Halo 4 DELETED content that didn't make the cut

[@RocketSloth]

Check out Galaxy's channel as he was a huge help with this! kzbin.info/door/ALF22rCYkNwMySTzhYQnvA

[@halolover6893]

I have an idea for a video you might have interest in. I love channels like galaxy but KZbin is awful at recommending smaller channels. Would you consider a video shouting out smaller channel that are doing cool things. Cut content, or mods, or animations.

[@TheBl00D1u5t]

Lmao. You guys literally just trippled almost quadrupled galaxy's subs.

[@brianvaneyll9852]

I really like the early forerunners. The creepy generic faces and the orbs leaving the body make them feel mysterious

[@dissonanceparadiddle]

it makes it much more clear that they were ancient humans corrupted by the composer.

[@R1ch13Apr1l3]

It is standard for them to use placeholder voice actors when they haven't finalized the story, they don't want to call in a voice actor again with changed lines to pay them twice.

[@milowolfface9392]

That makes sense. The replacing them line threw me off.

[@RosheenQuynh]

Damn, that's smart!

[@Nefnoj]

Imagine if we got Spartan Ops WITH Firefight. It would have made each map release so much more interesting. While Halo 4's enemy types weren't as fun, the loadout system and ordnance system would have complimented it VERY well.

[@mbphilipblack8993]

Yes, I agree Spartan ops potential could have been met with a firefight style mode or a combination/ new rendition of firefight as Spartan ops was to be honest trying it's hardest to fill that role as with the mission types with your own customised Spartan and the new maps/updates which were really good IMO

[@ddsretro2697]

Something I recently just found out but in the bazaar map in multiplayer they’re are two posters of halo 4 and 5 Chief instead of infinite Chief. Not super related to the topic but kinda interesting.

[@Onxide]

it makes sense

[@LandonVR]

@@Onxide maybe because that’s when he got back?

[@LittleWhiskey]

Halo 5 needs to be forgotten, wish they wouldn’t act proud of it

[@pixelatedmess9269]

@@LittleWhiskey nah the multiplayer slapped, we remember the good with the bad.

[@LittleWhiskey]

@@pixelatedmess9269 the multiplayer wasn’t bad at all you’re right but 4&5 are like half halo games since one nails campaign and the other multiplayer XD I will say halo4 on mcc is actually really fun especially btb, infection and slayer but replaying the campaign for h4 was strenuous but a brilliant story “In my opinion”

[@psyclonetheseahawk9261]

I remember in one E3 interview for Halo 4, they accidentally showed an enemy / vehicle that was cut from the final game. It looked like some kind of robotic stingray floating through the trees on Infinity. You need to contact whoever has the Infinity E3 level so that they can look for and uncover it. Like this comment so it will be seen.

[@-Gal4xy-]

I actually looked at it on my playthrough of the E3 demo. It was supposed to be part of the ambient life for the game which got cut sadly.

[@jmccann6735]

@@-Gal4xy- Where are the Space Rhinos

[@-Gal4xy-]

@@jmccann6735 The one's seen in Infinites promotional material? They were cut from the game because of the last gen version of Infinite.

[@justsomehalofan4386]

Why does it always seem that the coolest concepts and content are always the ones get cut. Everything from cut weapons, to vehicles, to maps, etc. What I find interesting is how the forerunner structures in this build have a more CE style to them (Imagine if that is what requiem's structures looked like), I also find it odd that they used the halo 5 plasma pistol model, but in the final build used Reach's model.

[@grailw9221]

yes you are correct. if you look in the art book, you can see the art team actually wanted the structures to be more true to the classic game's, instead of a more safer typical hollywood sci fi of the time look. that;s true for almost everything in halo 4 sadly

[@WretchedHobbit]

The needler also looked like Halo 5's design

[@grailw9221]

@@WretchedHobbit oh yeah

[@Fi_Sci_]

That theme they used in the background for the Placeholder scene at the start of the video was actually pretty good. Not distinctly halo, but still a fairly good theme that gives weight to the characters actions.

[@lewiswhite6681]

Those placeholder voices sound exactly like the mo-cap performers for Chief and Cortana

[@lowercasejackal]

Yeah, in multiple interviews, Bruce Thomas, the mocap actor, has said said they do the full performance capture with voice before the final voiceover gets recorded.

[@TheSharkKing45]

From what I've been able to tell, in the second level, one of the Placeholder voice actors for the Chief is possibly industry veteran Steve Blum

[@TemporalKnight]

At the 3:24 you can see what looks like the version of the Plasma Pistol that we have in 5 and Infinite. I wonder why they decided to use the Reach version in the final game, and then switch to this model. And the desert map at 10:33 looks like it was turned in Behemoth for Infinite.

[@Duckbusinessman]

I noticed these

[@TemporalKnight]

@@Duckbusinessman It's really interesting.

[@Zootroi]

It's stuff like this that makes me really think Halo 4 should've been delayed a year and released as a launch title for the Xbox One. Feels like they would've been able to fine-tune some story elements and properly test a ton of the gameplay aspects.

[@grailw9221]

look delaying would not have helped. the reason most content was cut or changed, was due to it being not "relateible" enough by 343's higher up's. a good example are the forerunner weapons. they started out being fully distinct from the unsc weapons, but got changed, because esports players brought in to test the game thought that they were not competative enough

[@tTaseric]

​@@grailw9221 Got a source on the competitive thing? That's definitely true for Halo 5 and Infinite, but Halo 4's design and reception just doesn't reflect what you're saying at all. It's an incredibly casual game that esports players hated. And a delay would have helped because it's VERY clear that it was being held back by the 360's technology. I'm fairly certain that AI complexity was one of the first things to be downgraded to actually get the game working on the 360.

[@Battlecry45]

its almost like a theme... halo 4 should have been on xbox one. Halo Infinite should have been one Series X...

[@kokomart_in]

@@Battlecry45 MS should've let them make it a next gen exclusive. Tying down your mainstay first party franchise (THE FRANCHISE SHOWN IN THE CONSOLES BOX NO LESS) to a console that was outdated even before it was released seems like a dumb fucking decision.

[@BigboiiTone]

Funny to me how a lot of new games go for that "cell shaded" look. Kinda makes me want to play these early version in multiplayer!

[@sanguinesomnambulist]

2:25 is the best high school fan fiction of halo ever

[@ClaytonMathisVO]

Halo 4 is one of my favorite Halo games and it's so cool to see the behind the scenes and what was being worked on.

[@rackneh]

Damn the stand-in Cortana should be used for a different character. Her voice sounds good

[@libtard699]

Love the series! Is there any chance you guys could do a video like this one on CE?

[@SniperRed0092]

“Sure, cause the gunfire won’t be enough.” That’s so Cortana XD

[@joshfoustcommunity8928]

Halo 4 is one of my favorites stories oof allll tiimme, and seeing the development, I really appreciate!😊

[@scottnoseworthy975]

Forunners made their debut in "Forerunner" not "Infinity"

[@ChouRaiyuki]

Halo 4's one of my favorite games in the series so it's neat to see all of this. It's interesting that the Forerunner aesthetics were a bit more similar to the classic ones with the floor patterns and stuff. I'm rather curious if the level Infinity had at some point been two levels because it FEELS like that level is two separate ones pasted together (unless perhaps there was some section where the player does get closer to infinity or at least gets flown in the Pelican there). Also that Forerunner City map looks a LOT like Headlong from Halo 2....which would've been really cool. Also curious as to why Downse and Taylor were considered for recasting; seems like a bizarre choice to even think about unless there was some chance they just weren't going to reprise their roles. Thank goodness they didn't though; would've been worse than Halo 3's recasts. Honestly can't imagine what H4 would have been like had they had more dev time and stuck it on the One as a launch title.

[@The_Big_Jay]

"Halo 4 is one of my favorite games in the series." So I see you've only played 4, 5, and Infinite.

[@ChouRaiyuki]

@@The_Big_Jay You must love making bad assumptions

[@The_Big_Jay]

@@ChouRaiyuki I just fail to see how 4 can possibly be your favorite.

[@ChouRaiyuki]

@@The_Big_Jay I said it was one of my favorites; not my favorite. But regardless there's enough in the game I enjoyed that put it over most other games in the series (specifically, among ever game past the first two.)

[@The_Big_Jay]

@@ChouRaiyuki Again. I fail to see how that's possible.

[@ItsButterBean1020]

I'd also note the huge amount of cut dialogue in Halo 4

[@Nubert69]

I like how in the video galaxy had 500 subs and after this video released he almost had 1k

[@DGCpicturesEntertainment]

10:26 HOLY CRAP! IT'S BEHEMOTH!!!

[@monorc-ccgreggor]

halo 4 is goig to be 10 years old in november what the hell

[@elijahtiemens5532]

9:00 Palmer refers to the voice as “BB”, which is short for “Black Box”; an ONI AI character from the Karen Travis novels. Apparently he was cut in favor of Roland.

[@the_fc4life]

@10:31 looks like a version of this map made it to Infinite! 🤔

[@ThommyofThenn]

Checking out that Galaxy channel you mentioned. Looks like more good obscure Halo stuff. I'll check it out and thanks

[@greenheron9512]

interesting, it seems like they were gonna use BB (black box from the kilo-5 books) instead of roland. wouldve been interesting but i love our orange pilot boy more

[@activatehalo7763]

Notice how the halo 5/infinite plasma pistol model features in early versions of halo 4. I wonder why they went back to the reach design even after making a new model...

[@hiddensynin]

You guys are so nice this video came out and we did manage to give galaxy 1k subs Good on you guys!

[@voltspc9394]

7:39 “this ain’t no smoke and mirror bullshit”

[@feedshank8207]

Love the 8 bit version of megaranger that plays at the start of your videos

[@courdell7426]

7:53 oof that REALLY fucking pisses me off how firefight was originally apart of the game. I tell you, we will never see another Arcade mode ever again because it would be too fun.

[@wyattbhoffman]

Both the Plasma Pistol and Needler both had there halo 5 designs in the production of Halo 5 which you missed, assuming they were running out of time to polish them so they cut them for the Reach designs and ended using them for halo 4

[@unsortedguy]

Many of these cut multiplayer maps could be really fun to forge!

[@evetttaylor]

Honestly, to me I really hope they add the mk1 suit from halo legends in place of, or as a variant of the mantis in halo infinite.

[@anaveragesynapticmain5668]

The Promethean Knights placeholder face kinda reminds me of the new Belos helmet variants, maybe they used those placeholder faces for the new armor in Season 8 MCC?

[@lordv4zka876]

Halo 4 deserves it's online servers to be online. Plus I WANT HALO 4 FIREFIGHT

[@sabre0smile]

I kinda feel like some of the earlier blocky forerunner structures looked more like the Bungie halo games. I kinda prefer it. Station looks almost like the ends of the Gondola ride on Regret?

[@grailw9221]

i have the art book, and can confirm the blocky look was intended, instead of it just being a work in progress

[@jlatzss1457]

Cortona looks terrifying

[@Ashamedofmypast]

Any research would have revealed stasis as being a slow down effect AOE ability it was also prototyped as a weapon before 343i abandoned the cool prometheans

[@deveusdude]

I really loved halo 4, it wasn't until years later I learned it was widely hated. I loved the campaign story. In mp I thought they took the armor abilities that felt tacked on in reach and changed the formula enough they felt like they were suppose to be there. Also I liked being able to spawn in with my favorite rifle (covenant carbine).

[@QrazyQuarian]

I don't think Halo 4 was widely hated. People all agreed it was... Not what they expected, but most people, in my experience, tend to think that it wasn't their favorite, but it wasn't a total crap shoot. Multiplayer was definitely the most hated aspect of it, but overall the story was decent--not amazing, but decent.

[@matt5210]

Idk about Cortana but the placeholder voice for Chief is the guy that does the mocap

[@allzpark]

i actully really like the human face on the prometon and i wish they kept it. It's so strange

[@cbrwdy4568]

Those voicelines in the drop pod just make me disappointed that we never got BB in a game

[@Brunter71]

@6:50 Cortana sounds so much like early RvB Tex

[@Miguel-jq6ol]

Really hope we get those halo 4 mod tools and all that unfinished map geometry out there for modders to mess with. Edit: Seeing all those maps it is a damn shame it never got a map pack or that its multiplayer didn't really take off. I really do wonder what they could've done if they got the extra year of development they initially wanted

[@dead3ye209]

I do think when halo 4 mod tools come cut multiplayer content is the first thing modders gonna do

[@Miguel-jq6ol]

@@dead3ye209 Yeah even if we just get more people just porting maps over like with Halo 3 that'd still be really cool to see

[@dead3ye209]

@@Miguel-jq6ol i do hope every map gets made by modders it would be fun to explore nd also i hope all the halo online maps get ported to MCC so that people can bring those maps to other games

[@shreksnow1918]

They really should have waited and made this an Xbox One launch title. The game would have been much better with open levels, the enemy ai would actually be intelligent, and the gameplay would have been properly play tested (prometheans would be fun to fight, and the weapons wouldn’t be mostly useless on higher difficulties). Plus, those terminal things would have actually worked in the game so people wouldn’t be so confused by the plot (that being said they were hidden too well, and we also needed more audio logs scattered throughout the levels. As well as more so there wouldn’t be so much exposition for certain scenes). 4 could have been so much more. If you look at a lot of the cut dialogue there’s a lot of really cool ideas that sadly either weren’t communicated to the player, or the execution was atrociously bad so nobody understood what was going on. The stories still really good, and once they add mod support to 4 we can fix it’s various issues.

[@The_Texorcist]

That’s crazy to think they were seriously considering recasting the voices of MC and Cortana. I mean had they done it fans would have rioted. By that point those voices had been entrained into fans minds, replacing them wouldn’t have worked I think.

[@a_rhymingusername9310]

Wow, I never knew 343 attempted to re-cast Downes & Taylor. Glad that tested poorly and they brought them back.

[@mrplayfulshade1038]

They didn't recast them 😂 that's common to put placeholder voices until they find out what feels best

[@FUJIIDEW]

Jesus... Imagine if they replaced the most iconic voices of Halo. Halo 4 truly would have been the end of Halo.

[@RosheenQuynh]

Over voices? I doubt it. Gamers unfortunately favor gameplay over everything else and don't see it as a whole thing.

[@FUJIIDEW]

@@RosheenQuynh That's why everyone is upset that steve downes doesn't voice him on the show

[@RosheenQuynh]

@@FUJIIDEW Seriously? SERIOUSLY? Man, and I thought the Sonic fandom was bad, my God... there are better things to worry about...

[@J_claud]

Crazy how the first 343 halo title was the best one

[@AdeneTzr]

Huh

[@Mobysimo]

Well that unfinished Cortana from the thumbnail is going to haunt my dreams

[@lordshmee13]

Actually if i were to beg modders for anything id ask for new textures for forge items, all super awesome wow

[@sebastiank4963]

I love halo 4. This was the one I grew up With. I know it gets hate but I loved this game to death

[@masterofdisaster26]

He almost at 1000 subscribers already thanks to you

[@TheElectricHobo]

I really wish you guys could work on making your scripts a bit more concise. I love the ideas you always come up with but can never make it too far into your vids due to the rambling and repetitiveness. The audio editing is also very jumpy and obviously filled with cuts. Just feels like 10% more effort in production could go a long way into making your uploads more enjoyable. Sorry for bringing bad vibes, just couldn’t help but say something after watching you guys for so long.

[@RileyLive98]

the placeholder actors were the mocap actors who played chief and Cortana.

[@PointingToNull]

The standoff map is literally just h3 standoff. they weren't remaking it. its 1:1 with halo 3. its the same as the sandtrap map where it was just ported to h4 for development testing

[@vipuldass2318]

6:10 Gundam chief

[@chirazhammami7119]

So glad that they fixed the storm rifle and Turned it to plasma repeater instead of something else

[@Born...]

LOL they actually named promo vision to "x-ray vision" Even 343 knew how broken and unfun it was IN 2011 LMAO

[@EcoHound]

Clicked on the video and immediately got distracted by the fact that a version of the Megaranger theme was playing

[@Axiobletii]

The thumbnail tho

[@savaget2058]

The MP level design for the cut maps looks better than every map in Halo Infinite

[@noahdeguzman4489]

The voice acting reminds me of the og early 2010s machinimas.

[@SigmaProps]

9:00 I’m sorry, BB? Like as in the ONI AI used by Admiral Parangosky and later Serin Osman?

[@Pertlight]

2:17 this is the Halo tv show

[@hallucinationthoughts]

Basically halo reach 1.5

[@3mpt7]

Bungie Halo cut content: Yeah, I can see why that got cut from the final release version, particularly with the limitations of the original Xbox. 343 Industries cut content: You should have released Halo 4 on FOUR discs instead of two! What's wrong with you? Now you have to live with the legacy of always playing second--I mean, twenty-sixth fiddle to Bungie.

[@apex3d595]

Anyone else notice how his cadence is fast then slows down with almost every sentence. Omg

[@WearyCompanion6333]

Interesting, I love your halo content , keep it up

[@heheshabutie33]

You don’t need Halo, we have Halo at home.

[@m0002856]

3:40 "Oh shit look out.. It's the FUD!!!!" "Do you mean, 'The Flood,'?" *WHOOSH ZOOM KERBLAM*

[@josephcallon7493]

Love the channel, keep up the great work

[@lufa7886]

can we download these builds if we have a modded 360?

[@luisfernandolopez9794]

343’s first tittle was halo combat evolved anniversary

[@mattgold1443]

The placeholder voices are so... awkward...

[@indiana47]

Next episode is maps and levels that did make the cut.

[@Battlecry45]

I wonder what happened to this 343 that actually developed stuff. Now it just seems like their output is a whole lot of nothing.

[@bulbasaur1534]

8:00 why couldn't we have this version of the storm rifle ? XD This one's so funny lookin

[@Suumac_]

Any link to a video on that ebay copy file? That sounds super cool

[@lordcanti]

Are these builds available somewhere online? I want to see if I can boot them on my RGH 360. Initial Google searching only shows videos but no downloadable build.

[@Noel_FGC]

bro that cortana looks like shes addicted to every drug imaginable

[@nicuzn1197]

Finally a positive Halo 4 video from you guys.

[@rokasb9441]

6:55 that kinda sounds like halo 2 cortana :)

[@JackAchenbach]

"Fortress" is Behemoth in Halo Infinite.

[@rodrigomelendez1545]

Wow that’s the Halo 5 neddler

[@loxton117]

To me, Halo 4 was teetering on swaying strongly in the narrative direction of the books. I feel like they were doubtful about that in the studio, so kept on the edge of it. I think the decision to veer away from that deep lore storyline is what has led us to where we are now with a Halo mainstream narrative that doesn't seem to know what it wants to be about. Halo 4 was the peak of the games narrative in my opinion.

[@pyrelord8763]

ive said it before, if the didact had been better flushed out and the fight more satisfying, h4 wouldve been a good place to end cortanas and possibly chiefs story. i feel like they killed her then realised they had no vision for chiefs story past that and panicked and pulled her back from the grave to do it even worse the next time. h4 had way better narrative than anything that came after it for sure. h5 and infininite win the prize of being so boring and empty that ive yet to replay either.

[@loxton117]

@@pyrelord8763 I hate to agree, but I do absolutely. I remember after 4's release there was lots of harsh feedback revolving around "wtf is this, that, and the other in connection to the books?" and they could have been braver and leaned into it, and tried to bring some of the narratives from the books into the game and the same fans who criticized that might have loved the suddenly expanded and new world they could have had. They took it to a point that was such a great send-off of Cortana, and then got scared. I was legitimately excited for Halo 5 after finishing 4, and thinking that now we might get an onscreen version of Chief a lot more like the pre-Cortana novel versions of him, but more humanized. But then they made his entire world revolve around Cortana because they didn't know how to humanize the in-game near-mute man. I'm surprised by actually liking the new Paramount tv show, there are elements I need to make myself not compare to the game/books, but the way in one episode they humanized John was excellent (if a tinsy bit rushed, but obvs for necessity).

[@pyrelord8763]

agreed. i came into H4 after reading the forrunner trilogy so when i heard they were calling h4-6 the forunner saga i expected the didact to be a more key figure… but no. they composed him in a quick-time cutscene then undid it so a comic could kill him for reals between 4 and 5. i did not realise that until years after h5 came out. 343 has a really hard time killing off characters meaningfully (remember jul mdama?) and completely, everyone gets retconned back in to be killed again. its just so weird. but as for chief/cortana, i just wish h5 didnt happen tbh. its story didnt matter, the conflict it set up was resolved off screen cause they wanted the banished to somehow be involved in infinite. its all just bad storytelling/planning tbh. also ive not watched the new tv show, i stopped watching most things when it everything got split into several streaming platforms.

[@loxton117]

@@pyrelord8763 I suggest watching the show if you have the available service. Suspend some of your expectations relating to the Game narrative, and watch it with a fresh perspective, you'll probably enjoy it. There are some things that I felt eehhh about. But I was quite pleasantly surprised.

[@madmax6662]

Not sure if you have a vid on it but halo 2 well in its early days had many pressure launching glitches mostly found in multi play maps they were good fun getting out of map on multi player.

[@Cevowo]

11:23 I personally feel halo 5 warzone map vibes

[@potatokilr7789]

Halo 4 wasn't 343's first Halo Title, Halo CE Anniversary was.

[@TheGoldNShadow]

343 just overlooked development on CE Anniversary. Saber Interactive did all of the work.

[@savbeeing7376]

ay low fo

[@OfficialOpinion]

Anyone know what the song at 2:15 is? Or was it just a part of that unfinished scene?

[@AustinH7]

2:50 The fact that 343 fully intended on recasting the voices of master chief and Cortana shows me all I need to know about their disrespect for this franchise

[@TheGoldNShadow]

That was years ago, back when they were working on their first game ever.

[@alvzcizzler]

Luckily most of the 343i people who didn't cared about Halo have left already, incompetent people are still there such as Bonnie Ross and Frank O'Connor for example but oh well

[@AustinH7]

@@alvzcizzler unfortunately the most incompetent people are at the top. Frank and Bonnie never should have been given the keys to the franchise. Especially franky, he was such a low rank at Bungie back in the day for good reason.

[@alvzcizzler]

@@AustinH7 Yeah I agree but what are we gonna do

[@KingsNJenssons]

could have been a management thing than a dev thing (usually the case)

[@piloto182mx4]

10:10 Wait, DE was contracted by 343?!

[@Chris-iq5pr]

Chief on Darth Vader mode

[@BigboiiTone]

Therapist: it's ok, placeholder Cortana can't hurt you in the physical world Me: 0:01

[@WHITEPERSUAS1ON]

Man that thumbnail is cursed