Endgame Worthy? - NovelKeys Creams x Kailh Switch Review

[@hamajineo]

Come join our discord! We have some new custom keyboard channels dedicated to help beginners and for people to discuss about all things keyboards! discord.gg/FctUrGc

[@DustinVang]

done!

[@g3nzo533]

@@Shadow360 he stopped.

[@g3nzo533]

@@Shadow360 playing.

[@sebsstuff7641]

I can’t get even

[@cwava6955]

I’m getting /making a custom keyboard cause of your videos

[@dwagincon4841]

It took half a year of being stuck at home to develop a keyboard-building addiction

[@chunkymilk1288]

I always knew they existed, but I never really had the drive to build one. Now, I’m waiting for my parts to arrive lol

[@marcusvowels6404]

ha ha same .

[@rsmaster5637]

@@chunkymilk1288 same

[@qualitycigs1461]

@@rsmaster5637 Same lmfao

[@kyleanderson2668]

Literally same

[@Glarses]

1:55 lmao

[@DustinVang]

I see you @glarses :)

[@ihatehumans5185]

i can’t escape you god damn

[@33s60]

@@Glarses Nk creams or gateron black inks?

[@NoahDoesTechThings]

@@33s60 inks are smoother

[@lyejingxuan9457]

Noah Bunis but inks are more expensive

[@yumeretta]

im thoroughly convinced that hamaji decided to make keyboard videos just so he could flex his typing skills

[@IInferno]

i mean, you're not wrong.

[@kyronconradj.7611]

why? I thought he was flexin his pinkies...

[@Wheezr]

“He’s too dangerous to be left alive”

[@rosesunflow9560]

If I became good at typing I'll try making keyboard videos as well

[@drownindesigner]

@@Wheezr UNLIMITED TYPING POWER

[@_zeix]

Thank you for highlighting how creams are not smooth at all before breaking in. It's always crazy to see how many newcomers buy it without doing proper research!

[@thumbwarriordx]

Smoother than cherrys. But there is something to it. They have a unique sort of high frequency resistance. It feels... I dunno, suede-like? Wax papery? At least compared to the gritty death I think of when I think of "scratchy" I can definitely still feel it on my numpad keys, but the main keys are lovely.

[@tsenohebot4853]

I was one of those people (saw tfue keeb vid and decided to build one), but after lubing and breaking in they are amazing, I might even dare say that they are endgame worthy

[@IInferno]

the new transitions are even cleaner than they used to be. im blown away.

[@ryxn8792]

wth y 25k likes but no replies?

[@ryanxu9983]

What transition

[@rks5457]

@@ryanxu9983 star wipes. On the real tho, Ive been noticing people use the term "transitions" more. It apparently devolved from just saying "editing" which probably specifically refers to the video fx.

[@muCephei_]

oh my wallet i'm getting deeper and deeper into the rabbit hole

[@BassAsLeaders]

Same

[@atomictamiya5337]

This is the kind of person who will notice the smallest noise change in a lightbulb

[@idk-or7gg]

i love they sound, they sound so good

[@nobodynv9786]

same

[@nozdoz4166]

Keep the reviews coming bro, we need more straight forward reviews like this as many switches as we can

[@aztroblue8097]

6:08 keyboard ASMR

[@V1c._.]

I’m glad I seen this, I almost wanted to cancel my order for my black ink switches but after seeing this video, I know my choice was a good one and I shouldn’t cancel to get the creams’. Thanks!

[@cheesesquack7036]

He went from my favorite tf-tuber to my favorite keyboard KZbinr

[@lovewiener]

You can't stop me from buying these for my first custom build

[@noskillant6168]

agreed. one mans opinion isnt gonna stray me away. Especially when hes comparing them to black ink v2s which are almost double the price aswell.

[@administrato]

@@noskillant6168 I’m about to buy it right now can’t wait 😝

[@baconboy-roblox1840]

@@noskillant6168 black inks are $0.75 and nk creams are $0.65...

[@sphon5905]

@@noskillant6168 black inks are cheaper by 10 dollars are you slow?

[@K_I_T_]

I love watching all this new and regular content, even though keyboards have never really been something I have been interested In. Honestly, your videos are so well made that you could make production on anything and it would still be engaging and professional. I hope to see more stuff like this in the future (and remember that your attention for detail and standard for high quality really shines).

[@gust321able]

I love the scratchy sound. Like biting on an apple.

[@thumbwarriordx]

That's probably the best description of it I've heard lol

[@kraber9817]

Hey Hamaji! I used to watch you for your old tf2 stuff. I had heard you moved on to different things, and at first I assumed other games. You can then imagine my suprise when my brother got into keyboard making and bought these exact keys and switches. I asked him why he wanted these specific ones and he redirected me to this video. Super well edited as always. Hope you do well!

[@brdon2099]

I’m really late but that’s sick haha

[@KeebSound]

This switch is clean and love the sound 👌

[@brdon2099]

It’s dog shit lmfao get blockdd

[@frizuo]

You're pretty good at being a tech channel, you might've found your thing :)

[@hamajineo]

Still got a lot to learn

[@liam-zn1cm]

@@hamajineo yes but i think you should continue with it im looking for as good keyboard maximum 100$

[@excaliber2845]

@@liam-zn1cm gk61

[@komi9261]

@@liam-zn1cm sk64s

[@aaryanvarshney7909]

@@hamajineo Calling kb youtunebers tech channels is like calling instagram strippers "models" like are you really?? think what you wish. Still like the vids tho

[@ducky4238]

Yknow when I need a new keyboard I’m going straight to hamaji

[@xiangxp]

In my opinion, POM switches get way smoother after at least two months’ use. I have been running Creams on my think65 for 6 months now and I have zero complaints about them at all.

[@dar7279]

but compared to things like c3 alpacas or inks. creams for sure not worth it

[@josefaguilar2955]

Alpacas are slightly overrated. The stems don't latch on the keycaps very well and I've had instances where caps fell off of the stem during transportation. The Self lubrication is why Creams need to be broken in.

[@thumbwarriordx]

@@dar7279 if they're available on the spot I'd say they're worth it. I wouldn't recommend waiting for restock over these though.

[@profanecreation1997]

I used them heavily stock for like 4 months and yes, they do indeed clean up quite a bit over time. Just be patient before lubing and you will be rewarded.

[@HugoKeys]

Wow, this is probably the best tech review bro style video that actually goes in depth and isn't surface level. Il be keeping my eye open for more like this.

[@DustinVang]

Well done on this video. I myself with creams thought they are amazing after a break-in. they take time to get perfect. The only thing is a lot of newer people are going to be getting these without understanding spring weights, scratchiness and sound.

[@Hazza_05]

being one of those new people, is there a switch that has similar sound to the novelkey creams excepts doesn't bottom out so low?

[@sparksun]

Harry Edmund Townsend ink blacks I guess

[@justinedzard]

I have a question, do you lube your NK Creams before or after break in?

[@sparksun]

@@justinedzard lube all your switches except for creams break them in then lube them all the switches sound so good after lubing them

[@burhymnswerth7409]

Why did you delete your hamajicraft videos? It was a good replacement for me since you arent doing tf2 content anymore

[@iamonlyshallow]

He moved them to his second channel

[@Harbosa]

I just had these in my head and I got this video recommended

[@mk177]

Follow the white rabbit

[@hugohollevoet2489]

kind of weird how this switchs is fully made out of a 'low friction' plastic but ended up being one of the scratchiest switches

[@MaybeTiberius]

i have some creams here since i collect switches for switch testers and stuff and my honest oppinion: they are not worth it. Can they be good? yeah probably. But they simply cant compete. This pom on pom is driving me insane. They are scratchy as hell stock. If you lube them, they feel like leather...sticky because you need to break them in FIRST before lubing... so you probably need another hotswap keyboard just to break them in and all of this hussle to go through... like why? Black inks are way smoother, work out of the box, no break in, you just lube them and you re done. And the Price difference is really small too. Or you could go with something like the Durock L7 Linears wich are even cheaper than creams and on par with smoothness with the inks and have ZERO wobble because of tighter housings compared to gateron. Only downside is that durocks are prelubed so you have to clean them first. but IF you want creams none the less: do yourself a favour and buy marketplace used creams so you dont need to break them in

[@eisaahmed5653]

Yeh, but what switch sounds like the creams plus the creams are unique to many other switches out there. Durock l7s aren't similar go creams and durock pom linear switches aren't like creams I own creams and poms I'm looking for alternatives to creams. Also, inks are way too heavy for some people including me. Creams and inks aren't alike at all so why compare.

[@Nivengoh]

Great explanation for those who are new the the keyboard scene. But I would argue even before Taeha video on TFUE keyboard Novel cream was already pretty popular among the keyboard community. Everyone know's its flaws of being a scratchy AF switch without lubing and yet after lube it is actually one of the better sound/feel linear switches with its lower tone thocc sound.

[@theskyrack6433]

They sound and feel a million times better if you break them in first!! The sound is almost night and day, after two weeks of use compared to brand new switches!

[@ajyu7289]

i love listening to hamaji explain keyboard stuff

[@hydra6227]

at 3:00 "pbt mounted" :thinking:

[@LoverKittey]

After having my creams since before this video came out, never lubing them, they got significantly smoother over time, to the point i almost prefer them to Razer's optoelectric switches.

[@xchclow]

it got so scratchy when it is all new! what if i lubed them :c. any difference after long use?

[@LoverKittey]

@@xchclow Well lube also wears down over time and could leach into certain plastics. I don't think POM has this problem, but I did put switch films on mine and that tightened up the key travel enough to be bearable, and not wobbly, constantly scratching the sides.

[@vsynccx4263]

@@LoverKittey 7 months later but im still considering buying novelkeys creams have you changed your opinion on them? Also do you think I need to lube them looks complicated and I don't want to screw anything up.

[@jacoblee9300]

dude i acually love your vids you inspiered me to make my own keyboad and you explain everything well. well done keep it up

[@kashikoto9594]

I’ve been using my creams for about a month and a half. I actually thought I wasted my money on the first day. Although after a month of using it, it’s comparable to my turquoise tealios but it sounds way better than the tealios

[@thumbwarriordx]

They get quite a lot better. I dstill like something about the feel of the less used keys on my board, but it wasn't a welcome feeling for regular typing.

[@EngiDaPoot]

İ never thought you would become a keyboard channel

[@sj-st7et]

wait what was he before?

[@EngiDaPoot]

@@sj-st7et he was mainly a Team fortress 2 youtuber

[@sj-st7et]

@@EngiDaPoot oh wow I never knew thanks for filling me in

[@EngiDaPoot]

@@sj-st7et :D

[@sellbythepound5382]

My lubed creams in the Ducky one three feels amazing. (coming from lubed browns in a Ducky one two)

[@gaogoh8312]

This channel became a keyboard review channel

[@mikedingus3761]

the fact that it focused on him after he said clarify was amazing

[@Krimghor]

Only thing I disagree about here is the sound. But I guess that’s a personal preference thing. I think creams are 10/10 sound. Smoothness leaves something to be desired though. Built my keeb about a month ago, so hopefully with age they break in and get smoother

[@cardbored_]

Have they broken in? Curious. I got some in an NK mystery switch bag, I typically run Zeal switches in my boards but figured I'd give these a try. They feel much "bouncier" than what I'm used to, maybe that's because I'm typically a tactile guy? They DO feel scratchy as well, did they "self lubricate"?

[@saccmans4974]

@@cardbored_ pm

[@eekee3]

6:00 sooooo scratchy omg

[@Toneychaplin]

I think this switch gets better with age. I’ve lived them, however when I have used them for months they are super smooth now. This switch requires some mileage but it’s great when you get there.

[@bottlefox]

Hi, by breaking it in, does it mean to keep typing on it after you lubed it or do you have to break them in pre-lubing?

[@thumbwarriordx]

@@bottlefox They'll get better either way but TBH there's literally no way I'd break in a switch, pull it out, lube it and reinstall it. I didn't lube mine and what I'm regretting is just the spring sound. Smoothness and sound otherwise is good 4 months in. Just lube them from the start TBH.

[@Aggrofool]

If you really want smooth linears, just use optical or hall effect switches. Anything contactless blows lubed Tealios out of the water.

[@dfsstuff6572]

Optical switches are the worst thing created by humanity. Their wobble can't be fixed by putting a switch film between parts of the housing bevause their wobble is caused by the lack of pins, thus lack of any stability in the plate.

[@goucey]

Your videos about keyboards are very interesting and enjoyable to watch. Please do more videos about keyboards,keep up the good work.

[@saltyjr3796]

I like how he just casually changes his shirt on the go in between cuts. Vehri naise.

[@albertsaquatics3708]

personally i like the scratch noise

[@mcbrite]

Amazing, I spent COUNTLESS HOURS on all kinds of keeb shops, sites, discords whatever... And it took to this video for ANYONE to mention what the differences between the materials are... That's after 3 orders of different switches (Gateron Pro Silver V2, Choc Sunsets, Chocs key Tester), a split keyboard set and and and for my build. Thanks!

[@Nopester_]

You gotta break them in first, then they feel buttery smooth

[@zasler7217]

Hhhh Hhhh rather get tangerine switches with a similar price which is the smoothest switches i have used out of box

[@varocal8514]

break them in how?

[@Benedyktino]

Ace_Panda gat yellow milky housing or ink black

[@thumbwarriordx]

I always intended to get them since they were new. Didn't end up bothering until 2020, and TBH I don't appreciate how much longer I had to wait after putting it off for so long due to stock/shipping etc. I could have just as easily settled for the Gateron Yellows and been perfectly happy. I wouldn't consider them scratchy at all though. You really have to be pressing them a certain way to have that effect. Once in a plate, pressed at speed they're smooth like buttah, sound great and have an ideal actuation force for my tastes.

[@ProFilipino91]

Hey man! Love your keyboard content! Thats why I subbed lol

[@gimbly8801]

Greetings hamski, been consistent on the keyboard contents I see. Keep it up.

[@theokaypot42]

I don’t know anything about keyboards but you make these so entertaining

[@hamajineo]

lmk if u wanna get into them ;)

[@theokaypot42]

Hamaji Neo I can’t get into them now cause I don’t have a job yet, I might wanna try in the future though

[@sammcnally0]

I just finished building my first custom keyboard 10 minutes ago with the creams and they feel really nice

[@theosullivan2292]

they'll feel even nicer when you break them in

[@hvrst6241]

How nice it is now?

[@sammcnally0]

@@hvrst6241 yeah it’s still really smooth and responsive

[@lewc7389]

i dont understand a thing but i love it

[@ok2full]

that tfue taeha build is why everything is impossible to find in stock including all budget build options. i remember when novel keys had stock for weeks in budget build options now you're lucky if you can even get on a list.

[@lyejingxuan9457]

It’s really hard to notice the scratching on the creams, if you sit a reasonable like 40cm away from your keyboard. However, once they’re lived and broken into, oh boy those switches are BUT-ERY. They feel so good, especially after 2 to 3 weeks of using. The sound amazing too, as you could tell by taeha’a videos. Tbh, I really would recommend this switch, it just has to be used for some time before it actually feels really good.

[@justinedzard]

If you lube them, will they still be broken in? or do you have to use them unlubed first, and then lube them after being broken into?

[@lyejingxuan9457]

@@justinedzard yep, you should lube them first, and it doesnt affect if it will or will not be broken in. Also if u do buy it just lube it first. They are incredibly scratchy when not lubed

[@justinedzard]

@@lyejingxuan9457 Thank you so much for the info, just bought myself some creams and I don't wanna step in the wrong direction

[@n8te977]

I love your keyboard content :)

[@lettucelemonade3825]

Novelkeys creams are not worth it, but they are worth it if you are willing to use them for 1 - 3 months. They get better over time but I still think peeps should just buy gat yellows. Or frankensteining creamy yellows

[@devinrr]

Also gat inks if you have the money for that

[@scope7685]

Do i have to lub gat optical yellow?

[@lettucelemonade3825]

@@scope7685 yes, after lubing they will feel more polished

[@scope7685]

@@lettucelemonade3825is lubing optical switches is the same as regular gat lubing?

[@lettucelemonade3825]

@@scope7685 same procedure, just remember that less is more

[@leo-ub6nb]

I think a lot of people, mainly those who are fairly new to custom keyboards, are after that thocc sound, and are forgetting about the experience and feel when pressing the keys. It's like cars. You can buy the fastest car in the world, but you may feel disconnected from the feel of the road and the full driving experience. Whereas if you were to buy a cheap Miata, you'll have one of the best driving experiences, the feel of the road and how the car is reacting to the road. It doesn't feel dull and lifeless. The NK Creams, from what I've seen from reviewers and most enthusiasts, is that they are kind of overrated. Not saying they aren't good or decent, just that they might not be what you thought they were or what you imagined what it would be like.

[@jtechmkb]

I'm going to try this soon! thanks for this video. Great job! Subscribed as well. :)

[@hucklejoko4838]

Just another channel being a keyboard channel AND I LOVE IT!

[@danielhu9432]

1:30 while I think this gets the idea, this isn't right. For Zeal/Gateron, neither of their housings are made out of Polycarb, rather a mixture of plastics that are kept a secret. I'm actually not quite sure what cherry housings are made out of as those seem to be a secret too. Generally though, nylon is used for bottoms, and polycarb for tops.

[@panes4572]

I got an outemu blue keyboard a bit ago, these vids were really useful when looking for a keyboard that were decent for everything. These are really fun.

[@largevapor]

I have an outemu blue too, it feels good. What’s your kbs brand?

[@panes4572]

@@largevapor Motospeed

[@reggieh6038]

i kinda like the scratchy lubed NK switches they sound like two matt colour coated plastic rubbing together.

[@tranleon3]

I got mine from my novel keys mysteryswitch box so I'm not complaining

[@dest6715]

The sound test sound like Mr. Krabs walking

[@borastadie1657]

Hey Hamaji! I would recommend you to suggest some other (better) switches at the end of the video in the future. (The same for any other kind of review) And bc you didn't do that in the vid could you suggest some good linear switches here?

[@adrestiaeagerton4069]

i'm not him but i have some recommendation for you Durock Alpaca Durock Silent Dolphin (if you are into silent switches) Any Durock/JWK Linear Gateron Black Ink Gateron Yellow (Popular budget option)

[@daksheshgupta7045]

@@adrestiaeagerton4069 Alpaca is where the good stuffs at

[@berumeru]

I can't help but notice how many times you change shirts.... LOL

[@udon601]

i think that this is one of the fewer switches that i would recommend a thicker lube for. The seller i bought the lube from accidentally sent me 205g2 instead of g0 (amogus) and the scratchiness is there, but not bad at all. The thicker lube also gives it a lower, thoccier sound. The bottom out is also really thoccy. Also, when broken in they sound and feel really smooth. I would also recommend thicker keycaps for a deeper sound.

[@tywells6024]

as someone who owns creams that are officially worn in (owned since 2019 lul) I can definitely speak on behalf of how they feel "worn in" versus brand new. if there was a way for these to be sold in their "worn in" condition I'd buy even more for future builds. Overall depending on the type of keycaps you're running (you definitely want a thicker keycap) as well as case material/plate material these can sound really great as well as feel even greater once worn in.

[@yurto831]

How long did it take wear in?

[@tywells6024]

@@yurto831 From my understanding about 10k presses per switch. If you really want to, what I did, is press each key 50-100 times a day. Honestly depends on how much you type/how you use your board but if you go out of your way to press each key it helps speed the process up. Can’t really recall how long it took me though.

[@george8920]

after seeing so many negative things about NK creams I was hesitant - But I went ahead anyway and got myself some - I've been using Tealios for about 2 years - after some Lube - the Creams are easily my new FAVE switches - leagues and bounds above Tealios in sound and feel - I LOVE the spring in the Creams and the sound is second to none - they are not as smooth as the Tealios but sound and feel and typing satisfaction are on another level - Creams ROCK !!!

[@chedd2y]

Absolutely loving the new content man, keep it up

[@rainer2092]

love my gat yellows, I keep them stock cause I like the sound. I've been thinking about getting a keyboard with cream switches so thanks man!

[@shankararao2617]

Love your stuff Hamaji, btw thinking of doing the exact same build as the one with gmk 8008!

[@DrBrovahkiin]

Spring swapped Creams are some of my favorite switches. The 70g bottom out is just too much when you're holding W all the time. My fingers were legit getting tired. Swapping them to 50g TX springs and giving them a generous lube job makes them one of the best sounding switches. Someone said it on the Taeha sound video but they almost sound like Mr Krabs walking lmao

[@chris.breadman]

Question. Did you take the 14mm or 16mm springs?

[@DrBrovahkiin]

@@chris.breadman not sure. If they don't list it on the Tx Website then I have no idea

[@chris.breadman]

@@DrBrovahkiin yeah they have to types 14mm or 16mm. Wanted to know if you know which one you got?

[@Tuegay123]

@@chris.breadman and he never replied.....

[@uwaa4467]

3:55 hehe _gateron yelluws_

[@captainmggabeau397]

Gateron optical blacks are quite nice.

[@cataca91]

would love to see swithes made out of peek, it will be expensive but pretty interesting

[@Roux-yg1rs]

I spring swap mine to a 62 grams spring and ooohhh boy I don't hate it anymore

[@tklresearchclub8736]

I’m running these dry on my mode 80 it makes me smile they feel like them old keyboards I would use in middle school scratchy AF definitely need to be lubed

[@BananaPieWithAnxiety]

it sounds really nice!

[@c0mpuipf]

typing this from omnipoint switches and i'm feeling reassured

[@xuanbachpham9752]

Typing this from Gateron Optical Silver switches and I'm feeling reassured, too.

[@thatonedom1928]

I love these keyboard videos I love how your so passionate about such a small community I also have a question I’m trying to build a very nice custom keyboard for around 250$ can you tell me some good linear switches?

[@hamajineo]

Gonna be testing out the gateron yellows soon but I’d always recommend gateron black inks :)

[@ExabyteAU]

Gateron red inks are also awesome if you like a slightly lighter switch. I have a keyboard that supports optical switches so if you have a keyboard like mine, then the Gateron optical series are amazing and pretty smooth out the box, but can be improved significantly with lube!

[@thatonedom1928]

Yeah I use a huntsman te rn which isn’t even a bad keyboard it’s just I like very heavy searches and the stableisers are very rattly

[@AkumaW]

why do i kinda like the scratchyness

[@dylankristensen2858]

i just got mine! They are so worth it if you lube them

[@dylankristensen2858]

Also i wrote this comment before i saw the video so i just saw he literally said it in the video

[@atomayplay8401]

I actually like the scratchiness of the NK Creams

[@mrunknown1644]

Hey I was wondering if you were going to continue the 10 stages of a tf2 mains or not

[@S3w3rSh4rk0]

Sadly he quited tf2 ;-; i still watch him tho

[@fermatia4010]

I don't get why people like you don't have more subs anyways thanks for showing me the world of keyboards now that I watch you i realise how bad my keyboard is bad but hey a keyboard is a keyboard and you gotta love it even tho it can be bad anyways see ya in the other videos

[@TapThatBootie]

Same, I'd rather use gateron black inks rather than the creams

[@eliasvaly2273]

I don't really care about scrathiness, so I am exited to try these out.

[@HappyJazzLover]

Me, with $20 keyboard: The heck i`m even doin` here? '^'

[@Zhextel]

You will be $200 deep into keyboards before next year if you keep watching these videos xD

[@HappyJazzLover]

@@Zhextel Damn, okay xD

[@hvrst6241]

@@HappyJazzLover have you get custom one? (I haven't cuz i'm broke)

[@HappyJazzLover]

@@hvrst6241 Nah, but I'm planning to get one on Christmas sales.

[@HappyJazzLover]

@@hvrst6241 Nah, but I'm planning to get one on Christmas sales.

[@SubterraneanChick]

Honestly, any switches you purchase outside a board, you are likely going lube-up, especially on a custom, non-HS kb. Gotta.

[@wentlle77]

The fact they are increasing the price

[@o.oswift181]

I wont lie I came from taeha type's vid and recently just bought my first batch of swtiches( KIWIS) I like the sound of the tactility and price is good

[@TheStaniG]

Came here for the Creams.... left here with the Gateron Blacks lol.

[@Nekaiii]

this man makes me wanna start a business on just buying keyboards and stuff and everything else to test and use em

[@Stackali]

the black in and creams sound the same to me. at least in your video.

[@jelee7690]

You guys don't get it. Do you? The scratchness and the distinct hollow pong sound when it bounce back from the bottoming give the switch a character. What you want from a switch is a character, not the ultimate smoothness. The ultimate smoothness is boring and tasteless.

[@sureshpatro4153]

I like the way these switches sound like they smooth the way down just can't find any keycaps that like have that click sound.

[@nicodoesedits6124]

This guy’s a straight scientist