Half in the Bag Episode 133: Blade Runner 2049

Mike and Jay discuss Blade Runner 2049, the sequel to the box office bomb Blade Runner! But I'm sure it'll be a hit THIS TIME, right?!

[@Mind_Idiot]

"you're waiting an hour for the first action sequence" Bautista in the first scene.

[@mattrendell1]

"If taking you in is an option i'd much prefer that to the alternative"

[@thebigh4752]

Yea I was gonna say, there is some brutal kitchen action in there. MIKE AND JAY ARE FRAUDS!

[@dibdap2373]

Interestingly, that scene was actually from an old draft of the original Blade Runner, slightly tweaked.

[@1bluehammock]

@dibdap237 totes. Hampton Fancher ftw

[@TaglitoFilms]

Best scene in the movie IMO

[@lemonlord0132]

I can't believe they made 2,049 of these movies

[@jenniehenzel6609]

omg vote this comment up more everybody

[@Sophia-vk5bq]

Its called fan fiction, thank you very much.

[@ProtoTypeFM]

They didn't, it's just that the first one is approximately 2,048 movies long

[@f.d.english5080]

That's a shot load of trailers yo

[@jeremyclements6906]

It happened again?!

[@joshhowlett6790]

Mike: "I'd like to bring up Star Trek" Jay: *dies inside*

[@SimonCoulton]

Still the best cinema experience I’ve ever had. Midnight showing, VMAX, no one else in the cinema, it was like being transported into the Blade Runner universe.

[@SuperEggsNBacon]

Damn you might as well have been Ryan Gosling LMAO

[@jasonsantiago6308]

We did the same and I agree

[@Braham_the_Terror]

That sounds incredible

[@linkinparkrulz2275]

Yeah the audio was something else, seeing it on the big screen was a once in a lifetime experience, the Hans Zimmer score was insanely beautiful at its loudest

[@ggt47]

And for me it was Dune. Proof Denis Villeneuve films are made for the big screen.

[@sleeplessindefatigable6385]

Mike: It was depressing and miserable, I felt my soul being sucked out of my body every second I watched it. Jay: I know right, I fucking love that shit.

[@halinanowak781]

Kek, spot on

[@manulito2]

It's always funny to me, how cynicial and depressed looking Mike likes his Sci-Fi more optimistic, while happy, cheerful Jay loves his fucked up post-apocalyptic stuff

[@lsxtom6316]

Jay isn't happy and cheerful. He just has a joyful demeanor because that's what fucked up people do to hide. Trust me! Takes one to know one.

[@gregoryyoung1141]

Opposites attract, I suppose.

[@chunkymilk]

when you’re depressed, you crave optimistic fiction. when you’re happy, you crave pessimistic fiction.

[@lanabuchner6888]

Godzilla almost had a stroke trying to read this, but then he read it again and it made sense.

[@RC-hv1yx]

@@chunkymilk No shot. I’m chronically depressed and I thoroughly enjoy basking in all of it to absolutely miserable films and music.

[@abadon0700]

RIP the man who saw things we could never believe

[@JoeZUGOOLA]

C- beams

[@dingdongs5208]

Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion

[@seand7042]

I want to like it but at the time I'm writing this comment had 420 of them

[@rogerpattube]

All these … moments … will be lost in time, like…

[@jrobwhydidyoutubechangemyname]

Tears.... in rain....

[@BlueHooloovoo]

I was so impressed with this film. It's one of those rare sequels that is just as good or better than the original but expands upon the mythology effortlessly. Only a handful of films have done that correctly.

[@SuperFlawless2010]

tighter script, shorter establishing shots, remove Jared Leto and remove Harrison Ford (too much washed up has been energy once he shows up). I don't care about nostalgia, the sequel needed to have its own legs to stand on and not rely on original so much.

[@coalblack666]

i agree. it's up there with Aliens and T2 for me.

[@dinosaurwarlock1967]

I think the baseline test is a really great example of why it works as a sequel. It doesn't pointlessly retread the original, it doesn't do something completely unrelated that makes you wonder why it took its name, it engages with the ideas of the original and puts a clever twist on them. That said, Wallace was awful, Deckard was pointless, and Luv was... interesting for a while, but she just ended up as Attempted Roy Batty. Still fantastic overall, but definitely flawed.

[@jasonfenton8250]

@@SuperFlawless2010 I liked 2049 but the parts that really push nostalgia/connections to the old films really were the worse parts. Making the story rely on the relationship between Deckard/Rachel was a real blunder imo. Their relationship was the worst part of the first movie but then in 2049 we have to buy it as this true love story.

[@keatonkitsune4064]

Except not really, its not a great sequel and an okay movie.

[@benbotka8010]

Jay reading the My Little Pony summary really helped me through my crippling stagefright and several tough divorces. Thanks RLM!

[@fluctuatingvex3710]

I was really struggling with depression, but after this video, I've finally decided to kill myself, thanks RLM!

[@dylanthinnes1954]

Good to see someone bringing back the RLM comments section I know and love.

[@curanp2]

I had to replay that part four times to realize Jay was trying to say "Equestria"

[@szw1337]

@@fluctuatingvex3710 I read this and decided to test whether the first cut was indeed the deepest. Thanks!

[@Kerim9991]

@@curanp2 Weird he struggled with that one considering "Equestrian" is a real word.

[@thewhatness]

Mike: "I'd like to bring up Star Trek." Jay: *looks at camera like in The Office*

[@travisdk84]

does that make mr plinkett Jay's Roy?

[@koicies998]

*you do not know what pain is. You will learn.*

[@randomfools808]

Seriously, I was thinking it wasn't going to happen then whammo!

[@as07011]

you understood that reference?

[@randomfools808]

Has anyone made a supercut of the amount of times Mike has brought up Star Trek while reviewing a movie unrelated to Star Trek? I bet it would be at least 10 minutes

[@arulove68]

I predict a Half in the Bag reboot with Ryan Gosling playing Jay, and Harrison Ford playing Mike.

[@BenM1983]

And Rich Evans playing Ryan Gosling.

[@hopesspirits8754]

​@@BenM1983Ana de Armas plays Rich Evans

[@SnoopyReads]

Im shocked they haven't produced an episode with random actors playing their parts

[@Face6099]

Waiting an hour for an action scene? Doesn't Gosling fight Bautista in one of the first scenes?

[@aidangillard2041]

Also it's not an action movie so idk why they were waiting for an action scenes so anxiously

[@TheCoffeeNut711]

that was more of lover's quarrel

[@vitriolicAmaranth]

@@aidangillard2041 they were saying that it wouldn't appeal to young people for that reason, not that it didn't appeal to them.

[@a1919akelbo]

I'd say it was a detective movie trying to look like a drama/thriller.

[@RobertWilliamsRGW]

yes there is an early fight with a replicant but its in service of nothing but memberries of the 1st film. it dosent tell us much or anything other than the drag of his existance. its sleeping pills on film.

[@Luipaard005]

Of course Mike found a reason to start talking about fucking star trek

[@sahgma1]

but he was wrong. Red dwarf did the Holo emitter first.

[@randomfools808]

He always does

[@corwinorr]

Was looking for this comment. Although I'm sure Red Dwarf got the concept from something else more obscure before, nothing original under the sun !

[@MarKBBQ]

This film was so stunningly beautiful and interesting it breaks my heart that its not doing well financially....so much love put on the screen

[@leob4403]

Markcinemafan cool visuals and music is all it is really

[@MarKBBQ]

Thanks for sharing your thoughts :)

[@MarKBBQ]

Ok :)

[@leob4403]

Edward LaFlamme unfortunately not, Ridley Scott has already expressed his interest in a sequel

[@Mr88shunter]

how the fuck was this worse than the original? and the ending suck!? how? it fitted perfectly in this movie

[@travis1143]

How the hell has Mike not seen Sicario.

[@bobsagget823]

garbage movie

[@thecpalumbo]

bobsagget823 lmao wat

[@MM-hi]

@@bobsagget823 garbage opinion

[@ConorJTobin]

Loved Sicario, remember the regret of seeing San Andreas instead of the sequel... :’-(

[@richardmalcolm1457]

@@bobsagget823 I'm getting the sense you're not a Denis Villenueve fan.

[@benr2270]

I would love to see a Dark City re:View

[@ABLEARC]

So surprised they haven't done so by now. Dark city is super under rated.

[@jeffolsen7566]

Great movie

[@linusdn2777]

I watched it when I had a fever. It was a nightmare but In a good way.

[@RichterLocke]

One of the best sci-fi and noir style movies ever made, watched it again recently and it still holds up.

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

Hey, do you know the way to Shell beach?

[@jivadimova8100]

The box office for Blade Runner 2049 is why we can't have nice things anymore (in terms of movies)... amazing movie!

[@quibquiberton4184]

Nastassia Good joke.

[@facemelter2277]

There’s nothing wrong with sequels as long as they aren’t cash grabs and have genuine passion and integrity behind them

[@k_airo]

Now we just have Birdbox...

[@-F4K3-]

It really was, it deserved way more recognition and acclaim. But we're in the era of comic movies, and unfunny comedy movies about womens periods. If there isn't a joke or someone being electrocuted / shot / energy blasted every 5 minutes it isn't a good movie.

[@ericjamieson]

I say this as a huge fan of both the original and 2049 but It wasn't surprising. The first one, for all its critical acclaim, is really just a cult classic. It was never that popular. So why would anyone expect the new one to do better.

[@cuw]

No mention of the sound design? The difference between the city's loudness and the muted interiors was amazing. Between Baby Driver and this, the sound design in movies this year has been on point.

[@---ge5jk]

all the guns and punches were all wonderfully punchy in this too

[@tomlovelady8380]

*there is no Sound Design award

[@Desolation66]

Sound was incredible for sure.

[@marymitchell6257]

And Dunkirk too

[@michaelkennedy4571]

I would also add Dunkirk to the list of great sound design in film this year.

[@willyboods5197]

Blade runner 2049 is a movie that allows the actors to act. The camera focuses on them for extended amount of times to portray emotion and intention

[@SuperFlawless2010]

@@jdunnatl LMAO! *Barfs*

[@frasermanley9903]

The Blade Runner CD-Rom game from the 90's was superb.

[@wabznasm9660]

Fraser Manley oh man I’m pretty sure I played that game before I saw the film and all my nostalgia for the Blade Runner ambiance is derived from the game rather than the film. It had such a bleak and gritty tone to it. Quite scary too for an 8 year old. I’m actually grateful to have that as my first association rather than the film, much as I love it.

[@noaei]

Hell yeah! There were like six different endings. Too bad it's too old to run on modern computers.

[@frasermanley9903]

@@noaei I got it running, took a bit of work but it's absolutely worth it.

[@CornyBum]

I've never played it but wish I had. Anyways, I think you'll love Ars Technica's War Stories episode (a great series on KZbin) shedding some light on its creation: /watch?v=Zkwpa5YPhx8.

[@Erik_Grossnickle]

Remastered edition coming out soon

[@Dooality]

I know it's all opinion, and subjective, but I just don't get the "boring" complaints. I wasn't bored for one moment in either the original, or the new Blade Runner. I love those quiet moments in film, they help build the atmosphere and world.

[@Orious11]

For me its boring because the shots drag on FOREVER. We get all the information we need but its so self indulgent that it just hangs there for what seems like hours on a shot.

[@bigbear5767]

Patrick Jeter that's probably cause you're young. No offense but generally teenagers have very short attention spans. Not all of them tho.

[@leob4403]

Hellborn Psycho no it's because the movie is a tedious and poorly paced mess

[@bigbear5767]

Leo B okay I've read two of your comments, both of them in different comments and in both those you've said that the movie was a mess. Try to explain why you would use that word.

[@thomasmuse6046]

Hellborn Psycho I'm Not young any more and I have to agree with this gentleman. I'm desperately trying to get engrossed into this mythos and universe but I cant. I actually believe that the young and impressionable could get into this more. I find it slow and almost pretentious at times. Still a thoroughly entertaining flick with cool sci fi and mesmerizing themes, yet it loses me in the translation. I thoroughly believe this will speak to everyone on an individual basis. No offense to the people who like, or dislike the film. I see both sides and land in the middle

[@phrozac]

"You wait an hour for the first action sequence." - LIES The first action sequence is about 7 mins in.

[@thomasmuse6046]

phrozac yep

[@Skabanis]

d0wns0wth hey I love getting some booty licking but they are wrong

[@kylekondit9709]

@@caleb3909 he was talkinh to the cunt who said mike and Jay thought the scene wasnt interesting

[@robofthewest]

@@Shenaldrac Or just shows how inept they are as reviewers.

[@monke12354]

@@Shenaldrac nah it was pretty impactful, I think they just forgot because they were more interested in saying it was boring for laughs lol

[@robertoneill1979]

Wasn't Arnold Rimmer's hologram using "hard light" long before Voyager's doctor? 😃

[@Torthrodhel]

Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for Star Trek.

[@apebblebutt6009]

whataguy _wistfully sighs_

[@benbald]

Yeah, Voyager ripped off Red Dwarf, and there's nothing more embarrassing than that.

[@FanboyFilms]

But Star Trek The Next Generation had hard-light holograms before Red Dwarf. I suppose the difference is that Rimmer wasn't confined to one room.

[@FanboyFilms]

@Jay M of course Red Dwarf does predate Time Trax. And while SELMA'a mobile emitter predates Voyager's, SELMA was not a hard-light construct and couldn't interact with her environment like the Doctor or Rimmer. If you go that route then Al on Quantum Leap was a hologram with a mobile emitter (named Sam) albeit not an A.I. You might think that Al's hologram exists only in Sam's mind but there were several instances when people other than Sam were able to see Al (but not interact physically). QL predates TT, maybe that's where TT got the idea. Actually I revise my statement, Sam was not the emitter. Ziggy was able to project Al places where Sam wasn't, at least in the final episode. So the emitter could send Al's hologram anywhere in space or time but it was stationary at Project QL.

[@BiserAngelov1]

The unicorn scene is the "Greedo shot first" of Blade Runner

[@1080TJ]

"3D waifus are shit, Joi is best girl" - Ryan Gosling

[@dedwendell]

tfw no hologram gf

[@connothecowboy]

Somebody probably should've said something about that name

[@MaxCandyFilm]

Holograms are 3d though :^ )

[@skryreprototype1826]

"3DPD were a mistake." - God

[@basilshim]

but hologram is 3d

[@8BitBrody]

Did they let Rich Evans play in the movie?

[@hay9678]

The director didn't want the lead to be nothing but a piece of eye candy so he cast Ryan Gosling instead.

[@r.m.2598]

Movie was filmed during Tums festival, so Rich didnt have time.

[@washello6573]

Rich is such a masterful actor, you wouldnt know if he was in it.

[@thevoxdeus]

Rich Evans plays Ryan Gosling's sexy holographic love interest.

[@desireealicea]

Rich was too charasmatic. And he blinked too much.

[@MrJfizzle11233]

"Blade Running Time 2,049 minutes" is one of my favorite RLM jokes and I have no idea why.

[@frankmerker630]

isnt it 2 hours 49 minutes or something

[@ILikeBongos]

Didn't Star Trek steal the Mobile Emitter from Red Dwarf?

[@madalinam6183]

Thank you! I was just thinking that. I was sure that some other smartass would've already mentioned it!

[@viktorrietveld]

Absolutely . So basically , the hot hologram is just a rip off Rimmer.

[@hokodo]

Yes.

[@denimchicken104]

They’re overthinking it anyway. The concept of a portable version of something is nothing new. That’s all this is.

[@DF-su8sj]

All of Denis Villeneuve's movies have had that slow, tense pacing that works amazingly for people that care to get involved with the worlds he's building, and it's not a style that we are used to in movies at all. That's one of the things I really appreciate about it, and I completely understand why several of his movies (looking at you, Prisoners, Arrival and now Blade Runner 2049) have been said to be boring by some people. I don't think they're truly "boring" though. I think they're just a slow burn that most of us enjoy having watched after it's over with.

[@sada0101]

Temparo Yes the twists were weak, but its not on Denis i guess as he only directs all his recent and well known movies.

[@jacobcrist3080]

Don't forget Enemy

[@denimchicken104]

Loved BR2049, I thought arrival was meh.

[@makosn]

"It's like a comfy nightmare blanket". The best box blurb that never was.

[@chudd6125]

Way better than any sequel deserves to be in this day and age

[@Grogeous_Maximus]

Just the fact that it got a sequel, and not a desperately young hip and edgy zoomer reboot with painfully uncharismatic 19-year old actors

[@forcedemodo]

Dark City is one of my personal favorite movies of all time. I was so happy to hear Mike call it the best sci-fi film noir movie and I wish more people could experience it for themselves.

[@AramilsMusic]

Just watched the movie a second time. Still floored, as was the audience. Everyone was silent when the movie ended because it is such an intense experience.

[@jrscott81]

Aramil honestly one of the greatest movie going experiences of my life. Every single person in the theater was glued to the screen. No cell phones popping up, no conversations, no annoying people. Dead silence from the audience for 2 hours and 44 minutes. It has been a long time since that has happened for me.

[@matiasbenitez980]

The couple sitting behind me (blade) RUNNED out of the cinema as soon as the credits came up. By the way, we were like 25 people in the room and every one seemed very distracted, idiots.

[@destroyerofheroes]

there was only 2 other people in the entire theater with me. That's why my experience was so silent.

[@gchhuman80]

Because they were asleep

[@BerMaster5000]

Some of the audience at my showing were nearly struck into a coma! I heard actual snoring at one point in the film! What a masterpiece!

[@dedwendell]

I realize a lot of people find the slow pacing and emphasis on atmosphere boring, but that's actually my favorite part of the Blade Runner movies; just soaking in the world the film makers are building.

[@beancheesedip8337]

Wendy Scott I can kind of understand from a technical aspect. Movies are supposed be condensed and the plot is expected to always be moving, but I agree with you. I love Blade Runner because it takea time to let you soak in its atmosphere and visuals. When they were talking about how boring the "enhancing" scene was, all I could think was how much I love that scene and how purposely slow and methodical it is, especially because we're discovering things at the same time Deckard is. The biggest flaw I can give to the movie is, as Mike and Jay pointed out, all the different edits and the Ridley Scott bullshit that no one wanted. In a lot of ways, I actually prefer the theactrical cut because its not bogged down by the "ambiguity" while never losing the thought-provoking questions. I also really like just how much the voice-over lends itself to the general noir feel, even if it does sound like Harrison Ford is sleeping through his lines.

[@NeuronalAxon]

You've got to consider what it was like watching Bladerunner in 1984, though - that 'enhance' scene was pretty amazing, especially if you were a techie type - just marvelling at the 'future' technology.

[@FrancoisDressler]

Sean Locke "Movies are supposed to be..." Nope.

[@misanthropicservitorofmars2116]

It just felt so real. Like I was looking into the soul of humanity and our future. Beautiful.

[@bradleyhayman2682]

That's where 2049 messes up imo. Theyre very clearly trying to reproduce the atmosphere (to the point that it becomes fan service) but they seriously draw it out way too long by chasing useless insignificant tangents. It's strange to me how they're complaining about the original's pacing but they like 2049 which is longer and more boring and pretentious.

[@mmp64]

The original movie came out when I was 17. I was expecting it to be something like Star Wars because Harrison Ford was in it. Of course, it was not and the person I saw the movie with was bored out of his mind. I was fascinated with the visuals and the fully-realized world, and liked Film Noir so I was favorable disposed to it. However, it was only with repeated watchings (many of which were done via a VHS tape recorded from a local broadcast in which they presented one of the reels out of order) that I came to see it as a masterpiece in film making. I had huge reservations about the sequel, but was more than pleasantly surprised with how it turned out, for all of the reasons you mentioned. I have watched it many times since and continue to marvel that such a movie could be made in today’s Hollywood. Bravo.

[@yvehooson9262]

Me too, and it instantly became my favourite film. I've rewatched the film so many times since. Deckard isn't a detective in as such, he's there to 'retire' the rogue replicants that made it back to earth. I didn't make it beyond the first hour of the sequel. Very dull.

[@micahclawrence]

I fucking loved this movie.

[@gojithereploid7623]

Hell yeah bro

[@mr.redhands8390]

I'm glad they changed their minds about Ryan Gosling's acting and took the time to say it. After watching the movie I thought they were a little unfair with him in Rich's video, his character was supposed to be a stone cold blade runner replicant with a little of "humanity" that grew during the course of the movie. He also did a great job in the few emotional scenes he had.

[@14AspenDrive]

people keep saying Ryan Gosling has no facial expressions and shit. I'm like.. are we watching the same person?? Look at his eyes! acting is all in the eyes. he's amazing

[@swans184]

I gave him a backhanded compliment and said “well, if you want someone who people might think is a robot, he’s the perfect actor for that.” Joking, but also serious. And he was! And I like him as an actor, a lot.

[@perhaps9460]

Especially the “GODDAMMIT” scene

[@colinmoriarity8205]

patrick sedillo yeah that scene was great

[@twincherries6698]

@@perhaps9460 that was true kino

[@christianmiller9980]

I loved how slow it is. Amazing feeling of melancholy unease, just like the original. A lot of subtle touches too.

[@Zlarel]

Tbqh I can pop this on whenever, don't need to prepare for it or anything. It's so satisfyingly and beautifully made that it's practically relaxing, and at the very least a fantastic representation of art in film. I also absolutely adore the fact that the resolution does not involve fantastic rebellions or foiling evil plots, but a simple human act of kindness in reuniting father and daughter. It's so comparatively humble and down-to-earth, yet given so much incredible energy by the story surrounding it, that I can hardly think of a more uplifting message: that living life as an average, ordinary person is its own brand of epic.

[@gagelindell271]

Lets not forget Hans Zimmers score in this was pure gold. And that fight scene at the end in the water was pure beauty. This is in my top 3 favorites of all time.

[@toasteddanish4883]

YOU JUST KEEP HITTING THOSE HOME RUNS, DENIS!

[@pho3nix-]

I think the Las Vegas scenes should have had a hologram of Don Rickles saying "You paid 13 dollars for THIS? what am I a schmuck? a gefilte fish? get outta here!"

[@FrancoisDressler]

That would've made this the best film of all time

[@haakonhirt670]

It would've made so much sense, and would've fit well considering that Frank was a hologram just upstairs.

[@gustavoperezramirez2717]

Or a reference to Keaton's Cop, the best performance of his career.

[@themaypole]

The Holo Emitter is also in Red Dwarf. Rimmer eventually becomes a hard light hologram, so he can touch shit and be more real.

[@Xurrah]

2049 is a masterpiece of sound and vision.

[@luiginastro8831]

And of storytelling and world building and character work and...

[@WJINTL]

Story is meh Better than the first but ehhhh other films did it better.

[@Wonkess_Chonkess]

​@@WJINTL There's a difference between story telling and story.

[@SB0780]

If only every studio film was this fully realized and uncompromised. I'd be happy for this director to attempt any property, Terminator, Batman, Star Wars etc. The film was an incredible cinema experience, beautifully made, solid performances (Harrison Ford actually looked like he wanted to be there) and the world it created with such an attention to detail was mind blowing, couldn't take my eyes off it.

[@1997residente]

look. i love villeneuve but i dont think he is universally everyones cup of tea.he is an arthouse man with certain fascination of atmosphere and slow pace which alienate certain audience.

[@kingthlayerl.7349]

He's going to adapt Dune next, pretty sure it's going to be great

[@Y.M...]

@@kingthlayerl.7349 I am both excited and dismayed.

[@philswift1252]

U N Explain. I haven’t finished the book yet or seen the David Lynch movie but I’ve loved everything that Denis Villeneuve has put out so far.

[@childhoodisthatyou9869]

@Degree7 Those are some of my favorite directors.

[@TunezCottage]

Just watched the OG Blade Runner and Blade Runner 2049 after one another. Not boring IMO.

[@OMGYasuke]

GiRayne Welcome to the internet where you can pirate movies that are still in theaters!

[@samd2013]

You can download movies off the internet pretty easily

[@FrancoisDressler]

The digital version is available

[@DDBurnett1]

It's playing at second-run theaters around here (Portland, OR), and there is one theater playing both movies as a double feature.

[@TunezCottage]

For a person with limited spelling abilities, you sincerely should not imply that people are shallow and "not firing on all cylinders" if they enjoyed a piece of entertainment. That kind of reasoning is not just stupid and utterly illogical, it's also shallow, and coming from a person who wouldn't be... firing on all cylinders. Let people enjoy whatever they want, I liked the movie. Probably never watching it again but I still liked it, a lot of people did.

[@brodem]

Immense disappointment with Jay never putting together that the humans being dull while Rutger Hauer is sympathetic is an intentional thematic choice

[@7r3v0r]

Its a shame they cut the mood-stabilising from the books, its really poetic that robots are discovering their emotions while humans are all sedating themselves. If Ridley Scott had read the book so many of the movies' flaws would have been completely solved.

[@interestedparty7523]

That’s a flaw IMO, might as well make him the protagonist, because lumbering, clumsy voice-over, unsympathetic Harrison Ford doesn’t cut it. Intellectually yes, it’s ironic, but as a movie, it’s a narrative flaw, IMHO.

[@fabianhammer2864]

@@7r3v0r at least harrison ford gets drunk, during a good portion of the movie

[@croixtucker1757]

As a young adult, blade runner 2049 was my first experience with blade runner, and I have to say. It was one of the best movie going experiences I have ever had. I was never bored during the entire movie.

[@creepdotoh]

They should have a theme song for every time Mike brings up Star Trek

[@randomfools808]

They almost did here! Haha

[@thesickhorseranch1930]

SO...when IS the gay wedding??

[@Rocky-gs6mb]

The only thing I care about is the gay wedding side story. I don't need these complex reviews!

[@mikeo.4924]

I did not know Harrison Ford was in this movie (I live under a rock), and it made his reveal way, way cooler. I did not mind the pacing leading up to it, either.

[@SobeCrunkMonster]

but do you have actual tangible evidence that youre not gay?

[@aja3longhorn375]

@@justin9744 ikr like even if you streamed it with no knowledge you would see him in the image for the film. Like wtf??

[@frankmerker630]

I’ve heard numerous anecdotes from people who had no idea Ford was in the movie and were familiar with the first film. And they all think it was a satisfying reveal and made this movie a lot better. Thanks Sony

[@BlackStripePro]

I just re watched this again. Glorious.

[@andreolsson3996]

'Have to wait an hour for any action scene' ...literally the first scene is an action scene :/ Otherwise great review!

[@KyleClippers]

Even if we did have to wait an hour, who fucking cares? Not every film has to have an action scene to be a masterpiece. All these ADD people today can't pay attention to a beautifully crafted film unless theres a car driving out of a plane whilst the guy shoots akimbo m16's out the window.

[@banparlous2552]

I think many ppl, especially of a younger generation that didn’t see the 1st movie, were expecting an action movie. It’s not really an action movie franchise though. For non-action movies, they do have action scenes in them. I went to see it theaters, I was not expecting an action movie.

[@tymanning2832]

Jay always has a slight look of irritation anytime Mike brings up Star Trek randomly. It’s always hilarious.

[@daddykoolest]

It was a beautiful movie and engaged me completely, however what it needed was a Rory Batty level of threat and the “tears in the rain” monologue to push it over the edge.

[@yanquiufo7113]

I missed Roy batty the entire movie, still loved it though

[@simonhusseymusic]

"...so Jay, when's your..." priceless!

[@philswift1789]

I cant wait for the blade runner 2049 comic sans cut.

[@mattpask5594]

Phil Swift lmao

[@sebastienvieh4269]

You gotta warn me before Rich pops up, jesus.

[@ExplanationMarks]

DEFINITELY one of the best sequels ever, it deserved to do so much better than it did.

[@ValseInstrumentalist]

Someone needs to make a ten hour loop of Jay saying "Pinkie Pie."

[@Psilocybin77]

Horsey sauce

[@brunobucciaratiswife]

The way the words bounce is so silly.

[@Hirnlego999]

"The first one was fine" Mike.exe has stopped working

[@brewingtea1]

I had to pause and die laughing at this. That was my reaction, too, Mike.

[@illforcefeedyouasbestos3048]

All I wanna do is watch movies where Ryan Gosling stares at things. He's a real human bean

[@KTK44]

He's a Nexus.

[@pretzelstick320]

And a real hero

[@pixelezio]

Interesting watching this review back now knowing how well loved this film is especially with a younger audience.

[@SolDizZo]

I guess the main thing was that it’s low action but yeah much was underestimated 👍👍👍 someone understands

[@joeybeann]

Please call me Young again

[@ManOutofTime913]

I think there's some leeway given to it because it's a detective story so even a young audience is engrossed though there's very little action. Plus, going back to watch this now, there are consistently interesting visuals onscreen for the majority of the movie. It's not like an A24 film where the shots themselves are often drawn out and meditative. There are some atmospheric sequences, but the rest keeps the story moving.

[@beyzanuryldz6848]

Rewatching this in 2021 and praying for Dune

[@sethzwicker3631]

Your prayers have been anwered.

[@Carl_ATHF]

Oh.... no.................!!!!

[@drinkwater3453]

what did you think?

[@JackofTrades21]

Well?

[@chrismhp]

"It's like a comfy nightmare blanket." I've never heard Blade Runner described so perfectly. The music and sound design for 2049 might be the one of most orgasmic auditory experiences I've had from a film. I'm inclined to rewatch it just to _hear_ the film again in full glory. There are only two main things I didn't quite love about it though. First thing I can complain about is that I felt like it left a little too much open. It feels like there's too much room for another sequel when I think this should've been a more conclusive story. Maybe I'm wrong about that if they end up making an amazing third film, but we'll see. And lastly, I feel like the climax didn't live up to the original --- I know, it's hard to beat one of the most memorable death scenes in all of sci-fi cinema. But when the original had such a powerful climax, I really wanted something to match the same kind of impact; unofrtuantely 2049's didn't quite deliver for me. Other than that, incredible film. You really don't see movies like this in the cinema very often...so engrossing, atmospheric, beautiful, and spellbinding visionary work. You need to experience this on the big screen.

[@notimportant3686]

i just saw "under the skin"... and music in that was also extremely important and moody... then i saw blade runner and got that same feeling again...

[@thomasmuse6046]

MHP Le you nailed it

[@swans184]

I know exactly what you mean; I was overwhelmed and floored by the sound towards the end of the movie, when the score starts syncing with the waves crashing. It’s genius how the entire movie is visually overwhelming, and the finale cuts that out to focus on negative space and maximum sound. It’s like they’re fighting on the edge of the world, about to fall off into the abyss of humanity’s own creation; it’s pure sci-fi, aka pure possibility

[@MorganFreemansFavoriteFreckle]

It's so strange how the first Blade Runner hits different people. I was so checked out by the end of Blade Runner that I really just didn't care about Rutger Hauer's replicant. But 2049 was a stunning masterpiece that I couldn't look away from. So weird

[@FishTacoAG]

couldn't agree more

[@Deondre_Clark]

I hope Hollywood doesn't get scared of making adult movies bc of weak box office. So tired of everything being made for 13 yr old boys

[@smileydog5941]

Deondre Clark Deadpool and Logan might have saved us a little considering they were successful R rated SUPERHERO movies, but I think in the end these kinds of R rated films will almost never see the light of day. FUCK YOU IT'S FOREVER

[@TheCNotes1]

Bladerunner is doing really well, though. I'd say it's a sign that Hollywood is catching on that not every movie goer is a 13 year old.

[@TheJonesdude]

They gotta make films for their boyfriends and girlfriends after all

[@GriffinDumeer]

Deondre Clark Judging by what Logan and Deadpool made, that shouldn’t be a concern.

[@JohnSmith-km4sv]

> Deafpool That's a film made precisely for 13 year old boys.

[@df2439]

Before discovering RLM, I never understood why there was such a huge discrepancy between films I thought were okay and films people loved: Blade Runner is one of those films. I have not the sophisticated understanding about what makes a good or bad film nor am I always able to articulate why I may dislike a well-liked film; RLM continues to teach me the nuances about screenplay writing, character arcs, editing and tone, (etc.) and film has transformed from a mundane pastime that I cannot relate to or comprehend the appeal of to a form of artistic expression that is not always being used to its full abilities. Support on Patreon, if you can. I wonder about who the next great filmmakers will be and if they will have been inspired by RLM... I appreciate RLMs heart: they managed to turn my cynical view on movies.

[@janfranszuidema8512]

Weren't you drowned in this film?

[@leoteal7161]

whaaat?

[@Y.M...]

Agreed. I've seen their reviews of movies I've seen, and from what I learned, I knew I understood less about storytelling and how it's done than I realised. I picked some of the movies they've reviewed that I haven't watched yet, tried to apply what I learned as I watch those movies, and was not surprised to pick up on similar oddities to what they point out in their reviews, sometimes more and sometimes less than the ones they find.

[@VideoBakery]

As an aspiring filmmaker I can tell you that they have influenced me a good bit. It's nice to know that there is an audience of people who understand, interpret, and appreciate films to a higher degree without being snobby. They can enjoy an artistic movie, then turn around and enjoy Blood Debts just as much.

[@russelltyler9363]

That's awesome D F! Welcome to the club! ; ) Now try finding friends to geek out about all this stuff with! lol.

[@CaiusHowlett]

I remember seeing this several times in the theatre when it came out. Felt like I was being hypnotized for 3 hours. Great film!

[@hagerty1952]

The first movie to portray the massive-Sci-Fi-city thing was Metropolis (1926). In fact, it's the title character.

[@hilaryc8648]

Indeed. German expressionism influenced almost everything. Fritz Lang also gave us some of the great crime noir films, aped to this day.

[@adoredpariah]

​@@hilaryc8648 Oh my yes, very much agreed, the visual echoes of German Expressionist films alone continue to this day, almost every warped landscape or cityscape is reminiscent of that period, and the strange beauty that shows through the overwhelmingly, otherworldly and often depressing/oppressive aesthetic has been replicated in so many ways in so many films that is actually quite difficult to fully quantify the impact. I would say even films like The Nightmare Before Christmas to films like The Road draw from that aesthetic to visually construct meaning.

[@omarmir8426]

So did Rich Evans make the cut?

[@dialtones]

No but they certainly took inspiration.

[@Crowley9]

His part will be restored in the fourteenth cut of the film that will be released 23 years from now.

[@dialtones]

Crowley9 Ah yes, "The Final Directors Cut Extended Edition"

[@blktom]

I heard he was Gosling's stunt double in the lounge scene. It is why Ford was so into it... but he wouldn't stop after they called cut so it had to be re-shot 14 times.

[@VladK95]

I thought she sounded familiar, just couldn't place it. Also: is Rich Evans a replicant?

[@hackinggamerxd]

Pinkie Pie is the real standout in this film

[@mjtuomainen]

The first Blade Runner was a dream Han Solo had in the carbonite

[@PirateZ1]

The point of Harrison Ford being a dumb boring asshole in the first movie works for it though. The point is the contrast between the replicants and the humans isnt really very clear. So who is to say why the replicants should be the slaves and the humans the masters. In fact, Rutger Hower's character is far more human than Harrison Ford's character. The novel has a different point to make than that but this is why the first movie works so well for me and works as a narrative separate from the novel.

[@mspirit]

Exactly. The idea is that Ford despite human behaves like a robot while the robots show more passion and lust for life than the human. It's quiet obvious but somehow a lot of people don't get it.

[@PirateZ1]

I dont think its quite sooo obvious because the narrative style--partly because of its noire style--is pretty slow paced. I will admit the first time I saw it I fell asleep. Its a mood piece or a "hang-out movie" very similar to Escape from NY which is why I find it strange that Jay doesnt like it but I guess the tone is pretty different.

[@mspirit]

Well you have to actively think of what the movie is telling you. That's part of the process of "feeling" a movie. Why do Deckard scenes are boring while the replicants not? Because the idea is to make you understand that Deckard is also bored by is own life. All the piano, the "enhanced", unlike the replicants Deckard has a long life of nothing ahead of him. That's where the contrast should be established. Jay said he saw the movie many many times and still don't get it. After so many views and so many fan commentary on the theme how do you miss that evidence? I have no idea.

[@BaxterBarclay]

Was sacrificing all personality of the protagonist really necessary to prove that point though? Stripping him of all character just feels lazy; a good script should be able to have us getting his viewpoint/sympathizing before realizing that the replicant is a much better person rather than just making Deckard insufferable.

[@markwilhelm4093]

I agree with Sebastian and Matthieu on this issue, but Baxter does bring up a relevant point: I think that Deckard’s characterization in BR works for some people, and it just doesn’t work for others. The film obviously took a big risk by asking people to identify with a distant, jaded character. That’s why I think it’s a noteable work of art, not just a commercial product, because part of art is taking risks and making it as good as you can knowing that not everyone will like your vision.

[@Hospitaller]

The whole point of the first film was that all the human characters behaved like machines. Emotionless, unsympathetic creatures operating off their programming. The replicants, instead, were emotive and compelling. They wanted to Live!

[@Desolation66]

Marcus Sun this film doesn't subtract from that..

[@1997residente]

Thats right. replicans act like machines,human act like machines...i remember doug walker´s quote "if the characters cant show an emotion why should the audience show an emotion?"

[@rciafardone]

@@RRRRRRRRR33 the hologram girl was not a full blown AI. She was a good simulacrum, but Gosling character realising she was not real was part of his arc.

[@rinhato8453]

@@RRRRRRRRR33 Trump doesnt need concentration camps for slaves, thats what US prisons are for.

[@golfer435]

@@Desolation66 I think that was more a response to their critique

[@joshserna9983]

I had a second date with a girl where we watched Bladerunner. Needless to say that was not the move

[@IZn0g0uDatAll]

If that was not the move, that was not the girl.

[@ranfan1820]

"Honey im sooooo boooorrreeedd."

[@rolandluth2098]

like arnie would say : big mistake

[@johnarbuckle2619]

To the town of Agua Fria rode a stranger one fine day...

[@leorickt.9604]

I would say you belong here, but youve been on a date with a live human woman

[@daethalion1725]

Every time Mike wants to bring up Star Trek, Jay is just, 'Here we go again...' XD

[@diegofrancisco7900]

The movie theater is screening Blade Runner 2049 and My Little Pony. Obviously I took my kids to see 2049

[@as07011]

tough choice, My Little Pony is a timeless piece touching upon so many themes

[@harbingerofsalt]

What did they think of the giant hologram tits?

[@diegofrancisco7900]

Justin Berry they were like "daddy, why is his girlfriend with blue hair and biiiig?" i just said steroids

[@almeidacoelho1989]

Blade runner is great because it took 12 years to Watch

[@Randinator]

I watched this on a long flight to Vietnam via Korean Airlines. To "take in the images" is the best way to see this.

[@bubbelgumdeluxe1]

Haha i watched it on a flight to Incheon/Korea

[@_ArsNova]

"You have to wait over an hour for the first action scene" There's an action scene in the first 10 minutes....

[@StarFoxxy]

Sorry to be that guy, but Star Trek Voyager actually ripped off Red Dwarf first with the hologram thing...how embarrassing.

[@AlisterLockhart]

Jamie Merian AJ Rimmer, for one...

[@moonshapedabsolution]

Red Dwarf > Star Trek: Voyager

[@exasperated]

Star Foxxy Was literally about to say the same thing! Let's not forget the holochamber on a moon either...

[@vobeck]

Sorry to be that guy... But maybe some of you (Ahem, Mike, Ahem) should read some William Gibson if you want to get all holier-than-thou on who did what first in sci-fi. Also, everything is remix, so I'm sure the idea of mobile holograms with AI personalities has been around before even him. #simpsonsdidit

[@farmhousemedia3000]

News RD series starts THIS WEEK!

[@matthewhibner1092]

Hollywood needs to do a "Goonies" sequel. All the kids are in their 40's, Sloth has a rocket launcher, and they have to stop the ghost of One-Eyed Willy from destroying the whole world!

[@requiem4ameme2]

Matthew Hibner "The world is changin', Chunk."

[@rjs6854]

Matthew Hibner I'd watch that while high tbh. I'd give it a 10/10

[@smileydog5941]

Hopefully there is a big laser or space portal over a city.

[@thejosephchrist]

Really happy to see the Dark City love in this episode. If even briefly.

[@birchmahogany2718]

When the Pacific Rim 2 clip played I realized that I did see that movie though I remember nothing about it. 🤔

[@EfftupSmith]

That's cosit wasn;t very good. I wasn;t expectingmuch from the First pacific rim but it really worked. they took this nonsense concept and totally sold it to me, the CGI was excellent because those huge robot mechsuits actually felt like they had weight and substance. Then Pacific Rim 2 came out and was everything I feared the first one woul.d be. Serious let down.

[@creekandseminole]

This movie was incredible. It's one of those rare movies where the sequel is just as good if not better than the first.

[@AVerySillySausage]

Better 100%

[@carlsavard9050]

Different, but not better.

[@bigbear5767]

creekandseminole for me it made the original better.

[@leob4403]

This movie was like a parody of the first, a complete mess

[@bigbear5767]

Edward LaFlamme I thought It was both different and it was edited a lot better than the original. Also the tone of the movie helped you immerse yourself in the movie more than others. Try watching it again.

[@carsonsugly]

Is Rich Evans replacing Ryan Gosling?

[@NeuronalAxon]

We can wish.

[@chroma-agogo]

And the score! Exploring and expanding the themes with new production technology while still staying reverent enough to the original, nailing it on the head just like the other aspects you talked about

[@nicolasacosta1673]

I was never bored while watching this. I was totally engrossed in the plot and the world. I Iove Marvel movies but it was a breathe of fresh air watching a film where there wasn't an explosion every 5 minutes.

[@WalterUnglaub]

I didn't mind the run time in the slightest. This film was visceral and engaging, something rare in the movies of this day and age. Thank fuck I don't suffer from ADHD like (apparently) so many mindless movie-goers these days. This was a refreshing change of pace from the pure schlock we tend to get...

[@Ireallylikepie22]

Walter Unglaub Honestly it's stupidity not ADHD. I've had ADHD all my life and I was riveted throughout the entire fucking movie

[@MCSkiure]

Walter Unglaub you're not stupid if you didn't like the movie. It's very slow, and that's cool sometimes, but a lot of the shit in this movie just didn't need to be in there.

[@NefariousKoel]

Walter - Absolutely agree! Plus it obviously wasn't another typical by-the-numbers generic Hollywood production that's become so common. I hope it ends up with a good take, and decent sales at the box, to keep such formulaic habits from further infecting the industry.

[@aarononeill3]

The pace wasn't why it was boring, I love slow paced films. The story was very predictable and a lack of emotional connection with the characters left me less than engaged. Visually and musically stunning however. But the story was forgettable. The ideas behind the story are more interesting than the actual on screen story.

[@KTK44]

Am O Ah yes, you of course sat there and predicted everything in a "I-told-you-so" way, while the rest of us didn't see the twists come, cause apparently a movie with twists can be predictable?

[@henriquedematos]

I spent the last hours refreshing the RLM channel page for this, looks like I wasn't disappointed.

[@MsMegadude64]

Just turn on notifications for this channel.

[@MiniKodjo]

I have spent the last weeks doing it

[@joshsilva3241]

BR 2049 is absolutely one of the BEST movies/sequels ever. I loved it much more than the original. This is the way to build Sci fi worlds and tell a story in the span of a feature film.

[@zekebeckman]

The Blade Running time joke cracked me up, well done!

[@MeerkatChris]

I love the first film myself, but my god... I wasn't expecting to love the second one to the extent I did! I also agree that it may well be one of the greatest sequels ever made. Although I always feel that the pacing to these films is perfect. Maybe that's just me though..

[@CryptoChangingTheWorld]

omgitsMeerkatChris I absolutely loved it! The acting, sound, cinematography, story, script and the world built was genius beyond any film. Sci-fi these days is aimed at teenagers and is nowhere near as deep as Blade Runner 2049 which is ashame that we dumb down things for todays audience.

[@Hummingbirder1]

Nope, not just you

[@700Penguin]

Yeah, it's probably just you. You're the only one smart enough to appreciate these films.

[@MeerkatChris]

RiceCum I meant the pacing. Sorry if it came off that way to you, but a common complaint is the pacing to which has always been a positive for me with these two films. I get that people may find it slow, but I just happen to like that for whatever reason with these films

[@kev3d]

I really enjoyed it. Though it was a sequel, it still felt fresh and it kept me interested the entire time. The filmcraft in some shots were just about the most beautiful I have ever seen.

[@elsiemon]

Rainbow Dash is my favorite replicant

[@rojh9351]

More pony than pony is our motto.

[@H7B2ify]

That explains the Rainbow Dash origamis

[@Rundrop]

10:28 So we just gonna pretend "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" by Philip K. Dick didn't happen?

[@ancientapparition1638]

that book was pretty dope compared to the first blade runner imo

[@JMSayler]

@@ancientapparition1638 agreed. I read the book and watched both movies all within the last 2 weeks and after reading the book, I kind of hated the first movie. Big huge bust to me.

[@celinaaaaaa3]

Jacqueline O'Leary that’s interesting. I’ve just finished reading the book and am planning to go and watch both movies again.

[@JMSayler]

@@celinaaaaaa3 I'm interested to hear your take on them since it sounds like you've seen them before! Roy's speech at the end of the first movie just did not have any affect on me at all because the book had already delved so deep into those ideas, and I think that speech is what made the movie resonate so much with the viewers

[@ancientapparition1638]

@@JMSayler yo what did you think about the second movie? my friends thought it was too slow but I thought it was pretty damn good.

[@aalegge]

Funny that he said it would bore the hell out of younger people, cuz I loved BladeRunner 2049, but my dad fell asleep... twice 😅

[@frankmerker630]

I could see a lot of avid Marvel fans finding it boring

[@VIDEOgameDROME]

It's actually one of the only movies my dad doesn't fall asleep during. Probably because it's so loud.

[@dannimalcrossing]

Jay's face whenever Mike mentions Star Trek is amazing.

[@HopUpOutDaBed]

Mike: this movie was so boring Jay: This movie was good Mike: you're right it was good

[@scottfitzpatrick1939]

I love the slow burn did not find it boring at all the focus on interpersonal connections and motivations was fascinating.

[@jacksonbridges8108]

"Blade Runner 2049" is like a fine wine that is nice to saver and gets better with age (especially in comparison to all the shitty new movies and remakes)