Haley Strategic/Onward Research's newest chest rig. Worthy of 600 dollars, or hype beast nonsense?

Haley Strategic and Onward Research are known for innovation. But does their latest offering offer the same value at the price of a fully scaled plate carrier? Let's find out.
Forgive the audio quality, it seemed like suddenly there was a rally race going on off the main road nearby.
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[@HaleyStrategicPartners]

So the AMP was originally designed as an upgrade for the TRMP. You can turn it into a chestrig if you choose but its far more economical to use one of our existing chestrigs and add expander wings than building the TRMP from the ground up but its a nice option to have if thats your main system.

[@Senpai_B]

@@sectorseven07they didn’t answer the actual question. It’s the same as spiritus. This shit is not as expensive as they make it

[@sectorseven07]

If it makes you feel any better here's an update- I no longer own it. @@Senpai_B

[@scottndawnkirk5648]

I appreciate the fact that you do what you said at the start, "let's get right into it." No lengthy into, no overbearing music throughout. Solid, well informed and informing review. 🤙

[@rjoshm20]

Depends on how much looking tacticool on the gram is worth to you

[@imacenurface]

Intro perfect, description perfect, keep it real Thomas - keith -AZ. We destroyed a side by side up at crown king and blasted on some horns it was a bad ass trip...

[@sectorseven07]

It was an incredible trip

[@RobertTheTexan2]

This video sold me on your channel. Nothing better than a straight forward common sense (for us) approach. Thanks for keeping it BLUF brother.

[@dannymorrison1019]

Thanks for the review if you don't mind me asking what belt at you running I like the fact it looks like a one piece an its not as bulky as the older padded war belts

[@sectorseven07]

I'll be doing a video on that soon!

[@grs1118]

how did you mount the whip antenna to the chest/shoulder strap to keep it from flailing around?

[@sectorseven07]

It depends on what straps are pictured. In some of the promo pictures I have a lunar concepts HX strap which has laser cut molle in it that I then looped shock cord through to hold onto the antenna. In the video itself I have a H strap from mayflower that comfortably allows you to just shove it in an antenna keeper.

[@bradleycampbell1634]

It’s hard to make sense of Haley’s pricing strategy. If a d3 assembled rig is $200 bucks and the trmp crx is $160 how do you justify the $50 on average for any extra pouch you want to add to the trmp? There’s no rhyme or reason behind their pricing

[@spartan117gw]

That includes the Backpad and harness that's not bad for a basic Chestrig. Keep in mind the TRMP was designed as a placard first.

[@tylertapp131]

I love quality kit and new advancements in gear but hate how the industries feel the need to see how high of prices they can sellem for because the names behind the brands.

[@sectorseven07]

I think that plays a factor in this but I also think that they also integrated design features that literally do cost a lot to make and for little reason other than it looking cool or being charming.

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

@@sectorseven07 I also think a large part of the expense is IIRC Haley makes them in his own business and they have next to no CNC sewing capabilities. They are basically doing it entirely on manual machines. They lack the volume of sales so they haven't scaled up to more efficient manufacturing.

[@spartan117gw]

@@DaveSmith-cp5kj lol definitely not true

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

@@spartan117gw If he does have CNC sewing capabilities then I definitely agree is wildly overpriced. You are paying for brand and not quality at that point.

[@spartan117gw]

@@DaveSmith-cp5kj unless you've been there then you'd know. Cost for materials has also gone up and will continue to do so.

[@TheLoneRanger745]

Thank you for telling people to have and use a hand held flash light FIRST, most of them think they can point a firearm weapon's light as there I.D. which is FELONY and then they take your shit ! GREAT LESSON GEAR TALK !

[@sectorseven07]

My two brothers in law no longer talk to me because of a situation where they ended up out front of my house at 2am in a white van and I circled the back of the house with my rifle and shined it in their general direction to ID them. While I didn't explicitely point it at them, to their eyes I did. And it taught me a hard and shitty lesson that I should have led with a handheld. Ever since then I've become much more serious about it. Having two brothers in law that don't talk to you is a major problem.

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

@@sectorseven07 I agree with the handheld, but that aside your brothers in law are being unreasonable. That's a sketchy and abnormal situation. If anything I would be happy my sister's husband is switched on to protect my sister.

[@DaveSmith-cp5kj]

Also a case for night vision in home defense roles. No need to illuminate or point anything in most situations, and the time to the subject being aware of your presence means you can take your time to observe their intentions if they are strangers.

[@sectorseven07]

@@DaveSmith-cp5kj That's what the fuck I've been saying!

[@sectorseven07]

@@DaveSmith-cp5kj Yeah it's just time consuming putting my night vision on like that. But it would have definitely saved me the trouble.

[@robertthetexan8537]

Ferro does make a good dangler, I’ve got a Beez Combat dangler, (and a couple of plate carriers). Their gear is top notch. And several years ago Beez made a smaller Baofeng pouch after i showed some interest really while most radio pouches were PRC-148/152. Solid company

[@sectorseven07]

I like Beez. I recently upgraded my AVS with a cummerbund from them and dig it a lot. I came up with a really innovative way to swap rapidly between rifleman and MG loadouts with them that I may feature on my channel at some point.

[@ordinary_american]

Solid and upfront review dude. Subb'd.

[@sectorseven07]

Thanks man! I try to remain unbiased even if I would give a finger to be friends with GT and TH.

[@ordinary_american]

@@sectorseven07 You're good dude, it's not a knock on them at all. I'm sure they're happy to get actual feedback and it'll probably get incorporated into the next iteration. They're both at the point where they aren't doing this for the money, because this kit won't be a widespread success. I think they do this more for the cool opportunity they have available where they can put all their thoughts and ideas on paper, refine it, and turn it into something tangible and usable, and have a way for fans to participate in that, and if it helps someone in the field, that's added satisfaction. Most of us like to tinker or DIY, but we don't have access to state of the art machines and umlimited nylon, otherwise we'd all love to create our own customized gear. It's not hypebeast to me if it fills a role for someone, but yeah I agree with you, for everyone who needs quality gear but doesn't have unlimited funds, the money is better spent elsewhere.

[@BASE5NYC]

Damn dude, it's nylon... They're really going big on the name brand thing at $600. Probably could have gotten the same thing, same quality from Helikon or Spiritus without the fancy label. Good review though. 🤙🏼🇺🇲

[@sectorseven07]

Spiritus will run about the same for a fully set up rig these days if you get all the bells and whistles. Helikon is airsoft gear.

[@EOTechN9ne]

I agree with the tacky one liners. I hate that stuff even on normal clothes.

[@coolbriz7341]

Awesome this backstrap ! Where can we find it ? I didn't see anything on Velocity's website :(

[@sectorseven07]

It comes with the mayflower gen iv rig. Im not entirely sure if they sell them independently however the t rex arms elastic back strap is functionally very similar but slightly superior due to covering more surface area.

[@coolbriz7341]

@@sectorseven07 Perfect, I'll take a look, thank you for your quick response!

[@tylerthomas9059]

You don't have to spend $600 dollars for that chest rig to be usable. You literally bought every attachment you could. That's like buying a vehicle and adding every option available then complaining because it now cost twice the price.

[@sectorseven07]

Interesting stance. What would you put on it to make it perfect for you?

[@cstgraphpads2091]

@@sectorseven07 It isn't that interesting of a stance, but they're not wrong. It's $160 in the base form, so calling it a "$600 rig" when you're clearly talking about more than just the rig itself is disingenuous at best and deliberately lying at worst.

[@sectorseven07]

@@cstgraphpads2091 The TRMP is not the rig. The TRMP is the triple rifle mag placard. That's a mag placard. It doesn't really become a "rig" until you've scaled it as such.

[@johncancel5116]

Haley stuff is overpriced. Does it work? Is the quality good? Yes. But Haley tries to be too proprietary and is too expensive. I do not buy their stuff.

[@mathewfitzpatrick5645]

​@@johncancel5116 Agreed, at best HSP stuff is iterative improvements, AT BEST. I'd still like to take an HSP course at least to see if Haley is a knowledgeable shooter, or just a pseudoscience "IG militia" hype man. ("Never meet your heroes" comes to mind here.)

[@The_kookclub]

Is it worth it? Maybe not but damn it’s drippy!

[@sectorseven07]

Yeah it's definitely the pinnacle of my chest rig collection lol

[@Nick-hm9rh]

feels like a cashgrab.

[@lwilson1234]

I've used the shit out of my 100ish dollar rig for years and it's still running soooo... yeah.

[@5five6x45]

what radio is that my friend? Thank you great video.

[@sectorseven07]

It's just a baofeng with an extended battery and great plains creations exoskeleton

[@5five6x45]

@@sectorseven07 thank you !

[@EdwardOrnelas]

That's a lot of pouches haha

[@texasraider8913]

Extremely Underated

[@texasraider8913]

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[@mathewfitzpatrick5645]

Sorry to be an ass, but you can edit it to say that in the orginal comment.

[@chrisdeeulio1204]

I would try putting the front rifle mag directly center, with pistol mags on both sides just cause I'm OCD.........

[@sectorseven07]

I ended up swapping to the t Rex rig and then parting the HSP pouches out into other stuff, and then selling the actual trmp and amp. It's just not for me.

[@zq3733]

why u dont buy SS mk5? it seems like more suit you

[@sectorseven07]

I like the indexing speed of the HSP. However Spiritus and Haley play really well together and I may do a Mk5 type build in the future.

[@coryshort8674]

Are you gonna keep it?

[@sectorseven07]

oh yeah!

[@tomrobinson7817]

Complains that the small integrated miscellaneous pouch is not a dedicated ifak dangler.

[@shiftysmgi5333]

Eventually Haley has to give their customers more value for their dollar. I like their stuff. I have a micro rig and an og d3 rig with the stuff it pouch.. But I also didn’t buy them full price. I think they did well enough with their rifle mag pouch and the versatility, but they definitely limited themselves to a smaller group of people who run different calibers. The price isn’t worth the product for those who only run 5.56… which is the majority of users. The thorax… major flop. Not worth the price for what you get. 600 bucks for an all encompassing scalable chest rig with cutesy words on it… you can get a full spiritus rig for half that, sans the one liners. Just doesn’t make sense.

[@sectorseven07]

Yeah. I don't disagree. If it weren't for me building out an AR 10 I'd still be in a comfort zone with the Mayflower rig for sure. I like this one a lot but I think it's a little disingenuous for Haley to act like it's for the people when it's clearly priced out to be cost prohibitive to the vast majority.

[@spartanpatriot3163]

@@sectorseven07 there’s plenty of 308 platforms at more then half the price. Their heavy rig can be had for around 150 bucks.

[@sectorseven07]

@@spartanpatriot3163 Yeah I've run the heavy. But it didn't have the exact features I wanted, and I like the idea of being able to build it out piece by piece. I do not, however, like the associated cost.

[@spartan117gw]

A Thorax with shoulder pads, cummerbund, and plate bags is the 369 price not $600...

[@shiftysmgi5333]

@@spartan117gw yeah I’m not referring to the thorax being 600. I’m referring to his chest rig. And I’m also saying the thorax isn’t worth the price for what you get.

[@Crackshotsteph]

$600 for fuel? $600 for food? $600 for wifey, girlfriend, side chick or a decent hooker? $600 for ammo? $600 for a new pistol? $600 for a chest rig? Oh man decisions decisions decisions. You know what I'll buy the $600 chest rig.

[@sectorseven07]

Bonus answer- all of them!

[@miletello1]

🤣

[@Lostandhappy]

Don't tell him how much your night vision cost. Lol

[@sinsick1196]

What's the point in a chest rig if you need that kind of equipment why would you just not wear a plate carrier with the equipment on it

[@sectorseven07]

Different environments, different missions, different threats call for different loadouts.

[@spartanpatriot3163]

Chest rigs also weigh a hell of a lot less and you can move in them better depending on the carrier.

[@jtorivio0311]

What are you using this for? To me that’s way too much shit for a chest rig. That’s what I would put on my plate carrier.

[@sectorseven07]

Word

[@citizenoftheninthdivision]

Still can't seem to destroy my helikon tex. Good stuff though. 👍🏻

[@garrettzkool63]

the pouch line of HSP products is insanely overpriced. the smoke/flash/multitool pouches are wayyy overpriced imo. $45 for a laser cut smoke grenade pouch with simple non-adjustable velcro closure is a terrible value. laser cut materials and methods are supposed to bring the cost down, not up. why is a tactical tailor smoke grenade pouch so much cheaper and overbuilt? thats my biggest issue with HSP products, but also not every item they sell is overpriced. just my 0.02

[@sectorseven07]

Definitely get where you're coming from. There's much more economic competitors out there, some of which are actually small businesses run by one man shops where undoubtedly the overhead is way more.

[@spartanpatriot3163]

I like Mike and his Daddy but Jesus Christ there’s a lot of really good options at a 1/4 the price, I don’t care if it has every option available $600 is outrageous but hey them fan boy will pay double that.

[@sectorseven07]

I really doubt this setup is going to be commercially successful to be honest. But maybe that's just me. I do love the setup, but every complaint people have about it is valid and ultimately 600 dollars is a huge buy in for the features it gives.

[@spartanpatriot3163]

@@sectorseven07 just like Surefire, Eotech, Trijicon, and soon to be Vortex passing that military contract price onto the civilian consumer in which I’m not a fan of.

[@sectorseven07]

I'm still happy with thousand dollar razors personally. I do think ACOGs have held onto the 1400 dollar price tag for far too long. Thank god for the used market.

[@Mr.Plight]

Algorithm comment

[@williamp.4617]

Yeah tbh these modular chest rigs aren't that hot, everyone sets them up the same anyway. Velocity uw gang

[@sectorseven07]

Yeah, I could see from a military perspective having a lot more leeway to set them up differently because of access to different platforms. From a civilian context it's like, pistol mag, multi tool, radio, a few mags. Not much else you can do.

[@Jack-oz4bf]

They price it so high because the majority of these rigs probably go to government contractor type's, and probably special operations that actually have the money to buy this stuff.

[@sectorseven07]

I could see private purchases happening, but not any major government contracts. I know that companies like LBT have the pricing structure they have because of that, but if the government was going to do any substantial bid they'd nix stuff like the laser etched sayings on the inside of the pouch in order to save money.

[@spartan117gw]

That's actually inaccurate. The rigs are fully built out. Even the Micro which has modularity has some baked in pouches.

[@johncancel5116]

Haley is too expensive and being too proprietary seems like a trap for the user. I do not buy their products (soft goods) for that reason. Unpopular opinion: their rigs are overrated and have too many pistol pouches. For the money, there are a dozen other companies offering better, not proprietary, and cheaper. Not too late to change some things up Travis!

[@gansior4744]

How tf molle and Velcro is proprietary?

[@bradleycampbell1634]

I’m also curious as to what’s proprietary. Also in regards to “too many pistol pouches”, you realize that the kit in the video is fully modular and can be set up with whatever you want on it right? What he has in the video is simply the trmp placard with all the accessories added

[@mortalmonke8844]

Just don’t be poor

[@sectorseven07]

Yeah that's the generally preferred method of things