GameCube Fans, This Controller Changes Everything

[@TakumiJoyconBoyz]

I really hope you are confident in your ability to mass produce these. I've seen enough controller projects shit the bed by just not being able to keep up with demand.

[@HandHeldLegend]

We are working with production partners in China that we have used to create injection molded GameCube button sets (even more complex parts such as the triggers), injection molded GameCube adapters, and more. We're confident we'll be able to execute the production of this idea (definitely not entirely on our own!) On the other side of these, we have great business relationships with our PCB fabrication partner, parts suppliers, and more to ensure that there's a smooth production process :)

[@TakumiJoyconBoyz]

@@HandHeldLegend That's awesome to hear! Incredibly excited for this project. Best of luck on the Kickstarter.

[@cyclone6976]

Panda controller

[@NotJollibee]

Nyxi Warrior

[@MrYazkuza]

@@cyclone6976 real

[@BigRigCreates]

My man is pulling the Panda Global controller back from the grave

[@BHRA78]

Man i remember that shit, still sad it never really came out

[@mir4geisnotafurry]

bigrig?!?!?! ur a smash fan?!?

[@ThePerro]

Exactly my thoughts when I saw the thumbnail!!

[@NotJollibee]

Nyxi Warrior

[@paulnovacek3715]

Except better in every way

[@dophir17]

I've been looking for a good, modern Gamecube controller for years now, and the solutions I found were all lacking in some way. I was happy to see the features I want, but crowdfunding made me skeptical of this project. What sold me is the fact that you already made the entire controller open source. That alone has made me excited to support your work. Hopefully the crowdfunding campaign goes well!

[@MitchCairns]

I completely understand the reservation. I've backed a campaign before and been ghosted and it's one of the worst feelings. You can talk to other people in the modding community and I would hope by now that I've gained a good reputation with the ProGCC that even if I don't get something right, that I will do what I can to make it right. We really would not be doing crowdfunding unless we absolutely needed to. The big hangup is injection molds and the wireless certifications. These are very expensive processes and we do not want to jump into this unless we know we have everything lined up :( Than you sincerely from the bottom of my heart

[@dophir17]

@@MitchCairns/videos Thanks for replying! I completely understand from work how expensive product manufacturing and certification can be, and as a hobby DIYer, I also know how time-consuming designing a product like GC-Ultimate can be. The fact that the GC-Ultimate repo is already live weeks before the crowdfunding campaign begins has bought a lot of credibility. As a long-time supporter of FOSS, I'll be sure to contribute to the campaign when it goes lives. Truly, thank you for making this wonderful project open source. I wish HHL the best of luck in the upcoming campaign.

[@debeb5148]

​@@MitchCairns Rooting for you. I am also another melee enthusiast who would like both a modern and customizable gamecube controller. Straight up the idea to make new 3d printed notches are amazing and I could see it working so well and make getting your controller better notches WAY more accessible. Ingenious. This controller is gonna change everything if you guys can follow through. I really hope everything goes well, and I can buy one of these one day.

[@jon_bone]

Retro fighters is making a hall effect gamecube controller

[@Gaemfreak]

​@@jon_boneThe problem with their controllers is the shape isn't anything like the NGC.

[@PowerHungryFool]

What I'd really like to see on this is a locking mechanism for the usb-c. I'd hate for it to come loose during a set.

[@wenimechoinasama2]

yes, even a notched cable like on some switch controllers

[@Aative]

Maybe a cable tether like the Satisfye x Limit Labs Glyph will have. Compatible with any cable.

[@Johnsbrggnfndm]

If only other controller manufacturers build controllers like this. Open source, hall effect sticks, modular and easily customizable? Perfection

[@flamestoyershadowkill]

Last things it needs for perfection are a face touchpad, analog face buttons, a fifth face bottom, and back buttons. Also maybe figure out six axis compatibility.

[@Josuh]

@@flamestoyershadowkilllet's be real do we really need analog face buttons

[@eduardoalvarez4457]

@@Josuh exactly at that point he is asking for an entirely new kind of controllers instead of a GameCube controller with modern settings.

[@prgnify]

@@eduardoalvarez4457 Xbox (the first one) controllers had all face buttons being "analog", PS3 as well I believe. Not many games used it at all iirc let alone effectively, but seeing how much people like computer keyboards with analog keys, maybe the world has changed?

[@SuperTort0ise]

​@@prgnify idk how many Xbox or PS3 games used pressure sensitivity but lots of PS2 games did.

[@ForeverWinter1812]

I have to say this is some next level engineering. I hope you bring this level of quality to other controllers.

[@MitchCairns]

If this is a success who knows what the future holds

[@UriahStuff]

Since this is compatible with the N64, this controller can actual play every single smash game except 3DS.

[@Kuchito08]

With a bluetooth mod, you can (prolly) get it working on a 3DS as well.

[@Ozides]

The 3ds has an app that I think uses vJoy to use any controller connected to the PC and maps it to the 3ds, I connected an original GC controller to the 3ds with an original Wii U adapter through the PC, so it can actually play every single smash game.

[@Vegginald]

This is awesome. Center buttons could definitely use some work.

[@MitchCairns]

Could you clarify? They are only resin printed prototypes right now.

[@bland9876]

​@@MitchCairnsexactly! That's why they will hopfully be moved around better for the finally design.

[@Vegginald]

@@MitchCairns They appear to be very small and in an awkward location. It looks uncomfortable to fit your fingers in there, and also makes you change your grip on the controller from a natural holding grip to a specialized grip to hit the buttons. I think the PowerA version where the start button remained in it's normal position and was then sided by the additional buttons makes a lot more sense. You don't have to hold the controller weird or change your grip to get to the buttons. As of now, the buttons are really crowded and are impossible to reach in a normal grip. It needs ergonomic improvement.

[@Ashevlyn]

​@@MitchCairns Agree with the other person, if changing the position of the buttons is too difficult, at least increasing the physical size of them would make both the ease of use and aesthetics much better, as it is they look very forced and cramped, as if someone just drilled a few extra holes into a pre existing controller (Which, is kinda what is happening here) but it doesn't look like something you'd find on a finished product.

[@HudsonU]

This is the controller of my dreams

[@ericschulze1337]

ich glaub der NYXI Gamecube Controller ist trotzdem besser und nicht ganz so hässlich^^ - aber Funktion über Design :P

[@kitterbug]

This seems really cool, but I do think the center buttons could use some relocation on the final design.

[@bodhiplays]

yo, i just wanted to say the open source 3d printable gates is actually insane! That means if people want to they can 3d print notches into their gates so they're actually replaceable, meaning you don't need to get a whole new shell for your controller every time you wear down your shield drop/ff notches lol. Dope af man, gonna nab one for my buddy and i asap.

[@VirtuaMaster]

The official Sega Saturn and Dreamcast controllers were the first to include hall effect sensors in a controller. it's a shame they didn't catch on until now, all because those consoles were "commercial failures" despite being revolutionary! I'm glad this tech is coming to the GCN controller, along with better bluetooth than the Wavebird.

[@flamestoyershadowkill]

The magneto resistive ones on the dualshock 3 sixaxis were a thing

[@SewerYum]

Theyre my commercial failures! Sonic Shuffle will never be shared

[@noahcardosi6777]

Interesting seeing the mixed reactions to this. I dont think people understand how huge this is going to be, not just for smash, but for other games as well!

[@MitchCairns]

Many people have very high expectations and of course want the controller to work for them, it's entirely understandable. This controller is designed to be very moddable and customizable.

[@MultiDarkII]

only the melee tards hate this because hurr durr different controller

[@joeykeilholz925]

The black center buttons are ugly

[@Professor_Utonium_]

Me, who just kept good care of their stuff and still uses native hardware

[@buttertandoorichicken]

Yeah, I don’t really play smash but I got my first OG GameCube controller to play some of the GameCube pokemon games earlier this year, and now I wish I waited for this 😂

[@Jetter06]

This is my dream controller, the GameCube layout and feel but with every single modern enhancement possible, I need this thing for speed running and streaming like holy smokes!!! I use to stick with power A's GameCube controller for both PC, and Switch gameplay but I hated that I never had a single controller for everything since I always had to switch to my wave bird for speed running which has an entirely different feel and wear and tear and that's not event to mention how short the Power A GameCube controllers actually last when it comes to long term and consistent usage. A controller like this would not only solve all my problems but easily would become my permeant controller going forward, and with so much customizability I don't think I would ever go back to my old controllers if I could get this bad boy! You've done a marvelous job with this and I so hope to see this reach its Kickstarter goal!!

[@Gamerbropart2]

Jetter how’s it going?

[@henrystudios5624]

Oh man, im really exited. I've been looking for an official gamecube controller, but the physical state in which they are being sold is the only thing keeping me from buying. This controller, apart from looking newer, has new components and is up to todays standards. I hope this project gains it's deserved success.

[@aluigiFromKart]

respect for picking Game and Watch in the melee footage

[@MitchCairns]

I like having fun 🫣

[@Mr.Welbig]

This looks very promising. My main lingering concern is if this controller will have the same stick resistance as the original stick. The stickboxes on every 3rd party GameCube replica does not have that stick resistance predominant on Gamecube, nunchuck, and Wii classic controller sticks. Otherwise the compatibility and features make this very appealing!! We need good alternatives to the OG.

[@MitchCairns]

The stickboxes feel closer to an OEM pro controller. They are nice, but they are not T3. Cheers

[@lucio-ohs8828]

@@MitchCairns do you have any plans to attempt replicating the tightness of the T3 as an alternative stick option? In melee, the tightness can make tilts a lot easier. I have trouble doing them with using other controllers on dolphin.

[@TheMitchellSpecial]

@@lucio-ohs8828 while the gulikit stickboxes that the progcc uses and assuming the TMR ones the GC ultimate are using will be the same, arent as tight as T3 stock or T3 + L2 springs, I think the gulikit stickboxes are built and designed way better. the spring recenters notably faster for how light it is to move and the spring harmonics are great and there is much much much smoother motion in the stick in comparison to the T3 stickbox. You could probably desolder the stickboxes off of the GC ultimate and replace them with another third party stickbox( i cant rememberr the name of the one that competes with gulikit in making HE stickboxes and they are said to be tighter)

[@legattacks]

t fully plan on backing and keeping up with this project. as someone who recently got back into melee and went thru hell getting an affordable OEM with slight mods, I would definitely cop one of these. hall effects plus a second button on the left bumper side is EVERYTHING i've ever wanted in a gcc, everything else is just icing on the cake.

[@CounterpickLabs]

As an indie platform fighter dev, super excited about the XInput support! My game is Javascript-based so it can't support GCC natively, meaning my GCC players either need an adapter with a PC mode (which is often janky) or need to configure third-party software like Delfinovin. Having a plug-and-play solution to remove that friction is huge!

[@MitchCairns]

DM me on Discor, it is possible to support GameCube via WebUSB. Happy to help you with it NiceMitch on there 🙏

[@CounterpickLabs]

​@@MitchCairns In case any players/other devs see this - the WebUSB route is (currently) a dead-end for GCCs, and I don't believe WebHID would work either though I'm happy to be proven wrong! Some other solution for the Steam version of the game could be feasible, web unlikely though. Thanks @Mitch for the chat! Wishing the Kickstarter success!

[@Sin_Alder]

Wait, since when are adapters for PC janky? Don't get me wrong, I want a Gamecube controller with native PC support just so I don't have to keep my GC adapter always set up at my desk, which is already enough of a mess without it, but I've never personally experienced a Gamecube to PC adapter that's had any problems. Sure, you need something like Steam Input for using it with any PC games that weren't made with GCC in mind, since it has fewer buttons than most modern controllers and that can be a problem, but still, never had much in the way of problems with Gamecube adapters.

[@CounterpickLabs]

​@@Sin_Alder My reply keeps disappearing :( Might be too long haha, so here's a shorter (still long) version: - With Steam Input it might be fine, but without it many (not all) PC mode adapters have really janky mappings. - Yes I can detect + hardcode proper mappings for each nonstandard adapter, but it's a pain and there are always ones I haven't seen before popping up. - Many players don't know about Steam Input (especially for the web version of my game), and any amount of friction is really bad for a free-to-play game. Player demographic also matters - I get a ton of casual Ult/Brawlhalla/io-style game enjoyers. - For example, I have a handful of negative Steam reviews from players with 5 minutes of game time who didn't like the default keyboard controls (which are of course re-bindable). I spend a ton of time trying to smoothen out the new player experience as much as possible, so any extra help (like this controller's existence) is exciting! And of course this controller's launch won't solve everything since most of my players won't actually be using it, but for every player that does it's a win in my book.

[@fanb1536]

I'm very sour on that split D-pad, I would've hoped for something larger and in one piece (perhaps even a Sega-style option?), and same goes for the tiny shoulder buttons, but that aside this controller looks great and I'm really wishing you the best in your endeavors.

[@dasfloote6511]

You had me at bluetooth GC controller with analog triggers, but that split D-pad steals the spotlight! That fixes such a huge issue i had with the original. So hyped for this

[@joeykeilholz925]

The gamecube controller already has analog triggers

[@Kapten_R3]

@@joeykeilholz925 i think you missed the whole bluetooth part

[@0xD15EA5E]

@@joeykeilholz925 A lot of aftermarket Bluetooth GC controllers don't have analog triggers.

[@flamestoyershadowkill]

Hopefully the triggers are also still dual stage

[@lucio-ohs8828]

@@flamestoyershadowkill they are

[@_zoeloft]

I absolutely love my ProGCC from y’all, this project seems great and I hope it ends up as good as it seems!

[@thejarkub9559]

This looks amazing good work!! Best combo of the classic controller with all the current features

[@EverGreenTaiga]

You sold me at the individual directional buttons. All it needs is amiibo support and it will literally be perfect.

[@MitchCairns]

Unlikely. That gets into some hairy territory with DRM stuff and although many third party controllers do it, I'm not going to press my luck

[@MegaStunfiskandHat]

1:33 3D printed noches could be huge if they're accurate enough

[@HandHeldLegend]

They are

[@Bloodstar-o7]

I was just wishing my xbox controller had this while playing Ocarina of Time. I use converters because finding good working retro controllers or finding aftermarket replacements that are good is next to impossible. Edit: although I see the swappable part is only on the left stick, although I would only need something like the right ine for the C-buttons/C-stick. Having options on the left stick isn’t necessary for me but it is nice.

[@DrunkenPumpkin626]

3d printing can get perfect accuracy, if you dont cheap out on one

[@Galgofrit]

Also any microscopic discrepancies will be negated by calibrating the stick (which works perfectly on their customized Pro Controller)

[@Reizor_]

PLEASE DONT FLOP PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE

[@Reizor_]

OH MY GOD ROUNDED GATES PLEASE DONT FLOP PLEASEEEE

[@schmeagol]

I have been waiting for someone to make a good GameCube style controller with hall effect sticks for YEARS. I've always had issues with drift on these controllers and it doesn't help that nearly every manufacturer also decides to slap turbo buttons onto their controllers making anything affordable non-tournament legal I wish you the best of luck with this kickstarter, and I hope the product is half as good as you make it seem in the video

[@darcy4424]

Commenting for algorithm, controller situation for melee is a hard barrier to entry competitive play (notches, remapping, etc) this looks sick af.

[@Samevi]

My only request is OEM-style stick caps.

[@MitchCairns]

It's one of our stretch goals

[@Samevi]

@@MitchCairns I hope you manage to get there man! That'd be the perfect controller for me.

[@KingNintendoFanboy]

@@MitchCairns I don't see it listed. Is this still planned?

[@Samevi]

@@KingNintendoFanboy All controllers will be sent with OEM-style stick caps along with the default.

[@Isaax]

Okay sure but I'll believe it when it's actually out in people's hands and the consensus is looking good

[@MitchCairns]

Many people already have the prototype, we have an active discord and you can even hunt down some people who have posted their builds on Twitter. Cheers

[@ItsMisterMarbles]

I've been using one of the prototypes and it feels really good. Used it in the Rivals 2 playtest last week and it was great.

[@EnheTook50Benadryl]

nerd

[@Pabmyster]

This is the exact controller I was contemplating trying to design! Thanks for making my dreams a reality ❤

[@anonymousse4138]

nice to see the prototype run was sucessful and is leading to this

[@theenigmabegins]

Gotta have one, I've never wanted a controller so bad so fast. Color options? I need this, The compatibility alone makes it a must have, All the features on top of that are just tasty tasty icing on an already delicious cake. Thank you from the bottom of my heart for making this, The nostalgia lives on!

[@Clemphim]

Very incredible engineering work Something like this to bring to a supernova is great to be able to switch from melee and 64 and rivals for example An app to go along with it and it being so customizable is crazy appealing

[@GreatScooty]

I have been waiting for this... I've comprimised and tried alternatives after my WiiU adapter stopped working, and they've all had their own issues. I recently received a replacement NYXI Warrior after the A button on mine stopped working ... after two months. I'm looking forward to this!

[@anondabomb]

All you need is graphic design now, it’s wonderful as it looks. I suggest adding a few unique buttons to the layout and a logo, the name could also use a slight tweak to better reflect your company. I haven’t looked at the name of the company but you should be able to make a good amount with this.

[@razhyel_]

got it saved on kickstarter, looking forward to it!

[@NeededByNobody]

Hey commenting to tell you, ill buy a copy as soon as it releases. You have no idea how good this is.

[@CrackinCrocodiles]

All this needs now is a built-in fan like those Nyko Air-Flos. 🤤 I love how your product tackles all the niche irks and quirks. So satisfying!

[@airplaneB3N]

Those swappable plates look pretty sweet. I always hated it whenever the octagon wears out and becomes rounded on my Gamecube controller.

[@windwakin]

Obligatory “Shut up and take my money”

[@boo1_gaming927]

This will be good for Mario Kart as well, especially with the GCN and N64 support as well as the digital triggers. This controller can support up to 5 games in the series, making it the most compatible controller ever for the Mario Kart series.

[@MitchCairns]

Super Mario Kart, Mario Kart 64, Mario Kart Double Dash, Mario Kart Wii, Mario Kart 8, Mario Kart 8 DX (6 games? XD )

[@boo1_gaming927]

@@MitchCairns I was thinking of MK64, MKSC (GB Player), MKDD, MKWii, and MK8DX. I don’t know if it will work with SNES, but I’m just counting the games that will work with native hardware.

[@joking_oregon1]

This is insane this could potentially be one of the greatest gamecube controllers of all time if it comes out right ive never seen a gamecube controller with modern features thats also backwards conpatible

[@Not_Astrocat]

I hope everything goes well, and as soon as reviews start coming and if they are good I'll definetly get one, specially for Rival Of Aether 2, a extra button dedicated to parry might come a long way

[@XNDL44]

This controller shows great promise! I would like to see what other innovations your team could bring to other controller types

[@thumper5555]

0:38 If it's really GC compatible, you can play 64 (through Wii VC), Melee, Brawl, 4, and Ultimate with it using just the GC cable.

[@Necronoxicon261]

I wish you luck this would be a big win for the gaming community

[@Saschmu]

what a Legend, u dont even know how long im searching for a Gamecube Controller like that. The last Controller which i was looking forward to was the Panda Controller but.. well discontinued

[@zipsnap]

I love the custom gates! Would love to see you get in touch with Melee and Ultimate pros and get a test run on this controller for even more fine tuning

[@Squared_Phoenix]

This has the potential to be HUGE

[@qje3204]

ill be honest i ignore advertisements like 99% of the time for everything no matter what it is. i like your advertisement. i will think about supporting it...

[@gilphroy]

This is one badass project

[@tysonjame9637]

The detachable plates would be killer for Firefox, wave dash and shield drop notches!

[@JoshLeGrow]

I don't do Kickstarter projects much but I'm so into this

[@LucasBadur]

This looks very nice, will follow the project to see how it goes. If it isn't too expensive or shipping is prohibitive, I'll consider getting one. I don't fully understand the trigger situation, but it's late and I might just be sleep-deprived

[@Lampaluile]

HHL has a very good rep and have been working on this for a long time now! Happy to see it's in the final stages

[@HaxHaunter]

I'm totally convinced. Man, I really wanna get it now.

[@Orpheusftw]

I'm not sure I'll like the split d-pad. I've only ever used one on a "Razer Onza," and didn't care for it at all. The joycons might also count, but I dislike those as well. (There are STILL people who think PlayStation 1/2/3 d-pads work like this, but no. They're one solid piece, just with part of it recessed under the housing. Its only visually "split.")

[@dhbroad]

How is this the first time I've heard of this project!? Looks amazing! Nice work!

[@Theblaziken2000]

I just started building a phob for the first time so seeing this gets me even more excited to play some smash.

[@paecorps6416]

This has to be mad produced

[@SaiyanX5]

I've been genuinely depressed about the fail that was the panda controller, so hearing this makes me so excited!

[@camtenna]

I LOVE U! I COULD CRY RN THANK YOU!😭

[@noelleonhart]

I'm definitely looking forward to supporting this in KS. Can't wait!

[@Gaemfreak]

Everything I've been looking for from a modern NGC. All the ones on Amazon have issues like poor wireless, button problems, aren't the same form factor, or a lack of analog triggers.

[@PERSONALEEMG]

good luck on the kickstarter, that emerald color looks sick. :)

[@belojah2]

I hope I can afford this next month. supporting this 100% I'm still playing gc games today. Nothing as intensive as smash. But I want this none the less.

[@Scarabaeian]

This definitely could be the best controller for emulation in general.

[@lunalikesmetroidvanias]

at first i thought the dpad was PS Vita style, but individual buttons is still good! hopefully you'll give more D-pad options in the future though. still, great controller!! hope it succeeds, i'll try to back it myself when i can :3

[@otttimon5654]

Tomorrow is the kickstarter launch, can’t wait

[@MitchCairns]

YEEEEE

[@tekgeekster]

picking up where the panda left off

[@MitchCairns]

I know the comparisons are inevitable but I just want to reiterate that this is an entirely original design

[@tekgeekster]

@@MitchCairns I never said it wasn't.

[@lloydaran]

Additional trigger button, fully digital triggers, easily customisable and repairable, hall effect sticks, no snapback, wireless, compatible with just about anything? Holy hell, sign me up.

[@DillyzThe1]

the smash 64 inclusion makes me happy and i wish the controller luck in succeeding

[@MasterLYT]

This looks incredible Only feedback I have from this is maybe make the engravings on the ABXY buttons more clear so the rgb can shine through and highlight them And also the sticks having a different feel, it might be better in some cases especially for the c stick but the 3 ring grip on the main stick is always so nice

[@Write-Stuff]

Absolutely brilliant. I maintain that the GameCube controller is the best controller ever made. Sure, there have been technological advancements since then, but its design and layout have yet to be surpassed by my estimation. By feel alone, you knew which button was what, and Nintendo utilized its layout perfectly in its games.

[@haydens4449]

Really cool, maybe I’m missing it or maybe you plan on releasing it later but I wish the kickstarter had more information about your actual distribution plans and what pricing could look like, looking forward to learning more

[@lyonrieve1]

I am so excited for this, it's everything I've wanted in a GC style controller. Will spend stupid money on this to back.

[@baitd5181]

I hope TOs work with you, so this can be competitively viable. Looks like a great modern take. Thank you for your hard work!

[@BLOODY__FATALITY]

I really like this. The customization options and multiple outputs for different consoles is really cool. If I can point out a idea for a feature, it'd be neat if the ends of the cords for consoles like the GameCube and N64 had the ability to double as bluetooth dongles, so when you unplugged the controller it would go into bluetooth and be wireless similar to modern controllers. Just a idea I had. Although it's probably something to not include to keep the price down but I don't know hoe expensive that would be to add. Definitely later on down the line though you could sell wireless dongles for the bluetooth modes maybe and have later revisions of the controller be compatible and add "V1" somewhere on the shell so people can tell what model they have.

[@MitchCairns]

There are some fantastic retro dongles on the market due to the open source project called BlueRetro. Highly recommend them

[@cheeseburger8448]

yo this controller is looking really nice I really hope your kickstarter goes well!

[@NeoCyrus777]

I have zero nostalgia for this stuff, I had no Nintendo consoles beyond the SNES, & even I'm interested in this controller. I'll consider buying one once it's released, assuming the price isn't too nuts in Canada, especially considering we get mugged by import fees. If there are any suggestions I can give, though, it's: 1 - Add back buttons, customizable/programmable back buttons are not negotiable anymore. I've modded in back buttons into every pad I use that didn't come with them. 2 - Give d-pad options; make it swappable. Making each direction an individual switch is 100% the correct decision, but giving cover/pad options can make it so those who want to use a d-pad in fighting games can do so.

[@wwjnz9263]

Hall effect sticks are awesome... But I want to see loadcell sticks become a thing. Imagine a thumbstick that doesn't move but responds to how much force you put on it.

[@immortallix]

As one of the 7 people who have nostalgia for smash 64 I'm excited by this. However I really don't like the idea of that individual button dpad. Every time I've tried an implementation of that it's been horrible and I'd prefer the option to have a traditional dpad.

[@MitchCairns]

It works better than you think here. Cheers appreciate the enthusiasm

[@immortallix]

Still being a supposedly modular controller, the option would be appreciated ​@@MitchCairns

[@0.Kenshin]

​@@immortallixI completely agree. We know it will work to navigate menus, but it's going to cause the same concerns in fighting games people always have. If a bigger rocker style dpad can be used instead them I'm in.

[@JarretDeVeau]

i hope the kickstarter will go well i love this project !

[@NERDmNERDf]

FINALLY been waiting for a controller just like this. Make sure to make it compatoble with the blue retro internal adapter!!!!

[@0xD15EA5E]

This is exactly what I've been looking for in a GameCube controller. Pretty much the controller of my dreams, and something I've been considering making myself via controller mods. I'll definitely be considering backing it on kickstarter. I have two major criticisms, however: 1) I think the start, select, home and (I'm assuming the capture button) are all a bit too close together. I'd love to see them a bit more seperated. A bit closer to how they're laid out on the Pro Controller would be great, or even just further up and separated a little more. They also look a tad small to me? Might need to be slightly larger. Assuming these are prototypes for now 2) The split d-pad is great in concept, but personally I find that the dpad is so difficult partially because it's so small. In my opinion, I think I'd prefer to see a slightly larger d-pad, and maybe the option to have it be a split d-pad or a connected one. I'd also love to know if you have any plans to do a purple colourway. I know it mentions on the kickstarter page that there will be stretch goals for more colourways, but a purple one would be amazing to see. Excited to see how this comes along!

[@MitchCairns]

1) the button placement is final and well-tested. The buttons are clicky/tactile and very easy to press (Think of the Plus/Minus buttons on a joycon, but maybe even a bit easier to press). you can easily reach all of the said buttons (Except the power button, which is 1000% intentional) 2) Split dpad is also well-tested and I wouldn't be pushing it if I didn't believe in it 100%. It's one of those 'try it' things where I'm sure it will surprise many at just how good it feels to use.

[@0xD15EA5E]

@@MitchCairns Thanks for your response! It's great to know these things have been very well thought out.

[@rodrigoramirez2010]

Simply amazing, can’t wait to back this

[@Farkonso]

Can you promise that this controller will have availability and reliable manufacturing? It's hard to have faith that we won't end up with another Frame1 type of incident. Every time a new good controller is shown off for kickstarter, it is always impossible to acquire.

[@HandHeldLegend]

The primary hangup to production right now on a scale that makes sense is injection molds. Once we have molds done, it's much easier to batch out a few thousand at a time. Hope this helps

[@lucio-ohs8828]

there's already built-to-order prototypes available, lots of people love them and my friend who is super picky with controllers (who got a prototype early because the dev liked his janky controller internals) really likes it

[@drmarioprojectm1510]

@@HandHeldLegend And I hope the kit is available to the general public via online stores

[@Microwave414]

My only suggestion is to not go with a split d-pad design but instead a tac-switch d-pad if possible. If done well you'd have the feeling of the original but with a significant improvement to input accuracy at the trade off of being well, clacky but with a d-pad of that size I think it's a fair trade off.

[@fromage5474]

I was literally thinking about the ol' panda controller yesterday! Awesome to see another shot at it, one that looks even more feature rich!

[@ecksdee7957]

i don't think I'll back any Kickstarter ever, but I'm looking forward to when these are widely available!

[@Sike1921]

Dude this came out at the perfect time. I've been looking for a replacement for my gcc and I think I have finally found it.

[@larrythehedgehog]

Rooting for you guys and I haven't even watched the video yet. My tired old wave bird has been eyeing retirement for a while now.

[@eancklean7922]

This man is creating a masterpiece

[@greg4055g]

So cool, can’t wait 🙂 don’t know you but I’m proud of you!

[@xvideogames5430]

Just after purchasing an original one, this video pops up in my feed :c I'm going to wait until mine stops working and then buy this one

[@NobleHunter21]

If the face buttons and d-pad were tactile/mechanical, this would be absolutely perfect. Love the feature set this already has though! I would also love to see the RGB be addressible by RGB PC software such as OpenRGB or Signal.

[@MeleeMaster_GCN]

Honestly? I’d gladly buy this controller! I think the d-pad should also be RGB, especially since it’s clear! I also love that the buttons are separate, reminds me of the PlayStation controllers and that’s one of the reasons why I love the dualshock 3/4/dualsense!

[@MitchCairns]

Looking into it although it's a cramped spot and I don't want chances of the LEDs getting knocked off there. Under consideration!!

[@AlexandriaRose-hi6mt]

My wife says the only issue is the shape of the c stick, if you have an original shaped c stick or its compatible with the original C stick we're in.

[@HandHeldLegend]

It's a stretch goal! :)

[@Kade503]

I'm hoping the 2nd joystick can easily be swapped for a c-stick. I also wish it wasn't an exact copy of the GCC shell since the handles are not ergonomic at all and one of my biggest issues. They need to be flared out more and just bigger in general to be more in line with every controller that has been released in the last decade as far as ergonomics and not forcing you to scrunch up you index fingers for the shoulder buttons. Aside from the that it looks really good, I and I wish you luck, but I've spent too much on GCCs already, what with a Phob and still the thing I wish for the most is decent shaped handles to stop my big hands from cramping up so easily. I did buy the shoulder buttons seperately (or at least some version of them from you guys) and they do help somewhat and very nice to use with Rivals 2 that don't have anything like light shields, so I appreciate those at least.