
@ianbeanieАй бұрын
This vid is a masterpiece; the editing, the visuals, the writing. Subbed!
@gabe5476Ай бұрын
Honestly the bmw is superior in every way to the other two cars.
@mrbdx2 ай бұрын
I’d be effing PISSED if I spent that much money on that AMG and got reamed like that by a Model 3 Tesla.
@danthemantheawesome9337Ай бұрын
@@mrbdx you’d more pissed to find out that model s plaid cost same as a Benz, but whole second faster 0-60.
@F90-s7qАй бұрын
Well, its stupidity to buy an AMG in the first place anyways. Why not go for something much better like a BMW M if you want really fast Cars that are actually fun to drive?
@392lyl42 ай бұрын
5:29 MASTER RACE MODE!!!
@PB0Y18342 күн бұрын
Jason Cammisa is great. Makes these videos very enjoyable
@AtleastthreecharactersforYT2 ай бұрын
If you're doing a "stoplight drag" you may not get a car's launch mode setup right but you could at least brake-boost it.
@haviiithelegogunner9072 ай бұрын
Only one button click in the M3. Half a second at most. Mercedes is also only one button.
@Twin.motors2 ай бұрын
@@haviiithelegogunner907 but they don't always work. With launch control systems they sometimes glitch out and don't work, had it happen many times. It's basically just a way for manufacturers to lie about their 0-100 times
@BradBClipsАй бұрын
@@Twin.motors They work in BMW, not sure about others though. It's pretty fool proof these days especially with xdrive.
@ck80482 ай бұрын
Why is everyone stunned these BMW'S have been doing this for the last 30 years making a mockery of amgs
@505LAN2 ай бұрын
@ck8048 What are you talking about, bimmer fan boy? The e36 with its inline 6 vs. the w202 c43 with a V8 is a mockery? Or maybe the e46 vs. the w203 C55? Even the E90 with its 4 liter V8 was nowhere close to the glorious w204 C63. U bmw sectarians are so ridiculous...
@Nisimo67872 ай бұрын
@@505LANJudging by sales and Track performances, BMW was ahead by a big margin. Just audi at the B7 and B6 was faster
@505LAN2 ай бұрын
@Nisimo6787 Who cares about sales numbers anyway 🤷 As for performance, watch "the very smiley guy" race the W204 C63 vs E90 M3 vs RS4.
@Nisimo67872 ай бұрын
@@505LAN There is a CRT which never got raced and according to numbers destroys both except in straight line dig acceleration. Plus the sole reason mercedes goes back to V8 is because of sales. C63 was always less wanted than M3 and RS4
@505LAN2 ай бұрын
@Nisimo6787 We are talking about standard cars here. But if you want to talk about special editions, then there's a 507 and DR 520 editions of the C63. And again, I as a customer don't care why they put a V8 into it, as long they do. I doubt that it is less wanted. But even if so, that don't mean anything as well. Most people like coffee, I prefer tea😎
@Gemini_08152 ай бұрын
11:50 of course it matters. Living in Germany it does matter a lot, when you’re between 20 and 50 years old and drive a lot. I hate cars which get slow above 120mph when I’m on business trips.
@markw95122 ай бұрын
On the few and far between stretches of Autobahn which are still unlimited.
@matklm2 ай бұрын
17 missing calls from exponential wind resistance
@Gemini_08152 ай бұрын
@@markw9512 that’s a myth. There’s plenty of unlimited autobahn.
@markw95122 ай бұрын
@@Gemini_0815 well I was making a joke, but it is not a myth either. Auto top NL, which tests cars in Germany at top speed, has complained about it, as have numerous automotive publications. Germany has been cutting it back for some time, I recall reading that something like 50 or 60% of it right now is unlimited, so there have been cutbacks.
@ora100532 ай бұрын
@@markw9512 NL stands for Netherlands - western part is more busy and has more restrictions. East still has plenty of long and empty unlimited stretches.
@soplayet732 ай бұрын
Mr. Cammisa’s drag race are epic and no others compare. They are informative, exciting & the best to watch hands down! Keep um coming Jason & keep setting the bar higher than anyone can match.
@f80brisso2 ай бұрын
Why was this a whole movie 😂
@uptoolayte12 ай бұрын
I dunno but 3.25 million people seem to like this format.
@lekhan19182 ай бұрын
Does it matter what happens after 100mph on the Autobahn?? Absolutely! I live near one of the few stretches of Autobahn that are not too congested. Most german performance cars are limited to 155mph and i travel at that speed all the time. But you need a bit of empty left lane to get to that speed. At about 140mph people in front of you will start to see more easily that you are going fast, and they will less often pull out of the right lane in front of you. So it is easier to hold higher speeds.
@robthomas28432 ай бұрын
Best car content on KZbin, period.
@gregsullivan7408Ай бұрын
Nonsense - Alex On Autos is the best
@robthomas2843Ай бұрын
@@gregsullivan7408 😂
@klantic2Ай бұрын
What absolutely amazing content. I've been watching Hagerty for a while now. Thank you so much for your time, talent, and expertise!
@EboogerАй бұрын
My M3P has run super consistent 10.9 at just a hair under 125., and, yes, I have the stack of time slips. At two different drag strips, total of 15 runs, in much colder weather than you guys ran, which makes it slower. As I'm sure you know. Scheduled maintenance equals zero. Fuel economy equals about 120 MPG. And besides the $7,500 rebate from the feds, New York State, amazingly, kicks in another 500. BTW, I will be 80 years old in a few weeks. And I am fat. If you are curious, the first drag strip was Lebanon Valley dragway, just east of Albany, New York, and the second was Island dragway, near Hackettstown, New Jersey, The track where Big Daddy Don Garlits broke 200 when I was your age.
@ihackertoo2 ай бұрын
I’ve been a long time BMW M fan from my first E46 M3, E90 M3, 2008 M roadster (all of them manual of course). Then when things went turbo I lost interest in BMW (don’t have time for silly lags then whoosh), then 2014 R8-V8 Manual, and lastly 2016 Porsche Boxster Spyder manual and 2016 Miata manual (gutless, but full of fun to toss around daily driver makes you smile everytime)…..and now I drive a 2024 M3 Performance 🫣 and hooked 😱From manual to electron. 🤷🏻♂️Let’s see how long I can last without having to play with a 6-stick!😂😂 I don’t care for launch controls! Cars are meant to be driven by an individual’s skill or now driven by AI.😂
@CB-tx3ul2 ай бұрын
6:15 the vocal cut-in was interesting
@adrianwilliams63Ай бұрын
@@CB-tx3ul I noticed that too. He musta had the number wrong lol
@macwilliams756Ай бұрын
This is such a beautifully made video , first video I seen from you guys and I am forever a follower now 🙏🏽
@JonathanGurgul2 ай бұрын
You should have used regular insane mode on the Model 3 instead of track mode. It’s faster. At least a tenth or two in the quarter. Source: I own one
@kawuerek2 ай бұрын
I thought noone else noticed that. Obviously he shouldn't be using track mode and SOC is 78%. I'd say in insane mode and 95% battery M3P beats M3CS.
@BrandonHasbun2 ай бұрын
@@JonathanGurgulagreed that Tesla is just as fast as he m3 already see recorded 10.9 and 10.8 on the quarter mile absolutely nuts that u can get a car like this for under 60k is wild
@H.S.H.M.2 ай бұрын
@@kawuerek It wouldn't because the BMW M3 CS is actually considerably slower in this video. Its official times as tested by Car & Driver is 10.7 @ 129mph bone stock. & its only a Tune & downpipe away from running in the 9's
@Hankynopanky2 ай бұрын
That BMW is an absolute monster , when I watched the Gt3 RS circuit race , I knew on a straight line , it's going to be too quick for most cars
@dangrass2 ай бұрын
other than the fact that it's kinda pokey compared to the Tesla in the real world.
@dangrass2 ай бұрын
actually, in the real world it's slower than the Mercedes too
@Hankynopanky2 ай бұрын
@@dangrass from a standstill ? Maybe , but if you’re on a freeway and if the BMW is on Boost , it’s most definitely faster
@kriordan252 ай бұрын
Would be even more dominant on the track
@ludicrousmodel31732 ай бұрын
I had no idea the BMW was that quick, it's crazy fast for what it is.
@olegbmw32 ай бұрын
Of course m3 is the best 💪
@MikeDiscenza2 ай бұрын
Wildly entertaining! Thank you for the best 16+ minutes in recent memory.
@S2mooth2 ай бұрын
Where has this channel been all my life, and why did I just come across it now?
@jltplease2 ай бұрын
6:14 ok i just want to know how they did this?
@drsus02 ай бұрын
now take them around the track....
@roland93672 ай бұрын
The Mercedes will suffer the most
@adjust.clinic2 ай бұрын
I want to see that too. I think the Performance 3 would do pretty well, actually.
@richardlabeja2 ай бұрын
Beamer will still come on top.
@dangrass2 ай бұрын
@@richardlabeja I doubt it. Previous M3s were slower than previous Model 3s.
@drsus02 ай бұрын
@@richardlabeja 100% … with the Merc maybe a turn behind …. And the Tesla upside down in a ditch w the brakes in smoke . These videos of teslas drag racing … we get it, EV get off the line, who gives a F anymore ?
@voshonewsАй бұрын
New Sub! It's so rare to find a channel that is not biased, Thank you keep it like that.
@LionBlu20002 ай бұрын
A family sedan that does 10.9 quarter mile! AND 300km/h top speed?? Wow, just wow. Unbelievable. Who would thought a 4 door family sedan with a petrol engine would do that
@dakotas2842 ай бұрын
@@LionBlu2000 cough cough.. hellcat and redeye chargers have done it for almost a decade.. 😂
@chadmueller91352 ай бұрын
@@dakotas284so did the M5 and the E55...
@MrGembelo2 ай бұрын
Also in other parts of the world you can get the wagon version
@HioSSilver19992 ай бұрын
And a more equal priced plaid smokes them all
@larryc16162 ай бұрын
Electric American Muscle #1 88k Plaid baby! ⚡️🇺🇲
@kartikkashyap57402 ай бұрын
BMW said do hell with the looks.. we are going for performance... Damn what a mean machine!
@AndrasMihalyi2 ай бұрын
1:34... It's quite misleading "the 4cylinder that makes 671 HP..." That's not your level, Hagerty !
@04m6gto2 ай бұрын
If you had waited a few more seconds you would have heard how all of the power is actually produced.
@Po3tfxАй бұрын
Love what you've done here! I'm not sure why I just discovered you now!!! My favourite car info-show by far 😍 subbed
@tristategaragedoorservices33822 ай бұрын
Simply put no one does it like BMW 💪
@3184PatrickАй бұрын
except Tesla
@3184PatrickАй бұрын
oh and Hyundai... the Ioniq 5n was only 2 tenths slower... but quicker without traction control
@3184PatrickАй бұрын
@@tristategaragedoorservices3382 i don't have a nurburgring here lol. i have real world roads. dirt on the roads, oil and water and these EV's will rape those BMW's in real world driving. And do it for 1/10 the cost to fill up. and half the price up front...
@tristategaragedoorservices3382Ай бұрын
@@3184Patrick lmfao come race my 35k built 1000HP m4 comp and will see who wipes the floor with who you amateur 🤣🙈😘
@jerkyz2 ай бұрын
After that first race I immediately was thinking, this race would be so different without launch control. And Jason was already on top of it, thank you for doing the real-world stop light race without launch control.
@IamY00t2 ай бұрын
The BMW is 120k? Thats 25k more than a Plaid Model S.
@dmitryv3926Ай бұрын
35k. Plaid is 85k. So for the price of a bmw you can have a model s plaid and a Camry.
@chrisb7161Ай бұрын
@@dmitryv3926 yes but in 5 years the Tesla will be worth next to nothing while the BMW will still sell for the price of a brand new M3P. Teslas depreciate at extremely fast rates
@dmitryv3926Ай бұрын
@@chrisb7161 lol what. Amazing opinion. A 2023 BMW M3 has a projected 5 year depreciation rate of 45%. A 2023 model 3 performance has a projected depreciation rate of 51%. Not exactly astronomical difference. And the maintenance cost of the M3 will make up for that WHOPPING 6% difference.
@SDav21Ай бұрын
@@dmitryv3926 That's not an ordinary M3. And most old M3s have now gone up in value and are collectors items. A tesla will never be that because in 30 years it's battery won't even work while the BMWs engine and gas tank will.
@Scott-px6miАй бұрын
@@dmitryv3926 tell him
@7REY1017Ай бұрын
The car info/details and editing here is crazy! Love this video definitely gotta check out more!
@teamfear44962 ай бұрын
Would love to have seen a 5 lap race between them, see how the Tesla stacks up.
@peterhammer69152 ай бұрын
I doubt the Model 3 would finish 5 laps.
@alangil402 ай бұрын
All three would do poorly in an all-out 5-lap race. The sad reality is that with the possible exception of a 911 GT3, none of these production cars can go all out for more than a few laps. The Tesla will have the additional issue of battery drain and battery management, but they all would cook the brake fluid and none of those brake pads are up to task. The ICE cars have a good chance of breaking something else like the water pump (maybe not brand new, but after a while). I have a friend who is a driving instructor at a local track and he has all kinds of stories of people coming out in BMWs and Audis thinking their cars are track cars when they are not. The vast majority of people really into tracking cars will very soon end up with modified cars that are not able to be driven on the street.
@peterhammer69152 ай бұрын
@@alangil40 Nonsense. I had a F80 M3 Comp for 4 years. I could easily do 6-8 laps with full throttle (4km per lap). I never had a single problem on track. This CS is even way better as it's made for the track.
@roland93672 ай бұрын
@@alangil40 I think the Mercedes would actually be the most dissapointing. It only has a 6kWh battery and it probably loses 200hp when that battery is empty. We know the Tesla will at some point suffer from heat and go slower, but the Mercedes will probably lose power much quicker.
@davepaturno42902 ай бұрын
@teamfear4496 Car & Driver's Lightning Lap at VIR would be a great challenge. However, it is doubtful that Tesla would supply a model 3 P for the run.
@HomerSimpson75375Ай бұрын
Tesla Model S Plaid price from 91k - 1/4miles 9.2sec BMW M3 CS price from 119k - 1/4miles 10,9sec
@titaniummechanism32142 ай бұрын
Ordinarily nobody would scoff at a production car engine which makes 469 hp out of a 2 Liter 4cyl engine, but since it's replacing a twin turbo 4 liter V8, it will never be good enough. What a shame. This, but dialed back a bit, should've been called C43 E-Performance.
@505LAN2 ай бұрын
That twin turbo 4 liter was itself a replacement of the NA 6.2 liter V8. That's where the whole thing went wrong in the first place...
@ARCNA4422 ай бұрын
The problem (at least to me) isn't the engine size - it's the crazy weight and complexity gain for no real performance gain. If it had destroyed the M3 and Model 3, then great, but it didn't so I'm just left asking, why?
@dstewusa70542 ай бұрын
@505LAN This. 👆🏼
@infidel900rr13 күн бұрын
Never thought a drag race could be that interesting. Nice work 👍
@ahmedyassin56852 ай бұрын
carwow is cooked🥶💀💀💀
@bigmini28702 ай бұрын
As a Mercedes fan, I’m so happy that it lost everything. Deserved for putting a 4 cylinder and making the car out of lead apparently
@softroseforyou7457Ай бұрын
You are not a true Mercedes fan for you would not want it to lose in any way. The 4 cylinder is the most powerful in the world and did 0 to 60 in 2.9 seconds and you are complaining. SMH LOL
@F90-s7qАй бұрын
@@softroseforyou7457 He doesnt even have to hope for it, cause anytime a Mercedes pulls up on a BMW it automatically loses 😂
@Areku062 ай бұрын
Interesting if model 3 wasn’t using track mode which makes it slower in 1/4, there are model 3 P’s running 10.8-.9 just like bmw m3 cs.