Halo 2 & Metal Gear Solid 2 - Two Identical Masterpieces

Halo 2 and Metal Gear Solid 2 are my 2 favourite games of all time, but over the years as I've replayed them over and over again, I've come to realise the two actually share a lot of similarities.
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0:00 - Intro
1:48 - Halo 2 Vs. Metal Gear Solid 2 - Two Identical Masterpieces
26:31 - Outro
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[@HiddenXperia]

April 30th... The perfect day to compare what I consider to be the 2 best video game stories of all time! In the next branch out video, we'll be diving into why Metal Gear Rising Revengeance deserves to be ICONIC :D

[@343flyingbulb4]

Standing here, I realize You are just right

[@baneberardi9419]

Really don't want to review the recent Halo episode huh? 🤣🤣 i get it. How many time is MC going to hold the artifact and scream

[@jessejive117]

Halo is way more critical of Islam overall than just faith that’s radical… I don’t know why you always refuse to acknowledge this.

[@doublee7110]

@@jessejive117 nah

[@ArgentWolf95]

@@jessejive117 at first it was, but it became about faith in general. as it can apply to any religion. MGS 2 is a more direct criticism of how Society was becoming, and has become by now. Social media is exactly that the clips from MGS 2 talk about. ( i'm not a leftist either, and very critical of Islam and the far left myself)

[@Tentaclear1]

While I love the Banished, nothing will ever be better than the OG Covenant and the themes it makes you think about. In this house we LOVE Arby

[@michaelkean5969]

the banished are a concept that i would love to see explored more but sadly their reasoning to exist doesn't really make sense anymore considering their whole shtick was to defy the covenant which doesn't exist anymore so in infinite they just turned into the covenant 2.0 infinite really needs to flesh out the banished some more or we need prequel Halo games which connect the dots between the games alot better. per example an Arbiter/Thel Vadaam game which focuses on covenant vs Banished and goes more into Atriox and Escharum's backstories than just a halo wars 2 cutscene. just imagine if you played as Thel Vadaam pre-Arbiter and he and Tartarus are hunting down the banished long before the events of Halo 1.

[@rasplez9889]

Post-Halo 2 feels like a strange era for halo, which is even stranger considering that it's only the second game. The covenant war will always be the definitive halo theme.

[@Julianrocker200]

This right here

[@sierra121cyan]

Seriously! To me, the Banished just kinda seem like 'the bad guys' (although I do know the lore). I mean, they're literally red and black colored, two colors commonly used to show 'the bad guys'! The Covenant was amazing as it was an entire religion that was creepy and crackpot conspiracy-like and mysterious. Still love the Banished though, they're very intimidating.

[@DankMemer42013]

@@sierra121cyan well the banished aren’t really religious. They have monkey brains…. They think monkey and also think domination not religion.

[@JoeFilms5420]

Raiden was standing here and he realized Arbiter is just like him, trying to make history.

[@331coolguy]

But who's to judge the right from wrong?

[@shaheer1172]

@@331coolguy when their guard was down and they both agreed

[@magnuswannabe4374]

@@shaheer1172 That violence breeds violence.

[@SockEater4293]

The only thing I know for real

[@stealthynaxo]

@@magnuswannabe4374 Whoa whoa whoa! Are you suggesting that in the end, it has to be this way?

[@retrogrey10]

I'm loving the recent surge of metal gear popularity with everyone paying attention to revengeance, this video's timing couldn't be better

[@CharliReef]

The metal gear solid 2 music with the scarab opening it's face towards the beginning of the video was actually pretty frickin' sick

[@HiddenXperia]

Haha thanks, I actually played with that one clip quite a lot to get it to sync up properly :)

[@avidmcplayer4942]

MGS2's final codec scene gives me chills every time I watch it considering our social and political landscape today. It's eerie how the writers predicted our current environment 2 decades ago...

[@soul.rebel1986]

Soft disclosure.

[@jessecommins4499]

I don’t know if there is a series as replayable as these, where the main story/ campaign can be played over and over without unique ending etc. I don’t think I will ever forget the first time attempting to play mgs2 and figuring out how to switch my tv to AV by the buttons on the tv.

[@fireclaw9602]

When Xperia mentioned MGRR I said to myself in Raidens voice. "The memes!".

[@HiddenXperia]

THE MEMES, JACK.

[@fireclaw9602]

@@HiddenXperia As a wise man once said, they are the DNA of the soul.

[@JayPlusForerunner]

@@fireclaw9602 How about full of shit, is that a meme?

[@blackout1518]

Just played through the entire metal gear franchise for the first time. Can’t put into words how much this series deserves more love and appreciation

[@LtLysander]

This is perfect. For whatever reason I’ve been binging MGS content, playing through MGS:V for the first time as I’m typing this.

[@crabbuckets7506]

Man what a good game. The story can be a little lacklustre at times but the gameplay is sooooo good! Have fun 👍

[@angryretailbanker5103]

9:01 It should be pointed out the Solid Snake was also FOXHOUND. He's a rookie in Metal Gear trying to save the veteran member Gray Fox, and he's experienced (and I think even retired) in Metal Gear 2: Solid Snake.

[@kurohaizaki8951]

Don’t forget: Both Arby and Raiden are badass silver bois wielding iconic swords that are respected by the Main protagonists.

[@Butter_Warrior99]

Raiden: Hello John 117. Master Chief: Hello Jack. (both relate to being child soldiers.)

[@michaelkean5969]

except Chief would just be like: meh what are my orders then you've got TV jake 404 whose like: WAAAA WAAAA MOMMEY HALSEY STOLE ME FROM MA REAL MOMMY WAAAA WAAA (throws childish tantrum)

[@Butter_Warrior99]

@@michaelkean5969, Both Raiden and Chief would later continue on to their respective duties. Raiden goes off to fight his own wars, while Chief fights for humanity.

[@exiversal5095]

Your content never ceases to entertain me. Keep up the good work, and I hope to see some more halo, cod, and any other content soon!

[@HiddenXperia]

❤️❤️❤️

[@Loansome_]

I see a lot of similarities between these two games and my personal favorite, Kingdom Hearts 2. Needless to say, this was a fantastic era for video game sequels.

[@bobbob-cd9yl]

I don't have experience with MGS2 however to speak on why H2 was I C O N I C, just did what a sequel should always do, halo CE was never meant to lead into a franchise of future games but H2 amazingly built what we really now see as the halo universe. Not only was the narrative amazing especially with cool shit like being able to hear mendicant bias speaking backwards during a song, but it was bold and ambitious. Now Halo 2 for many was also a cultural pillar of the 2000's not only did the game ooz what the 2000's were about with it's more metal soundtrack and cheif just being a badass. But it's MP was a staple for people's childhoods having splitscreen FFA's with their freinds overnight.

[@catdawg5291]

Then we got the Master Piece of Halo 3

[@michaelkean5969]

@@catdawg5291 Halo 3 was not really the masterpiece you think it was mate. Halo 3 undid and outright abandoned all the cool shit that Halo 2 set up. Halo 3 sacrificed deep and layered storytelling for big grandiose Epic set pieces. it essentially went in the same direction as Game of thrones did while halo 3 was a great installment it marked the decline of the franchise.

[@barkley8285]

thats what all true sequels do, they turn a standalone movie into a limitless franchise that could go anywhere. Both empire strikes back and halo 2 did this really well.

[@Serpentris]

Personally I've never played a Metal Gear Solid game in my life, but after this video I might have to.

[@alphamonrx]

i played both halo2 and MGS when i was around 5, i didnt understand either of their stories but still liked playing them. now as an adult i go back and pick up on all the themes of the story and fall in love with them even more

[@tyriqcanfield8911]

Loving these branch out videos, die hard Halo fan for sure, for better or worse, never played a mgs game but hearing these references and soon to be full on videos I really wanna try them out

[@sporemariomaster]

I know you're branching out because of the failures of Halo infinite but honestly I wish you had done this sooner. I love being introduced to new games and stories. Keep up the amazing content that you've been making for years and I'm so excited to see where you go from here.

[@sasaider3711]

Well, April 30th

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Those streamers who were surprised at being the Arbiter all of a sudden sure are a treat... can't believe some people aren't actually spoiled by this before playing the game nowadays. I'm glad.

[@isack_4239]

I started going through the MGS series in chronological order. Just got through 3 and I’m so hyped to go through the rest of the series!

[@nathangothan601]

I can’t tell you how happy I am to see MGS content on this channel. Please cover more of it!!! Such a deep and cryptic lore.

[@somecrap7490]

I am really happy that this video includes halo 2 and the arbiter, I missed talking about them

[@gearsofwarpwnr]

It really is fascinating just how relevant the plotlines are from both games even moreso today than ever, both hold a dear place in my heart

[@ZakRas]

You know what I love, the title sequence (1:03 - 1:48) given your choice of clips and the ratio you show the 2 protagonists from both franchises, I could tell exactly what you'd be touching on with comparing Raiden & Arbiter directly and how they share simliar circumstances in their franchises. Also Yell Dead Cell over Halo 2 footage makes me nostalgic for the days where I didn't know how people acquired video files or that they were put into a video editor and exported as a new video file - some real 2005/6 vibes. 17:47 How it always goes. 27:01 It already is - and not because of the unexpected resurgence it got over the last few months, ever since 2013... not that I'm as hype for that as I was this.

[@EnzoAlder]

Personally I think it’s very daring that you’re branching out the content topic of your channel. Since it’s inception this channel has focused on halo, so changing that aspect after so many years probably wont be like snapping a finger. But I think this is a great decision, at least for the time being while Halo GAMES continues to lack content. As a hurt Halo fanboy and content creator myself, this is a very admirable move for you to make for you channel. I’ll be here to watch and support every video! Just like I have for years :)

[@bobbob-cd9yl]

Craziest thing with H2 was it was made in roughly over a year, the engine was shit everything was shit and all the stress led to so many leaving bungie but damn, pressure sometimes creates diamonds

[@michaelkean5969]

it goes to show that you really sometimes have to suffer in order to create something truly great. i think that is the reason why so many games are lackluster nowadays because they get it too easy right up till they have to rush to meet the deadline.

[@generalcjg]

Awesome video, and I am indeed very excited with the near future Metal Gear Rising video you got cooking up HiddenXperia.

[@thecoolmalaka6327]

I loved this! Unfortunately, I couldn't get into the gameplay of the earlier metal gears, but metal gear 4 was one of my favorite games of all time. However, I loved all of the stories in metal gear solid despite me being terrible at the gameplay. I loved this video because both of these games are on of my favorite stories of all time and I loved this comparison!! Keep it up man!

[@LieutenantFoxtrot]

Another thing that's similar between Arbiter and Raiden: They both become absolute giga chads in the next few games they star in

[@deerecoyote2040]

I have never played MGS, but I love Halo 2 and this video has convinced me to try.

[@HiddenXperia]

Ayyyy nice, enjoy!

[@deerecoyote2040]

@@HiddenXperia Thanks sir :)

[@deerecoyote2040]

@Upcycle Shoes Definitely

[@michaelandreipalon359]

Well, hope you got a PS3 for the main trilogy, 4, Peace Walker, and the two original games, and a PC or PS4 for Rising: Revengeance and V: Ground Zeroes and The Phantom Pain.

[@ambidex5383]

@@michaelandreipalon359 all but the first MGS and MGS4 are playable with backwards compatibility on Xbox platform. MGS 4 playable via PSNow or whatever it's called now on PS4 or 5.

[@juanpi_omg]

Finally, I've been waiting for this video for a long time!!!

[@lokimanezero]

Another pretty similar aspect is that they both thought the only thing they knew for real was Blood...shed!

[@nicholaslynch5809]

Metal gear solid 2 and halo 3 are my 2 all time favourite games so seeing this really does bring a smile to my face

[@tomwylie9298]

Calling Raiden Foxhound to relate to Arbiter as part of the Covenant is a stretch. He was prepared after Foxhound was disbanded and only fooled into thinking he was part of the elite unit to further replicate the Shadow Moses incident.

[@noxiousnight2142]

Great video dude! I can't wait for the next one.

[@garretttekampe9564]

Completely agree. I grew up with Halo, I think I was the same age as Xperia when I first played it, but when I was a teen I played mgs2 unsuspecting what it was like and thinking it might be a good starting point for the franchise and I was blown away and immediately addicted to the story and characters for the future games to see where it went. I never got closure by playing the next in canon after mgs2.

[@GammaKat123]

Some of the highest quality content out there keep it up

[@cone786]

Glad to see you branching out. I've never played the mgs games but I'll support the content regardless since the passion behind your videos is still there

[@I0NE007]

Hearing the Next video is going to be about MGR is a bit wild, since the other day was me talking with someone about my (Admittedly bonkers) 105+ page thesis on the possible hidden narrative(s) present in the game. Hopefully one day I'll actually be able to find the time to narrate/stream a discussion on it but it's more likely that someone else will have to do it.

[@jman2001jt]

It’s funny I’d argue that MGS4 is more of the Halo 3 analog than MGS3 is, mainly in that both are about concluding their respective sagas and having both protagonists from the second games teaming up to take down the big bad. Also both end with a fake-out death of the main protag and have a late-game chapter where you return to the setting of the first game.

[@eternal_3735]

I watch this channel for Luc, not Halo. You’re such an amazing creator. I’m loving the branching out content. Keep it up👏🏼.

[@EmmLoaf]

Great video! Now all we need is an Arbiter action game in the style of Revengeance.

[@ryanaymar9124]

I do kinda love that both game franchises used “this is the way the world ends” from TD Elliot

[@TalleyBellum]

Kinda fitting you dropped this today

[@sniperkelv]

this is one of the best videos ever mate. thank you

[@drewmike681]

Two of the best. MGS 2, is better IMO, bc of how it aligns with society today. Halo 2 is an unfinished masterpiece. Glad to see you branching out.

[@whiteknight3929]

I didn't realize MGS2 was so highly thought of, I played it when it released amid all the backlash over Raiden being in it. That said I loved it and played through it many times, it had insanely good replayability and now I'm wanting to play it again!

[@jango7889]

I thought the same thing for Halo 2, I remember people hating on Arbie's story like crazy back in the day.

[@Zappy_C]

April 30th also happens to be my birthday! Thanks for the video, Hidden!

[@jeffandmatthardyrule]

Good video, man. Nice to see you branching out and making the things you want to.

[@SweetStaticBun]

I'm so glad you put milos gameplay experience here. That was the best part of my summer

[@Knightmare2018]

The fact that these games are such masterpieces makes you think that their story type should be a model for new games

[@pixelatedpigeon4617]

Excellent stuff, really enjoying you branching out into other franchises.

[@HeWhoComments]

That “This is the way the world ends” quote at the end was awesome.

[@forresthunter1483]

Just found your channel. Keep up the great work!

[@damndanielcruz6754]

Okay ngl after watching this I just wanna hear you talk about every metal gear solid game. I loved this video keep it up 💚

[@perkyrodgers]

I genuinely get happy when I see a new hiddenxperia upload Idec what the video is about😹

[@hungrythunderx7606]

This video is so beautiful, I wonder how he makes such cinematic and emotional videos

[@joshberry2991]

I watched all those Halo 2 playthroughs and they are amazing, love the choices for the Arbiter surprise reactions

[@TylerTedClubberLang]

Halo 2 is the greatest campaign of all time. The story and music makes it feel like a movie. It out sold every movie that year.

[@stelpher]

HiddenXperia "...widely regarded as the peaks of their respective franchises." Me, looking at my copy of MGS3: "Careful, them's fighting words."

[@Heinrick192]

Fantastic video! I grew up with these games as well, and they've only become more important to me as I've gotten older. I think you'd love NieR Automata as well, it deals with a lot of the same themes, with a tinge of existential dread.

[@underwrapserrors3457]

Been waiting for this!

[@TheInfiniteNine]

Yes! Finally the mgs content we've been waiting for!

[@ZeroDiode]

Absolutely loved this video :)

[@_dpmusic1]

Awesome video man!

[@CoraValentine1999]

Glad my favorite Halo KZbinr made a video on this, because the first time I played MGS2 I noticed there were some very strong similarities

[@peshkybee7721]

Dude I so wanna see a Halo 3/MGS4 (finale for both franchises main story) video in this style! This video was so much fun :3

[@Snakeskin94]

This is one of those videos i could have never imagined i needed, but am so glad i have it. These are two of the games that defined my child hood- and their respective prior titles. Only way this would have been more perfect was if you somehow found a way to throw in Kingdom Hearts and Ape Escape lmao

[@Thorax2552]

Glad to see DB Geek shown on here, it was great watching him go through Halo was so fun

[@Landsharkhobo]

I glad to see this content work out for you, mgs stuff can be pretty hard to market as the size of the fanbase is kinda small and usually very critical. But I'm a sucker for anyone who will even mention mgs2 in a good light and enjoyed the comparison to halo 2. Great stuff keep it up!

[@indieartistcharles6465]

I love how when Milo spawned in, the first he did was try to kill JC LMAO

[@eddieford9373]

Just came back to the channel to see what your thoughts on the Halo TV show were and found this and the CoD zombies video. And I really like these video game analysis style videos. They're really good and I hope to see more.

[@jimmyjazz4605]

Hey man! What a great video as always. I'd like you to do a "what if" video about Tartarus joining with the arbiter at the end of Halo 2? Instead of him not believing what Spark was saying. 😎

[@ORIGINALFBI]

I'd say MGS3 is the peak for Metal Gear but I still love 2. That ending to MGS2....that's spookily correct. That's legit how the world is today.

[@tylerjohnson4709]

I don’t know if it’s nostalgia speaking or they just don’t make games like this anymore but both of these games will forever be my favorites

[@ambidex5383]

It's not just nostalgia, they haven't made games of this caliber for some time.

[@Jormyyy]

Since we are comparing games to Halo, does anyone else notice the similarities of the first three Halo games to the first three Gears of War games? The first game in both series were revolutionary for the gaming industry due to their mechanics, story telling etc. The second game improving upon what was built in the first and vastly expanding on the world and story. And then the third and "final" installment improving and perfecting their respective gameplay formula and having a bittersweet story ending.

[@Ben_of_Langley]

So I haven't played metal gear solid any of them but I have played all the halo games (expect 5 & Halo wars 2) and I will admit as much as I loved halo it was the game that me and what would become my closest friend and now family played together on the xbox and bonded over so I have many fond memories of halo but it was halo two that I can safely say is my favourite the story of it and like you said the unfamiliar looping with the familiar and I absolutely loved playing as a elite his missions are some of my favourite in halo 2 which actually thinking about it I might play that again today. Cheers for the upload really enjoyed this video

[@sigurdjuul6006]

“You know what day it is today?” “April 30th?” You’re a master mind Luke

[@mysteriousstranger5873]

Petition to have 343 make a metal gear rising style spinoff with the arbiter

[@getnaenaed99]

I just realized that this was released on April 30th, bravo HiddenX!

[@matiseonfusion5276]

Great, now make a 3 hour video documentary on Metal Gear Solid 4

[@oneperson7795]

HiddenXperia video on MGRR? Humanity's about to peak in iconicness

[@carpangler6172]

Wonderful video bro

[@ArgentWolf95]

You chose this day deliberately or it was luck mate. Props up to you! For the same reason and more, both are my favorite games, and both Arbiter and Raiden are the only true equals to Chief and Solid Snake (and Big boss, although he's the most complex Snake). Also fantastic use of the music. MGS 2 and Bungie Halo trilogy (Infinite did a fine job recreating some and doing good new ones, don't get me wrong!) have also never been beaten in their music either. I really miss the MGS 2 motif. I began with Metal Gear before Halo, so I played MGS 2 first, then Halo, and then both back and forth again, as I grew in maturity, both their stories hit me as profound unlike any other. They are two inspirations of the very beliefs I have today, and I lean very much to Raiden and Arbiter's sides respectively. These two games defined a lot of my beliefs and inspired me growing up. Arbiter taught me to be strong in my convictions, Raiden's Journey taught me to question things, and that freedom along with other things is precious and should be defended. That final Codec call has never been more relevant today. The issues the S3 plan, and the S3 plan itself, have become reality in the evolution of the internet. Except it's not the la-li-lu-le-lo doing the control of information. It's corporations and governments, and certain opposing ideologies. Just as the Codec call said would happen. and the elites, governments and Corporations decided to become the S3 (we even have AI algorithms censoring people on social media, how scarily close is that!?) . Especially in the last 2 years. (Last 10 steadily was pushing towards it). Kojima probably read 1984 before writing MGS 2, He certainly references it in later games. The Arbiter's journey was relatable on a much more personal level with my own personal belief, how I started from one side of a belief system, went to the other side, and then stood on my own two feet in between both. It wasn't a 1 to 1 of course, i'm hardly a Sangheili Commander after all. Or was a religious fanatic. My political beliefs just started on left, went right, now i'm a mix of the two and, as Snake said: "Find something to believe in, and find it for yourself. When you do, pass it on to the future." I see Solidus as one of the best antagonists, because he represents good things, but also became a monster because of the Patriots, but he became a monster that could have been redeemed if he chose another way. Ah, I miss when such storytelling in games was as strong as that. TL:DR: MGS 2 and Halo 2 were deeply personal to me and still are.

[@JohnPeacekeeper]

At least we do finally know about what Arbiter's doing during the Created Conflict now, new book coming out, and hoping it leads to Arbiter heading to Zeta Halo too

[@orioncurry2318]

Love your content

[@Luke_SkyWalker2187]

Welcome back brother!

[@caseyhall2320]

I didn't think it'd happen, but you've convinced me to start the Metal Gear series, lol. You hit me with my weakpoint, Arby 😂

[@thelapisking1663]

I find it interesting how in today's age Raiden has become more recognizable than Snake. His meme has survived while Snakes hasn't you could say;)

[@evanfeist2162]

YES THIS IS THE CONTENT WE NEED

[@whalehands]

When I was a kid playing metal gear solid 2, I didn't think of how much of a classic it would become. It was just a really good game to play. Halo 2 was a classic before it was even thought of

[@crabbuckets7506]

Not even a minute in and I can say that Metal Gear 2 is by far the better game story wise. The last chapters just leaves you with so much dread and suspense you are on the edge of your seat.

[@MelonGearSolid]

It's also scary as fuck how accurate it becomes in regards to the control of information in a digital age 😬😬😬

[@HiddenXperia]

Ok I actually changed the title from ‘Vs.’ To ‘&’ because this wasn’t meant to be a ‘which is better’ video :P If I had to pick which was better I honestly don’t know which one I’d go for, they’re both absolute masterpieces

[@michaelkean5969]

Halo 2's Arse collapses right at the end with that out of nowhere and jarring Cliffhanger. apart from that it's easily the best written in the series.

[@crabbuckets7506]

@@HiddenXperia haha that's fair enough. I couldn't help but compare them. Although I'd say gameplay wise Halo 2 would win hands down. Each game has their merits and both brilliant. Thanks for the awesome content 👏

[@crabbuckets7506]

@@MelonGearSolid damn right. It blew my tiny brain up as I was in hight school at the time. Talk about existential dread 🤣✌

[@Le-cp9tr]

Raiden and Theo both ended up as the best swordsmen or their franchises. Food for thought

[@Azrael_Equinox]

Raiden is a great character through the line of "your memes end here" alone.

[@aooaooapoooopa]

This is some masterful tie in man. I didn’t even realize the parallels these characters shared.

[@labaker23]

Enjoying the branch out so far, liking the new style

[@driffter-mw4mx]

Talking about halo and mgs in the same video, dream come true

[@Knightmare2018]

"We are the lizard man!" Exactly Milo.