Nanoleaf Permanent Outdoor Lights (NEW FOR 2024)

[@denisbrisebois7658]

Thanks for this comparison. Would love to see a video on the best location to be placed on a home with peaks etc.

[@handydadtv]

That’s a personal decision. If you have a tall house, I would leave them at 4” spacing. For a 1-story house, I’d probably go closer.

[@mikemosher1612]

Question, does the included cover system include 90 degree/corner pieces and is there a cover for the connectors or will those be exposed? Thanks.

[@handydadtv]

No, you need to cut your own miters to go around corners.

[@bigj-yn3tf]

Boo lol jk ​@@handydadtv

[@crispy_tacos]

Great review, can you customize the light string and turn off some of the lights? Say, have every other one or 2 turned on only? If I remember correct Govee allows you to do that in there pro series. Thanks

[@handydadtv]

Unfortunately, the app has no way to control individual lights at this time. Should be easy for them to add, but it’s not possible at this time.

[@joseluisperezjr3285]

And in there regular series too

[@bnubile]

Agree, that’s a nice install look on the nano leaf. Killer feature they are all missing is e131 compatibility (xlights)

[@handydadtv]

They want you to stay in their ecosystem.

[@robeoteu]

I'm new to this but this company thought of everything. Very DIY friendly. Thanks.

[@handydadtv]

The wire covers are a little extra work, but worth it!

[@thomaseason2664]

great video. My question is can these lights allow you to turn off certain lights in the system? Could you have on only the end and peak lights to use as "spot lights?" thanks

[@crispy_tacos]

Great question, that's what I would like to know as well. I don't want all the lights on all the time maybe every other one or 2.

[@handydadtv]

Unfortunately, the app has no way to control individual lights at this time. Should be easy for them to add, but it’s not possible at this time.

[@ItsThatVirago]

In their launch video it states each puck is individually addressable. States this at 9:50 into video.

[@handydadtv]

@ItsThatVirago Individually addressable means they don’t need to be all the same color.

[@ItsThatVirago]

@handydadtv What a shame. Launch video even stated things about security and showed the warm lights individually turning off. I know its just an animation for video but I guess GoVee has them beat in that department.

[@Dirigentta]

For the Govee pros, which channel brand did you use to hide wire and secure the lights?

[@handydadtv]

I never covered the Govee wires. The wire covers shown in this video come with the Nanoleaf kit.

[@timshephard]

Which one integrates with Home Assistant better? Thx for the video!

[@handydadtv]

I only use WLED with Home Assistant. The Govees work with WLED but I haven’t figured out of the Nanoleaf do or not.

[@rogerhuston8287]

I'm just getting started with Home Assistant and would like to know if this works with WLED. Maybe swap out the controller? Though, it does take quite a bit of power so not sure how to do it.

[@rogerhuston8287]

I do love the rails and this seems to be the most complete kit yet.

[@handydadtv]

@rogerhuston8287 It’s more complicated that replacing the controller because they are 36 volts. See kzbin.info/www/bejne/qGmsc42Pnch0lc0

[@rogerhuston8287]

@@handydadtv Yes, thought the same.

[@jamies42178]

Great video thanks for sharing! I feel swayed to go with these over Govee pro. That said curious what you think about the lifespan. Govee says 50,000 hours and Nanoleaf is 25,000. I mean at the end of the day will take many years to reach it but just curious.

[@handydadtv]

I’m not sure how they calculate those lifespan numbers or if they can be believed. But they’re an average at best. You can have dead pixels at anytime and will need to repair them like I did here: kzbin.info/www/bejne/oXbXopmMl5qeorc. Having wire covers is a huge pro because they hide any repair splices.

[@chrispark11]

Do you have to power it from an end or can it run to an outlet from somewhere in the middle?

[@handydadtv]

The controller is always at the start of the strings.

[@rpatzwald]

Hi, I like your videos. I am redoing my lights this year. In the past I have used Walmart LED C9s mounted under my soffit. I am considering the permanent litghts similar to either the Nanoleaf or Govee. I would prefer a permanent installation since I am 73 years old. I know you went with the programable C9s but that looks like a lot of work. What is your final preference?

[@handydadtv]

I’m going permanent this year as well! You might want to hire a handyman though because I’m only 60 and it was a lot of work. I’m installing these: kzbin.info/www/bejne/jZvPqJiMmZyAkMU Video coming soon!

[@rpatzwald]

@@handydadtv LOL!!! I have pressure washed, scrapped, sanded, primer and painted 53' of the soffit/fascia so far. I have about 100' to go. I figure it I can get that done the lights should be okay. I may have to enlist my son to come help. My wife keeps telling me to hire someone but I have tried that and don't like the results. Old and picky! LOL.. Have to tried moving the lights further out from the house wall? Does it wash the light out?

[@handydadtv]

@rpatzwald I put them at the edge of my soffit last year. They look different, but fine. kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoSYq3l5edd7d6s

[@mkzenthusiasts]

Back in 2018 I had a company come and make custom regular Christmas lights for the house and it's expensive because every year they've got to put them up and take them down and then they store them That's the only way they do it and they charge us $250 each time Now I'm trying to get my father to yes I live at home well he's old and he's alone so that's why I'm there anyway I'm trying to get him to switch to save money they're permanent it'd be nice to use them year round there's so many pluses the only minus is he doesn't like the fact that they shine downward he's so used to the old tried and true c9 bulb you can't seem to grasp this new technology anyway thank you so much for showcasing this does it include every part that you showed on the video all those parts and pieces

[@handydadtv]

Technology will drive him nuts, regardless of brand. $250/year isn’t bad and they fix anything wrong.

[@homeboi808]

Look into bullet or puck style lights. Bullet would be like DrZzz Permatrack or Oelo ________ I have “puck” style lights (search “30mm RGBW UCS2904”), they don’t give the triangle sconce effect. I did DIY, but there are companies like Gemstone, Jellyfish, etc. that have dealer/installer networks. Or, a hybrid route BrightHomeLights in America (there are others too) and they also have partnered installers, the end result is pretty much the same but usually cheaper than Gemstone.

[@timl9495]

So if I wanted to add lights around my garage door and porch posts would I need to purchase two more sets, then cut excess off? Great video!

[@handydadtv]

These are meant for soffits.

[@mikemotorbike4283]

It depends on how close your posts are to the garage, You could use the story extension between them if they are that close.

[@HoldFastAndStoic]

How many strings can you put together without voltage drop? Also, is there a max distance from the side of the house these can be placed? I don’t have soffits, I have rafters which make it difficult because I would have to roll the rafter or come out about 12 inches from the house. Thank you in advance.

[@handydadtv]

The controller supports up to 45 meters/150 feet max. If you need more, you need a second controller. The distance from the house is subjective. It’s also your choice how to mount them with open rafters tails. You can get ideas on Reddit /r/govee because these are functionally the same.

[@jenisonwildcats10]

So I have an outlet up towards the top of my house can I have them going both ways around the house off of the one plug in if that makes sense or would I have to get two separate for one to go around the left of the house and one around the right? If that makes sense

[@handydadtv]

All of this style of permanent lights requires the controller to be at the start of the string. It’s your call if you want to use two sets or use an extension cord to move the controller to the end of the house.

[@daveo8680]

Handy dadTv how many wire covers does it come with? Is there enough to cover the entire length of the kit if you bought the 98ft kit

[@handydadtv]

Yes

[@goodcitizen4587]

Are they supported by Home Assistant? An integration is mentioned on the HA site.

[@handydadtv]

There is a Nanoleaf integration but I haven’t tested it.

[@fetch2385]

Out of the box they work with home Assistant via mattet but only can set single color initially I found an instruction that said you can pass scene name at turn on. Need to try that still. Installing lights this weekend .

[@goodcitizen4587]

@@handydadtv Thanks!

[@goodcitizen4587]

@@fetch2385 Cool!

[@luvmy40]

Do the wire covers come with the "Smarter" kit and/ or expansion packs?

[@handydadtv]

Good question! Yes the wire covers come with the kits AND the expansion packs.

[@Melinko7902]

Just came to say I love seeing these progress, however having repalced my white soffit wiry black, I'm still sitting on the sidelines waiting for basically this, in black.

[@handydadtv]

Spray paint is an option. Certainly for the wire covers, but even the lights if you mask the lenses.

[@SchultzJH]

Can Govee Pro power and controller work Nanoleaf light strings, or vice versa? Just wondering since splicing accessories look identical and light pucks very similar.

[@handydadtv]

No.

[@chromey42]

I really appreciate your videos. But as for nanoleaf and govee. I cant see spending that kind of money when wled and the new quindor boards like dig quad and dig octa. Now qnindor came out with diff advance so you can put the power supply and the controls in the house. I also like making my own setup. Thanks for the info tho.

[@handydadtv]

Yeah I get it. You and I are tinkerers. Once you’ve been exposed to WLED, the limitations of the Govee/Nanoleaf/Eufy/etc. apps are so frustrating. But there are MILLIONS of people that ARE NOT tinkerers and WLED is too complicated for them. Let alone power injection! Those people are the target market for permanent light kits. And I’ll keep making review videos of those products because the videos do really well. As we speak, I’m installing a DigOcta system in my house. Video coming soon.

[@chromey42]

@@handydadtv I cant wait to see that video. Thanks for everything.

[@davidgortney9902]

Definitely not trying to come across as being rude, but what if everyone who wants them in a different color than white, buy a can or 2 of spray paint and paint them to match the color of wherever you're going to mount them? True, other color availability would just be better, but if they don't offer it and you really want them, spray them. 😊

[@handydadtv]

It would be a bitch to mask all the lenses, but definitely doable.

[@PhilLesh69]

Easy enough to line all the cable covers on a sheet and spray all of them in a few sweeps. But I wouldn't bother with each individual light. You're not putting these at eye level within close proximity to people. You're putting these under soffets and window trim at least seven or eight feet off the ground.

[@Bfordandafter]

Hmm..... those wire covers are a tremendous idea... and the cost couldn't be that much.... I was ready to pull the trigger on the GoVee Pro 200.... which is more than I have to have, but 150 is cutting it close for what I'd like to do.... decisions....the other drawback is the individual on off light control from Nanoleaf at the moment... that should be a fairly simple app upgrade, but you never know how long something like that might take and most of the year I'd be using these as accent/safety lighting around the house and I'd prefer maybe 15 percent of them on at that time... or just in certain spots.

[@handydadtv]

Ooo tough decision.

[@wingmanfpf]

Would buy a set for my pool cage if they came in brown or black.

[@handydadtv]

Spray paint the wire covers.

[@kiranmarrapu]

My HOA won’t allow to have permanent decoration lights throughout the year. Are they not visible during day time?

[@helpme3748]

move

[@joseluisperezjr3285]

No they go under the house eaves, pretty much invisible unless you legit go right up to the house and check

[@handydadtv]

If you like the look of permanent lights but can’t install them “permanently”, I found a creative solution to install them temporarily last year: kzbin.info/www/bejne/aoSYq3l5edd7d6s

[@spaminacan4u]

who in the world is this "Alex A" person lol

[@handydadtv]

You’re welcome

[@mathrocks7591]

How much electric does this use ?

[@handydadtv]

Depends on the number of lights and brightness.

[@mikemotorbike4283]

These things are all 50w generally. I leave my Dreamcolour Govee strip on the lowest setting because I find them too bright, and having them not running on max all the time extends their life. They get dimmer over time on max, say over two years. My outdoor smart lights have a routine with the aid of an Echo Flex with Sensor to ramp up to 100% when detecting motion, and back down to 10% generally for that classy glow. Just enough to see bears, or Sasquatch looking in the window.

[@rsaunders57]

Love the mounting solution. Too bad there is a proprietary controller, it would be a lot more flexible if it worked with WLED.

[@handydadtv]

I’m sure it can. Somebody just needs to figure out the settings.

[@WingspeedGarage]

Sad Nanoleaf don’t seem to make thread supported devices anymore

[@handydadtv]

Yeah. It seems everyone is doing Matter over WiFi instead of Thread.

[@mobgma]

cool product and cheaper than their main competition Govee but they o not offer black where Govee does.

[@handydadtv]

True but it’s easier to paint wire covers than wires.

[@Lensman6]

I ordered a set and they are not available yet apparently. They also have not answered any of my support emails. Be careful.

[@handydadtv]

Supposed to be shipping soon.

[@christittle1131]

One thing very bad about these pucks is all LEDs and rgb going be extra heat which will shorten their life. But being able put a screw to the bracket is GameChanger for sure

[@handydadtv]

Thanks

[@mch2359]

What holiday are these lights for?

[@handydadtv]

Every holiday.

[@kylebarrett4721]

Oh darn this won’t work with my setup…I have Alex B 😞😂

[@handydadtv]

😁

[@K03sport]

who has black soffits? I guess these can be used in an indoor setting, like a club or bar, as well...

[@handydadtv]

A lot of people have darker colored houses these days.

[@blistery1875]

Excellent video, I am very interested in these lights however I see that they are only at the “preorder” stage at present. Fingers are crossed that the target mid October shipping is achieved. Our son in law just mounted the Govee system. His work-around to cover the wires was to have a chum who is a “tin banger” by trade make 8 foot long white sheet metal covers that required 1 inch holes be drilled at each of the lights. The final install looks very professional however it requires a lot of extra work and very expensive if you purchased these custom made at a sheet metal shop. Thanks for sharing 👍

[@handydadtv]

A lot of work indeed! Thanks.

[@mikltgraff]

I like the mounting clip. But they already have a gen 1 and 2 permanent light set and a pro version. So is this just a licensing name product? This would make 4 different puck light kits for them.

[@handydadtv]

Govee has 3 versions. This is Nanoleaf.

[@Julian-1111]

Why do they have wires? Couldn’t they be Bluetooth?

[@handydadtv]

Data could potentially be transmitted wirelessly but power can’t.

[@Julian-1111]

@@handydadtv Oops, thanks, too expensive to put a button battery in each i suppose. I’m back to projector lights then.

[@wt9653]

Your title says no more wires? What do I see at the first minute of the video! Miles and miles of wires. 😂😂😂😂😂 I thought this was a battery and solar powered. 😢

[@handydadtv]

Hopefully you watched long enough to hear my point.

[@blistery1875]

You will still have wires with a battery or solar powered system. Likely more wires than this 110V AC system.

[@wt9653]

@@blistery1875 😳😂 Only wires will be on the strings of lights. You don't have to run 100s of feet of extension cords to the wall socket.

[@blistery1875]

@@wt9653 Hundreds of feet? The majority of homes have outdoor AC outlets so a properly planned installation entails a relatively short extension to reach the outlet. My L shaped bungalow will require a splice and a short extension. “Easy Peasy” Solar powered option has a much greater possibility of longer power supply in order to achieve the best solar panel location. Before watching this video, did you think that each light has its own dedicated little solar panel so that wires were not required? Even though that would not work due to the installation of these units being installed where the sun doesn’t shine? I think you did.😆🤪 I stand by my original statement to you.

[@wt9653]

@@blistery1875 Very few New houses do. You have to have a custom built homes with special requests to have it added. That come with price Any houses before the 1980s only have one outlet. 1960s and older have no outlets.

[@AgentOffice]

Nice wireless

[@handydadtv]

Thanks

[@bme7491]

Buy now before GoVee sues Nanoleaf

[@handydadtv]

Have you seen all the copycats out there? Nanoleaf is late to the game.

[@mooganstooker2419]

You can say Christmas lights.

[@handydadtv]

They can be used for every holiday.

[@waylinnelson]

If only they came in black! That was a miss!

[@handydadtv]

Yes it was.

[@101steel4]

Holiday? Lights

[@handydadtv]

You can use them year round for every holiday.

[@RickLaymance]

Did he say it is compatible with Alex A? 😂😂 Never heard it pronounced like that.

[@dtouw]

He says it like that so it doesn't trigger people's Alexa

[@handydadtv]

You’re welcome.

[@robertmiller7849]

You forgot to check off KZbin's paid placement. According to KZbin's paid placement documentation, "free product" is considered paid placement.

[@handydadtv]

Read the policy again and show me where it says demo products are the same as paid placements.

[@robertmiller7849]

@@handydadtv Don't play word games. Demo products = "free of charge products" The link won't come through - so check you spam in the next comment. Here's the whole section, "Videos about a product or service because there's a connection between the creator and the maker of the product or service. Videos created for a company or business in exchange for compensation or free of charge products/services. Videos where that company or business’s brand, message, or product is included directly in the content and the company has given the creator money or free of charge products to make the video."

[@robertmiller7849]

@@handydadtvFYI: The IRS also considers the free product as income.

[@handydadtv]

@robertmiller7849 You can do what you like on your channel, but I disagree. The policy is all about PAID compensation. Demo products are not compensation. From support.google.com/youtube/answer/154235?hl=en#zippy=%2Cwhat-do-we-mean-when-we-talk-about-paid-product-placements-sponsorships-endorsements: “You may include paid product placements, endorsements, sponsorships, or other content that requires disclosure to viewers in your videos. You have to let us know if you include any of those by selecting the paid promotion box in your video details. Paid product placements are pieces of content that are created for a third party in exchange for compensation. This content is also where the third party's brand, message, or product is integrated directly into the content. Sponsorships are pieces of content that have been financed in whole or in part by a third party. Sponsorships generally promote the brand, message or product of the third party without integrating the brand, message, or product directly into the content.”

[@handydadtv]

@robertmiller7849 I declare it if I receive a 1099. But a demo set of Christmas lights to make a video is NOT compensation.

[@L0st-n0found]

Shame no black. If your house is darker trim Unless you have a little lip to hide those are glaring.

[@handydadtv]

Definitely agree.

[@Truthbomb918]

Explain the thumbnail which screams click bait which no one like plus Alex A?

[@handydadtv]

It’s self-explanatory.

[@anthonyf3957]

Govee wannabe

[@handydadtv]

Nanoleaf leapfrogged Govee with this product.

[@sikosis999]

all insanely over priced. . . if you spent enough time talk'n to someone from say superbrite you'd be pissed at just how cheap all those parts are and how easy it is to make yourself . . .

[@handydadtv]

$315 is the price of dinner for two at a decent steakhouse. It’s less than a car payment. It’s about the price of a good seat at an NFL game. I don’t really see it as overpriced. But I suppose you can build your own TV too.