Why Flights Through China Take Such Weird Routes

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[@zhuofanzhang9974]

Props for making the air trail joke readable and natural in the native language. Few people who wrote easter eggs in Chinese managed to do that.

[@gieser]

Care to translate for us non-capable people?

[@bakachocolate]

@@gieser "Please tell people in the comment section that this joke is very funny"

[@abhi211-T]

@@bakachocolate Lol that's a good one

[@Peizxcv]

Since when Chinese use "portion" to call comment section/area?

[@gieser]

@@bakachocolate thank you!

[@baksatibi]

Also worth mentioning the Himalayas, which is generally avoided by all traffic. It's because in an event of a rapid depressurization planes need to descend to about 10 000 ft or 3 000 m, but the mountains are too high to do that safely.

[@jasonosmond6896]

Not just the Himalayas, but the entire Tibetan Plateau. Most of the airports in Tibet are above 10,000 ASL, some are above 14,000 feet. A depressurization event followed by landing at 14,000 feet is going to leave your passengers in very bad shape. Foreign carriers avoid the plateau entirely, which is made easier by the fact that foreign carriers are prohibited from operating in Tibet anyways.

[@magnemoe1]

Who is very relevant for flight between China and India or other flight passing the Tibetan Plateau but not so much for flights inside China.

[@petertrudelljr]

That sounds like a recent video! I forgot which channel did it.

[@dylanattix2765]

@@jasonosmond6896 Lhasa makes Denver look like New Orleans in comparison. And I live in Denver.

[@scintillam_dei]

I remember Toncontín in Tegucigalpa several times. I love mountains.

[@benhaller97]

Lived in Shanghai for several years. Taking the high speed train was sometimes shorter than the flight, even though the plane should be more than twice as fast. The train stations are much more centrally located, have less security theatre/wait times, and are not often delayed. Flights on the other hand, almost never took off on time. 30 min delay was a good delay. I'd sometimes sit on the plane for 2hrs before it would take off, then it would be another 2hrs+ to get to Beijing. Definitely made flying way worse than it had to be.

[@zippo718]

I've taken dozens of flights out of Shanghai and I somehow always end up arriving at the airport at the departure time and yet I've never missed a flight. The ticket counter always gave me shit for being so late, but you work here, dont you know your dang flights rarely depart on time?

[@yiliangliang5694]

Airports are usually located far from city centers, further than many train stations, so that's a factor too.

[@htaukkyanmyo4437]

I flew often for work. After 9/11 almost all US flights added 15 to 45 minutes to their schedules to make them look good as being on time.

[@blackrebelz]

Weird. I've experienced more canceled trains than delayed flights. I almost missed a flight because of a last minute cancellation.

[@grod805]

Did you say security theater?

[@shanghaidiscovery2664]

When flying domestic in China, you get delayed by the fact air traffic control is indeed controlled by the military but also the fact that they there is a hierarchy to which flights go first: international first, then flights to Beijing, then flights to other larger cities, then the rest... And then it depends on the airline. Some airlines like Spring airlines which is super budget seems to be making money by selling some of its takeoff slots to other more premium airlines. Airlines least likely to be delayed are Hainan and Juneyao. Also never take last flight of the day if you can avoid it

[@yiliangliang5694]

Also, Beijing gives priority to Air China flights, typically because many important individuals in China fly with Air China, and the airport needed to ensure their schedule first.

[@HM-he1ob]

Yes, that's why more people prefer taking high speed trains nowadays, even if it takes about 4-5 hours from Beijing to Shanghai, compared to 1.5-2 hours flight.

[@jlu]

@@HM-he1ob Often HSR is much faster when u include the hassle of going through airport and security check ins

[@SamSitar]

they should replace the wavy airpaths with closing the passenger windows when flying over restricted places. airplane staff are trusted to keep quiet about such places.

[@ggfdd5925]

@@SamSitar honestly if you have something you want to hide you shouldn't entrust random people with it. that's the key to keeping something a secret

[@Vexxed]

Convoluted air space in China makes high speed train lines more popular.

[@AxxLAfriku]

I am being humble when I am telling you that I am the most powerful strongest coolest smartest most famous greatest funniest Y*uTub3r of all time! That's the reason I have multiple girlfriends and I show them off all the time! Bye bye vec

[@alexandre3017]

why is there always a youtube rubbish bots epidemic

[@godfather7339]

Also, trains are more effecient, thus cheaper.

[@Leonhard707]

Holy shit I thought you were taken prisoner in NK, as you haven't uploaded since your trip there and documentary.

[@qjtvaddict]

@@godfather7339 the bad routes of planes in China help trains alot

[@YukiThor]

laughed so hard at the airplane doing a chinese phrase the phrase actually means "this joke is funny"

[@randomanimefan1000]

"Please tell people in the comment section that this joke is really funny."

[@alunesh12345]

@@randomanimefan1000 Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.😍😚😘

[@Ubya_]

@@alunesh12345 hahaaahahahaha that's a good joke mate

[@moviestime878]

@@alunesh12345 I don’t think god would like you to spread his religion, he wants people to learn but not by force.

[@krio1267]

@@alunesh12345 wanna hear a joke islam

[@user-bx4li5ne3v]

I’m a pilot working in China, in fact some of those military airspace are sometimes open to civilian aircrafts, if there’s no military activity in side that airspace, or sometimes even there is on going military activity, it’s still negotiable, the civil aviation ATC will negotiate with military controllers. Sometimes they approve sometimes they don’t. The biggest inconvenience for me is the open time of those airspace is not transparent, the ATC or some departments of the operators may sometimes know the plan of their military activity, but we as pilots most of the time aren’t able to get those information, thus adjust our expectations or even flight plans. I’ve been flying in France for 1-2 years and they have a lot of restricted airspace too, some of those are military airspace, but their pilots are able to know the exact time of opening or closure of those airspace through the NOTAMs, which we don’t have here in China. I kind of get it that is to protect their military secrets, but for me this is really causing inconvenience & threats, sometimes even danger, to civil aviation here.

[@ThaBeatConductor]

3:34 "Mouse themed swamp" Glad someone recognizes Florida for what it is.

[@egpx]

ITSUX is my favourite five letter designated waypoint. It’s somewhere over the North Sea on the boundary of Scottish and Danish airspace.

[@bcubed72]

If I ran the FAA, I'd make an ILS waypoint "FUKKD." Better yet, the back course; then ATC could say "Delta 431, report 'FUKKD' for the back course."

[@EdinProfa]

URADK for me

[@lzh4950]

@@bcubed72 I imagine there might be FOAKD "First of a kind"

[@renakunisaki]

Just don't get too close to waypoint CRASH.

[@koishikomeiji7878]

@@asliceofcheese9989 BALZZ

[@MatuteG]

The flight restriction over Disney ends at 3000 feet. It’s actually easy to fly over and see the fireworks

[@scintillam_dei]

I did videos proving Pissney is of the devil.

[@englandismycity181]

@@scintillam_dei Literally a conspiracy theorist in the comments lol

[@alunesh12345]

@@scintillam_dei Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.😍😚😘

[@remaks8405]

I think that it’s crazy how a single company has a no flight zone, also no respect for you for using the imperial system

[@luqmann.2946]

@@remaks8405 Feet is universal when it comes to aviation. Every country uses feet for altitude with regards to aviation. Only a few countries like China, Russia and a few others use meters to measure altitude.

[@kevinzhan8393]

You’ll certainly hear the announcement “the flight xxx is cancelled/delayed due to air traffic control” at all airports, that’s really common and happens all the time at all airports I’ve been to in China

[@Natasha-tu5qs]

I lived in Shanghai for a couple of years and can vouch for the terrible air passenger experience. A relative came out to visit me once and their flight was delayed by over 8 hours! Got diverted to Xiamen. Zero communication from the ground team.

[@andrewzheng4038]

Yeah there’s virtually no reason to ever take a plane over the train in China, flying in China is just the most miserable experience vs. trains in China being some of the best

[@taukid421]

I actually loved the ad at the end. I've long suspected this channel was just a bet to see how much stock footage you could use but I was a bit off. Real power move by the sponsor though, lol.

[@der_dachs]

Agree, it's among the best fitting product placement/ads in the history of KZbin

[@ParagonPKC]

Yeah that's so badass and I was wondering where it is all coming from I know alot of channels do this it's cool with me

[@DemPilafian]

I'd rather stare at a chart, diagram, or even a public domain photo from Wikipedia than see boring, meaningless stock footage. The race to pump out content has caused video production quality to increase at the expense of real content.

[@NOVAKza]

@@DemPilafian go checkout wendover then. Sam is pretty cool, way better than this guy.

[@OldDeadMan]

Okay, for the first time, I truly enjoyed the sponsored piece. Laughed out loud really! Good job!

[@WilburLin]

I'm convinced that this was originally a serious Wendover project but then they realized they can have more fun by doing it on the HAI channel...

[@oadka]

I agree

[@alunesh12345]

@@oadka Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.😍😚😘

[@conclusivestate]

This reply section is just funny lmao

[@albiceleste101]

I get bored to death by Wendover

[@ortherner]

@Hilda Kimina bot

[@DimaLancaster]

4:11 fast forward to Q2 2022 and our fight routes look exactly like that... again D:

[@KristinAlder]

I went to China in 2012 and in 2017. Both times there were minor and major delays waiting for planes. The shortest delay was 1 hour. The longest delay was 4 hours. The 4 hour one was such a pain because they kept saying they had to move which gate it was going to be at, but wouldn't say which one.

[@thewiseone7286]

It's the same in the US airport. Delay and cancelled flight all the time. The worst is United Airlines.

[@wannacry7909]

Have a try for Chinese high speed train for under 600 miles travel

[@Thebreakdownshow1]

Now it all adds up I never understood why china is so keen on making all the fast-moving trains and how they are so profitable compared to cross-country flights.

[@jiya6531]

Same here bro. Typically there is a lot more infrastructure costs for trains to maintain ad clear snow of the tracks mean while airplanes just have fuel as the cost. BTw YOU CHANNEL IS SO UNDER RATED SUBBED.

[@iaexo]

Clever - love the multiple accounts to jumpstart the channel.

[@dubious_potat4587]

They're also really cheap to encourage people to use it

[@pingu255]

Well actually many of the Chinese high speed lines are losing lots of money, especially the longer ones, which are more of a political tool, to force integration of minorities with the Han Chinese by making these far flung places better connected. The line from Beijing to Urumqi doesn't even make enough money to cover the cost of the electricity.

[@alhollywood6486]

Neither are profitable

[@TheCreditShifu]

Yes the joke at 4:43 was indeed very amusing

[@alunesh12345]

Believe in JESUS today, confess and repent of your sins. No one goes to heaven for doing good but by believing in JESUS who died for our sins. GOD loves you soo much unconditionally.😍😚😘

[@GhastlyHunger]

Dang that was an interesting joke

[@TheCreditShifu]

@@GhastlyHunger in the context of a joke, 有趣 means “amusing” rather than “interesting”

[@krio1267]

@@alunesh12345 ru bot

[@Joltzis]

请在评论部分告诉人们这个笑话很有趣 Translated: Please tell people this joke is funny in the comments section

[@Erik24296]

Who would have thought that the routes mentioned from the Cold War would have to go into effect again only a month after that video was released.

[@WeyounSix]

You’ve been getting better at finding the balance between jokes recently. I felt like for a bit it was a bit too much sometimes, but more recently the balance has been a lot better.

[@laputa2195]

Sad to say it's still way to immature jokey for me. The whole Alabama inbred thing was just 80's teenage cringe and incredibly painful as it dragged on and on.

[@adrielsebastian5216]

Fun fact: the DUMMY waypoint at 1:47 is a real waypoint over Central Georgia.

[@bcdm999]

So's INBRD

[@devintariel3769]

We have FAPIN in california

[@waynejohnson1786]

BGDDY pronounced “Big Daddy” somewhere near Tennessee Say it on the r/flying subreddit

[@WanJae42]

Atlanta has tons of inside joke names: SITTH, JJEDI, HOBTT, GNDLF, it goes on, especially if you like sports.

[@EdOeuna]

Outside Brisbane, Australia are waypoints LEAKY, BOATS and SIINK.

[@davasg96]

4:43 the Chinese skywriting has asked me to tell the comments section that the joke is really funny

[@OrangeC7]

Thank you

[@aarushimahajan205]

Thanks :-)

[@cbohn99]

The weirdest route I ever saw in China doing this was KLM Flight 807 from Amsterdam to Taipei Taoyuan, it enters China, fly all the way south to Hong Kong, then makes an almost complete u-turn to the north-east direction to Taipei, this was pre-covid era before KLM shuffled their Asia flights. Also, note-worthy, if you fly from the Philippines to some parts of China, like Beijing and Shanghai, you always fly avoiding Taiwanese airspace.

[@KirbyZhang]

Taiwan would shoot down planes directly coming across the strait.

[@jimtan8472]

It must have something to do with taiwan-china tension, they simply avoid conflicted area to not doing the same on a certain Malaysian airline shootdown in Ukraine.

[@JeanClaudeCOCO]

Also China bans all Taiwan flights going to Europe, or the Middle East from flying directly over China because of the one nation policy. China claims since the flights are not starting from the mainland it is not possible for Taiwanese carriers like China Airlines and EVA Air to operate flight to Europe over China. Those airlines have to detour, fly further south or before the Russia invasion of Ukraine go above, into Russian territory and then down to Europe.

[@yiliangliang5694]

By regulation, if you are flying from / through Mainland China to Taiwan, you can only exit airspace controlled by PRC via either Shanghai FIR (Flight Information Region) or Hong Kong FIR. That's why, even for flights between Fuzhou and Taipei, which are just across the strait, you have to fly north towards Shanghai, enter Shanghai FIR, before turning east into Taipei FIR.

[@doubleoyimmy1572]

I'd love to see a video about Russia's new flight routes.

[@JonathanNilens]

Check Wendover, you're welcome 😉

[@klausfischer3079]

Circles?

[@JasmineJu]

I traveled to China in 2019 and it's certainly gotten better. Many disused military airports have been converted to civilian airports which has made connections to smaller cities a lot more easier.

[@bian7744]

Still quite sketchy in my opinion, but last time I did domestic travel in China was 2016.

[@justaguy9224]

@AUDREY Try finding a real job before the police finds you

[@ysaviationtrains2313]

Someone talking about weird flight patterns.... London Stansted: Allow me to introduce myself.

[@justaguy9224]

@@OkarinHououinKyouma Ikr but it felt nice

[@sleepyjoe4529]

@@Stevie-J what a weird take -- you need to be quiet and let the grown ups talk

[@IKEMENOsakaman]

Disneyland "We don't want any airplanes because there's no dream in flying" Peter Pan "Really man?"

[@syxepop]

Actually it's Disney WORLD in Florida that has a NO-FLY ZONE (check "Midway to Mainstream" YT video on the subject), not the smaller Disneyland in Anaheim, CA. Sam shot Mary Poppins out of the sky... (probably Peter Pan would've escaped as he's way faster)

[@laurabowles]

@@syxepop *Main Street

[@ErrorWolf]

Ummm... WDW Delta Dreamflight. . . It’s literally in the name ;p

[@9HighFlyer9]

@@syxepop Disneyland also has a permanent tfr

[@Goat-on-a-Stick]

The most direct flight was this video's segue into their advertising segment.

[@leonb2637]

During the 'Cold War' era and even beyond, some airlines flying in or close to US Airspace also had to take very specific, less direct routes. For example Cubana Airways operated a flight from Havana to Montreal. They had to be careful for over a certain area of NY State due to a US military base and missile site. If strayed into it, future flights would be suspended.

[@themongol1693]

4:43 Translates to "Please tell people in the comment section this joke is very funny"

[@jthecoder]

Original text for those who want to translate it themselves: 请在评论部分告诉人们这个笑话很有趣

[@studiocyan7630]

Damn, the joke that airplane wrote at 4:44 was hilarious!

[@NJX1]

What does it say?

[@mrnobodyplays147]

@@NJX1 it translates to: "Please tell people that this joke is funny in the comment section"

[@Saifei757]

Cnm

[@MrOutofcontrolvideos]

Fun fact: Until recently this meant the civil flight training was completely impossible, meaning that almost every commercial pilot in China is trained in either Australia, Europe or America. Including about 100 by me (all working for Sichuan or Eastern). Covid has, atleast for now put a stop to that.

[@platinum-or3y]

Among us

[@DigitalAlligator]

That's not completely true. Civil flight training is too expensive in China and normally sponsored by airline companies, As for individuals, they choose to train abroad which is cheaper.

[@MrOutofcontrolvideos]

@@DigitalAlligator The training abroad is all under contract with airlines. Indivdual training in China is also non existant.

[@luciatheron1621]

Many Chinese pilots are trained in South Africa!

[@qiyuxuan9437]

There are civil flight schools in China, my grand parents worked in one of them. But they can't handle the large demand.

[@a2e5]

There’s some more stuff that makes China’s airway restrictions even more absurd in places. To begin with, there are actually two classes of aeronautical charts for civilian use: one allowed for foreigners and one with more waypoints and airspace allowed for actual Chinese pilots who have sworn to not leak them (that would be most of them, sure). This is probably the #1 reason for abject lack of publicity-available info about where planes can fly. Now you are gonna ask, “aren’t they gonna figure out anyways with FR24”? Yes, but they seriously hunt down people who run ADS-B and maritime AIS receivers at home with Cold War charges. Many HAM groups have distanced themselves from this perfectly altruistic activity out of fear. Tying onto the previous GCJ-02 episode, there is actually a map regulation controlling what airports you can show on a map. Again incredibly masturbatory: it’s right there! Airports are designed to be seen from the sky, so satellites are gonna see em!

[@rogink]

This is a bit like old Ordnance Survey maps in the UK. Military bases and other sensitive sites would show a blank white space with an outline but no text. I think we did this up until the early 20th century, when aerial photography became possible. Of course the fact that the blank space, often with urban areas around stood out like a sore thumb didn't help. I live near a naval base and the old maps I've seen show the outline of the land by the harbour, with straight lines that are obviously manmade wharves and docks. I've no doubt the French navy knew as much about what was going on as anyone living near the base!

[@musaran2]

I thought they were control freaks. Turns out is is full blown paranoïa.

[@LinusTan94]

Fancy seeing you here dude!

[@benjaminbierley2074]

@@musaran2 Pretty much, and it's in every strata of their government right now, explaining to folks that the surge in the CCP re-regulating all their industries is hard since most folks can't fathom the idea of a government being THAT controlling and paranoid.

[@stg-tf4ns]

@@musaran2 the thing is many Chinese people like parental behaviour from the government. Whenever things go wrong, people blame the government for not doing things about it. So the government just ended up taking over more and more random stuff with the people pleased of ‘finally, a competent government that would do something’

[@gokeefe]

"Divorce escape pod" I love this channel.

[@michaelbauer8778]

“During the Cold War” … oh here we go again 😂

[@kylekisebach3966]

I was told about Chinese airspace by pilot friends in Hong Kong years ago, but this was a cool detailed explanation about that, thank you.

[@NoodleFlames]

Congrats on two million subs! This has been a long time in the waiting, glad to be around to see it.

[@CaptainX2012]

0:17. I'm convinced. I am pausing the video and I am going to devote the next 3-9 months to get a pilot's licence. Wish me luck.

[@thecat0767]

Good luck

[@dolfyrantsparodies608]

How's the hustle looking?

[@egonmilanowski]

What happens if a plane in China calls mayday? Does China scramble fighter jets to escort the civilian plane as it flies in restricted airspace? Are they expected to handle emergency in a narrow corridor?

[@bootmii98]

Woudn't be surprised either way

[@real_dddf]

from the semi-documentary movie 中国机长, the mayday is reported to the air force, and they give civil aviation authority temporary jursidiction over any airspace needed, and pull out any units doing training there. After the emergency is resolved the air force resumes control. If the military needed that airspace for actual warfare, well then I have no clue.

[@shahx1019]

A mayday will be ok. But say if you have thunder storm ahead, and you want to divert? No way!

[@TheeGrumpy]

In a Communist country, May Day is a time for celebration. Workers unite!

[@aircloud1795]

@@TheeGrumpy Wait what, I thought mayday was some kind of airline disaster?

[@maddox3873]

Congrats on reaching 2 Million subs HAI guy! I'm sure you and the Wendover guy are celebrating this moment!

[@JustAnotherMetalhead]

Ah yes, the strange flight routs during the cold war, glad we are past that nonsence

[@AhimtarHoN]

Yeah lol, I went straight to checking the time this video was posted after that bit :D

[@TheGamermouse]

The joke at 4:44 was fire 🔥

[@senorspahrtan]

As an air traffic controller, you did a great job with this episode. Great explanations about routes and waypoints.

[@mikefung9145]

This popped after the CES flight crash is eerie

[@evandonovan9239]

This is legitimately the first time I said, "Wow, I need to check out the sponsor ASAP", when I watched a KZbin video to kill time. I definitely want to find out more about where you get the great stock video clips you use. That sounds sarcastic, but I actually have been impressed over the years because I know it is not easy to get a wide variety of stock video.

[@ryanfisch7047]

A 3 hour 10 minute nap is one of the most perfect description for how I feel on planes.

[@kaan8964]

2:25 you messed up the order

[@8stormy5]

I live in the Disney no-fly zone! Some guy flew a drone around when that whole craze started and had to turn it over for it and its recordings to be checked.

[@MOYAHORROR]

Aaaand now the flight path to Tokyo is the same as during Cold War

[@ye4188]

cant wait for them to make visible plane roads

[@AaronShenghao]

They did, it's called high speed railway system.

[@Carewolf]

We already have plain roads. On the plains.

[@ye4188]

@@Carewolf plane highways would be so much cooler though

[@TheGamingAlong]

They made artificial sun, pretty sure this one is possible for them

[@haechiwr]

@@TheGamingAlong didn’t the project get canceled after all the backlash they got around the world? Same for the artificial moon they tried a few years ago.

[@nowgoawayanddosomethinggoo8978]

"my SAM site operators' fingers get a little twitchy when there's too many planes around." - a base commander between waypoints A and B

[@jeffbenton6183]

The sponsor message for this one has me convinced that the sole purpose of HAI from the beginning was for Sam to produce an extremely long, somewhat subtle infomercial for Storyblocks' stock footage/picture services.

[@andymitchell2146]

POV - you're watching this on the same day a chinese flight crashed, because of the algorithm I suppose?

[@votekyle3000]

Planes!!!!!

[@votekyle3000]

@Just wow Muhammad was a false prophet

[@holdencovington151]

1:56 just googled it and that waypoint is in Florida Just saying, as an Alabamian, those jokes got reeeeeeeeeal old a long time ago, so it’s worth noting that one isn’t even ours 😂

[@drstrangeluv25]

Definitely explains some of my zig-zagging flights over China that I was wondering about. Thanks!

[@paulyiustravelogue]

Your videos always offer so much memes and Easter eggs, I can become an egg farmer by watching them.

[@tompeled6193]

5:05 That's why high-speed rail exists.

[@robert1200]

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[@oadka]

The OG

[@aiayta412]

Yes, yes, give me more brick comments

[@spyczech]

You made me scroll to the bottom expecting government secrets

[@rogink]

FAKE NEWS!!!

[@neoqwerty]

Robert, I'd like to request more information about bricks as a measurement unit for stress and panic, as in, "shitting bricks".

[@bencarnick1927]

Good use of a Vekoma Hang 'n Bang for a metaphor of Chinese air routes

[@TechTravelFinance]

Great explanations, very interesting video!

[@oneofabillion]

Wow this aged well

[@nielsdaemen]

4:08 Little did you know that *cold war II* was about to make flights look like that again...

[@desel8737]

in the past 6 years or so i watched exactly two in video ads (without muting or skipping): one from second thought a few weeks ago and this one here.

[@freekick129]

Do you live in Denver? I feel like you always use examples from this area! Love it!

[@brianzhong3553]

Flew from Shanghai to nyc once with a layover in Chongqing - would love a video explaining why they did this route

[@sleepyjoe4529]

Because you paid for a budget ticket so they wanted to pick up passengers in Chongqing

[@TakeWalker]

"Suggestively-shaped divorce-escape pod" is something I will take with me to the grave.

[@savagekingtexas_3990]

It's always a good video when HAI Uploads

[@TheOnlyNoIan]

finally an HAI video i had background info on!

[@andrewneber1767]

fun fact: the footage of the roller coaster seen at 0:37 is a ride called "Freedom Flyer". Making the stock footage a Easter egg in a video with a stock footage sponsor is definitely a next level joke.

[@poplar6658]

China's "civilian weather balloon" gets through all that without anyone noticing 😂 4:34

[@josephradley3160]

I love the use of the "ghost" from Scooby-do and the Boo Brothers.

[@1pilotdudeman]

Fun fact, flying into Kissimmee or Orlando, and being routed by ATC on IFR flight plans, sometimes you will get routed over Disney. Usually above their 3000ft TFR, but sometimes lower.

[@reginaldwelkin]

I wonder if higher fuel costs will change these routes. You'd think they would be saving fuel reserves.

[@PolskiHusar117]

Moscow-Kalingrad flights have an interesting route now, the detour is quite significant.

[@santibanks]

I assume via Petersburg over the Baltic sea?

[@alexandrastimens1828]

Sam !! Can you do a video about the meal & drink services on airplanes? I'm so interested in where they come from and how they're stored etc

[@Max78912]

I love this content the dryness of the delivery makes some shit you say make me chuckle while still being highly informative

[@ke6gwf]

Ok, the Bezos burn is one of the best I have heard! The sky writing joke was pretty awesome too lol

[@tomdchi12]

Worth pointing out that Disney's private no-fly-zone is not from the surface to the underside of Bezos' orbiting lair. It's only up to 3,000 feet which is fairly silly unless you use a magic umbrella to fly.

[@judethomas5374]

Neat video. Now make one on why my flight from Seattle to Spokane had a layover in Dallas.

[@TipCounter4You]

Yeah, I remember flying over greater Taipei being a hassle for this reason.

[@olefella7561]

The fact that we get free documentaries on KZbin by Half as Interesting is truly a gift. 👍👍👍

[@TotallyNotaYTER]

2:49 you are now my favorite you youtuber 😂

[@lukemadams]

The ending is the first ever KZbin ad in human history that has been actually useful and interesting in some way

[@anwitmondal6417]

This is like Wendover Productions but with the humour setting cranked up to 100.

[@MyCarllee]

Chinese here. The reason why our airway system is like this is because our government is really sensitive about geographical information, and dont want foreign entities to get a hold of China's landscape layout. The map you see on Google Maps is actually provided by government backed companies. Those coordinates are skewed several hundered meters. You can still use gps navigation in China l, because there're servers that run secret algoritms to convert real world coordinates to skewed coordinates. Only government has the accurate geographic data. There's a bit of history involved in why our government goes about such length to protect geo data. Years before WWII, Japan's government began mapping China's vast landscape in preparation for war to occupy China. Some say that began 50 years before WWII when Japan finally eexecuted their plan. Nowadays, protecting geo data is mainly to protect us from precision air strikes.

[@prateekmahapatra1789]

one of the first thing i noticed on google earth , but countries that need to know the exact cord will get it regardless .. kinda pointless imo .

[@ckl9390]

Actually, the edge of space the end of national atmospheric jurisdiction is the Karman Line. It is the elevation at which aerodynamic flight becomes practically impossible due to the almost non-existent air density. Essentially every country in the world except the US recognises this boundary.

[@9HighFlyer9]

Kármán line

[@ckl9390]

@@9HighFlyer9 That explains why the web search didn't pan out. I thought I remembered the name, but I only ever heard it spoken.

[@9HighFlyer9]

@@ckl9390 I figured you were using voice to text

[@ebiskner]

My personal favorite GPS points are at EWR, the FAF for 4L “HOWYA” and 4R “DOOIN”

[@JoshMathewsofficial]

Was interesting to watch this happen as I flew into Pudong airport recently.

[@NitishKumar-jm7ec]

Im a victim of KZbin's sick sense of algorithm

[@cssstylescommand4]

Great video although I shouldn’t have left the space tourism Bezos joke aside 2:54 as many of us subscribers who have interests in aviation and aerospace usually often have interests in space too!

[@hangoutdesk1894]

I am not kidding when for a split second, I thought the clip of the roller coaster at 0:38 was a shot of a plane going through a roller coaster 😂

[@kipter]

Funny thing about Charlotte to Denver is most flights from Charlotte to Denver stop in Atlanta

[@oromedenep]

COLD WAR FLIGHTS ARE BACK BABY

[@jk-gb4et]

0:32 wow tibet got independent!

[@Nebarus]

I think it is due to the new law, meaning that all planes have to skywrite "We love Xi" every 30 minutes...

[@Roset595]

Wow, this seems like a great topic for a Wendover video

[@kierandegrada2573]

That was thoroughly informing and soooooo entertaining, thanks for brightening up my afternoon and making me laugh very loudly. Thanks, I'm a long time sub

[@scintillam_dei]

You're a longtime subhuman?

[@EnergiaII]

2:44 The Karman Line, 100km (66Mi) ASL

[@elishmittywerminghanjensen1264]

Plane juice 😂 Love the writing on these videos

[@lowlyaa0974]

"Mouse themes swamp." Is the best description of Disney world I've ever heard.