Hancock w/ Colaiuta - "Actual Proof" - Jazz á Vienne '08

[@declanhayden]

Wow... This is what’s up! Chris Potter’s solo was fresh air. So nice in context.

[@JamesOKlippel]

Dude Herbie is on something else here.. love it. This is one of those tunes where it's almost a game of hide and seek with the form...

[@Storyfilms1]

next level - it doesn't get more sophisticated than this.

[@bigstef2010]

Vinnie was on fire !!! awesome !!!!

[@brian07470]

When is he NOT! LOL!! 🤣🤣

[@philipcameron3784]

They are all on fire burning the house down lol

[@bear2972]

Some say it’s a mess but Vinnie and that bass player are 100% together, flowing through the form. A tight rhythm section can allow a soloist to dance around like that. They wouldn’t often play like this in a studio recording. When you’re live, it’s all good.

[@Erschophone]

"That bass player" … JFC Sorry bub, you've got to go to school…

[@olcique]

That bass player... OMG you are so lost...

[@MichaelEllis-ig8dj]

Yes sir. These guys are cooking. Vinnie is truly phenomenal.

[@Examigan]

Awesome! Vinnie is from another planet.

[@jeffreyardziejewski2547]

Vinnie is just crushing it so hard!!! Only a handful of peeps that can comp like that. Straight from the liver.

[@pfx6852]

que enfermos. herbie es un genio, los llevó a la locura a todos

[@marvinmercadomusic7]

Woah 😮 Hancock has an Iron fingers and Vinnie, well two monster of the Jazz

[@philipcameron3784]

Mind blowing . Awesome. I could listen to this a million times

[@rlbrett]

Herbie may be the Mayor but Vinnie, as always, is directing the traffic.

[@brian07470]

Are these guys kidding me with this???? Holy Crap...

[@rhythmicbeast]

Phenomenal music, phenomenal drummer❤🔥🔥🔥❤️❤️🔥😂🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁🥁

[@DevaPermanaDrums]

My goodness!! thank you for sharing this

[@theavenger3363]

Smokin’ the fuck out of it …

[@HermesTheMessenger]

😮😮😮🎉🎉🎉 OMG!

[@tomreschke80]

holy shit

[@josephgiarraffa6379]

It’s Chic and Herbie for me Vinnie well he’s the best

[@bojohnbonham]

How loud is Vinnie??? Jesus

[@robbinsdalehamradioshow976]

too loud

[@noelghallager4672]

vinnie's on one

[@vincentquattrocchi7924]

Just when you think you're getting better on your instrument, Then you watch this s*** and you're put back into check. Unbelievable!🤣😂🎹🥁🎸🎷🎸🎼🎵🎶

[@musopaul5407]

Full of sound and fury....

[@samferguson230]

a tale told by an idiot, signifying nothing? are you making a comment about the blustering inanity of this performance? or are you down with v?

[@musopaul5407]

@@samferguson230 Ha, another drummer who knows his Shakey! I don't think there are too many of us.... It's blustering inanity all the way, I'm sorry to say. I have been a huge fan of Vinnie, and I still think that if there is a "best drummer in the world", few people could have as good a claim to it as he does. That said, you can't do as much coke and smoke as many ciggies as Vinnie has without it taking a toll. Up til the early 2000s he just kept getting better, more refined, cleaner, groovier, but since then, there has been too much heaviness and bluster (good word). He always had a tendency to overplay, (virtuosos will do that, after all) but I no longer hear any of the subtlety he once had. Someone put up a great observation about Vinnie on a thread somewhere; "What must it be like to be such a great drummer in a musically inconsequential age?". Buddy Rich became a caricature of himself in his later years, perhaps that's what is happening to Vinnie.

[@NN-ul4oy]

@@musopaul5407 This song is made for excesses! Yes, maybe he changed some methods in his style. Just get to the age of Vinnie and see how much power you have left! Billy Cobham, Lenny White, Rayford Griffin, look at them how they lost their power! It is hard to turn old as a drummer when you are doing more then Beatles cover. Vinnie is still there for some reason and enjoying himself. I love it!

[@musopaul5407]

@@NN-ul4oy Fair enough

[@miedhi]

It’s as if aliens descended

[@MXO-EVENTI-TV]

👍

[@michaelpowell7120]

Mike Clark did not play a drum solo........................VINAIGRETTE?

[@bobkalkman4739]

Damn, how is the sax player supposed to follow that?

[@Erschophone]

Simple. Decades of work… and playing lots of Jazz… You could play nothing but Funk for 40 years and never be able to hang with these musicians. Funk is the preacher but Jazz is the teacher…

[@dannylaverdedrums]

Yo, that intro…😝

[@willardtheband]

I have actual proof too. Cough*Hack

[@leoinstatenisland]

His playing is great. Just a terrible mix. It probably sounded good on stage.

[@bobkalkman4739]

Jesus Christ! (referring to Vinnie....)

[@olcique]

Actual Proof of when drummer drinks way too much coffee...

[@killmoreturtles]

Eh, I don't care what anyone else says.... a lot of this just sounds like a jumbled mess; in the "free -flowing" parts, especially Herbie is driving it, and everyone else is supposed to be on his chaotic page. I'm not saying it can't be followed and there is no "one", but it's definitely a bit too jumbled for my liking. I guess you had to be there (and sometimes that is necessary to enjoy jazz like that)

[@user-np2td3lg7t]

I actually love how raw it is, they really go outside of the box with the rhythm of the changes. It’s easily one of them most creative versions of the tune I’ve ever heard

[@joepool60]

Im Glad You Said It. I didnt have The Balls.A Bit Much For Me,Right on The Edge! And I Lov Vin. Ive Been Playing for 50 yrs, But Damn!

[@killmoreturtles]

@@joepool60 Heh, yeah. I play drums, too. I LOVE overplaying, but sometimes even the best are so consumed with what they're doing that they're not " in flow" with the others. It's all good.. love Vinnie.. and it's REALLLY hard to ALWAYS be on.. and even the best aren't always in the mood to play or feel it properly. That style of music, especially when playing with Herbie, is so free flowing, that if you're not feeling it that night and feeling creative, it's just going to come out jumbled. It seemed like Herbie was trying to get his attention a few times and saying ' wooah, slow it down my hyped friend' , but vinnie was off in his own world :-) All good.. Vinnie is top 3 in my book

[@larrytate1657]

@@killmoreturtles Vinnie also is incredibly controlled in much of his other stuff. This was the idea to kinda let loose here Vinnie said.

[@RogerBiwandu]

@@killmoreturtles It's not overplaying, it's an art, a form of musical expression, they are not playing for impressing people like we do/did when we were teens, and like you said, it's maybe not for everybody depending of your mood, I can understand.

[@Junglesmells]

Vinnie ruins it

[@doctorgarbonzo2525]

All due respect to Vinnie, Little too heavy

[@NN-ul4oy]

No. Look, how happy Herbie and Dave look at Vinnie.

[@cablemanagement1524]

yeah and also Hancock hired Vinnie a lot to do the same thing, because there's so much footage of him doing playing this way with him. with like 3 seperate bass players. so clearly he is doing something Hancock likes

[@jazzyeric21]

I have all the respect in the world for Herbie but I hated his solo this time around.

[@robbinsdalehamradioshow976]

you sure it wasnt the bombastic drumming??

[@gustovero]

I really love Vinnie Colaiuta, but this is plain simply overplayed: no groove and no connection with poor Dave Holland.

[@dokproduction9881]

Untrue.. Dave & Vinnie ARE connected as always. Smiles on their faces prooves they had fun together! As far as the other members of that amazing band. If there was no groove and no connection between them, do you think Herbie Hancock would have hired these musicians? ;)

[@TheMightyKingzuru]

Since when did you become a better Jazzman than Herbie?

[@blacjazzz]

Have to agree with you. That tune has an edge to it because there is still space in it when it’s played a little more simply. Love Vinnie but it was too much right off the bat. Build to that complexity then strip it down. With Mike and Paul and many who played it after that, you could still hear feel the pulse cuz there was space. I don’t hear or feel it here

[@NN-ul4oy]

No. No. No. It is not overplayed. It has groove. It has connection. It is interesting when a known song is getting a new version. And what a powerful one! All of them, not only Vinnie, have a blast! And if not in this song, in which song then should Vinnie show what he can? Last time he was allowed to do that was with Zappa. So, stick to the old versions, if that is your taste, but don't tell nonsense about this version.

[@o0junglist0o93]

No groove 😂 funny

[@fimpudentdotcom]

I prefer the groove of Mike Clarck on this song

[@doctorgarbonzo2525]

The '74 Original is tops! Mike's groove is deeper the the Grand Canyon, Would Love to hear Weckl's rendition