Hair Metal In 1991: Not Yet Grunge... NOT F'ING YET.

1991 is commonly referred to as the year that Grunge took over the top of the rock mountain from Hair Metal. However, Hair Metal didn't give up without a fight. In this episode, Ryan and I discuss Hair Metal during the Grunge Invasion, and detail what we think are the 20 greatest releases of the year. Come along for the ride!

[@matthewg666]

In no particular order: 01. Katmandu - Katmandu 02. Badlands - Voodoo Highway 03. Bulletboys - Freakshow 04. Dangerous Toys - Hellacious Acres 05. Great White - Hooked 06. Dirty Looks - Bootlegs And not sure if live albums count, but 1991 saw the release of Fastway's Live: Say What You Will.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Great list! I need to revisit that Katmandu album. Thanks for watching, man.

[@gregbrewer6005]

Good on you! Anthony (Hair metal guru) for praising these bands and albums, thank you for your service. Another great mention is Drivin n Cryin-Fly me courageous (1991) awesome band and album

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Shit, man, I LOVE that Drivin' N' Cryin' album! Good call. And thank you so much for the kind words and support, man, I really do appreciate it.

[@michaelhenderson5946]

Katmandu! That's a 1991 album that should be talked about more! It slays! Dave King of Fastway on vox and Mandy Meyer on guitar! 🎸🎵😎 "Medicine Man", "Warzone", so many great songs!

[@johnfountain5619]

Love Katmandu! Not only Fastway but Flogging Molly now

[@hothjawa2509]

Amazing singing on that album

[@HairMetalGuru419]

@@johnfountain5619 I'm a big Flogging Molly fan.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Dave King went on to form an Irish punk band called Flogging Molly that I love.

[@damienlejeune7840]

Back in the days, "Slave to the grind" was everything to me. Listening to it 20 times a day... But now that I'm older, "Screw it" by Danger Danger speaks to me so much more. Want to hear about girls, cars, party... And Danger Danger is all about that...

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I love Slave, but I agree, "Screw It" has become my favorite D2 album.

[@toddgambrel4316]

I never heard of Shadow King. Thanks Ryan! Love it

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Ryan's the man!

[@devinwalker7740]

Found your channel a week ago, bing watching every day. Really enjoy the long form videos.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Hey, man, thank you so much. Seriously, I appreciate it.

[@mattc560]

Great picks for 91! Some honorable mentions of mine that I don't think were mentioned: Nasty Idols - Cruel Intentions, Badlands - Voodoo Highway, I,Napoleon- S/T, Outlaw Blood - S/T, Brighton Rock - Love Machine, Crimson Glory - Strange and Beautiful (not a hair metal band but this album had elements of it)

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Man, I need to cover Brighton Rock at some point--great band. Need to revisit Nasy Idols and Outlaw Blood--it's been a while on those bands. Just listened to I, Napoleon a couple weeks ago. Hey, Matt, thanks a ton for your support. Seriously, Brother, I appreciate it.

[@HairBandBasement]

Great year in music! My list would be: 1. Don’t Come Easy - Tyketto 2. No Rules - Kik Tracee 3. Slave to the Grind - Skid Row 4. Psychotic Supper - Tesla 5. Hellacious Acres - Danger Toys 6. Hollywood Vampires - LA Guns 7. McQueen Street - S/T 8. Lean Into It - Mr.Big 9. F.U.C.K. - VH 10. Tainted Angel - Southgang And so many more!

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Great list, HBB!

[@elcraigio1397]

Great episode. Was skooled a few times. Some great leads generated for me here... Jillson?? Jeezus I didn't even know this existed!

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Jillson is crazy fuckin' hard to find on CD... it'll cost you an arm and a leg on Ebay. Hey, thanks for watchin', man, I really appreciate it.

[@jayjohnson9452]

Great choices from u guys! ...this might be my favorite year..it's a tough call between 89,91&92...both of u had awesome albums as ur No.1's...but liked Ryan's a little better.😁...Bite Down Hard is one of my all time favorite albums🤘...take care Guru.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I let Ryan have Britny Fox! They would've been at the top of my list, too, dammit! ;-) JK. Appreciate all your support, Jay, seriously, Brother.

[@Kentucky_gurl47]

The tesla song you were talking about is called… Had Enough.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Shit, that's right. Thanks, lil lady...

[@Kentucky_gurl47]

Welcome 🤘🏼

[@ashesantics]

Here we go!!

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Man, thank you so much for the continued support. Let me know if you have any topics or things you'd like me to feature in an episode, Brother, and I'll see what I can do.

[@1Vettefan]

That Kane Roberts "Saints n Sinners" album was super hard to find in the music stores here in Ohio when it came out. I was a student at OSU living in Columbus, Ohio and I remember going to every music store I knew of trying to find a copy. I could find the self-titled one easily, but Saints was nowhere to be found. I asked around and one clerk said he had seen a used copy come through at one point and to keep stopping by from time to time. I never did find it in a store so I ended up ordering a CD Japanese import copy through an ad in Metal Edge magazine. I still have it to this day. Has lyrics and notes in both English and Japanese in the insert. You guys hit on pretty much all my fave bands/albums from 1991. Good show!

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Thanks, Brother! Appreciate your support, my man.

[@chrisitalia8868]

KIX hot wire sooo underrated, always in my playlist. Wish it got more attention when released.

[@mikeb.7183]

Kix was one of the best bands I ever saw live....... In a small venue. I have seen them 5 times, 4 of the best shows in a big bar setting. The one time I saw them in an arena they just were not as much fun and Steve's personal interaction just did not translate. They played as good as ever but that interaction with the crowd was just not the same.

[@blaisebarshaw2534]

Great album, my favorite by them.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I am right with you on this.

[@midwestdrum]

McAuley Schenker Group released their self-titled album (MSG) in 91. If you haven't heard it, or just forgot it ever existed, give it a listen. This band didn't get nearly enough credit.

[@Scandolo]

You guys should show up your CDs, that would be an extra to your wonderful discussions. Great job thou!

[@patrickpowell1375]

The "rap" song on Danger Danger's Screw It was called "Yeah You Want It", featuring background vocals by Gary Cherone and Nuno Bettencourt of Extreme. It was goofy, but fun!

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Yeah, it was totally a goofy, fun tune. And I love that about D2--they didn't take themselves too seriously.

[@ryant3600]

Love seeing the Lillian Axe shirt one of my all time favorite bands. 91 was a special time for me I was a senior in high school. And just jamming out through my Walkman on football bus trips, lunch break, blasting tapes in my car on my way to and from school, hanging with my buds just listening to new albums. Great memories are intertwined with 91 albums probably more than any other year in my life. I'm just going to list 10 but probably with honorable mentions ha.. But just 10 is gonna be super hard cause I wore out a lot of tapes from 91. Here’s the best I came up with in an order pretty accurate for my taste however I absolutely loved all of them very much. And all of them are on my phone even now. I thought Big Game was great....ha Tuff wasn't a fan. I'm from the valley and never bought into them, I just thought they were trying to hard. Although I did like the All new Generation song... 1. Shotgun Messiah- Second Coming ( Harry Cody on guitar just ripped and I thought Ride the Storm was a way better ballad than Living without you.. ) 2. White Lion-Mane Attraction (I think the real highlights were: Lights and Thunder, War Song, Blue Monday, Broken Heart). 3. La Guns-Hollywood Vampires ( Loved how they chose to go way bluesier, pulling away from the sleazy glam.. Thought it was such a great top down cruiser) 4. Junkyard- Sixes, Sevens & Nines 5. Tyketto- Don’t Come Easy 6. Alice Cooper- Hey Stoopid 7. Fates Warning- Parallels 8. Badlands - Voodoo Hwy 9. Skid Row- Slave to the Grind 10. Mr. Big- Lean into It Very honorable mentions: Danger Danger- Screw It, Ozzy- No More Tears, Savatage-Streets, Dangerous Toys-Hellacious Acres, Great White-Hooked, XYZ-Hungry, Saigon Kick-ST,

[@brianm7185]

Though not really hair metal but they are not grunge, Galactic Cowboys self titled debut on Geffen came out in 1991 and is in my top 5 of that year. Great band not many people heard of...

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I know of them, but not sure I've ever listened to them... gonna try to check it out soon...

[@trendpimp1]

I'll show some love to my old buddies KingOfTheHill, who released their self-titled debut in 1991. It was a big deal for us Saint Louis-based bands when they got signed, even though they didn't make a huge splash it was pretty cool when one of their videos would show up on Headbanger's Ball Jealousy from X Japan. This one is a tough sell because they sing in Japanese but they were basically Dragonforce 20 years before Dragonforce. Lita Ford- Dangerous Curves. "Shot of Poison" did okay as a single and video. Nothing groundbreaking, just Lita being Lita. Otherwise, you guys pretty much covered all of the highlights of 1991. Hair metal wasn't quite dead yet, but it was on life support. For all the fuss made about grunge, it pretty much died a quick death (in many cases, literally). Yet critics would have you believe it was this huge movement. And they were right, it was a huge movement. A bowel movement. Painful while it's happening and a big relief when its over.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Okay, the bowel movement line had me laughing my ass off. As far as Kingofthehill, I LOVE the ballad "If I Say." But the rest of the album was a little too funk-oriented for me. Hey, thanks for watching and commenting, my man, I appreciate it.

[@metalmickey]

Baton Rouge - Lights out on the Playground

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Damn, you're right, that is a great album.

[@metalmickey]

@@HairMetalGuru419 Debut is even better

[@rob1tnt]

You hit one a few that would make it to my list for sure! The 1991 self titled debut from Harem Scarem is an absolute hook filled masterpiece imo and one of my top albums of all time. I also think Wild Boyz - Unleashed, Big House - S/T & The Zeros - 4321...The Zeros deserve mention:)

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Just listened to that Harem Scarem album recently--you're right, great album. I know the Wild Boyz and Big House albums, but I need to revisit The Zeros--I know of them!

[@rafaelcruz4176]

My top 10 Hard Rock / Heavy Metal albums from 1991 10. In The Kingdom (Whitecross) 9. Hey Stoopid (Alice Cooper) 8. Slave To The Grind (Skid Row) 7. No More Tears (Ozzy Osbourne) 6. Prisoners In Paradise (Europe) 5. Mane Attraction (White Lion) 4. For Unlawful Carnal Knowledge (Van Halen) 3. Use Your Illusion II (Guns 'N' Roses) 2. Use Your Illusion I (Guns 'N' Roses) 1. Metallica (Metallica) Honorable Mentions Lean Into It (Mr. Big) Psychotic Supper (Tesla) A Lil' Ain't Enough (David Lee Roth) Voodoo Highway (Badlands) Badmotorfinger (Soundgarden) Screw It ! (Danger Danger) Hot Wire (Kix)

[@spitzomt1]

Once again, another great episode. That KIX - Hot Wire cd is awesome. Love the last song Hee Bee Jee Bee Crush. What a banger !! Have ya listened to the band Funny Money with Steve Whiteman? Some decent stuff. The song of the same name(Funny Money) is very catchy. Thanx for another great watch !!

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Thanks my Brother for all the support! I have a couple Funny Money CDs--they had a song on a Metal Sludge compilation CD that was PHENOMENAL... could've been on a Kix album.

[@nickfisher6410]

Enjoy the conversation and as a fan of the 90s and the 80s it's too bad that you're mocking the 90s because there was some fantastic music. The 80 stuff was bloated and I was ready for a change. Still love the 80s...but come on guys...Brittany Fox or Sound Garden or Smashing Pumpkins. Not even close!!

[@Skycladatdusk78]

I'll take Britney Fox & Lillian Axe over the other two.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Hey, appreciate the comment, but I'd definitely take Britny Fox over Soundgarden. However, I LOVE the Siamese Dream.

[@travislove4783]

Mr. Big Lean into it is definitely one of the greats from 1991 but also Axel Rudi Pell Nasty reputation and Europe prisoners in paradise

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I like Mr. Big, but for some reason that's about it. Need to check out that Axel Rudi Pell album, thanks for the recommendation!

[@eddiepavlore9500]

Another great episode! Please do part 2… more honorable mentions: Mcauley Schenker Group - MSG Casanova - S/T Katmandu - S/T Dangerous Toys - Hellacious Acres Barracuda - Memory Contraband - Contraband Pink Cream 69 - One Size Fits All Love Life - Goodbye Lady Jane

[@HairMetalGuru419]

It's just been recently that I learned about Casanove--great band. Okay, shit, I have not heard of this band Love Life? Gonna have to check that out. Thanks for always supporting the channel, Brother.

[@AlphaAstraAqua]

Norum left Europe right before “The Final Countdown” single took off in America. Kee Marcello first appeared in the music video for “Rock The Night” and then was also in the album’s third and fourth videos for “Carrie” and “Cherokee”.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Thanks for the clarification, Brother.

[@winstonslone2797]

Good day Sir. Great video as usual. I'm younger than you so maybe you would want to hear from someone who was in middle/highscool during the reign of alternative. I grew up with hair bands but by 7th grade it was grunge then alternative/pop punk. Rap and r&b really took over in 95-96. I can attest to the fact that the genres co existed until around 93 where I grew up. I have a lot to talk about, I'm thinking of making some content myself. I'm only 42 you prove I'm not too old.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Hey, Brother, that's definitely a possible. You should start a channel and put something out, then we could possibly plan some collaboration. Thanks for your support!

[@Ratsnake71]

Thanks for turning me on to McQueen Street… I had never heard of them before yesterday… holy shit. Both albums are killer. I love discovering old “ new” music.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Hey, that's half the reason I started this channel! Glad to hear you're into the McQueen Street album, and I'm right with you, I love learning about bands that slipped under my radar back in the day. Thanks for the kind words, Brother!

[@MetalAsylumNJ]

That second XYZ album has one of the best and heaviest metal chainsaw guitar sounds, solos and riffs are smokin. Love that album

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I need to revisit that one... Thanks for the comment!

[@MetalAsylumNJ]

@@HairMetalGuru419 kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3O1hqOuptppbassi=g1O74i8W0YXWew80

[@damienlejeune7840]

Prisoners in Paradise is a gem you can still listening to nowadays.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Just listened to it today--great album.

[@patrickreeves4650]

@@HairMetalGuru419 if you go on to youtube and search for "the lebaron boys", you can find the original versions and unreleased songs that europe recorded for the prisoner's record. that album got delayed so many times because the label kept rejecting it. crazy story on how long it truly took for europe between out of this world and prisoners to come out.

[@Jmc349]

XYZ Hungry. Bad ass album. 1991.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Okay, shit, I really need to revisit that album.

[@billyaltvater2238]

Did Hair metal even die at all? I don't think it did. It just took a long nap. This might be a controversial opinion, but I love me some Grunge from time to time depending on my mood.

[@lucaswilson1701]

It just went underground. But even then imo, 1991 was not the death of Hair Metal. Loads of major label stuff came out for years after. I could still find 5 major label hair metal albums released in 1996!

[@HairMetalGuru419]

There are definitely some grunge songs I like. And I agree on the nap thing. I just hated that most (maybe not all) of the grunge bands absolutely shit on the hair metal bands.

[@billyaltvater2238]

@@HairMetalGuru419 Its because they were the hot new popular fad at the time gave most of them a Gene Simmons complex if you catch my drift

[@brianlinville5420]

Checkout erotic suicide 1994 glam band from Oklahoma

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Hey, Brian, I know I've listened to the Abusement Park album in the past... gotta give it another go here. Thanks for watching, my man!

[@gellargod]

Kane Roberts is a killer saw him with Alice Cooper on the Raise Your Fists tour. Finally some love for XYZ. A band you are sadly missing are Pretty Maids!! They kick ass and have a huge catalog!!

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I need to revisit Pretty Maids--they get a lot of mentions in the comments here. Thanks, my man, for always supporting the channel, I appreciate it.s, my man, for always supporting the channel, I appreciate it.

[@gellargod]

@@HairMetalGuru419 Love all that you do. Yes Pretty Maids are a total kick ass band

[@hothjawa2509]

Don’t think I have heard you mention the SPREAD EAGLE debut album if not please check it out, great show BTW

[@HairMetalGuru419]

You're right... I need to revisit them... it's been a while, there should be a spot for them somewhere in here. Thanks for watching, my man!

[@leonardocoleman8394]

Bang Tango - Dancing On Coals 👌

[@williamlevin239]

This is James Anthony another great video love you guys always learn alot my albums Great White Hooked Dangerous Toys Hellacious Acres Skid Row Slave To The Grind Mcqueen Street self titled album Danger Danger Screw It Britny Fox Bite Down Hard Bullet Boys Freak Show Mr.Big Lean Into It Tesla Psychotic Supper Enuff Znuff Strength Alice Cooper Hey Stoopid David Lee Roth Little Ain't Enough Tuff What Gose Around Comes Around Kix Hot Wire White Lion Main Attraction Europe Prisoners In Paradise LA Guns Hollywood Vampires Those are my pics as always thanks for the great content you guys rule

[@HairMetalGuru419]

James, great pics, my man!! Thanks for always supporting the channel, Brother, I really appreciate it.

[@raygunromance772]

Kik Tracee, D2, Second Coming, Hot Wire, the "F$CK" album from VH. So many great picks. Good stuff guys!

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Thanks, my man! Really appreciate your support...

[@Jayhawk9]

1.Skid Row-slave to the grind. (MONSTER ALBUM!) 2.Tesla-psychotic supper (Tesla does no wrong) 3.Van Halen-for unlawful carnal knowledge (my favorite VH with Sammy) 4.Ozzy-no more tears (One of Oz’s best) 5.Kik Tracee-no rules (Very underrated band) 6.Kix-hot wire(should’ve been released a year earlier) 7.Shotgun Messiah-second coming(another underrated album) 8.Enuff Z’Nuff-strength(it was 91 and the record label just quit on them from the beginning) 9.Richie Sambora-stranger in this town(I know it’s not hair metal but I’m throwing it in there because it deserves to be mentioned lol) 10.Britny Fox-bite down hard(could be their best) Alternates Junkyard-6’s 7’s and 9’s XYZ-hungry Big House-Self titled Tyketto-don’t come easy Baton Rouge-Lights out on the playground

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Great list, my man, I love most every album you have here... need to revisit the XYZ album.

[@MetalAsylumNJ]

Also the third Britny Fox album Bite Down Hard again with great heavy crunchy guitars and big hooks.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I fuckin' LOVE that album.

[@richardkidney5738]

Enjoyable watch, checked out some of the bands I didn't know ( thanks for that). Not much of a grunge fan either although I really like Pearl Jams first two albums, also I rather like the blues and love the harmonica, cant remember who it was ( maybe Babylon AD ) someone had a song with a banjo in, loved that as well

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Thanks, my man, for watching and the kind words! Seriously appreciated.

[@lucaswilson1701]

Please do 1996-2000! Maybe just a couple each. I'd love to see someone show that there were still stuff coming out in those years

[@HairMetalGuru419]

You are absolutely right, Brother. I will make it happen. Thanks for the suggestion!

[@krowochron]

Huh. Never heard Disneyland After Dark, only know lots of photos of their bassist with 2-string basses. Never knew they've been around that long, or indeed that they would be metal at all.

[@scottlandry4626]

Hey Guru.The Wild Horses/Eyes section got me thinking…what about “right album/wrong single” video?

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Scott, that is a GREAT fuckin' idea, Brother. Gonna add it to the list. Thanks man.

[@martintrottaaiello5367]

1. Skid Row - Slave to The Grind 2. Alice Cooper - Hey Stoopid 3. Tesla - Psychottic Supper 4. D.A.D.- Riskin it All 5. Mr. Big - Lean into it 6. Kane Roberts - Saints And Sinners 7. Ozzy - No More Tears 8. L.A.Guns - Hollywood Vampires 9. McQueen Street 10. Asphalt Ballet

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Great list, my man, I love these picks.

[@damienlejeune7840]

Dare (Darren Wharton's band) "Blood from stone", all killers, no fillers album.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I know of that album, but I need to revisit it. Thanks for the recommendation!

[@kikiki4592]

The song If My Mind Is Evil is one of my favorite Vito songs, he just rips on it. Would love to see James Lomenzo to get Dave/Megadeth to cover it. Mike seems to release some inner Dave in his singing in parts of this song, would fit in a Megadeth set perfect, imo.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Thanks for sharing, and for watching...

[@mikeb.7183]

Fun Fact for you, Michael Lean from Tuff once played in the same band as Wiley Arnet from Sacred Riech. Also Todd Chase from Tuff is the younger brother of Kenny Chaison from Keel and the oldest brother Greg Chaison was in Badlands.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Hey, man, thanks for the info! I know about the Chaisson family, but didn't know that Micheal Lean info. Thanks for watching!

[@Hwy13La]

I bought Skid Slave and VH FUCK the same day at a Sam Goody at the mall . Summer before I would enter high school . How good was Runaround on VH , the Skid record by far would be their best work . MTV found grunge , seeked it out , rolled dice with Teen Spirit and subsequently got even more richer , influential, and would lead to them becoming the shitbox they exist as now . Bands from the hard rock hair metal scene ruled for a solid decade , made great records and rolled great tours .

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Hair Metal/Hard Rock had a longer run than most genres, and that's a testament to how catchy these songs actually were.

[@davej.meister5421]

I like good grunge bands like Alice In Chains and Soundgarden. I don't care what anyone has to say about the genre.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I have no problem with that at all. I just didn't like people who thought you could like both genres.

[@davej.meister5421]

@@HairMetalGuru419 I don't like every band from both genres. Just the ones who have solid classic rock or metal roots. All four members of Poison had no problem with the Seattle scene, even Bret, whose closest friends included AIC's Jerry Cantrell and Mike Inez. I've heard a lot of glam era icons say if not for Seattle, they probably would have not been able to spend time with loved ones as much as they wanted. And some had children they wanted to free up time to see.

[@mikeb.7183]

Bang Tango Dancin on Coals was my go-to in 91, that and Mother Love Bone Apple. MLB was not Grunge, and I am not sure what would have happened had Andy lived. For one thing we probably wouldn't have to be listening to Eddie Vedder

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I tried the MLB album, but didn't get into it. Maybe need to give it another go.

[@patrickreeves4650]

i lived for that bang tango dancin on coals record back in high school. didn't get into it until 1994-1995 when i got it in a cut-out bin for $2. i listened to it so much, and drove all of my friends crazy trying to get them to like it too. it was different than most of the genre, but it rocked. always loved the song "dressed up vamp".

[@NYUK-x-4]

Ryan said at 2:45 and You said at 3:45 I agree. I was 16 in 92 and I was abused as a kid, like if my stepdad found out I was watching MTV I got my ass kicked, so seeing Motley, Poison, Warrant etc. on stage was MY escape and it was exciting and then here came this godamn shit where they dressed sad and depressed, fuck that garbage shit! I lived that depressed shit as a child and it wasnt fun. Most of the kids I knew that listened to grunge and heavier metal that made fun of my music "hair metal/glam" were kids that had both parents and had all the new toys and lived in the good part of town, had dinner everyday etc. Touches a nerve with me.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Hey, Brother, thanks for sharing that story... seriously. I'm right with you. Hair Metal allowed people like us to escape from the bullshit of real life, and it seemed like grunge only wanted to focus on that. Not for me, man. Thanks for all your support, Brother, I appreciate it.

[@Mr19842006]

Hey guru, check out a band from 91 call Tall Stories...lmk what you think

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I know I've listened to that in the past, but I will definitely revisit it... thanks for the recommendation, my man.

[@steel_horse7570]

1991 is probably the best year in Rock/metal. I think Ryan needs needs to open his ears a bit - he asks where are those bands now? Well Pearl Jam are currently selling out stadiums in US and Europe so..........I love both hair metal/rock and Grunge but will always lean towards pre-grunge metal/rock. Seb is a grade A dick but those 2 albums (even though I love the 3rd as well) are pure Gold! You missed LA Guns - Hollywood Vampires The Cult - Ceremony Metallica - The Black Album

[@1Vettefan]

Pearl Jam's new album is pretty good. I like grunge/alternative as well as glam rock too. There are great new bands every generation IMO. I love that you remembered The Cult's Ceremony album. Phenomenal band.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Pearl Jam is definitely not struggling to get by these days, haha. My only problem with grunge is the way a lot of those guys just shit on the hair metal bands--I wanted them to be able to co-exist.

[@steel_horse7570]

@@HairMetalGuru419 I think the hair metal scene died because there was just too many bands that wanted to sound like the most popular ones and the albums were full of inferior songs and crappy ballads.

[@ciaranmeeks9431]

Great episode! Here's a confession of sorts - As much as I have nothing but contempt for the wokeish subculture that arose from Grunge, I do own and still enjoy particular albums/tracks from that era. Alice In Chains will always be standouts, as well as the first Pearl Jam album, Soundgarden's Badmotorfinger, and Smashing Pumpkins' Mellon Collie double album. Keep in mind though that this is coming from a 50 year old guy with a collection of approximately 5000+ Cds encompassing everything from Hair Metal to Thrash, Death, Power, and Black Metal, to Classic Rock, Prog, Jazz Fusion, and Soul. So I have pretty diverse tastes and am kind of a tough one to easily 'box in'. Thing is, when that whole Grunge thing started I was about 17-18. To this day I remember how weird it was one week when I came in to school in the morning and - literally overnight - guys who had been wearing Poison shirts the day before were suddenly in plaid shirts and Doc Martens. LOL! It really was THAT sudden. Never seen anything like it before or since. And hey - I'll be honest, I soon followed suit! Nobodys perfect, right!?! LOL! My friends and I had always been the 'Heavy Metal guys' - I.e. Maiden, Metallica, Megadeth, Anthrax, Slayer - but I was also the ONE who was deeply into Warrant, Slaughter, Danger Danger, Winger, and Trixter as well. So for me, adding this new 90s stuff to my repertoire was no big deal. I could never understand why ALL of it couldn't coexist, and frankly, I still don't get it. I mean, it's not like you want to eat the same meal every day, so why would you listen to the same music all the time!?! After all, music is food for the soul and different moods/states of mind require different flavours of tunage to satisfy. That said, at this age, in retrospect as far as the whole 'Hair vs. Grunge' war is concerned, while I can still appreciate certain offerings from the Grunge era, overall I don't feel it's aged very well. The positive tone and message of the Hair Metal bands is imo FAR more universal, memorable, and uplifting to anything that slithered out of that weird Seattle scene. At the end of the day, I think most people want to pump their fist to a catchy, pounding riff, or feel their heartstrings pulled by a soulful ballad than to wallow in the monodrone, shoegazing monotony of fake 90s suburban despair. For me, Hair Metal takes the win by a country fucking mile!I

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Hey, Brother, thanks for the great comment. And I'm right there with you... not necessarily with the grunge bands, though I did like some of the songs. But, in the '90s I really got into bands like Soul Asylum, Collective Soul, Gin Blossoms, Smashing Pumpkins and shit like that. But I still followed and bought the releases from my favorite hair metal bands. What I hated about grunge was mainly the way they shit all over that genre of music... I thought they could all co-exist, but grunge was having none of that. Hey, man, you should start a channel... you obviously have a ton of knowledge about music! Or maybe you wanna do an episode on mine sometime.... have I already mentioned this to you? My memory sucks haha. Let me know....

[@ciaranmeeks9431]

@@HairMetalGuru419 Thats a very gracious invitation, man. I'd be more than happy to make an appearance if youre into it. Back in the early 00's I wrote briefly for an online Metal 'zine and I worked at a CD store that specialized in Hard Rock/Metal for a couple of years too. I can talk about this stuff all day long! Is there a way to get in touch outside of this forum?

[@AlphaAstraAqua]

Atlantic pulled the funding on Shadow King to self sabotage it so Lou Gramm would return to Foreigner. He told me this himself after one of his solo shows in Biloxi, MS a few years back.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I could absolutely see that being the reason. Atlantic didn't want that cash cow on hiatus... thanks for sharing that story, my man.

[@chadsensei-ue6jn]

Grunge was all about selling anti-depressants to the masses. But Motorhead and Motley Crue were still kicking. Backyard Babies formed in 1987. Monster Magnet in 1989.

[@ThundersMcCoy]

I'll say it until I die: Grunge was a Psyop. Look at the politics of all of those bands & look where we're at today. I saw Tim Skold a few months back & he played Living Without You. He has never put out a bad record regardless of what genre he's doing.

[@Chaz4543]

You're forgetting that lots of kids and teens back then who liked grunge didnt care about politics or know anything about it so the politics of those bands whatever they were, didnt really matter to most people. You're also forgetting most younger people are left wing/liberal anyway. I dont think a 14 or 16 yr old in 1991 was complaining about politics in music. I wasnt.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I've heard that theory before, my man. Who knows? Yeah, Tim is a rock'n'roll lifer.

[@davej.meister5421]

Foreigner's Usual Heat album from 1991 could pass off as hair metal. Johnny Edwards is a veteran of various hair bands.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Solid point.

[@davej.meister5421]

@@HairMetalGuru419 The biggest hit from Usual Heat "Lowdown And Dirty" is a heavy banger in the veins of glam metal.

[@simonbell9107]

Ratt nobody rides for free, classic song from 1991 👍🍺

[@patriottex4813]

I call it the Grungepocalypse. I hate grunge then, I hate grunge now. It's atonal depressing garbage.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Haha, I am right with ya.

[@offtherealm5438]

Early 90s for me, Hair Metal was no longer on my radar by then....I had converted to Thrash in mid 80s after hearing Girls, Girls, Girls, Dancing Under Cover and Night Songs....no thanks. And hearing Firehouse didn't help at all. For the record I hate Grunge. Also feel the industry started to push and dictate HipHop to the masses....and my heart was broken when they canceled Headbangers Ball.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I hear you. I gravitated to a lot of newer bands as well. And every genre ends... that's the way time goes. But grunge, yeah, I never found the love for that. Hey, thanks for watching and commenting, my man, I appreciate it.

[@trevor-johnsen]

The only nice things I can say about "Grunge"... A) nirvana had some good punk rock. The stupid Grunge aspects are pure cheese, but their punk rock side was cool. B) Pearl Jam's "Ten" had some cool guitar work, like you can tell Gossard & Mccready had a big hand in the writing of the debut before Ed-Ved took over. C) Chris Cornel had an epic voice, but the music was boring and the darkness of the Grunge image is cheesy. Anyone who makes fun of the cheesyness of hair metal isn't paying attention to the cheesyness of Grunge and all the stuff that came after. Hair metal is at least fun, thank you guys for always bringing that up.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Great comment, and I'm right with you... most people know I'm a punk fan, and I like that shit. And people who think grunge wasn't playing a role in their way of dressing and writing were clueless. Thanks for watching, my man!

[@flyerbob7525]

Hey guys just wondering what happened to Havana Black they had a great album in 91

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Shit, that's a great question. I wonder what those guys did after that...

[@leonardocoleman8394]

Warrior Soul - Drugs, God and the New Republic ✊

[@arpadmogyorodi3754]

Some say Blood From Stone is the worst Dare album since it is hard rock not AOR. I don't think at all. This is their best. Such a great album.

[@user-ex9lb8mq1d]

Were you able to check out the band Circus album coming for you?

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I did! Shit, I'm glad you commented here. Yep, great album, seriously. Also found some old live footage of them as well. Thanks for the great recommendation!

[@user-ex9lb8mq1d]

@@HairMetalGuru419 awesome I am glad you checked them out and liked there cd that’s cool you saw the live stuff good live band another good band roxx outlaws fools & thieves also a band called rough justice check out the song called cheap disguise love the channel awesome content

[@joeb2588]

I feel the exact same way about Grunge as Ryan does! Did not, and never will like it.

[@Weareconnected167]

@hairmetakguru. Have you ever heard of Australia’s ROSE TATTOO, GNR were huge fans.

[@richardkidney5738]

Saw Rose Tattoo at Reading festival way back in 1982, they were rather good. So during the set they were getting pelted with beer cans and Angry started singing " stop throwing them fucking cans " instead of the lyrics, everyone stopped but my mate decided to throw another one not knowing there were a few Aussies next to us, anyway one of them punched me mate, he didn't throw anymore

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Oh, hell yeah, I know of Rose Tattoo. Aren't they from Australia? I think I have a framed ad for their "Assault & Batter" album from '81. Cool band!

[@nickfisher6410]

5 years of the same gang choruses really got annoying and redundant. Thank God for the 90s

[@HairMetalGuru419]

So we could have 5 years of musicians bitching about how mean their parents were and wishing heroin was cheaper?

[@lucaswilson1701]

Why do people come here to hate. There's plenty of shows about the music you like. Go support them rather than trying to ruin someone else's enjoyment.

[@cartergleason836]

He said where are all the grunge bands in stadiums their all dead

[@Kentucky_gurl47]

That’s what I was thinking… Layne, Scott, Chris, Kurt.. all deceased

[@cartergleason836]

@@Kentucky_gurl47 exactly

[@Chaz4543]

Grunge was underground music that wasnt made or intended for mass mainstream consumption and that only happened because the major record labels pumped lots of money into it. It was never meant to be stadium or arena rock. They're all dead because they werent cut out for the mainstream spotlight but they still took that major label money anyway so no wonder what happened. At the end of the day, hair metal and grunge were popular because the major labels signed these bands and sunk tons of money into them and that can not be disputed. Hair metal had more mainstream appeal but without that major label money and being played on the radio and MTV it still goes nowhere.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

@@Kentucky_gurl47 That's what happens when all you sing about is how shitty life is.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Valid point, my man. The music was so fun they all ended up killing themselves.

[@toddgambrel4316]

Alright. First off. How the fuck does the best album of 1991, maybe the best album ever, Mr. Big Lean Into It not make either of your lists? Having said that, my honorable mentions: Asphalt Ballet - S/T Neverland - S/t Thunder - Laughing on Judgement Day

[@mikeb.7183]

Asphalt Ballet was / is one of my favorite records still

[@richardkidney5738]

Gonna relisten to Asphalt Ballet

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I love Asphalt Ballet and Thunder--need to revisit that Neverland album. As far as Mr. Big... I LIKE Mr. Big... but for some reason it never went any deeper than that for me.

[@toddgambrel4316]

@@HairMetalGuru419 Yeah fair enough. I was a bit drunk on that first comment and Mr. Big is my favorite band of all time. Love your channel dude and I went from thinking I was a guru to realizing I have a long way to go. Keep it up!

[@HairMetalGuru419]

@@toddgambrel4316 No worries at all, my man! Appreciate the kind words!

[@darrenparata1710]

No such thing as "Hair Metal." It's either good music or bad music. The image was secondary.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Here we go... Tell you what, when Hair Nation changes their name I'll change mine.

[@darrenparata1710]

Why not be a trend setter, and make the first move? It's quite obvious that these bands were musicians first, then added the image for added efffect.

[@HairMetalGuru419]

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[@misterknightowlandco]

Dude wtf was with you and the lack of love for VH? They literally created the genre we’re talking about here!!! 😂

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Haha, fuck! Look, I REALLY like VH. I just don't worship them like some other bands. But I completely agree that without VH we probably never get hair metal, and for that I will be eternally grateful.

[@DeadShred9]

Glam Metal NOT F'in Hair the record Co. made Hair Metal up to hurt / make fun of the Bands we all Love !!! Do some research Dudes come on !!

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Ummm, is this even fuckin' English?

[@ashesantics]

😂😂😂😂​@@HairMetalGuru419

[@JohnnyBlade-de7id]

Guru says MAMA TOLD ME NOT TO COME.so kick rocks

[@johnpierce4976]

Tuff’s song American Hair Band is a classic.

[@JohnnyBlade-de7id]

How about some love for Kingdom Come There's a whole lot of albums you may not know about

[@HairMetalGuru419]

I need to revisit their stuff... for some reason they never grabbed me back in the day.

[@patrickreeves4650]

twilight cruiser is a massive album. so good.

[@JohnnyBlade-de7id]

Good job Guru.. another great video.. check it out I just uploaded some Vinnie Vincent invasion...and Johnny Crash Bang Tango

[@HairMetalGuru419]

Awesome, thanks, Brother! I'll check it out soon!