Halo Flashpoint Recon Edition Review

[@librarianseth5572]

Wib is growing a British actor's "playing a leader in a WWII movie from the 1980s" mustache.

[@dungeonsanddobbers2683]

Also known as the "Legally obliged to remain 300 metres away from a primary school" moustache.

[@psykomancer4420]

"The Halo series has been around for over 20 years now" Pause video Lean back in chair Take a deep breath Resume video

[@Gigasius]

Like. Mood. Man.

[@tenletters5889]

Halo 2 alone has been around for 20 years. Halo itself is actually 23 years old

[@madosx9903]

You forgot the back pain 😅

[@AndrewMcColl]

This weekend I had to call my ISP's help desk to get a replacement router. The experience was so bad I had to restrain myself from going full grumpy old b'stard and saying "Listen up, Sonny Jim. I helped found this team you're now working in 20 years ago, and my have standards slipped since then. Even when I worked a weekend shift by myself, no call went unanswered for more than 15 minutes." Then I realised I was rapidly approaching "Boomer" and just swallowed by anger instead, like a good GenXer.

[@92bagder]

My bones suddenly hurt, I remember playing halo combat evolved in elementary school at my friends house

[@pavarottiaardvark3431]

sudden burst of nostalgia from the whippy stick noise

[@SnipeandWib]

I was wondering if that sound would activate anyone haha

[@leaguesmanoframsgate]

@@SnipeandWib Activation confirmed. Just, um not from *gaming* memories.

[@teecefamilykent]

Best part of the video!

[@pavarottiaardvark3431]

@@leaguesmanoframsgate Well personally I have used those measuring sticks for.... both activities

[@adamstringer7092]

The Marathon outro music felt like an appropriate choice, it was nice.

[@VAB0L0]

I only wish they took advantage of greeting card technology to have the box play the Halo Gregorian chant when you open it

[@mattyno964]

Flip man, you should work in product design

[@Secretgeek2012]

That would have taken this to epic level. 😁

[@vaniellys]

Snipe and Wib talking about Halo ? Now that's a crossover I never thought I would see !

[@marcwittkowski5146]

I mean, they have livestreamed Halo before.

[@boss1380]

1:35 Minis in the box: you ever wonder why we’re here?

[@johnfraire6931]

It's one of life's greatest mysteries

[@dracometeors3010]

1:50 but how do they compare to a pink lego spaceman with a chi... OH MY GOD😊

[@tenletters5889]

This game is begging to be made into a battle report/machinima hybrid

[@FrogWizard224]

That price isn't bad, i like games with reasonably priced 2 person starter sets.

[@IC-Dice]

It's on brand for Mantic, their starters are some of the best in the wargaming world.

[@nakenmil]

11:33 The Marathon music at the end feels like a deep cut.

[@MAD22324]

holy heck its mr chief

[@ignaciofernandez3322]

I'm so happy to see you cover this game, I love halo and I love your channel, so excited for release!!!

[@KiltCladViking]

Wort wort wort

[@Powoga]

eh tabooey

[@BeepBoopFriendo]

GREETINGS

[@adampage593]

AAAAAAAH, WUHBAGUH!

[@KiltCladViking]

@adampage593 iamtehmeh IAMTEHMEH

[@salamanda550]

Very glad this ended up a positive review. I was super hyped finding out Halo was getting a tabletop wargame again.

[@scottperkins5038]

This might have overtaken Fallout Factions for my next stupid perchase. Ive been interested in Deadzone for a while anyway and I know at last one person who'd enjoy giving this a go.

[@stillunsure7630]

Thank you for this review, my son's love Halo so will be picking a copy up to play with them.

[@bradp6452]

I think the pricing is better in the US vs gw stuff as mantic has used a more reasonable pounds to dollars conversion compared to gws stuck in the last century conversion.

[@BeepBoopFriendo]

I do like the idea of respawning, too many games feel like they lose their edge after two turns with so many dead assets.

[@commanderwookiecopc806]

I hope they add Marines, the various Covanent species and Flood down the line. The game being limited to just multiplayer feels like they are missing out on the wider halo universe and lore

[@PhysicalSky128]

Same. Hopefully the game will get enough of a player base for other factions to be released

[@sentre749]

the deluxe set does come with some Elites, but yeah, hopefully some kind of ‘Firefight’ expansion will come out that provides all the Covenant units at least

[@elchjol2777]

I could see ODSTs costing half a Spartan's worth of unit slots while marines cost a quarter.

[@censor2112]

Little thing that I thought was cool was having the quick start rules on the mat. I haven't seen that in other tabletop games

[@williamlydon2554]

1:36 Who is that on the book shelf behind you?

[@olly123451]

Marathon music in the credits? That is some excellent stuff!

[@DwarvenMoustache-ek3ok]

Neat. I'll have to pay mire attention to what Mantic produce now.

[@TalexTheLich]

mmmaaaannnn I needed a good video from you guys thank you so much lol and amazing work as always ^-^

[@xGamermonkeyx]

Awesome video as always, love hearing you guys walk us through a silly wargame for silly sausages as always. Also, that moustache really suits you Wib!

[@cianwalsh9137]

Now that is a mustache

[@deity_miniatures]

Great Review!

[@Scrombo2]

10:02 I'm faaaaar from an expert, but 5 bucks per mini plus rules feels pretty reasonable if a slightly on the pricey side

[@AsurionWhitestar]

So happy for a non-biased view on the product. Got yourself a sub from me.!! 👍

[@lebendigesgespenst7669]

This is awesome. One of my longtime favorite games meshed with one my favorite new hobbies

[@jammywesty91]

Great vid guys. I've wanted a Halo miniatures game like this since I was a kid but it's just tragic that they're beholden to the 343 aesthetic. They've never understood the design language that made Halo so unique and easy on the eyes. If they ever release miniatures in the classic Bungie style, I'll get them day one. Will have to stick to 3D prints for now.

[@brucesshipyards744]

Assuming Flashpoint lasts until the next Halo game comes out in 1-2.5 years, which'll likely be a Halo CE remake, you'll probably at least get a Mark V Master Chief if nothing else. Also, the fact they labeled those Spartans as being in 'Mark VII' makes me think they've already planned ahead to use Halo 2/3's Mark VI or Reach's Mark V. I don't think even 343/Halo Studios wants to go back to the Halo 4/5 look, given how they've used none of it after Infinite launched. Personally I'm hoping for the Halo 3 customization, but I wouldn't mind Halo Wars' armor, or SPI.

[@FnRenner]

It's hard to take him seriously with that stache. If he thought that was a good idea kinda thing. Love you guys. Good to see you both smiling and laughing!

[@teecefamilykent]

Great video, ya silly pair!

[@anotherzingbo]

I keep on wanting to compare this to the latest Kill Team starter set, which feels like both a valid and an unfair comparison. On the face of it they're similar, both sci-fi skirmish games with fairly well regarded rulesets with enough miniatures and terrain to play full games from the box, and their MSRPs are similar (£60 v £67.50). But on the other hand I feel they'll work better for different audiences. Halo sounds like it has much more crossover appeal and will be an easier introduction to skirmish games than Kill Team. The Kill Team starter set may have push-fit models but even GW's push fit models can be quite fiddly to put together, and while Kill Team's rules seem pretty good, they are reasonably complex and not so beginner friendly. From my point of view I think I prefer the Kill Team starter - for a little extra you get more models, nicer models and printed MDF terrain sounds nicer than card terrain. But I'm already comfortably within the miniature gaming hobby, and don't have much attachment to Halo, so I think my perspective is missing on many of the advantages the Halo game has. So overall I think that both games have many good points and I hope that Mantic does very well with Halo!

[@kodosdh]

Comparing the 2 sets, both come with 2 full Teams without options (KT needs more models per Team, so you get more there) HF with the full rules, KT with the light rules (so you still need to buy the rulebook) HF comes with profile cards for the models, KT has the unit profiles printed on the back of the rules reference sheet HF has paper mat and enough cardboard terrain for a proper game, KT comes with a cardboard board and MDF terrain, but just obstacles and no 3D terrain so you need more in addition to the rulebook price is a little different depending on the regions, 60 VS 67 GBP, but 70 VS 87 Euro so while HF is the same you pay and extra 5 pounds for KT for not being in the UK (not much but still) and both games have some "problems", like the warping bases on the Halo models, while Kill Team wound markers need to be cut out with scissors I see HF > KT for new players as despite the downside of just having a paper mat and cardboard being not as good as MDF it is a full standalone boxed game that you can keep as it is to play games, were for KT if you want to play the full game you need the rulebook and more terrain (though you want the mousepad map for HF as well, which is similar priced to the KT rulebook, 30 vs 37, so it is just the terrain for KT) if someone is already playing KT/40k, or is more into the painting side of the hobby, the KT box is better as it has nicer models and for collectors/painters the missing rules aren't a big deal

[@blastvader]

Not having enough dice seems to be a common problem across these 'games in a box' type things. The first edition of Deadzone lacked enough command dice and D8s too, and SW: Legion is the same.

[@OmegaLittleBob]

1:53 THE STAR CHILD !!!!!!

[@mattserven3956]

Wort wort wort!

[@szpaQ83]

You have 1st edition of Deadzone, while Halo is based on Deadzone 3rd Edition, witch is very streamlined and easy to learn

[@thediminutivesoldier]

Fantastic video. very well done.

[@arianash7763]

"wort wort wort" is all anyone NEEDS to know about halo tbf

[@viraltang]

Honestly, I think I'm gonna wait to see if this picks up enough steam for them to add Covenant options to the game.

[@Manyhigh]

Comments for the comment throne, engagement for the engagement god!

[@d3rr1ese]

9:45 THATS JOHN HALO

[@loadeddice4696]

They had to freeze him 'cause his dick was too big.

[@lmackenzie89]

Looks cool, but basically the same cost as the kill team starter box?

[@chuth2768]

Honestly I think a lego mini needs to be a standard mini size comparison figure bc… they’re standard

[@LinkiePup]

What I want to see is a Warhammer type Halo war game that is focused on the Human Covenant war, but also has support for Flood armies, Covenant Heretics, and the not as talked about faction the Insurrectionists… the reason the spartans were made in the first place.

[@LinkiePup]

Like imagine having a UNSC army that has a unit of pricey Spartan 2s, and a ton of squishy marines. but then another guy has another UNSC army more marines, but thats because they have weaker, but cheaper Spartan 3s. But to make up for this, they could ally with a detachments of Elites! Then some dude has a Covenant army, that has a grunt focus, and is calling it the “Grunt Rebellion”. Then another dude has a late human covenant war themed army with no elites. There’s sooooo much you could possibly do!!

[@FrogWizard224]

Honestly you might as well just use opr to tell that story yourself.

[@calebwasthere420]

What’s the rules on tea-bagging?

[@RolandTheJabberwocky]

That's cheap enough that I'm actually interested in it.

[@RtxtDriver]

Feels strangely bland that they took halo and decided that the multiplayer was what they were going to adapt so there’s no like elites or grunts which have really cool distinct visuals which would help at mini scale

[@Astartes40000]

there are 4 Sangheli elites in the Spartan edition box with playable rules. We don't have a lot of covenant yet but we have a little taste to start with..

[@DwarvenMoustache-ek3ok]

Also, is that one Lloyd Grossman? I as for Master Chef reasons.

[@AbenZin1]

Ooo I like that remix of Leela. Takes me back! Where's it from?

[@SnipeandWib]

From what I understand this version was on the original CDROM, but you could only hear it if you played it as an audio CD.

[@AbenZin1]

@@SnipeandWib Dang. 30 years and I hear bout this for the first time today!

[@WhatsUpGazpacho]

1:27 Very mindful. Very demure

[@pavma7]

So I like the miniatures a lot but the gameplay while pretty close to the real Multiplayer throws me off a bit.

[@bonebard6178]

when i heard there was going to be a halo wargame ill be honest i was hoping it would be human vs covenant with vehicles and all that

[@dracometeors3010]

Well this is a Test Run. 4 simple Sculpts for minimum loss if it's not gonna be successfull. Everything else is possible along the road.

[@legateelizabeth]

No but seriously why not just have one team be the elites? I know they have the moulds, they’re in other sets!

[@chuth2768]

fuck i want Pfhor minis. does anyone make pfhor minis

[@shmee123ful]

i just wish this was a proper wargame, like gw armys or manitcs own armys

[@landonmel3070]

1:38 SUCK IT BLUES!

[@CheapPerfume]

Ooooo 😮

[@JosephusHellyer]

wort wort wort

[@LordCHull]

Games like this or the Darktide board game just make me wonder why not just play the video game.

[@bigendaliver]

then why play bloodbowl? it has a videogame. or why play marvel crisis protocol? it has like a billion games. or why play star wars legion? lego star wars is cheaper. you see how you sound? because you sound like you're no fun to have at the gaming table.

[@tenletters5889]

They aren't intended to be 1:1 emulations of the videogames, they're their own experience. An FPS arena shooter plays inherently differently to a turn-based skirmish wargame. And even for games that can be made into 1:1 remakes it's just fun to have some physicality to it.

[@metalhammer303]

Hey some of us just want proxy minis for home brew games of kill team. Seeing a group of Spartans face up against a kill team of tau or chaos marines would be pretty cool you gotta admit

[@RubyGalaxyYT]

Good to hear that this game is fun, but saddly i wont' be picking it up until they reintroduce the REAL Spartan 4's in their proper gen 2 armour or unless someone makes mini's and rules of those then I'd be happy to pick this up with my brother.

[@tenletters5889]

I think you're the first person ever to not only prefer gen 2 but also sound like a Bungie fan in 2015 while doing it

[@RubyGalaxyYT]

@@tenletters5889 I kept the original comment short as to not drop the mood. Not sure how it came across as a bungie fan in 2015 as I never went to the forums. In short my problem with Gen 3 is that it's just refurbished gen 1 and reach armour, and this leads into dilluiting the different spartan generations so now you cant tell them apart, but yes I am aware from the get go that critisisim also applies to how Gen 2 was introduced. What I'm critiqing of the art direction is that it shouldn't repeat the same mistake with having all spartans wear the same suit style as it robs them of their individual characteristics and character fashion expression. An Ideal meet in the middle solution could have both generations be on screen at the same time with some upgrades to gen 1 to enjoy the benefits of gen 2. Gen 1 is more like a tank where as gen 2 is for speed.

[@nightfire734]

Ok now review the action clix.

[@Trisaart]

its such a shame that the models (comparatively to gw) are so low in detail, and pvc plastic is never a benefit

[@jjjjj4222]

I'm not a super detail fiend (actually prefer the modern Mantin/WGA/Warlord/North Star level of detail over a lot of current GW or other rather fiddly but highly detailed sculpts), but the PVC choice is pretty strange, has to be a money thing. Mantic seems to be slowly phasing out PVC in Kings of War, but that might just be a case of having higher quality materials for the flagship game is more economically viable

[@Trisaart]

@ as someone who’s main enjoyment comes from painting, its driven me away from playing several games simply due to me knowing i wont enjoy the experience with it being pvc plastic

[@jjjjj4222]

@Trisaart That's totally reasonable, I also own exactly 1 PVC kit and didn't enjoy it so avoid it even more than resin. Luckily for any Halo super fans, since it's based on deadzone I'm sure you could find all manner of NotSpartans, NotODST, and NotElites from various 3D printing services and just buy a Deadzone/Firefight rulebook and get the full Halo Flashpoint experience (minus weapon pickups presumably?)

[@ursinecanine9657]

Meh, scale is too big to use them as fancy basing material in 40k and my interest ends there.

[@fleetmastereddie6306]

I can't believe we lost ground command and fleet command for this