Hand Swaged Bullets...Taking casting to the next level

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[@UpcomingJedi]

So THIS is how they make cartoon bullets where the WHOLE cartridge comes out.

[@zubirhusein]

Wait...so those cases are the actual projectiles?

[@Acecool]

Just came across this video; did you ever get a chance to make a follow-up video with you shooting these?

[@GunWebsites]

Awesome video.. you do good work, both on the ammo and with the camera, thanks for posting Looking forward to the range tests

[@duemamay]

i've seen these many times before but thanks for loading them i never saw these swaged bullets loaded before so this is a first.

[@cadrician]

Like the subject, can wait to see the follow up. Nice job, the quality of video and lightning is great!

[@KurtOnoIR]

I've seen this before with.22 brass to make .223 jackets, is there a casing we could use for .30 cal?

[@smh9902]

I want to see some ballistics tests of these badass little bullets!

[@thetobaccoguy1751]

At least someone finally found a good use for all this shitty .40 caliber brass.

[@TurboMitsubishi]

That's cool as hell! I just got into reloading... Now it looks like I might be about to get into casting, ok who are we kidding I was already planning too hence the range scrap lead I reclaimed... But that's not the point this just motivated me even more!

[@dibdevlon]

Hey thanks. I have alot of 40 brass that I have no use for but that now appears to have changed :). Thanks again for the vid.

[@ar-gaming9014]

could you swage a swaged 9mm into a 40 the swage that and load into a 45 acp?

[@jorgejalaf1786]

We swaged a swag so you can swaged swag while you swag !

[@Kronnkk]

does yor H&K barrel have polygonal rifling ? was wondering if tested against another barrelwhith ,or whithout poly riffling what you would think

[@EricKPoorManPrepper]

That is very very cool and quit ingenious,.. Like to know what kind of ballistics this produces,..are it's properties similar to a standard hollow point? great video

[@ANMLgaming]

do you melt brass down and cast it to make the jackets?

[@imperialfragments]

very neat. what are the particular benefits of swaging?

[@daywalker627]

@6satan6ist6 just being able to make your own jacketed bullets. It is another skill one can have so when shortages and things like that happen, you can still make a jacketed bullet. It costs me 8.00 per 100 bullets I make. Since swaging, I have not had to buy bullets to load. For me, its saving money.

[@ingloriousbuddah]

does the brass jacket damage your pistols rifeling?

[@jackington5183]

i'm interested in if these will affect your barrel in any way (mainly premature wear) as the metal engaging the rifling is brass and not the usual copper and isn't brass a more "aggressive" metal compared to copper when it comes to friction and wear?

[@sjeverett75]

brass is still softer than steel

[@boxfoxreyes9950]

It should be fine because the brass had been annealed in order to swage the bullet

[@BG-ww5lg]

Softer metal + a new barrel is part of shooting if you shoot a lot. A couple hundred for a barrel is not a big deal if it takes $5000 in ammo to wear it out ( its likely more like 50,000 rounds +)

[@interstellarsurfer]

Hey dawg, I heard you like reloading, so I got some brass for your brass, so you can reload while you're reloading.

[@DJ8017]

+iTheGeek It made perfect sense, and it was very funny.

[@beardedbowhunter6139]

iTheGeek obviously you have never seen an episode of "Pimp My Ride". Not that you're missing much, but at least you would get the reference.

[@Emery98]

Can't wait for the range test.

[@domdomdidity]

How well would these work with HI Point rifle? what kind of game could you bag with that type of round?

[@KeeperOfTheOath]

I wouldn't use copper pipe with both ends open (like you'd have to on a JHP made with the swager) due to case slippage, I've had plenty of chances to laugh at my buddies who were shooting their 'special' deer bullets, (dum-dums with the tip cut off,) and had the lead core jump out of the copper jacket, most hollow points jacket wraps around the bottom to prevent that, maybe if you used a torch to fuse the lead to the case it'd hold together...

[@daywalker627]

Thanks Eric. Hope they shoot well for you. I need to work on some different powders myself to increase the accuracy from my handgun. Also just to let ya know, these was bought from CH4D, I can not afford corbins, wish I could, these swage dies run you 129 and some change so it is not a bad price to get you into swaging. Good luck with them!!

[@Breakneckhydra1]

@zerinhodaft LoL a DIED laughing at the "frog in the throat!" HAHA

[@daregu]

would be interesting to see what those do to some ballistic jell.

[@KeeperOfTheOath]

could you use small diameter copper pipe end cap for this? I'd hate to waste good brass,

[@dominic0147]

how do they shoot? the rim would cut down on aerodynamics a bit

[@brightestdarkest987]

I wonder if I can do this for .50 BMG.

[@daywalker627]

@pukkepop They are very accurate. Curious as to why you do not see how these can not be? Are you thinking because of the ejector groove still on the case at the head? Believe it or not, that has no affect on it whatsoever. I have seen some great accuracy from other shooters. My problem, I have not found the right load combination for my handgun..

[@texpatriot8462]

Did KZbin take down all your casting videos?

[@daywalker627]

@dibdevlon I read about these over at cast boolits when I was looking to get into swaging. The idea has been around for years. Just like most things, it had died out. There are numerous calibers you can swage for using different cases for the jackets. Once you find the right bullet, powder combination, these are accurate. There are a few guys over at cast boolits using these in competition matches..

[@Marine052191]

That is crazy awesome!

[@xcalibre222]

Sweet. TY

[@Igotknobblies]

How well does the brass engage with the rifling. It's harder than copper or lead so are you getting issues with high pressures, undue wear on the rifling etc....

[@robertbrandywine]

Brass is an alloy of copper and zinc. They make all copper bullets and all zinc bullets, so why should this alloy hurt anything?

[@Igotknobblies]

@@robertbrandywine iron is soft. So is carbon. Make an alloy from them, you get steel. See where I'm coming from?

[@Igotknobblies]

@@robertbrandywine I just googled it. Copper hardness (brinell) 35, zinc 73, brass very soft but up to 155 so do your checks.....

[@robertbrandywine]

@@Igotknobblies I considered that, but carbon is a non-metal, so that makes me think that metal-non-metal combo doesn't really tell you anything about copper zinc mixes.

[@fastbuckink]

have you checked out any of ammosmith's videos

[@MahDixiNormas]

wouldnt the hole cause massive wind resistance?

[@daywalker627]

@KeeperOfTheOath You can use copper pipe. When my lathe comes in, I am going to work on making a set of jacket making dies to use coper pipe as a jacket. I am not sure about an end cap, you cold gas check then use the copper pipe. You could just leave the base open like factories fmj's as well.

[@daywalker627]

@ShawnCFarm yes, there are some other guys doing this for their 40's. I also do this for my 44 magnum as well. I thought I sent some to him for his 44, may have to if I have not yet.

[@omgiTsmeJon]

thats a hell of a bullet, copper, lead and brass in one

[@willsmith6560]

Did he make a test video

[@k5blaze84]

Your video quality has gotten so much better over the years! Still good info though

[@dibdevlon]

@daywalker627 Where did you get the idea from. Finally a use for a pathetic round(40sw). Very, very intriguing.

[@huntwithairguns]

These would be neat to try in my muzzleloader for deer hunting...

[@HalfMeltingEyes]

Extremely interesting stuff. :u Can not wait to see results.

[@mikeatfraxa]

Just surfing around---interesting to see how polymer coating has rendered swaging essentially obsolete. You can now cast any kind of crappy range scrap and coat it in Hi Tek and it will shoot at least as well as all these equipment- and labor-intensive bullets.

[@iluvthetrollin]

+General Thunder It wont become obsolete for industry, but for home cast pistol calibers swaging is obsolete, and poly coating offers all the benefits without all the labor that swaging does.

[@sjeverett75]

swaging rifle bullets will still allow higher velocities than powder coating.

[@spapi3880]

iTheGeek a ton of people and bullet makers use hi tek coatings. Just do a search on youtube and you’ll find 50+. I shoot bayou bullets which are coated.

[@chadhaleshales8124]

Hi Eric. My grandfather was really big into reloading. when he passed he left me all of his equipment. He had thousands of these swedged .22 cal bullets, would it be ok and to load these bullets for my AR if so what kind of powder should I look at getting?

[@abelyao4531]

Abidjan. net

[@ShawnCFarm]

I like it. Now could you not load for 40 s&w the same way using a 9mm luger spent casing? i'm thinging yes

[@johnmorgan2099]

What ever happened to the other testing

[@ramzeymoore851]

swag

[@dailer350]

хорошая идея, надо будет попробовать

[@TheFirearmEnthusiast]

Can you shoot this ammo into ballistic gel? They look like those old flying ashtrays lol

[@picvan]

Also this makes me wonder are all those movies which show bullets shooting out of guns with the brass case intact just making inside jokes of reloaded bullets with swaged brass jackets?

[@Ren505nm]

Could a penny be formed into a fmj?

[@calfan3]

i thought it was like "swagg" , LMAO

[@TheHarleyhillbilly]

I have a shit load of .40 brass I think around 12000 I don’t even own a .40 I am a old school .45 ACP, and 9mm guy I would like to try some of those case jacketed bullets in .45

[@tomharrell1954]

Finally 40 cal has a use

[@kuglepen64]

The Dutch word "van" (meaning "from" or "of") is pronounced "fan" with the "a" sounding like the utterance you make when the doctor says "open your mouth and say ahhhhh"

[@bobiscool308]

what does swaged mean

[@Gaviid]

that is cool.

[@Redsmithstudios]

brass is harder than copper, would this damage a chromed barrel?

[@pacman10182]

it wont hurt a steel barrel, why would it hurt the harder chrome?

[@zerinhodaft]

@gotindrachenhart i'm police officer, and on it's presentation video for HK P2000 they said a lot of times "hecklar und korrrr pii tzzzwaaaayyy tauzannn" hahahahaha but unfortunatelly, we still with Taurus PT-940 and Imbel MD-1...

[@fastbuckink]

@fastbuckink sorry missed the end

[@gotindrachenhart]

@HDROSpieler123 As I understand it, it's ˈhɛklɐʔʊntˈkɔx so it'd be more like loch (scottish) right? If so then I sit corrected, it's not coke :D

[@hartstudebakerkid]

Looks like an expensive way to make bullits to me since you are using casings that are worth at least a nickle plus you still have to cast the center and then swage.

[@sjeverett75]

i know this is old, but if you pick up range brass then its free. casting the lead is cheap. you're producing the projectile for less than a nickel. the biggest investment is the dies.

[@w00dy-18]

Very nice handgun. The bullets are pretty interesting, but I can't see how these can be more accurate then factory bullets. So I can't really see a use for these "bullets". But then again hollowpoints for pistols are downright illegal in Belgium so I can't have any eitherway :P

[@domdomdidity]

Here I thought the carbines had gained "some" level of respect, damn...

[@DHR_000x]

Heckler and Coke?

[@dcd442]

chrome...is way harder than either. They aren't even tested the same. Copper, and brass are relatively soft and are tested on the rockwell b scale. Chrome, is very hard. In fact is it is harder than most materials. Including cobalt, tungsten, and titanium. (all of which are used to alloy, or coat cutting tools, to make them harder). So...don't worry.

[@SystemaBase]

cool

[@VicariousReality7]

Lol wut, sir.

[@CRJarvis]

neat

[@futten3230]

hu ha wait is that a casing in a casing?

[@daywalker627]

@KeeperOfTheOath Oh most definatly have to bond the core and case. I would flux the inside of the case then seat the core. Then warm the case core up to bond together. When I make my jacket making dies for copper tubing, the base will be fully closed same pipe, then I will make the tip however different top punches. Hit me up in a pm, I have a picture of a friends jacket making die with made jackets and bullets from copper pipe I can email you if you like....

[@glennwih]

It takes 1 year to get a corbin press.

[@Gorbachev]

@BigSean1992 The smaller case becomes the jacket for a cast bullet.

[@daywalker627]

@6satan6ist6 Another thought, This person locally found out what I am doing with these 40 cases. He asked me the other day if I needed some so I said yea how much. He told me he had no use for it and if I could use it, then it is mine, He said he had over a couple thousand. Being I get my lead free, these 40's he is giving me is free, then I get free jacketed bullets. The 8.00 per 100 figure was based on having to buy the 40 brass (3k+) from a friend. More money for smokes LOL...

[@panzermacher]

at nearly $900 a set Corbon is insanely expensive, few could justify the savings, more power to those that have the skill & means to make their own dies. bd

[@DaveDerrick_UK]

See you dont auto-index the press - me neither.

[@gotindrachenhart]

Yup it's Heckler and "coke".....it's German :) Just like I always pronounced swage incorrectly. I always prounced the a as short (swa-g vs swA-j), swAging just sounds silly and european....swagging sounds dirty and cooler :)

[@JMCSD]

@eltercermillonario That is indeed the correct pronounciation. I myself called it the Heckler and Cock for a long time :P

[@pfootball6363]

what exactly is the purpose

[@sjeverett75]

some do it so that you dont have to worry about leading the barrel. for rifle bullets, you also have the benefit of running higher velocities than just lead or lead with gas check.

[@Poizon2K8]

@gotindrachenhart i thought it was pronounced like loch , but straight from h&k FAQ section : FREQUENTLY ASKED QUESTIONS What is the proper way to pronounce Koch? The English pronunciation is pronounced, “coke."

[@gotindrachenhart]

@zerinhodaft Actually it's supposed to be said like "Coke"

[@gotindrachenhart]

@zerinhodaft I'm missing something, that made no sense.

[@zerinhodaft]

Jesus... bro', the correct pronounce is: "HECKLAR UND KORRRRRR" H - E - C - K - L - "A" - R - a little pause here - U - N - D - another pause to breath - K - O - frog in the throat! hahahaha

[@dbach7]

Say basically three or four more times.

[@valknut151]

If you went hunting with one of those Hi Point carbines the animals would stop and laugh at you...

[@daywalker627]

@stevewall502 nope, does nothing more to your barrel than a regular factory jacket.

[@dbach7]

bacically, basically, basically. You need a new word.

[@usops88]

wow iv never heard of these. cant wait to see them fired

[@lucasgpagani]

nooossaaaaaaaaaa

[@dogbone222]

He needs to go deeper

[@Boyhowdy2112]

Swaging is not made up...Blacksmiths have been using Swaging, and Swage Blocks for a 150 years now.

[@Strothy2]

+1 sucessful troll

[@UrSoMeanBoss]

Swage? Swag!

[@radupasarin5874]

:))) LOL

[@MoralRapist]

its pronounced like loch. heckler and koch.

[@UpcomingJedi]

Heckler and Cock? You sure about that?

[@BuggaBoy69]

Garras Porgratix Yeah I was wondering why he didn’t just type cock

[@Martinbergin]

Ha ha

[@dogbone222]

@MsBowhunter95 dare i say shellception?

[@Sjackson2369]

And I thought that was what happened when a 9mm got stuck in a .40 while tumbling