Halloween (1978) vs. Halloween (2007)

[@tparkerevans7165]

Rob Zombie’s raunchy/over the top style of filmmaking is more suited for Texas Chainsaw Massacre, not Halloween. As for the next comparison, I’m interested in seeing Halloween H20 and Halloween (2018) or the original Halloween II and Halloween Kills where both take places moments after the previous entry all night with the gore being amp up

[@edgarbachman9037]

I agree with 2018 and H20, they’re really going for the same thing. So I think a compare and contrast would work well

[@fallen119]

House of a 1000 Corpses is his version of Texas Chainsaw

[@davemeads859]

@@edgarbachman9037 it really does come across as homage to TCM even the devil's rejects felt similar to the sequel with Dennis Hopper. Bill Moseley was great in the devil's rejects trilogy and as chop top in TCM2 RIP Sid Haig

[@jtbcu2269]

Rob Zombie's "Texas Chainsaw Massacre" would have been a perfect fit instead of "Halloween." What a missed opportunity!

[@benbastianiartmusic1421]

Halloween 1978 - Michael appears to have had a generic middle class upbringing and suddenly snaps one night. Halloween 2007 - Michael comes from a troubled background and gradually descends into madness. The former is my preferred backstory for Michael. The suddenness of his transformation into evil and lack of explanation makes it scarier.

[@Brandoneric41]

Another dope video! Rob zombie never ever stood a chance. Halloween 78 is a horror masterpiece.

[@boverhof3]

This like a "Pedicure VS. Stubbing Your Toe On The Coffee Table" debate

[@HauntedHippie]

HAHAH

[@Steven-re9ln]

I also have nostalgia for RZ Halloween. It was the first horror movie I saw in theatres. It came out in September for some reason and I had just turned 14. I made my dad take me to it for my bday. First 5 minutes into the film with that opening dialogue I could tell he regretted it lmao

[@dino91001]

Was it the kiss song? Lol

[@KinggDC]

@@dino91001prolly William forsythe dude screamed “I will crawl over there and skull fuck the shit outta you” 😭😭

[@robk.6591]

What makes the '78 so much better is how little we understand about Michael. We just can't figure out his motives and that makes him scarier. With Rob Zombie's version we understand what makes him so angry and we can use that info. as an audience to disarm Michael. The "less is more" approach that Spielberg used in showing the shark in Jaws works better here. Plus few people can frame a shot in horror like John Carpenter. The '78 version is just so much better to look at. Great video Kylie! 👏 🍻

[@HauntedHippie]

Couldn’t agree more!!

[@zachtaylor5312]

I am impressed at how well-spoken and informative you are with your content. You put some others to shame with how much effort you put in. Great comparison

[@HauntedHippie]

🥺🥺❤️

[@intelligencecycle3523]

The Original Halloween 78 is a classic horror film and We didn’t know already about Michael Myers motives for why he kills he’s more methodical appearance in the shadows and you’re encapsulated into the mysterious realm of his world. Jamie Lee Curtis as Laurie strode the OG final girl the more recognizable icons in horror movie history. I appreciate you breaking down both these films Kylie, can you do The next horror movie comparison is Evil Dead 81 vs Evil dead 2013?

[@HauntedHippie]

Oo that would be a great one!

[@dkres82]

People really do try to fool themselves into thinking there’s hints at them being siblings in 1. Some even swear the reveal is in the 1st one and that’s hilarious to me.

[@Crackedout427]

Halloween (78) is and always will be a classic. There’s a reason it’s still talked about & praised today, over 40 years after it came out. The remake is & still will be an afterthought. Also just wanted to say that I’m new to & enjoying your channel this October. Great content for this month. By any chance are you gonna do a react video to the new Scream trailer?

[@HauntedHippie]

Thank you and welcome! No I actually stay as far away from trailers as I can 😅

[@stuartgeorge2324]

Original Halloween 🎃 film is my favourite but I'm a 70s 80 s kid

[@Dparish24]

I think Rob Zombie did have commentaries in mind. He mentioned in his commentary for DC version the intention of the rape scene was to bring awareness that does happen in mental institutions. Also PETA praised Zombie for bringing awareness for torture of animals and likelihood to move on to humans.

[@devinmccurry4235]

I honestly think Rob zombie made one of the best if not the best remake I'm film or horror history in my opinion, I love the more destructive and edgy tone, more frighting, watched when I was a kid, and watched it ever since

[@peterfrost377]

Night of the living dead 1968 vs 1990 and The Blob 1958 vs 1988 :)

[@paulbowler5345]

I still like the original Halloween film best, a great horror classic 🎃

[@J-DEVTV]

Good comparison video! 1978 Halloween wins for me, but surprisingly it's not my favorite movie!

[@PyramidHead316]

Malcolm McDowell is an actor who is very underrated. He's done some interesting things in his career: Halloween, Lexx, etc. He's probably best known for his performance as Alex DeLarge in "A Clockwork Orange" as his defining film performance, and on television for the "Fantasy Island" reboot; and a slew of cameo appearances. But he's never really gotten the credit he deserves. I think he's a fine actor who just doesn't get a lot of roles that are very visible. I can appreciate him trying to portray a very different Dr. Loomis, and not letting himself getting influenced by the original. The thing about Michael's height is kind of similar to Jason's height in "Freddy vs Jason". Ronny Yu insisted that Jason had to be taller than Freddy, and it's like, why? Jason is already stronger than any mortal human, and physically stronger than Freddy himself. Why does he have to be taller? It brings nothing to the role. I don't know why Rob Zombie felt he had to turn Michael into some hulking beast to be effective, when some of the most brutal serial killers in our own history have just been skinny, wiry guys and they just take you off-guard. Someone below said his style would have been much more effective for "Texas Chainsaw Massacre", and they're right. For Leatherface, you *want* a raging, hulking beast.

[@tylerwatts3347]

I will say this, Rob zombie's style of humor did not work at all for the remake.

[@Grayfox82]

5:42 As far as Halloween 2 goes, Carpenter originally didn’t want to do it. Carpenter: “We’re making the same movie, only not as good.” And according to John, what got him through in making part 2 was Budweiser.

[@123rockfan]

Just imagine Gore Verbinski directing the 2007 remake, with the same flair and foreboding as The Ring.

[@HauntedHippie]

That would’ve been crazy!!

[@whoisthisman4269]

I just watched Halloween(2007). By a Country MILE, I prefer the original Halloween(1978) any day of the week.

[@opaque4742]

By an Olympic marathon the original takes it. Not even in the same galaxy. Gourmet meal (1978) vs overbaked turd (2007)

[@Playboyracksdepute1900]

Any day 💯 Zombie cool it's just some about the original

[@JayP7178]

Exactly -- the difference between predictable and nonpredictable. The main problem in doing a Halloween remake is that the original was so much still in the public's movie-going consciousness that it held its ground. John Carpenter took a very ambiguous approach to the slasher movie, of making a 'boogeyman' out of a mute psychopath, and filmed it in a manner that, as Ebert pointed out, could be comparable to Hitchcock. Rob Zombie didn't take that route. His style mixes the slapdash 70's B-movie splatter-movie throwback approach he used in The Devil's Rejects with the conventions of Halloween, and very quickly it becomes a deterrent to whatever he's trying to do in the script. Once or twice it almost seems as if he might try and improve as a director in some scenes, but then he falls back on shaky hand-held camera-work and lots of gore. But that's only one gripe to have, and probably not even the central one. Probably the biggest flaw in Zombie's construction of the film is in making the ambiguous not only nil, but juxtaposing a new theorem to Myers' psychology. I think it's just an acquired taste in the mix of all the other sequels. A rather big misguided opportunity.

[@jwnj9716]

H 78 wins for sure. Not a fan of Zombie's H, it has a few decent moments but the dialogue is a joke. Brad Dourif should have been the lead.

[@Steven-re9ln]

There's a few things I like more about RZ Halloween. The atmosphere is better cause it actually feels like fall compared to the original. I like the soundtrack more in zombies movie and if I were standing across from Nick as Michael and Tyler as Michael I know which one I'd be afraid of. I still know carpenters movie is better tho.

[@ojmcclanahan689]

Well said, man. I'd definitely be more afraid of Tyler as Michael Myers. Dude's a house with legs, lol.

[@BlackRainbowHorror]

It’s crazy how movies get bad reviews when they first come out then as the years go by it gets good ones. Like my short film Baseball Massacre and now it’s getting a 10 year anniversary at our local indie theater and it’s more appreciated now.

[@DavidJackson-vj2oi]

It was the audio/ sound track that changed critics minds

[@dreadfuljack2694]

Malcolm McDowell was awesome as always, truly a great actor ! While we are at Malcolm, may you do A Clockwork Orange review ?

[@chriscze6153]

I just want to say that I came across your channel because you are literally the only youtuber to discuss the Scream TV series it seems? amazing show, also loved season 3 like you, and I just became a fan of your stuff in general. these comparison videos are great and while this one is super obvious who wins, it was nice to get into some background details I didn't know about either film. Would have loved to hear you roast Halloween 2007 even more :) thanks again for everything! Looking forward to Texas Chainsaw comparison.

[@HauntedHippie]

😂😂 hell yea thank you!!

[@innovade7887]

@@HauntedHippie I also found you through your Scream Season 3 review. lol

[@mcs-bl6sg]

This shouldn't even be a debate. The original 1978 movie wins, in every single aspect, every. Single. Time.

[@123rockfan]

It seems like a lot of people who love the original Texas Chainsaw Massacre and hate 1978 Halloween, tend to love this 2007 remake

[@josephmoseri2283]

Just stumbled across your channel. Love the video! I subscribed because it's nice knowing there are people out there who loathe Rob Zombie as much as I do. Happy Halloween!

[@HauntedHippie]

Hahah welcome!!

[@RR-hu6vo]

In the Netflix show, The Movies that made us.. Halloween episode, they debunk that it was suppose to be called “ The Babysitter Murders!” They say it was a rumor and they don’t know where the name came from.

[@HauntedHippie]

That’s super weird, it was one of the fun facts on the blu ray!

[@RR-hu6vo]

@@HauntedHippie I might have missed understood what Irwin yablans was saying then, he might have been sarcastic, it was late and I was tired when I watched… sorry if I got my facts wrong.

[@HauntedHippie]

@@RR-hu6vo no you could very well be right! It’s just weird to me that they put in a false fact on the bly ray 😅

[@Grayfox82]

4:18 Great video! And, yes! I still think Nick Castle is the best Myers. Agree on Castle’s grace of movement, especially the scene where Myers scraps Laurie’s arm and the following shot, Myers appears out of the darkness, and music and chase starts.

[@HauntedHippie]

Ooo yes beautiful moment

[@Grayfox82]

@@HauntedHippie Absolutely beautiful! One of my favorite shots in the entire movie, and when he walks down the stairs and lighting of his mask… just masterful shots!

[@amilcarmusah4218]

Do you mean the scene where Mуеrs misses the target? I'm not a fan. Then he will miss a few more times in this movie. In Halloween 2 (1981) and Halloween Kills, similar scenes play out much better.

[@Grayfox82]

@@amilcarmusah4218 I meant the shot where the music starts, as he begins to chase Laurie. The way Nick Castle walks is something that never been replicated.

[@Dparish24]

I would love to see your comparison with Halloween 2018. Maybe instead of comparing to the original, maybe compare to original Halloween II? Just a thought

[@snowdriftmoon]

thank you for your service

[@KillerLooks]

I feel ya... Zombie's 🎃 does have supernatural The Shape...the same curse from 79, Samhain...

[@stephen23greenwood]

I watched the Rob zombie Halloween with the commentary on years ago, (it was the director's cut) and during the scene where Micheal escapes zombie said that they had shot the scene but it made him feel uncomfortable and it wasn't working so they changed it to the scene that was in the theatrical cut. He didn't seem excited about the scene being in the director's cut saying something along the lines of they asked me to put together a director's cut and I had to add stuff and change stuff so that's why I put the scene back in.

[@gillywinters1162]

Rob Zombie gives his villains character arcs

[@WhataGhoulWants]

Such a thorough and detailed comparison, absolutely loved it! You’re killing these Kylie, I can’t wait for the Texas Chainsaw one 😱

[@HauntedHippie]

Thanks Ana 🥺❤️

[@willy565]

Everybody has an opinion, and I understand. However, people need to quit saying that Zombie's adaptation was a "Re-Make". It was not. It was Zombie's "Vision" of what he wanted to do with the story from the start. Zombie gets pooped on way too much. It wasn't as bad as people say it was. You can't compare the 2.

[@HauntedHippie]

It was, he didn’t do almost anything new with the story lmfao. Watch the video for proof. Given that it’s a direct remake why on earth would you not be able to compare the two ??

[@123rockfan]

@willy565 The first half is basically a prequel, and the other half is a direct remake. He remade 4 of the most iconic scenes from the original.

[@sammy1552]

I really don’t hate Rob Zombie’s remake. I like a few elements such as Malcom Mcdowell Loomis, Tyler Mane’s portrayal as a more brutal Michael, Laurie’s more likable interaction with Tommy and Lindsey, and Brad Douriff. Nothing ever comes close to the original but John Carpenter told Rob to make it his own so I can’t shit on it for being different. Although, I do prefer Rob’s Halloween 2 over the remake.

[@keithcrook8591]

I think I’m about one of the only people that prefers Zombie’s Halloween movies. They have their flaws no doubt, but I loved how visceral they are. I liked how Myers was portrayed as a monster but definitely felt the pain..not a Demi god with a knife that couldn’t even be hurt. Is it better than 78? No..but watch Zombie’s THEN watch part 3 through h20…makes those damn near unwatchable.

[@zaknolan7562]

I wonder if you would appreciate Zombies Firefly trilogy. He hit his stride way more on those films. Don't go in the house is a great watch for your 70s video

[@angelcruz9911]

I rewatched the remake a few days ago and it was worst than I originally thought, I fucking hated it

[@armando7060]

23:21 "Carpenter, classy. Zombie, nasty." Yes, that alone is a great summary of the movies. I hate that Scout Tyler Compton bagged on JLC's Laurie. While a "boring bookworm" og Laurie feels like a real person that I can root for. Scout's Laurie feels like the actual boring one. I can't root for remake Laurie or her friends.

[@letstrot96]

Halloween 78 will always be the superior movie without it Rob Zombie wouldn’t have made his remake of it. i’m not a fan of Rob Zombie’s Halloween that was way too much for me

[@kirkhensley5870]

The only problem I have with Halloween is Michael Myers coming back so many times that even Jason came back from space to Camp Crystal Lake saying, "All right! Enough already, Michael! Even I know when it's time to quit!"

[@dduval59]

I'm way more charitable to RZH than most, but I'll fully admit Rob Zombie was not the right choice to remake Halloween. But I have no idea who would have been the right choice, because Halloween is SO iconic and so signature Carpenter that remaking it is just a fool's errand. It's not like Friday the 13th where a remake could have actually improved on the originals. There are parts of RZH I like. Danny Trejos death scene was a real bummer in a good way. I like Michael trying to reach out to Laurie when he kidnaps her. I also like the ambiguity of if Michael was helping her aim the gun or if he was fighting her off before she blows his head off. Michael's costume at the time was the best since the original, especially the mask.

[@KillerLooks]

2007 and 2009 are soooo 🔥

[@littlejoey9711]

Can we get a updated Halloween movie ranking with kills now

[@HauntedHippie]

I think I’m going to wait until next year for Ends!!

[@culturalappropriation1254]

Both movies are great, although I do prefer the remake

[@kyle3554]

I love both movies and I also love your comparison videos so much. Next you should do Carrie from 1976 vs Carrie from 2013.

[@duhduh666]

Fright Night would be a good one to do.

[@kahrahnoel814]

John Carpenter's Halloween is more superior than Rob Zombie's Halloween. Same thing with both versions of Halloween 2. BTW, love your videos, Kylie!!

[@jasoneubank514]

Halloween is one of the best debut horror movies in history and I do love the remake of Halloween it's a awesome remake.

[@SamM_Scot]

The only Halloween movies that matter in my eyes are the classic '78 and underrated '81 sequel, which finished the story arc. I do also have a soft spot for the wildly different and original Season of the Witch. I absolutely despise the Rob Zombie movies that completely miss the whole point of The Shape/Michael Myers character along with bland filmmaking, awful screenwriting and no atmosphere whatsoever :-)

[@sam-v3c8p]

I like both movies.

[@Yisau117]

hope you do one day: the last house on the left 1972 vs the last house on the left 2009

[@DemetriB0329]

I prefer the original Didn't like rob zombies film.

[@jakeweimer5736]

Unpopular Opinion: Halloween ll is SO underrated and does not deserve to be a 31% on Rotten Tomatoes.

[@chriscze6153]

Halloween 2 is great for 30 minutes then settles into a hospital with boring or non existent characters for an hour. It's fine for what it is, nothing more.

[@jakeweimer5736]

@@chriscze6153 That’s fair but I think people hate on it too much and it should be higher rated.

[@chriscze6153]

@@jakeweimer5736 I personally give it a 3/5 and is in my top 3 Halloween sequels. It definitely doesn't deserve full on hatred, but I can't imagine anyone who isn't a Halloween franchise fanboy liking or loving the sequel.

[@johnnygunzfilmbuff7821]

Kylie if you asked me my answer halloween 78 hands down the remake no thanks

[@vancepichardo5741]

Even though I understand why you don't like the Rob Zombie Halloween films, I personally like the first one and absolutely love the second one. The second one took a lot of risks and Rob Zombie had balls to do what he did. Most of those risks I absolutely love. I like how the typical grindhouse 70's porno dialoge is almost gone for the majority of the film. Brad Dourif (voice of Chucky from Child's Play) is awesome and Danielle Harris is spectacular as always. Scout Taylor Compton in overlooked and underrated as Laurie. Tyler Mane is the most brutal interpretation of Michael Myers EVER. The score by Tyler Bates is great and the cover of Love Hurts by Nan Vernon is haunting and a beautiful callback to the first Rob Zombie Halloween movie (Sheri Moon Zombie danced on a strip pole to this song). I really hope more people understand why I love the movie and don't think I'm a psychopath for loving it. Also. Rob Zombie's best movie to date is The Devils Rejects because it's trying to be fun AND horrifying. It just works for me.

[@AzeezFarooqi96]

Nice job. You made some awesome and relevant points regarding both films. As for future videos… I’d love to hear you talk about Black Christmas (1974) and maybe even a comparison between the different Black Christmas films. It’d be cool to see during the holiday season! :)

[@darrenatkinson8833]

I totally respect how Rob Zombie did give a back story for Michael so it shows us why he is as F'd up like he is. The only stable person in his life was his baby sister. He just got pushed so far with his home life and the bullies at school and he just snapped. Sinec his escape he is going after the only thing that was stable in his life and will stop at nothing to get that back into his life and keep it.

[@tornapart]

I’m a simple boi! I see a haunted hippie I like the video immediately without even thinking 👁👄👁 hahaha

[@calebgamer4594]

I really love the Halloween franchise a lot thank you for posting this I really enjoyed it ❤❤❤

[@ShyheemOfTheDead]

Loving The All Black & Dark Red Gothic Victorian Vibes You Had Going In This Video. The Dark Red Lipstick Was A Dope Touch💯 ❤️🎸🖤

[@HauntedHippie]

Thank you!! ❤️

[@ShyheemOfTheDead]

I Easily Agree With A Lot Of The Subjects & Details Of Comparisons You Made Between Both Films. Obviously A Lot Of Them Have To Deal With The Style, Quality, The Gore Factor, Tension, Suspense, Different Actors & Certain Elements Of The Stories.... But Just The Overall Quantity Of Grittiness Between The Original & Rob Zombie's Version Is Definitely What Sets It Apart From One Another. I Personally Prefer The Original Halloween Always & Forever Compared To Rob Zombie's. I Love Scout Taylor & Danielle Harris Very Much As Respectable Actresses But Admittedly Said For Me At Least, Not Even They Could Save The Messy Decencies Of What Rob Zombie's Halloween Had To Offer.

[@adamquiles2468]

Always loved the 1978 original but hated Zombies remake and never bothered to watch that one again

[@joshdillon9637]

You could change the name of the remake and the names of the characters and no one would make the connection. I also think the remake would've been received much better as a Rob Zombie original. He was already known for making movies with outlandish characters and settings and Halloween '07 really isn't much of a departure from his other films in that regard.

[@miguelbrymn3426]

I agree that Michael Myers is better mysterious than understood.

[@ojmcclanahan689]

I personally loved both versions. I feel like it's a little unfair to compare the two films though because they're two very different films. John Carpenter made a movie about babysitters being stalked and killed on Halloween night by a faceless force of evil incarnate called "The Shape". That sums up the entire story. Rob Zombie made a movie about a flesh and blood psychopath named Michael Myers that escapes a psych ward and returns to his hometown on Halloween night looking for his baby sister. That's two very different stories with very different characters... I believe in my heart that if RZ's Halloween was an original piece and not a remake of a beloved classic, people would view RZ's Halloween as a classic much like they view The Devil's Rejects.

[@kentuckycunctator]

I hated Zombieween for a while but have at least come to understand what it is trying to say. As you say, Michael is no longer a universal force of evil (the shape) but a particular person in a particular place and time in Zombieween. I wish Zombie wouldn't have discarded the maligned Cult of Thorn story line from previous sequels. If he has a skill, it's at making ensemble pieces about groups of evil weirdos.

[@ogreboy1992]

Great video while I do love the Rob Zombie version I definitely agree on everything you said the original is a masterpiece. Idk if you know there is a sequel to The Blob that came out in 1971

[@thejoker9998]

I Greatly prefer the theatrical version of this film to the Unrated one. the additions they made in the unrated version were all largely unnecessary. the main issue is Micheals's escape scene in the unrated is just terrible whereas his hulking out and taking out all those guards was much more badass. And the scene where young Micheal kills the nurse was done in a better more subtle way than the nurse adding 'Couldn't be related to you' after seeing the picture of Micheal and baby Laurie together and then proceeding to turn her back on him.

[@Metsfan2011]

Fantastic video, and really spot on with your observations. Well done!

[@jorgeillueca5260]

Joe freaking Grizzly

[@patrickriordan6706]

Great video as always. Since I was not then a subscriber of your channel yet when you did most of your Halloween franchise review series last year, I might as well take this opportunity to give my thoughts on both of these films. With Halloween 1978 I really don't feel like there's a lot I have to say about that movie, because I would basically just be parroting what everyone else and their mom has said about that movie for the last 40+ years. It's a horror classic. Nick Castle's Michael Myers is one of the most iconic villains in film history. Jamie Lee Curtis and Donald Pleasence are also huge icons in the genre. The atmosphere and tension is great, the score is simple, yet so effective, iconic & memorable as film music....yep, what did I tell ya, I'm parroting lol. Since I think everyone reading this gets the point by now, I'm just gonna move on to RZ's Halloween. Rob Zombie's movie is a film I have a love/hate relationship with. I don't HATE this movie on the level some other fans do, per se. I don't even think it's the worst of this franchise tbh (Cough cough *Halloween 5* cough cough). I can watch this movie and get SOME enjoyment out of certain aspects of it. For example, the kills. This is actually quite an entertaining movie for me from a gore/carnage candy perspective. Tyler Mane's Michael is in competition with James Jude Courtney as the most brutal Michael Myers we've ever gotten on film. Even subjectively I just really like the more brutal portrayal of Michael that Rob Zombie goes for with this film. Now don't get me wrong, Nick Castle's portrayal of the Shape is perfect for the version of the character that John Carpenter and co. were going for in the original 1978 film. But if you were to put Nick Castle's Michael and Tyler Mane's Michael both in front of me and have them both chase after me, I can almost guarantee you I'd be 1000X more scared of Tyler Mane's Michael for the sheer imposing hulk of a man he is and the brutality of the kills. But for every one thing the film does right, it gets far more wrong. This film has a LOT of problems. Even though I appreciate the fact Rob Zombie tried to go in a different creative direction with this source material and not just do a carbon copy retread of the 78 film (Even though he kinda does that anyway with the third act basically just being a cliff notes version of the original John Carpenter film), the actual story direction he chooses to take Michael in this film is not nearly as effective as it was in the original John Carpenter film. By exploring the human side of Michael, his terrible home life and why he became this psychotic killing machine, it really misses the mark on what made the original Nick Castle Michael Myers such an effective and iconic villain. He's supposed to be motiveless evil who kills because....well, because he can. No rhyme or reason for it, that's just who he is in that original movie. While exploring Michael's backstory does humanize him quite a bit and on paper would work pretty well for any other character of this type, that was never who Michael was supposed to be and it turns Michael into any other psychotic killer with severe mental health issues, thus taking away a large part of what makes Michael Myers "Michael Myers". Scout Taylor Compton as Laurie Strode is annoying as f*** in this first RZ movie, for pretty much all the reasons you listed in your review, but also for the incessant annoying screaming she does in the third act and for the lack of any real character depth or progression. Now I'm of the rather unpopular opinion that I think RZ greatly improved on Laurie as a character in his second movie, but since we're not talking about that movie here, I can't use that as a defense for her character in this particular film. She's just a terrible character in this first movie and obviously doesn't hold a candle to the original Laurie Strode played by Jamie Lee Curtis. Malcolm McDowell was..."fine" as Doctor Loomis. The problem is he's just not given that much to work with here. He's not given much to do or say that hadn't already been done better by Donald Pleasence as the character. Rob Zombie also really drops the ball with the second act with Michael and Dr. Loomis at Smith's Grove. We never really got to know what Michael and Dr. Loomis's relationship was in that original JC movie at Smith's grove. The remake had an opportunity to explore that more in depth with the second act at Smith's Grove, and even though I'm not a fan of the direction of humanizing the character of Michael, this was one thing I was genuinely interested in seeing get explored in the remake. Yet they skirt past that quicker than I would have liked and only really give us two (Maybe three?) scenes with them together, and both times I really didn't get the sense that Loomis had seen "The Devil's Eyes" in Michael, or that he was genuinely becoming afraid of Michael or what he could be capable of if he were to ever get out. The acting and the dialogue I'm not even gonna waste my breath on that, because I'd just be parroting what you said in your video. The only three actors who I thought gave genuinely good performances in this film were Malcolm McDowell as I already described, franchise alumni Danielle Harris as Annie Brackett (Who I actually think is a better actress here than the actress who played Annie in the original, despite the "Rob Zombisms" displayed by the character), and Brad Dourif as Chu--oops, I mean, Sheriff Leigh Brackett (Whose performance across both of these RZ movies is so good, especially in the second film, that this material almost doesn't deserve it). Well I think I've gotten everything off my plate regarding RZ's Halloween. To conclude, here are some of my suggestions for future film comparison videos on your channel: *Rick Rosenthal's Halloween II vs Rob Zombie's Halloween II or *Rick Rosenthal's Halloween II vs Halloween Kills *Halloween H20 vs Halloween (2018) *Child's Play (1988) vs Child's Play (2019) *A Nightmare on Elm Street (1984) vs A Nightmare on Elm Street (2010) *Alien (1979) vs Aliens (1986) *Pet Sematary (1989) vs Pet Sematary (2019) *It (1990) vs the It Duology (2017, 2019)

[@stephenvelez9710]

I'd be very curious to hear your thoughts on Rob’s brilliant and truly auteur take on Halloween 2, a movie I adore. Rob’s vision is... freer. I love the OG, of course, and I enjoy Rob’s remake, minus the unforgivable rape scene. Often overlooked in the OG, Laurie and Annie share a joint while driving to their babysitting gigs! Love it❤️

[@dino91001]

I loved rob zombies Halloween but I absolutely hated that scout girl who played Laurie. She was annoying af

[@Gbomb82]

Quality comparison and happy you preferred the original! I could never bring myself to watch the directors cut of Zombie's, I heard about the extra parts and I don't need to experience that grossness. My overall issue with Zombie's (besides the many flaws) is and always will be you don't humanize Michael, he's scary because he has no motive, no reason, he's just a force of nature that personifies pure evil. Another great video, really happy I found your channel this spooky season!

[@HauntedHippie]

Aww yay!! Welcome! Glad you made it!

[@Gbomb82]

@@HauntedHippie thanks for having! It’s super welcome to get different perspectives on horror as when you look around KZbin it’s dominated by very similar demographics and stale. I applaud you are going into so many generations and decades of horror, so you’ve got a new fan. Enjoy Poland!

[@TheNameisPlissken1981]

Having grown up watching and loving John Carpenter movies, I can tell you first hand that he was a director whose films became more popular long after their original release (Halloween being the exception). Also, he is a director who made his best films along side DP Dean Cundey. Their partnership worked out better for Dean than John. Dean went off to work with the likes of Steven Spielberg while the films John made after their break up were nothing compared to the ones they made together!! John had a look and style with Dean that he was never able to achieve with other cinematographers. The same goes for producers. John's work with Debra Hill resulted in far better films than the ones he made with Sandy King. Truth is, they had a tight, talented team back in the day that really complimented each other. John, Debra and Dean did their best work when they were together. I only wish they did more of it.

[@AGETheGawdYT]

Agree with Carpenter. Michaels scarier when he’s just a force.

[@davidcottone2700]

There is no comparison 78 is the best

[@paulb1311]

Both RZ Halloween movies are just grim to watch, his original is marginally better if you can get through the first act with the horrendous dialogue. Obviously no contest though - Halloween 78 is a million miles better!

[@cinematicaddict10]

I usually don't comment alot on videos but just wanted to say since finding your channel I've really enjoyed watching your videos and seeing what your thoughts and opinions might be even if they differ from mine cause everyone is entitled to like and dislike what they want and it seems alot of people have forgotten that

[@hippiestfu]

there is a four hour insightful documentary for rob zombie’s halloween no documentary like it! there is also a lost four hour documentary of rob zombie’s h2

[@chrislawson1988]

That's what I was thinking when reading about Halloween kills and they said after he's unmasked he stands fuming on the porch looking at Karen but I'm like he's emotionless right so how do we know he's fuming. Are we just assuming cause of the situation he's fuming lol. I'd like to see his blank face more . That'd be challenging I'd think to be killing or stalking or something but without any facial expressions cause he's supposed to blank . or that's what were told . course he surprises Loomis here and there too so he's as close to a expert we got but probably no one can be a expert on Michael lol.

[@123rockfan]

Donald Pleasance is great as Loomis, but I think Malcom McDowell is just as great too. Only thing I liked in the 2007 remake lol

[@royalhorror]

Loved this comparison since RZ Halloween had some good scenes and g*ore. However I completely agree with you when it comes to the length . They drowned so much Michaels back story to the point when it was extremely cliche . We already have LeatherFace as a giant k*iller beast . We didn’t need Michael LMAOO , the remake Laurie is so annoying and UNREAL like ??? . Speaking of , I can’t wait to watch Texas 74 vs Texas 03

[@2223332212]

Really cool video! Horror movies are awesome! The original Halloween film is one of my favorite horror movies.

[@jfrsnjhnsn]

I definitely agree that people should not watch the Director's cut of Rob Zombie's first Halloween movie. The theatrical cut is way better. For his H2, on the other hand, the director's cut is better.

[@MsBluheart]

New subscriber here. I really enjoy your presentation and, in the case of this topic, so completely agree on pretty much all points.

[@kirkhensley5870]

Judging by the guitar neck in the background, once you make your own horror movie, will you John Carpenter that thing? Considering that he wrote his own music scores, I was wondering. A Fender Squire? Not bad. Fender bridges suck sometimes, though. Know any Joe Jackson or AC/DC?

[@jasonvoorhees310]

Great video as always.👍Oh boy! Ok so RZ is a great director. Love his camera work, but his writing is horrendous. Especially for Halloween. It works with devils rejects. Not for Halloween. I don't wanna know why Michael kills. I don't wanna know his home life. Michael works best as an ambiguous motiveless killer. Evil in the "Shape" of a human. Rob took away that mystique. If your going to give info on Michael it needs to be as little as possible. So we as the audience still ask that question. Only thing I wanna know about Michael is his damage accumulated and why it has no effect on him. But again, as little as possible. His Halloween film would have been better had someone else wrote it. Its doesn't feel like an extension to 78, which is the problem with 7 of the 13 films in the franchise(H4 to RZ Halloweens) These films have zero continuity and feel like slasher films not Halloween films. To give you some context im a Halloween purist and like only these 6 films in the franchise. To me these all feel like an extension to the first, atmosphere, Michael, lighting, ect. Halloween 78 Halloween 81 Season of the Witch Halloween 18 Halloween kills Halloween ends(hopefully I like this one)etc. Sorry for the novel.✌

[@percival1805]

Kylie, when did you start playing the Squier? Rock on!

[@brandondvorak4301]

I prefer the 70s one and I feel RZ theatrical is better than unratted version but the 70s one is way better imo

[@chrislawson1988]

Both ideas are really cool lol

[@SPBASS]

Has Rob Zombie ever made a movie where everyone isn't repulsive? Also I haven't heard you mention the Cube trilogy... So I'll just put that there.

[@ArtofLunatik]

9:05 thats funny because I also own the DVD unrated director's cut, and I also dont ever watch that shit. -_-

[@lex_rodriguez]

There's no meaningful comparison here. Halloween 1978 is a classic and outshines the remake in almost every way. I enjoy the Theatrical Cut of the remake for what it is, but Halloween was never meant to be a slasher franchise like Friday the 13th - that's why every attempt to expand on it has failed.