Halo 3 PC Tech Review: The Master Chief Collection's Best Port Yet?

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4 жыл бұрын

It's been a mixed bag with Halo: The Master Chief Collection but the quality has been rising for the most part from release to release. The latest offering - Halo 3 - absolutely screams on modern PC hardware, and fixes many of the issues we saw in prior TMCC offerings. Here's Alex with the full low-down.
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@PixelShade
@PixelShade 4 жыл бұрын
I hope they continue to fix the MCC. Halo CE's original graphics mode needs some extra love. Shader effects, animation interpolation, the fog/sky-issue. Anyway, I am so happy that these games are so playable at mediocre hardware. It's a treasure trove for budget PC gamers.
@IINareik
@IINareik 4 жыл бұрын
thats more a problem with the gearbox port they used instead of the bungie xbox version
@amartinez97
@amartinez97 4 жыл бұрын
@@IINareik Moders already fixed most of the graphical issues of Geabox's port there is no reason 343 cant.
@Enderblaze14
@Enderblaze14 4 жыл бұрын
an interesting quirk i noticed with Halo CE is that the cutscenes have a dithering effect for some reason
@ionseven
@ionseven 4 жыл бұрын
Why would they when everyone keeps handing companies money to rebuy our old shoes with new laces? Everyone is so starved for quality we are praising these bare, mod-like upgraded remasters instead of high budget remakes. And I know everyone here would jump on a top quality remake, which could include the MCC (or 1 or 2 of these ancient games) as a bonus.
@dr._breens_beard
@dr._breens_beard 4 жыл бұрын
I think after the rest of mcc gets released on pc they will revist the titles to polish them all up quite a bit. Especially with the series x coming soon theres prolly a LOT they can do going forward. CE needs A LOT of work to return it to og xbox glory, but i have faith they will restore it eventually.
@trblemayker5157
@trblemayker5157 4 жыл бұрын
I'm impressed by the visuals considering this was released in 2007. I get that many folks wanted the same treatment like Halo 2 Anniversary but Halo 3's visuals have aged quite nicely(barring some human character models) and makes us appreciate the amount of effort Bungie put into the game.
@SabatSch95
@SabatSch95 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly have no issues with the game as is, and don't "need" remade graphics in the style of H2:A.... but I never got this "H3 has aged nicely" argument. To be completely honest, I think H3 looked dated already a year after release. It really just looked like an OG Xbox game ported to the 360, which is basically exactly what it was. Some of the backdrops were really nice, especially during cutscenes, but that's about it. Again, I'm not complaining, I'm just making an observation. You gotta remember, this was a year after Gears 1 which looked a lot better, and a year before Gears 2 which was also a much bigger jump. When you look at games from the same time period (roughly speaking) like AC1, COD4, Batman Arkham Asylum, Gears 1 & 2, etc and all of those games look SO much better and have aged really well (Arkham Asylum still looks great to this day, Gears 2 with the 4k patch looks awesome too). Even with the 4k patch, Halo 3 still looks really old. I really do believe that graphics was kind of an after thought with H3. I mean, when you look at Halo 4, that game (running on the same hardware) still looks absolutely stunning.. it looked so good it may even pass as a current gen game.
@BalkanGames
@BalkanGames 4 жыл бұрын
MG Yeah, Halo 4 is kind of a miracle in terms of graphics.
@trblemayker5157
@trblemayker5157 4 жыл бұрын
@@SabatSch95 To explain "aged nicely", it means the art style and lighting have held up compared to something like Halo 2. I don't see where you're saying it's dated unless you think it looks like a carbon copy of og Halo 2. Also Halo 4's art style looks meh to me since the cutscenes aren't even in-engine.
@SabatSch95
@SabatSch95 4 жыл бұрын
@@trblemayker5157 Dude, Halo 3's cutscenes aren't in engine either (meaning, they're pre-rendered, just like H4). I do think 343 lost track with the art design with H5, but I think H4 looked absolutely beautiful, and I honestly much preferred the "modern", more high tech looking Forerunner design over the old H1-3 designs. But I wasn't really talking about the art style... I'm talking about the graphics on a technical level. It just doesn't look that good. The character models look like they were ported over from the OG Xbox days, the weapon models look extremely basic and not with much detail, the environments often look stale, except for some vegetation bits perhaps. Even the lighting isn't anything special... sure, there are some bits during the first mission that look pretty good, but again, other games from the same era just look so much better in practically every way.
@8Paul7
@8Paul7 4 жыл бұрын
Halo 3 came out same year as Crysis. Crysis looks several generations newer.
@demirkafasutlac2343
@demirkafasutlac2343 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it looks like the first halo 3 trailer they released where MC is looking over the ark. It looks so good, I'm extremely impressed. I remember going to block buster to rent this game, couldn't afford to buy it but renting it was easy. I miss blockbuster.
@rpl1318
@rpl1318 4 жыл бұрын
that's a memory shared I guess. I rented Halo 3 as well and it was the trailer that got me hyped for it (after having played the first two) will have to reserve some time to give it a proper run once again, now looking like the trailer 10 bungie employed hammered out for E3 :D
@W0lfenstrike
@W0lfenstrike 4 жыл бұрын
I actually bought it used from a Blockbuster back then :)
@arootube
@arootube 4 жыл бұрын
I was renting games from a store as recently as 2016, but then Hastings went bankrupt too. Now Redbox gave up on games and Gamefly is just... not efficient.
@EcchiRevenge
@EcchiRevenge 4 жыл бұрын
T-bagging at half the framerate -> literally unplayable.
@gamzillio
@gamzillio 4 жыл бұрын
Curious how they'll handle Halo 4 with it's updated engine.
@bowrey118
@bowrey118 4 жыл бұрын
Considering it's a branch of the Reach era engine, and Halo 2 Anniversary Multiplayer uses it...hopefully it will be improved.
@SabatSch95
@SabatSch95 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah, I'm honestly most excited for what they'll do with H4 although part of me fears they won't give it that much love & attention b/c lots of Halo "fans" regard the game pretty lowly. I just hope they bring back all the armor customization, b/c what we have now on consoles is just weak. The original customization on the 360 was freaking awesome, and pretty much on Reach's level in terms of options. My Spartan 4 looked damn good if I do say so myself. Other than that, I don't really have that many requests, except for some better textures here & there, but honestly, even after 8 years, Halo 4 still looks absolutely incredible. I even think it looks better than H5.
@Arcona
@Arcona 4 жыл бұрын
Well it runs native 4k 60 on Xbox One X. And that's only using an RX580 and those little baby Jaguar cpu cores. So it should be fine.
@user-ny1jn1uu7y
@user-ny1jn1uu7y 4 жыл бұрын
MCC is finished when ODST drops for me. Couldn't care any less about Halo 4
@RizkiS
@RizkiS 4 жыл бұрын
@@user-ny1jn1uu7y Halo 4 has the best campaign story and the story ages gracefully tho
@silent_blues
@silent_blues 4 жыл бұрын
The FOV was ridiculous on 360, even at the time, when I was 17 and didn’t even have a clue what FOV was, I still thought it felt wrong. Still looks great though.
@NoahThomas29
@NoahThomas29 4 жыл бұрын
same, me and my brothers have been complaining about halo 3's FOV since the beginning of time. its soooooo narrow.
@mrpiratefox4497
@mrpiratefox4497 4 жыл бұрын
Which is supposed to be the default Halo FOV??
@damsen978
@damsen978 3 жыл бұрын
I read that the reason for the FOV being so low back then was because people spent most of their time on their couch, since the x360 was a console for TVs, it made sense to zoom-in so the players will see everything big, clearer and more readable, because our TVs are usually far away compared to PC monitors.
@TheFly212
@TheFly212 4 жыл бұрын
3 is probably the best but I'll always have a soft spot for CE. It's timeless.
@MrDarkjeda
@MrDarkjeda 4 жыл бұрын
The best, maybe, but no the perfect one, Halo 3 has a lot of network issues in Multiplayer, the hitreg is bad
@Edmundostudios
@Edmundostudios 4 жыл бұрын
First half of CE is great the other half no so. Regardless it still holds up well for its age.
@NonsensicalSpudz
@NonsensicalSpudz 4 жыл бұрын
@@MrDarkjeda so does halo 2 and ce especially 2, when halo 2 dropped with mcc on pc the hitreg was damn bad. halo 3 hitreg I've found atleast feels normal compared to how halo 2 was
@sEaNoYeAh
@sEaNoYeAh 4 жыл бұрын
The kind of awesome thing about Halo is none of them are perfect. The series legitimately has so much potential. CE wasn't fully formed, H2 was unfinished, H3 is slower and less sharp feeling than H2 due to slower movement speed, all weapons being projectile etc. ODST has little wrong with it, but it's nowhere near as feature rich as the others. Reach made the mistake of using the same levels for campaign, firefight and multiplayer, bloom on weapons is controversial, the armour abilities aren't always well balanced for multiplayer. H4 borrowed too heavily from CoD, it had too few good 4v4 levels, some weapon balance issues, the Didact story arc is too bloated with expanded universe content (though the Cortana rampancy arc is the best written story in the whole Halo universe, and is inspired by the director's mother being diagnosed with dementia). H5 abandoned everything good about H4's storytelling, and the Spartan abilities changed the nature of the game so much without accounting for them in its multiplayer level design. Warzone was a good concept poorly executed. These are obviously very vague, very few bullet points, but I don't think it's controversial to say every single Halo could have been done better, and that's a good sign for the potential of the series.
@arjungandhi1242
@arjungandhi1242 4 жыл бұрын
CE is my favourite for purely subjective reasons. I still feel something special when I boot up the campaign every few years or so
@Darkhalo314
@Darkhalo314 4 жыл бұрын
Halo 3 is such an amazing work of art. I'm amazed how Bungie got this beautiful game to run on a Xbox 360. Bungie did wonders and this game is such a masterpiece
@pleasuretokill
@pleasuretokill 4 жыл бұрын
I remember bringing H3 back home the night of it's release on the 360, like "Hell yeah! Time to play my first game online and have an 8 year old say he's gonna eff my mom! Woo hoo!"..... only to find the servers absolutely overloaded and destroyed. I literally didn't get in one online match.
@Hungryminecrafterz
@Hungryminecrafterz 4 жыл бұрын
Hairless Sasquatch tf lol?
@mastercheif0124
@mastercheif0124 4 жыл бұрын
FOV makes such a massive difference, its like a whole new level of depth.
@IncPoint
@IncPoint 4 жыл бұрын
Im not used to it lol, so i dislike it
@nathanddrews
@nathanddrews 4 жыл бұрын
When they changed it starting in Halo 2, I stopped playing.
@DatGrunt
@DatGrunt 4 жыл бұрын
Over a decade of waiting to finish the god damn fight. Glad it's finally here though and they did a pretty great job.
@AlexanderKoshernov
@AlexanderKoshernov 4 жыл бұрын
It's really unfortunate they still didn't fix the water physics in Halo 3 MCC. On Xbox 360 there was this awesome 3D displacement, which by the way worked perfectly in Eldewrito (that fan-made Halo 3 multiplayer PC port), but in MCC it is still broken.
@jenesuispasbavard
@jenesuispasbavard 4 жыл бұрын
I'm so glad they got it right this time. This is by far my favorite Halo game, and possibly my favorite FPS of all time.
@Jaooda
@Jaooda 4 жыл бұрын
5:40 I can't believe you made this joke.... grAAAAAAAAASS
@ashleysaffair
@ashleysaffair 4 жыл бұрын
Searching through the comments to see if anyone else caught the sneaky AVGN nod. Gold
@abuzerkadayf8224
@abuzerkadayf8224 4 жыл бұрын
@@ashleysaffair and for the rest of us who didn't get any of this ?
@PositronCannon
@PositronCannon 4 жыл бұрын
@@abuzerkadayf8224 It's a reference to the Angry Video Game Nerd's intro song.
@TypoDiabetes
@TypoDiabetes 4 жыл бұрын
@@abuzerkadayf8224 yeah I'm confused too :(
@BomimoDK
@BomimoDK 4 жыл бұрын
@@TypoDiabetes Be an adult and google AVGN. This isn't hard bro.
@Hendy5
@Hendy5 4 жыл бұрын
I briefly thought that the 360 footage was the PC version. Just shows how strong the art direction of the original was
@-GameHacKeR-
@-GameHacKeR- 4 жыл бұрын
5:37 I like the AVGN theme there ;)
@turbofanlover
@turbofanlover 4 жыл бұрын
Loved this series on my 360. Looking forward to playing the series again on a PC.
@JP-qb8qx
@JP-qb8qx 4 жыл бұрын
Fond memories of Halo 3. The first game I booted on my new LCD 32" 1080p. I was blown away.
@KombatKastle
@KombatKastle 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite game ever, now with FOV slider..it’s all I needed.
@sirbirbton
@sirbirbton 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah that was literally the only thing keeping me from playing it non-stop since I get kind of motion sick a low FOVs and hate the look of it. I hope for the sake of people playing on console that they get FOV sliders soon, too.
@CRAZYGREGFILMS
@CRAZYGREGFILMS 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad PC players finally get to finish the fight.
@XxI3ioHazardxX
@XxI3ioHazardxX 4 жыл бұрын
I simply love how we live in a time where we can now find a video called "Halo 3 PC tech review" with benchmarks :)
@NexGenTek
@NexGenTek 4 жыл бұрын
Welcome home. Performance is amazing!!
@caknelson2254
@caknelson2254 4 жыл бұрын
Amazing !! However.. Halo 2 still has my heart!
@Liberty_Prime199
@Liberty_Prime199 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed, Halo 2 is the best game in the series.
@retrosoul8770
@retrosoul8770 4 жыл бұрын
It's nice to find others that agree. Halo 3 though still fun is what happens when you try to fix what isn't broken (H2) and end up missing the mark. Downgraded sound effects from assault and battle rifle from H1 and 2, removed satisfying rag doll death animations, slower movement speed, reduced long range br shot accuracy etc. H2s core gameplay was already perfect, and they messed with it for no reason, I was confused even at launch at the downgrades they made.
@StickyBM
@StickyBM 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible video, and great writing and explanation! Thank you Alex!
@bradjohnson8750
@bradjohnson8750 4 жыл бұрын
This game is one of the reasons that I still have my 360. Great game...great series.
@mota2028
@mota2028 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to play it for the first time tomorrow since me and my brother are almost done with halo 2 and will hop on halo 3 right after! They are still fun games even after all this time
@MrsUndergroundMusic
@MrsUndergroundMusic 4 жыл бұрын
If 343 don't fix all issues we should all go and play the 360 version haha
@Aristowi
@Aristowi 4 жыл бұрын
Nice AVGN theme subtle insertion when he said "cannot go back to the past"
@hitbm4755
@hitbm4755 Жыл бұрын
I appreciate DigitalFoundry reviews, you guys do the tech analysis of game engines and unique hardware that is rare from other reviewers. For example, that review you guys did of the possible xbox one APU (where at least the CPU part was original) with Windows 10 and Doom Eternal.
@wc999
@wc999 4 жыл бұрын
this game looks beautiful and performs like butter on pc god bless halo and microsoft
@djbpresents9584
@djbpresents9584 4 жыл бұрын
Shit looks like 2007game imo shoulda remastered all
@djbpresents9584
@djbpresents9584 4 жыл бұрын
@fisher foster as it was hahahah so why saying it's beautiful idk I booted it up last night on my oled at 4k it's pretty meh idk but if u love it so be it, but what is beautiful is fkng ghost of tushima holy hell if I was at hosp doing gastric emptying imaging I'd be on it
@wc999
@wc999 4 жыл бұрын
@@djbpresents9584 just because it's old doesn't mean it's not beautiful only new released games arent exclusively good looking, older titles aren't automatically shit in visuals as time goes on the old re1remake still looks good fzero gx still holds up as well and i can go on of course games striving for realism will look worse as time goes on as technology progresses, but games with distinct artistic flair will maintain integrity like tlou1 or the new tomb raider games just look very dated in terms of visuals as we see newer games but on top of that they are overall very generic too and kind of lose their appeal halo atleast has a distinct design in places and this mixed with the impressive job the team did for 3, it really does look beautiful
@CasepbX
@CasepbX 4 жыл бұрын
I'm disappointed they didn't fix the frame interpolation on Reach.
@Code-n-Flame
@Code-n-Flame 4 жыл бұрын
That's still an issue? I heard some guy came up with a fix for it. There's a YT video on it.
@ILovinGunz
@ILovinGunz 4 жыл бұрын
I'm just glad Halo 3 doesn't have that issue. I would've never installed the collection ever again.
@jdidve
@jdidve 4 жыл бұрын
I honestly think the reach is kinda unplayable once youve went to any other mcc game
@Mart-E12
@Mart-E12 4 жыл бұрын
What? I played it and everything looked butter smooth, didn't notice anything wrong
@Code-n-Flame
@Code-n-Flame 4 жыл бұрын
@SonnieSlim yea you wouldn't be saying that if you were having that problem. It's really horrible. To the point where I didn't bother playing the game on my 144 Gsync screen and had to use my 4k TV.
@user-dj2sz8qn1w
@user-dj2sz8qn1w 4 жыл бұрын
Love the AVGN shoutout @ 5:38
@jlat96
@jlat96 4 жыл бұрын
Graphics Fidelity: Improved. My ability to land headshots: Nonexistent
@ThePokestopPapi
@ThePokestopPapi 4 жыл бұрын
Loading...done.
@MrsUndergroundMusic
@MrsUndergroundMusic 4 жыл бұрын
343 sucks
@z0nx
@z0nx 4 жыл бұрын
You should play with a controller, holy shit that auto aim :DD
@mrpiratefox4497
@mrpiratefox4497 4 жыл бұрын
@@z0nx m&k is still way better
@livingcorpse5664
@livingcorpse5664 4 жыл бұрын
I wish KZbin videos went higher than 60fps so I can better appreciate the fps differences. I can see the differences DF is pointing out even at 60fps but I want the full effect.
@kaddasixseven3581
@kaddasixseven3581 4 жыл бұрын
the 60fps lock for weapon projectiles might be limited by the hit detection in multiplayer which is also limited to 60 ticks. Interpolating that would be messing with that.
@yosyp5905
@yosyp5905 4 жыл бұрын
then why do other weapons update at more than 60?
@noshow
@noshow 4 жыл бұрын
Alex, huge fan, and I appreciate these videos. Something you missed is the horrible implementation of coop which is rendered unplayable by lag and stutter. There is something very wrong there.
@Shadowflare10
@Shadowflare10 4 жыл бұрын
I had a perfectly fine time in co-op
@SuicideMachine
@SuicideMachine 4 жыл бұрын
I have 2 gripes with Halo3 in MCC on PC: - Motion blur, which doesn't have an option to be turned off and been bothering me when playing the game . - The tutorial message and their position being way too close to center of the screen and sometimes obscuring action (just like in Halo 2).
@El-Duderino-His-Dudeness
@El-Duderino-His-Dudeness 4 жыл бұрын
I'm kind of hoping someone makes a mod to remove the visor. I know you can kind of tune it out over time, but 1 and 2 didn't have it.
@karljuliuz
@karljuliuz 4 жыл бұрын
They're gonna add proper graphics settings in future updates, probably when Halo 4 hits, as that will come with a performance fix for Reach and Halo 2A.
@igorthelight
@igorthelight 4 жыл бұрын
@@karljuliuz Nice! That's when I will buy the MCC ;-)
@Lb8068
@Lb8068 4 жыл бұрын
Love the ad placement
@smacko81
@smacko81 4 жыл бұрын
05:40 subtle avgn reference
@tehgman2
@tehgman2 4 жыл бұрын
I was waiting for this. Thanks
@dreammfyre
@dreammfyre 4 жыл бұрын
Alex! First, absolutely love your content here on DF! You’re a real champion for us PC-gamers. Second, could you please take a look at and run some FPS graphs on Path of Exile? That game have just been having absolutely awful performance issues lately, and it would be nice to have it in numbers and put a spotlight on it just to light some fires under GGGs ass, so that maybe one day they sort out all the issues out. I think a lot of POE players would watch a video like this too as it has been a talking point for a long time now in the community,
@bsaintnyc
@bsaintnyc 3 жыл бұрын
The resolution boost makes it look like a whole new game. I have never seen a resolution boost change visuals so dramatically, so much detail was lost because of the lower resolution.
@MunkeyChips
@MunkeyChips 4 жыл бұрын
5:40 nice AVGN reference 👌
@The90sGamingGuy
@The90sGamingGuy 4 жыл бұрын
My introduction to Halo was on the original Xbox at a friend's house. I might get this game for PC to relive that part of my childhood.
@luiscantu4968
@luiscantu4968 4 жыл бұрын
It looks fantastic in Xbox One X too at 4K 60fps
@Jhonka411
@Jhonka411 4 жыл бұрын
5:40 you smooth bastard 😏
@mat8448
@mat8448 4 жыл бұрын
yaay!! been waiting for every one of your videos on mcc and am never disappointed as to how thorough you all are!
@Tentix
@Tentix 4 жыл бұрын
Would've loved to see some performance testing with integrated GPU's in notebooks.
@teneesh3376
@teneesh3376 4 жыл бұрын
I was wondering why there was pop in. I never played the original so I didn't know if it was always there or if they added the issue
@Axelazo
@Axelazo 4 жыл бұрын
Well I'm playing it in ultrawide at 2560x1080, there's some stretching in some textures, like fog and UI elements, I don't know if that is easy to fix, but the gameplay is really fun, and I really appreciate the fact that the cutscenes play at ultrawide,no black bars!
@aarongreenfield9038
@aarongreenfield9038 4 жыл бұрын
Play it at either full 4K or 1880P, it worked that way for me and I got no stretching.
@Quake1402
@Quake1402 3 жыл бұрын
Such a good review and you paid a lot of attention to details, impressive.
@ReneHoffmann194
@ReneHoffmann194 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, they finally fixed the sound on Reach! Maybe now is the time to get the MCC ... or lets wait until that backlog of the summer sale decreased a bit.
@igorthelight
@igorthelight 4 жыл бұрын
2020 Winter Sale would be the perfect time! ;-)
@HugoStiglitz88
@HugoStiglitz88 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the info on the modes and their affect on both GPU and CPU. That's REALLY helpful information for me since my rig is much more CPU bound. I don't really care about draw distance so I'll probably run on original mode or performance. Only I would like to know what other projected shadows you lose on performance mode besides the player character. When I played, the drops weren't bad but they were there when trying enhanced mode at 1440p. They only occured in large battles with VTOLs and many enemies on the ground. I'll try original next time. Reach had the same issues on my rig. Mostly 60 but some drops because of my ass CPU from the 1930's
@dibils
@dibils 4 жыл бұрын
did anyone else not notice any difference between the patched audio compared to the backward compatibility one
@igorthelight
@igorthelight 4 жыл бұрын
I have a bad news for you - you have a very bad audio system.
@max_thx
@max_thx 4 жыл бұрын
Finally the audio is fixed!
@Surasia
@Surasia 4 жыл бұрын
Been waiting for this :o
@XBnPC
@XBnPC 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to boot this up!
@RunsWithKniefs
@RunsWithKniefs 4 жыл бұрын
The online co-op I dunno what's up because the group I played Reach with disconnects within 10 minutes of start of level. We hopped on reach to see if its a connect issue, but we got through a level no drop.
@gilbertplays
@gilbertplays 4 жыл бұрын
I tested this on my Nvidia GT 750M during the flight, and I was able to get a locked 60fps though I got some frame drops in certain locations. I don't know what that happens but when I leave that certain area, the fps stabilizes.
@ThisBirdHasFlown
@ThisBirdHasFlown 4 жыл бұрын
Oh man, I was looking at the default skins and was surprised at how good the textures looked on the weapons for CE multiplayer. I didn't remember them looking so hi-res but chalked it up to having simply not paid attention which made sense as I was looking at the new skins. Surprised it didn't get a mention anywhere from what I saw at least anyway. The back compat audio still sounds better. It's bassier and sounds more powerful as you said. Reverb sounds better too. But still, it's a big difference to the previous MCC version.
@martyngriffiths2791
@martyngriffiths2791 4 жыл бұрын
I've been waiting for you
@nightraven2975
@nightraven2975 4 жыл бұрын
Glad Halo 3 is out now, also happy thr audio fix is here too, I may pick this up in the coming month.
@usul573
@usul573 4 жыл бұрын
Sometimes it drops to $32 on steam.
@UltimateAlgorithm
@UltimateAlgorithm 4 жыл бұрын
@@usul573 this include all 5 games right?
@JustAndre92
@JustAndre92 4 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateAlgorithm Yep! Bought it at that price after _Halo 2_ released for it, and when _Halo 3_ was added a few days ago, all I had to do was download it from an in-game menu, no extra purchase required.
@orriblecol6587
@orriblecol6587 4 жыл бұрын
Xbox Game pass PC 1 dollar first month you can play 1+2+ CE and 3
@usul573
@usul573 4 жыл бұрын
@@UltimateAlgorithm Yes all six, currently Reach, 1, 2, and 3. ODST and 4 are coming.
@Gojerz
@Gojerz 4 жыл бұрын
Enjoyed this review!!
@cooldave10
@cooldave10 4 жыл бұрын
missed opportunity here Alex Battaglia to run this game with a 580 and maybe equivalent Cpu to the Xbox one x to see the frame differences. Nonetheless the amount of stuff you guys teach me all the time is amazing thank you guys :D
@corncorny5963
@corncorny5963 4 жыл бұрын
I've just checked the steam page for ODST and it no longer appears to have a mention of HDR. Quite the shame :(
@no2war274
@no2war274 4 жыл бұрын
I assume post processing (SSAO) in Reach and HCE isn't fixed ?
@stuntman7799
@stuntman7799 4 жыл бұрын
Something not mentioned is that Halo 3's co-op latency feels a lot better now. I'm not sure if it's just me but I'd been playing with a few friends and whether we were on-host or off-host, none of us ran into any input delay. I remember X360 Halo 3 having some pretty bad control lag back in the day, and early MCC Halo 3 was no different
@fiftybottles
@fiftybottles 4 жыл бұрын
interestingly, halo 3 and reach actually use some proprietary waves middleware to achieve their reverb / occlusion processing for all sound effects. they detailed it in a recent blog post, but they no longer have access to these middleware solutions for current ports due to (I believe) licensing and compatibility issues with newer APIs. New solutions had to be coded from scratch to emulate these older ones, so I don't think we'll ever achieve 100% parity, but it's very impressive how close they've now been able to get it.
@dreadnaught2448
@dreadnaught2448 4 жыл бұрын
5:38 Nice AVGN reference.
@whatsmyename
@whatsmyename 4 жыл бұрын
So glad Halo 3 ended up being a good port as it's probably my favorite game in the series. The frame-interpolation issues in Halo 2 and Reach had me worried about this one but I'm really glad they were able to make it work this time around.
@charliestineman6050
@charliestineman6050 4 жыл бұрын
Great vid!
@jaysanj152
@jaysanj152 4 жыл бұрын
The Graphical Jump from the Halo games is Undeniably the best part and its truely astounding... Halo 4 is what shocked me the most cus i thought that game released on Xbox One by its next gen looking graphics only to realise its on a fricking 360. Each sequels always looks like an upgrade and never a downgrade. I used to believe Reach was a downgrade then i understood it's intentionally washed out due to its depressing plot.
@nomad_20XX
@nomad_20XX 4 жыл бұрын
I was thinking if running it in linux under wine/proton would help trick it into running on the old GPU, but from the little research I just did it might not support the required OpenGL version for that either (and vulkan is obviously out of the picture as well). Still a shame we can't see how that would perform
@MajoraZ
@MajoraZ 4 жыл бұрын
It disappointed me to see both the video and the comments touch on the remaining issues with Halo Reach's frame interpolation, but not all of it's improperly scaled post-processing effects for stuff like lighting bloom, fog, rain, etc; something which I don't believe 343I has even publicly acknowledged yet. On that note, does Halo 3 have any busted postprocessing effects like Reach, then? That's something the video doesn't address at all either way.
@FeeLtheHertZ
@FeeLtheHertZ 4 жыл бұрын
God I can't wait, I am definitely getting this on PC. By far my favorite Halo game, such flora and feel. Or, something.
@riveraluciano
@riveraluciano 4 жыл бұрын
I was expecting to see the same motion blur mod you've added as shown previously. Btw, what was the name of that mod?
@Mr.ClimateChange
@Mr.ClimateChange 4 жыл бұрын
They just need to put the push to talk button for controller users back in Halo 3. It was on 360 but on PC I have to put my controller down and press the V key to talk in game or go open mic.
@Jakepf
@Jakepf 4 жыл бұрын
"PARallax" Plosives were insane this video.
@electronicsaxman1
@electronicsaxman1 4 жыл бұрын
HDR support has been added to their backlog per their June development update
@dr.debsutradhar1756
@dr.debsutradhar1756 4 жыл бұрын
7:10 hear here? here hear? here here? hear hear ?
@Decenium
@Decenium 4 жыл бұрын
More about sound pls, thanks!
@MidniteMeatBus
@MidniteMeatBus 4 жыл бұрын
I get this weird issue where after a few minutes of movement screen tear will be introduced until I go into the pause menu. Tried all vsync options, closed background apps, verified game files, etc. Its strange, I cap my fps at 120 and it has never dipped below that yet during more hectic scenes the jaggy screen tear/mouse jitter still persists. Its really getting annoying that i cant fix it especially because besides this one issue, it is so damn butter smooth. Seems like when my fps goes below 150, I get screen tear even though im vsynced at 120.
@Ovahtsug
@Ovahtsug 4 жыл бұрын
HDR is in the roadmap now
@SavagexRaccoon
@SavagexRaccoon 4 жыл бұрын
Dam the OST is still a banger
@Th3James
@Th3James 4 жыл бұрын
Halo 2 with hdr on the c9 oled impressed me more than anything else. Want that for H3
@llSubSpacell
@llSubSpacell 4 жыл бұрын
One complaint i found is when you play co-op campaign if you are not host the frames will shudder above 60fps. Other than that no real complaints although i wish there were secondary button map options.
@teneesh3376
@teneesh3376 4 жыл бұрын
My biggest wish for MCC is for 343 to have steam input API. For those who don't know, without steam input API (SIAPI), using steam input would just rebind controls to different keys or controller buttons. If it is supported, then you could bind different actions to each button. Also different functions that developers can put in. Also if done right, changing different which button does what would show different button prompts in the game. Maybe if the properly support SIAPI, we could probably get proper gyro aiming
@Cairnsification
@Cairnsification 3 жыл бұрын
They removed HDR in the description of ODST.
@kyleogle2924
@kyleogle2924 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad we have digital foundry. They hold devs accountable for great or shite performance. Alex as always is fantastic
@GhostsGraphics
@GhostsGraphics 4 жыл бұрын
I would love that if instead of just splitscreen they went a step further and allowed us to do split monitors. If you have 2 monitors for example how great would it be if each person can play on their own?
@pandassudsnshine4125
@pandassudsnshine4125 4 жыл бұрын
There’s certain games, certain series even, that every generation need to experience. Halo was one of them for me.
@ashdoglsu
@ashdoglsu 4 жыл бұрын
I played PC MCC Halo 2 today for first time in over a week. The weapon sounds are noticeably improved.
@6ch6ris6
@6ch6ris6 4 жыл бұрын
nice. finally this collection gets the love it needs. i will get it when i get a new xbox one controller. my current one is broken and i dont wanna play halo with mouse and keyboard. doesnt feel right :D
@drownsinkoolaid4203
@drownsinkoolaid4203 4 жыл бұрын
I switch off from kbm and controller, and it's pretty great on both imo. Maybe it makes the games too easy on kbm but crank the difficulty up and it plays just fine
@gdoubleu8045
@gdoubleu8045 4 жыл бұрын
About to start solo LASO (going through all released games so far) wish me luck. I've solo'd normal legendary, so I have a little (tiny) bit of preparation.
@evklinken
@evklinken 4 жыл бұрын
The best Halo.
@user-qe7bt9dz1l
@user-qe7bt9dz1l 4 жыл бұрын
Nah Halo CE.
@teknoman117
@teknoman117 4 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if they could fix co-op. It was crashing seconds after starting for days. Turns out if you lock the framerate to 60 on both ends it works fine. At least it did for us for a few hours.
@Hrcdd
@Hrcdd 4 жыл бұрын
NO HDR? My LG C9 even shows me the HDR icon at start.
@berdt4870
@berdt4870 4 жыл бұрын
I was beyond thrilled when i fired the game up as the only console I owned was a ps1 and I've wanted to play H3 ever since it came out and now in 2020 my wish was granted and i am extremely happy and in love with it :)
@teneesh3376
@teneesh3376 3 жыл бұрын
It could be better. They could have added subtitles to gameplay dialogue, playing multiplayer in the campaign could have less lag, more graphics options (mainly an option to take out the bloom), letting mouse & keyboard input to be read at the same time as gamepad input (for better gyro aiming), and supporting steam input api
@1chiTheKiller
@1chiTheKiller 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for that AVGN joke. Loved it. :)
@MoreNimrod
@MoreNimrod 4 жыл бұрын
Anyone know if it's possible to play with uncapped framerate? I have tried a few times but the game turns stuttery to the point of unplayable. Maybe there's a setting I can change?
@forevergames7776
@forevergames7776 4 жыл бұрын
Simply awesome. Got to play this in PC
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