Hans Niemann vs Piers Morgan - Hikaru LMAO!!

[@Grannyknockers]

Imagine writing some troll comment in the chessbrah chat and it escalates all the way to national television lmao. That commenter’s a legend

[@voongnz]

lol that troll comment went to international news

[@ZiggyAndTheSpiderFromMars]

Piers: "How do you disprove you used anal beads?" Is this real or a SNL skit? Why did Hans even do this?

[@VACatholic]

happens all the time. Remember the urine dossier?

[@joshboy88420]

Chessbrahs > Chess community > Elon musk > Everywhere

[@tenkkutn]

It was McLovin

[@Cdix]

I knew as soon as Piers asked why he brought his lawyer with him that this interview was going to go off the rails😂😂

[@JacobsKrąnųg]

ok cringaru fanboi

[@genkugames9616]

​@@JacobsKrąnųgthis dude supports the ANALitic player

[@ishtiaqueparvez9269]

@@JacobsKrąnųg whats with the hating? God these 12 yrs olds too!

[@JacobsKrąnųg]

@@ishtiaqueparvez9269 yeah I know! these people hating Hans are so childish

[@Cdix]

@@JacobsKrąnųg literally talking about you lmao

[@KeldonA]

Piers missed a cracking opportunity to ask him how it felt to "clench a win" against Magnus.

[@gappleofdiscord9752]

cracking

[@Nobody-df4is]

The kick 'Magnus's but' comment was quite funny. 😆

[@kingkillah101]

this comment wins the internet

[@karrolis7]

❌

[@smalam64]

hilarious bro.

[@TheMasterOfCeremony]

When Piers asked “what did you feel when you read that?”, my brain naturally answered “he felt a buzz” 🤣

[@Lgg130]

Mine was "I felt butthurt"

[@JustJustKen]

"I felt something got clenched inside me."

[@jond-yx7cr]

little tickle morse code

[@JacobsKrąnųg]

oh wow so you have a brain? this is already an achievement in your life, keep it up bro

[@TheMasterOfCeremony]

@@JacobsKrąnųg that came out of nowhere, but OK

[@peterpandemic7996]

Half way through this interview both Hans and his 'friend' are thinking 'shit why did we do this interview '

[@alisioardiona727]

They thought that 10 seconds in when they saw they would speak about anal beads for 30 minutes.

[@benpessoa4013]

He says the online games were meaningless but at the same time says that he felt pressure to increase his rating. So they actually had a lot of meaning to him and it's the reason he decided to cheat. He wanted to play higher rated players. He wanted a higher profile in the online chess community. He wanted all these things through a higher rating. He was competing against players who wanted the same things. Hans cheated them from the same opportunities he valued. So they weren't meaningless to him or the other players.

[@QueekHeadtaker]

You solved it, though being a cheater is paired directly with being a compulsive liar, especially lying about not being a cheater. Compulsive liars never run out of stories and never admit defeat.

[@templarroystonofvasey]

Very good point. Maybe Hans thought fudging a few online games, cutting a few corners to get ahead quickly isn't a big deal.

[@rwefree9469]

You made the point I was going to make but you did it better. His comparison to pickup basketball was ridiculous.

[@hello-nq3ze]

Think he mispoke there. He meant to say that online games aren't as impactful as over-the-board FIDE tournaments. He wanted to say that online games was a way for him to learn and test himself and that's why he used cheating tools.

[@17aladdin]

That was pn point.

[@wZem]

Only Piers Morgan would go on and on about the anal beads in an interview. I can't believe Hans agreed to this. Absolute comedy gold. And with Hikaru reacting to it is the icing on the cake.

[@rorschach775]

Piers is the anal bead of "news" interviews. They deserve each other.

[@bradmodd7856]

You can't write this stuff!

[@JacobsKrąnųg]

haha comedy gold so funni oh my god haha someone's tragedy is so funni ohmygottt!!!!!!1111oneone haha cringaru laughed at it so do i!!1one

[@wZem]

@@JacobsKrąnųg Nobody forced Hans to do an interview on Television and nobody made him choose Piers Morgan as the interviewer. This is all his own choice.

[@SassePhoto]

"What have you learned if you were not cheating?" - Hans is a chess comedian

[@mlmg0817]

Maybe for a low IQ, you know all the times you can learn something from anything, just try to be curious enough. That question is moronic at best. I guess media people are good at making a mountain out of a mole. And only high IQ persons are clever enough not to fall for it.

[@zaria3]

Chess clown 🤡 😂😂😂

[@Biskawow]

Why? He was falsely accused of cheating in the game vs Magnus where Magnus played like dogshit and lost. Ofc he learned from it all, he learned you brainless fanboi drones ganging up on him exist but your opinions are worthless, he learned Pierce Morgan is a moron and he learned Magnus ego is overinflated. For a kid those are pretty huge lessons.

[@Chadok89]

He even felt the need to cheat the interview with a lawyer sending him signals...

[@sifaroz6316]

to have a better haircut of course

[@CoffeeTrav]

Watching hans lawyer try to keep a straight face killed me

[@Paradelton]

Hans is the best at not helping his case 😂

[@freddymars2014]

The vibrator speaks for itself

[@listen2lucki]

Plus the recent incident I’m like hans how many mistakes are we going to allow

[@comal90]

@@listen2luckiwhat did he do recently?

[@listen2lucki]

destroyed a hotel room@@comal90

[@MSMNBC]

Hikari seems very likeable, Magnus is a rock n rolla, and Hans seems uptight and anal. Just my opinion because I have never met them but....

[@ITadminNovusBolashak]

Im really impressed how Piers can ask those questions and didn't even smile😂😂😂

[@TehRasia]

I'm starting to believe that Piers must have aspergers syndrome. He, while being completely stoic, just keeps hounding Hans on the anal beads lmao

[@kannix386]

he doesn't smile because he actually believes it. he doesn't care about the truth. all he does is try to invite controversial guests just so he can not be the most degenerae asshole in the room for just a moment.

[@IgnacioChavez]

Im not impressed he's trash

[@chess919]

Well he was trying to keep it together for the sake of interview. But it's definitely a shameful thing for a GM to be accused of such thing. It's beyond pathetic.

[@hmm6667]

He s just old

[@KeldonA]

Taking this interview has got to be the biggest blunder of Hans' life. Either that, or his rationalization of cheating, which made him look a billion times worse. Him saying "online games are meaningless" kinda suggests he won't have a problem cheating online in the future. Bad

[@sillyking1991]

not only that, it suggests that his 'apology' for that cheating is entirely empty. it suggests that he didn't, in fact, learn his lesson. That he genuinely doesn't understand why cheating is such a big deal. in fact, it directly suggests a mentality that could very easily justify cheating in actual real tournaments. "Magnus has plenty of money and wins, another one doesn't matter to him, its meaningless" If the reward for winning the game is the only thing that gives the competition meaning then...oof.

[@templarroystonofvasey]

Why? Hans is never going to get rid of his black clouds hovering over him, so as they say "all publicity is good publicity".

[@thecapitalisticdictator2256]

​@@templarroystonofvaseyit's really not though. Sometimes that can work ig, but in Hans case it'll probably only hurt him more. Since no one outside of chess cares about him besides the anal plug accusation, which only serves to make a good joke about and then move on as seen here with Piers. Then in Chess, cheating is a huge no no, so that reputation of being a cheat does nothing to benefit you there. Probably only makes it harder to negotiate brand deals and such, since you have this stigma that you are a cheater. So in the chess world he possibly loses out on all sorts of deals & sponsorships due to his reputation as a cheater, and outside chess it only serves as a passing joke (not anything to make up for on the possible money opportunity losses in Chess). So no his reputation being bad, certainly doesn't help him.

[@templarroystonofvasey]

@@thecapitalisticdictator2256That's just your opinion. If the likes of Warlord Blair can return to politics despite half a million deaths on his hands, Hans spreading his name as much as possible gaining infamy, will work in his favour long term. Who still remembers "Nasty nick"?

[@henkdachief]

i agree with him, cheating in online chess is literally meaningless, some people use an engine to get better and to learn even. they are not bad people or even untrustworthy in over the board games or cheaters in general life. using an engine in online chess is so normal (there is literally an engine running at all times), using it to cheat is a very small step to take.

[@razortongue9000]

Piers Morgan: "Are you wearing an** beads right now?" Hans' Lawyer: *leg touch* Hans: "I have never used an** beads over the board." Piers: "Can I... please... see the beads?"

[@tommaso8819]

he never denied using them off the board. ;)

[@tuff_lover]

@@tommaso8819 Only horny Reddit fucktards believe in beads, bcz that's how they view sexuality in this rather off kilter context.

[@pablostreams]

this is cyber bullying

[@kidnicky7489]

lol

[@ABAtrading]

Yeah fr in the best way possible tho lol 😂

[@Michael-fr6lo]

I feel like if he wasn’t such an asshole more people would notice that

[@НазарійСупрунович-л1з]

Yep

[@gamekiller0123]

Hans: "These games were meaningless" "Online games are meaningless" also Hans: "I wanted to increase my rating that's why I cheated"

[@justsomeguywithagoatee8337]

Guy can't even make decent excuses to validate his cheating

[@paupajares9678]

so he could compete against higher rated ppl

[@haqu123321]

Yes the typical excuse after cheating, "I didnt matter" only after the consequences reached him. If it didn't matter, why did he feel the need to cheat? So something mattered. What was it? His need for a higher rank. Why did he have to cheat to get it? Because it would be hard and take more time if he didnt cheat. What an absolute clown with 0 logic.

[@DonLee1980]

@@paupajares9678 he couldn't even beat lower rating people... why would he want to compete with higher rating people? get whooped even harder then.

[@paupajares9678]

@@DonLee1980 i mean it kinda worked seeing how he became a super gm. Anyways, online rating really is pretty meaningless. Dont agree with him cheating tho. It was wrong, but cheating online and cheating otb with money on the line really is different. But it seems to me like yall wont even hear him out. Especially hikaru, he was on the defensive for the whole video. Like when he pulled the "krammnik (i think it was him, dont remember now) said online games matter so online games matter" like wtf is even that argument. Really stupid reasoning overall. Or when he decided to ignore that a blatant case of irony was in fact, irony

[@MrFloridajim29]

I can't believe this was a real interview 😂😂

[@jamesmoniz5263]

Imo it makes Peirs look worse than Hans. Hans isn’t someone who commands much respect, but Piers conducting this bad faith interview with a very clearly biased prospective makes him look like a huge jerk and bully to anyone informed on the topic, and makes Hans look like an idiot to anyone who doesn’t realize why Piers conflating over the board and online is dumb, and how anal beads have never been a serious part of the allegations. I don’t like Hans for sure, but Piers is the one who I’d least like to spend 5 minutes in a room with after seeing this

[@menace202]

@@jamesmoniz5263 You're clearly not familiar with Piers then. He's inflammatory on purpose. He does this to a lot of his interviewees

[@kannix386]

@@jamesmoniz5263piers morgan is a despicable human being. this interview is his mildest offence

[@Cdix]

@@jamesmoniz5263agreed. GREAT entertainment tho so I’m selfishly not against him roasting people. Hans should’ve never taken this interview to begin with

[@jamesmoniz5263]

@@menace202does that make it better in some way? Like if he doesn't it regularly that doesn't make it any better...

[@andrewmoonbeam321]

For someone who would rather have their history of cheating forgotten, he's going to great lengths to make people remember him as 'That Hans guy who cheated'.

[@ahmadchemkhi4240]

I think he’s going to lengths to prove he didn’t cheat against magnus. It’s called damage control. People that only heard of him through the scandal only have the impression that he cheated against magnus. This is his way of clearing that up.

[@NavaDownSouth]

@@ahmadchemkhi4240its like robbing a bank then 10 years later you go to a bank and they detain you and investigate you 😂😂 you always cry about that 1 time you were innocent

[@carlsanders7824]

Agreed. Just move on and play great chess---which he is currently not doing.

[@wallysullivan9315]

It was already too late for that long before this interview. Now in his mind his only chance is to switch it over to "the guy who proved the whole chess community wrong". Of course this is a terrible idea with no hard evidence proving his innocence, and at this point "guy who took it on the chin and became legitimately great chess player" would be much better

[@KeldonA]

@@ahmadchemkhi4240 It is better to let people think you are a fool than to open your mouth and remove all doubt! Hans is not helping himself

[@hyperhippyhippohopper]

Hans thinking Piers would have his back in restoring his reputation is one of the wildest expectations that never came to fruition.

[@Ozu.mannn1]

i think that's not the case, cause if thats true why did he bring his lawyer to answer his questions.

[@SELFMADE300]

People thinking they know the motivations of people is also pretty wild. He has one of the best lawyers in the country and I bet he did not recommend this interview. If I would guess, hans did it for the PR for his charity alone. Piers is a clown and everyone knows that, he wont restore anything, but has a lot of views.

[@hyperhippyhippohopper]

@@Ozu.mannn1 The lawyer is there so Hans doesn't run his dumb mouth while Piers fires dart after dart of infuriating questions Hans is nowhere near being capable of handling without blurting out something worth going to court over.

[@JBroMCMXCI]

@@SELFMADE300his lawyer is shit

[@inoderlulzer5163]

​@@SELFMADE300Yeah, I think he even gets more views than Hikaru 🤔.

[@Ben-xj6su]

The lawyer trying to act human and thinking about how many times per minute should one blink

[@konkerouf]

Also, by qualifying those games as "meaningless", hn is actually shooting himself in the foot. If you're ready to go the extent of cheating for "meaningless games", it tells me that you can go way farther for "meaningful" ones. by definition, you should not care about losing meaningless games. This is the worse defense angle you can adopt and im a bit sad pierce didnt go into this line of questions

[@JakeLondonRivers]

The whole logic doesn’t make sense, he said cheating in meaningless games helped him gain rank? Those are the easiest games to win when you’re gaining rank lol why cheat

[@thomdotexe]

Hans "I regret cheating it was very stupid of me" Also Hans "Those games where I cheated are meaningless"

[@dwightPhoenix]

@@thomdotexe regretted cheating overall. Meaningless games he said were only at 16. Not at TT when he was 12. Get the context right

[@rohan1864]

@@dwightPhoenix It was always a very convenient framing on Hans' part to stress out how he was ONLY 16 years old when he cheated, when it was really only 2 years prior to this whole controversy, it's not like he became a whole different person over that period. Besides, he kept on cheating for several months after his 17th birthday as well, those are the last instances before he got banned. And the games he cheated in when he was 16-17 were very much in Titled Tuesdays, meaning they were for money. Check the report again.

[@dwightPhoenix]

@@rohan1864 I was responding to the incorrectness of people interpreting what he said. As it relates to the report, IDK others have said it js not very true others have said it is......Idk. there are alot of biased opinions going around tho.

[@rohan1864]

@@dwightPhoenix ok I understand you, though upon inspection I still don't think the relevance of the original comment relied too heavily on the distinction you made

[@DC66DC]

Yeah in my opinion it's even worse that he apparently cheated on a meaningless game because if he would do that imagine what he would do in a meaningful game. Makes no sense too why go out of your way to cheat in a game that means nothing? Then to say he did it to raise his rating on the website... If a game raises/lowers your rating and you cheat because the higher rating means something to you... How is that same game meaningless if by his own definitely it meant something to him.

[@natureiscool4364]

When Hans said his lawyer was a friend and a confidant, I immediately started humming The Golden Girls theme song.

[@lifesnotfair]

I haven't laughed so hard in a long time. I actually felt sorry for Hans, with so many questions about the anal beads... 😂

[@rafaelpaquete3350]

i felt bad bc im pretty positive that he cheated and he was getting destroyed in this interview. Any person with the minimum knowledge about body language can tell that his speech througout the whole discussion was very incongruent and evasive, he couldnt have make it more clearer that he cheated

[@seinundzeiten]

yes Hans looked like a fool in this interview and Piers made sure he would look stupid...

[@payload1174]

@@rafaelpaquete3350He didn’t cheat in his game against Magnus, every unbiased GM and serious expert says so. It’s this misinformation and speculative reasoning to always deduce Hans a cheater that is incredibly annoying.

[@rafaelpaquete3350]

@@payload1174 okay but hes lying on something, I dont know about what, but yeah he obviously cheated more than twice his whole life

[@floolo1]

@@rafaelpaquete3350then tell us- i'm really interested. how did he cheat and why did he blunder the win in the endgame?

[@goelarna]

"Online games are meaningless" - How to reduce your credibility to 0 in chess circles

[@Alekhine01]

Used to be it did not, but now, wow. People build their careers off of streaming and coaching based on online success it seems.

[@puppygirltrish]

honestly right??

[@heritage-musicdownmemoryla4922]

Hans has moral indifference on cheating. Instead of asserting how cheating is bad, he emphasised on how online games are meaningless.. meaning its ok to resort to anything in those meaningless games.

[@lluhu]

Good point

[@Siuulolñ]

The thing is. Even if he cheated in every fucking online game, he's proven how good he is ovee the board where it's impossible to cheat

[@heritage-musicdownmemoryla4922]

@@Siuulolñ what is "good" if one doesn't know the difference of what is right or wrong?

[@lordespion8789]

@@heritage-musicdownmemoryla4922 in chess, and as a gm, good is when you beat other gms

[@heritage-musicdownmemoryla4922]

@@lordespion8789 In chess beating others by cheating is not good. N why would one cheat if one is good

[@RD-rm6qm]

That’s some of the best chess content I’ve ever witnessed.. and absolutely no chess is involved. Just insane

[@thecakeisalie8135]

This is singlehandedly the best video and interview of all time.

[@lionheart4552]

Really ?

????! I don't know when we'll actually be able to trust Hans, but this butt plug thing doesn't have ANY credibility. He deserves the benefit of the doubt mainly because we may be facing a brain that is not only intelligent, but also unusually functioning -- we have to be cautious because we know little about this human machine. Whatever the weather brings, in this interview Hans behaved with great dignity in front of a disqualified interviewer. And you, Hikaru, laughed and then, contradictorily, said it was all very sad, wild!! This rotten journalist was wild.

[@patrickmahoney2307]

Best interview ever?? The interview was super cringe. Piers asked Hans anal beads questions 5 times

[@profanemagic5671]

@ The answer to the question of "when can we believe hans again" is: never. He cheated. That's what cheating does to you. If you do it once, you'll be doubted forever. But on the bright sight, it's REALLY easy to avoid that: Just don't fucking cheat. If you have not learned that by the age of 12, there's nothing happening anymore in regards to that. Concidering that, it's highly likely you'd do so again 8 years later. (4 years, if you count his cheating at 16) Piers always does this. That's his stick. Hans is stupid for thinking he's getting a "fair interview".

@@profanemagic5671 You must be a judge with the fury of saints & with pockets full of stone. His idea that human beings are ready at 12 years of age is a stupidity that I thought was not possible since Freud discovered the unconscious. You must think you are ethically perfect... Therefore, you are the one who is not trustworthy. In fact, you were willing to accept (in a complacent, resigned and meek way) Piers' lack of ethics, as if the blame were solely on the person who accepted the interview!! You have no logic, much less ethics. Anyway, time will tell who Hans is, as no one can guarantee ANYTHING.

[@JBroMCMXCI]

Doing an interview with Piers is such a hilariously bad idea. This is great lmao

[@danocnl]

Holy moly thanks for covering this. I usually avoid Pierce Morgan like the plague, but this is pure gold.

[@augustlavdal6187]

I feel like anytime Hans tries to do something, he always digs himself deeper and deeper into a hole where he will eventually never recover

[@lluhu]

Is very difficult to get the respect back after getting caught cheating, in chess, in love, in anything. The only way he could get it back is by playing more and talking less and let the time pass.

[@donotlookatmyprofilepictur6795]

@@lluhuhe didn’t really get caught cheating which is a big misunderstanding Some dude commented on chessbrahs channel that he had used anal beads to cheat Then the comment blew up And then somehow so many people believed the comment and decided to spread it 😂😂😂😂 He might’ve cheated but not through anal beads I believe

[@lluhu]

@@donotlookatmyprofilepictur6795 Hans himself said that he was caught cheating twice when he was 12 and 16. He said that those were the only two times he had cheated, which means he was caught 100% of the times he actually cheated...quite a high percentage in my opinion.

[@pbp6741]

Contradicting himself, ‘games are meaningless, I wanted a higher rating.’

[@Thim01]

I think he means relativly meaningless in comparison to FIDE games

[@pbp6741]

@@Thim01 He said himself he values a higher online rating. Concurrently, he’s robbing other chess players of their online rating and dismissing it as meaningless. He’s not a good person.

[@Thim01]

@@pbp6741 once again, I think he means relatively to over the board FIDE games. Ofc it is kinda important, and he obviously cared, but his point was that its not logical to directly assume that he is cheating over the board at an important tournament, just because he cheated on these online games

[@SoulHuN7eR]

Again, it's so funny how he went after Magnus for the accusations but NOT Elon for doing the real reputation damage. 😂

[@jedinxf7]

that's not a legal team you want to be up against as a private citizen. deeper pockets in a defendant can be a two way street.

[@martingrzanna2005]

right. Imagine Hans sueing Elon. Just imagine 🙂

[@SoulHuN7eR]

Exactly my point. He is both a cheater and a clown. Allegedly. 💁🏼‍♂️

[@kemokula1170]

@@jedinxf7 Isn't it sad and scary that basically justice won't be served unless you have enough money? Thats really a scary fact. Not saying that Hans did or did not cheat, but just the realisation of this is kinda disheartening. If someone who has a lot of money does you wrong, you can't get justice because of their financial status. That is the premise that these comments have given.

[@SoulHuN7eR]

@@kemokula1170 this is the world we live in and things like that happened again and again over the years. Back in the day you used your influence to take someone else's life, land or both. These days governments vote for laws to strip someone of their dignity or even freedom and even legalize some fucked up shit to justify a person or party or even release them from prison. The law is used to basically suppress the weak. 💁🏼‍♂️

[@PeteQuad]

I laughed my ass off yesterday watching this. It's so great to see Hikaru have the same reaction and laugh along with him.

[@xXxBladeStormxXx]

Same.

[@kevindownes9474]

ngl Hikaru's laugh cures my depression

[@inoderlulzer5163]

​@@kevindownes9474Well, then I wish you a good recovery from those predicaments.

[@TooCuteToSell]

Hikaru is laughing because he feels bad for Hans and can’t believe Piers Morgan would be so uneducated to ask and say these things in public

[@maureenerickson-robertshaw3985]

The most interesting part of this is, if the game was so meaningless, why would someone cheat at it? Psychologically, that is fascinating and revealing. I would trust someone less if they cheated when it did not matter.

[@Ockerlord]

wasn't it to some extent something like he wanted to climb rating faster in order to be matched against well known players more often, which did help his stream viewership or something. So those individual games didn't mean much, just getting a few online rating points faster.

[@davidwhite2949]

Great point.

[@KnowledgePurposeOnly]

This is a very vague point. He just wanted to use the engine out of curiosity in random online games, which I agree is not acceptable, but the backlash he is facing is a million times greater than his act of cheating at age 12&18.

[@afonsomendes6907]

He wanted to climb the ladder faster to play better players. And ofcourse online games are meaningless, if you cheat and get caught, you get banned, as he did, big whoop. No one gets harmed.

[@kylebroussard5952]

*I love how my man brings his lawyer then proceeds to say countless dumb and incriminating things in front of him* , very memeable. But seriously though at 8:50 Piers asks Hans about cheating at 16 and he just shrugs it off and says "those were just meaningless games"... So what you're saying is you'd cheat even if nothing was at stake at all? But against the world champion, you wouldn't cheat? That checks out. That's like saying usually, "I use steroids for my casual gym sesh". But then you fight Mike Tyson and beat him? Nah, you quit that years ago.

[@whitecrayon3281]

God, I feel for Hans in the sense that the beads story is ridiculous and inflammatory lol but god damn he needs to get out of his own way haha

[@kingkillah101]

America thinks Piers is a complete joke muckraker, and Hans choosing to go on his show just further damages his over-all image.

[@Green-fo8ei]

I think I actually agree with Hans' points, it's just that he can't get over his own ego and present facts as just facts.

[@patogordo1385]

@@kingkillah101piers is amazing

[@FirstSynapse]

I think Piers was a bit of a piece of shit and I don't agree with some of his points but I can't deny this was very funny. Hans was also pretty terrible and almost equally funny here.

[@patogordo1385]

@@kingkillah101 you say “America thinks” when it is only your family who thinks such thing hahaha

[@CorruptControl]

His lawyer was being sarcastic and snarky in the manner in which he said “you’re a better person”. Doesn’t come across well in this instance but I thought it was kinda obvious.

[@yousifabdu6420]

One thing he doesn't realize, forget about the money, but if someone beats you comfortably in an an online game and you didn't know they were cheating, they will hold a psychological advantage against you even in OTB games, so they are not meaningless games.

[@bjornlangoren3002]

Yup. And even if they had never ever cheated, but displayed behavior that might suggest they are cheating, the opponent will be at a handicap.

[@ckq]

At least for me. I play online under an alias. Probably different for GMs.

[@davidp5262]

26:44. The fact that he is so emotional about it suggests that he probably has cheated OTB. He just hasn’t been caught. The fact that you have never been caught is not “unequivocal” or “statistical” proof of anything.

[@what-h3j]

What I gather from this is that Hans has actually learned nothing at all and is still lying

[@damned1313]

Hans: My chess career is ruined. Also Hans: Hold my beer

[@Cdix]

Can’t wait till he gets Magnutted on next time they play each other

[@JacobsKrąnųg]

your dad a few years ago: I wanna throw something against the wall your mom: hold my fetus

[@Cdix]

@@JacobsKrąnųg …crickets

[@freddymars2014]

Hans: Hold my vibrator

[@adamstewart247]

It's hilarious that just as everyone is moving on, Hans makes himself look ridiculous and sus once again. I agree with Hikaru "Why would Hans go on Piers Morgan?" He got totally eviscerated

[@trout3685]

How did he get eviscerated? Piers conducted himself like a child. He's clearly just trying to get views and not actually interested in this at all. How many times did he bring up anal beads? I mean honestly it's funny if your 12 years old sure but some people really want to know whether magnus was being a little bitch about losing or if hans actually cheated.

[@kathrynb130]

He’s obviously arrogant or ignorant and answered that when he immediately went off topic trying to promote his scholarship and himself.

[@jaredreeves451]

I mean he’s been clearly arrogant, but peirs was also largely antagonistic and unprofessional in the conduct of the interview. I don’t trust Hans, but considering he’s a 20 year old kid who’s whole career is basically marred with no chance for reconciliation….. I don’t think either side looked good in this interview

[@kathrynb130]

@@jaredreeves451 first time watching Piers?

[@fintan9218]

Its beyond just being arrogant, he likely is an actual narcissist. Hopefully the traits become less pronounced by time he is 25, which sometimes happens.

[@jootpepet]

Got on an interview to play the victim Got victimized 🤣

[@GeekonaBike]

The amount of pressure this kid is under is more than most people could stand up to.

[@Cdix]

1000%. Underrated comment. Imagine being on national tv being berated by a internationally known host of the show

[@robertwilson3866]

@@Cdix It's different when you choose to go on a show. All publicity is good publicity.

[@joakimkempe57]

Quite disappointed that Piers never asked him to elaborate on the likelyhood of getting caught 100 percent of the times he cheated.

[@IvanIvanov-bj2rw]

This kid is 19 years old firstly. Secondly he's not the first time under the cameras. He's btw the pro strimmer

[@cyruslupercal9493]

Not enough pressure apparently, since he decided to to on this interview.

[@DeweyTwo-ey]

The lawyer touching is leg is not weird at all, it is a code/sign. When my lawyer in court did it to me (hand touchies) it was a code for me to shut the fuck up and let her(lawyer) speak.

[@SomeGuy-qd2sb]

Hans Niemann speaks for himself……and occasionally his lawyer too.

[@at0micsheep]

The suspicious part for me was the after game interview after beating magnus. He could not explain the position and called it "obviously winning" ( the engine said it was losing). He stumbled over the explanation as to why it was winning despite playing perfect moves during the game.

[@lordespion8789]

Maybe the position was winning from a human pov but engine found a hidden/brilliant move which was hard for a human to see.

[@visibletoallusersonyoutube5928]

@lordespion8789 yup and even at this level you hear people "play for a win" there's so many draws that they literally have to choose to attack. And they only do that when they're pretty confident there's something winning in the board. While I'm not a fan of his interview or him as a person it's not incriminating at all.

[@danny208YT]

Love how piers made a mockery of Hans

[@dwightPhoenix]

????

[@anniellusion]

@@dwightPhoenix So funny seeing hans fanboys not realising how idiotic he came off in this interview, and how he just confirms he is a digusting cheater who deserves no respect lmfao.

[@Mataus]

@@dwightPhoenix What exactly do you not understand?

[@SimBol1216]

​@@MatausPiers made a mockery of himself, if anything.

[@cyruslupercal9493]

Hans sycophants big mad he he.

[@Axiomatic75]

Wow, Piers really chose violence when he woke up that day

[@Jon3sy1990]

You could see Piers holding it in when he said what hans was accused of 😂😂 Hikarus reaction throughout this interview is absolute gold! Hahahaha

[@intotheunknown21]

IDK, it feels forced.

[@connectingthedots100]

I say it again, people who cheat when "it doesn't matter" are those who enjoy the power and control of getting one over on the other party. They are also know as narcissistic or sociopathic.

[@zugzwangelist]

So true.

[@templarroystonofvasey]

Have you ever cheated at Monopoly or cards? How about coursework and exams during your education? Maybe something more grey like finding money on the street as a teenager and putting it in your wallet? Chess players are the same as everyone else and I doubt there's many Jesus status figures amongst them.

[@connectingthedots100]

@@templarroystonofvasey Are you like that?

[@tatbaz1]

@templarroystonofvasey No not everyone is like that actually. If you are cool with people that operate like that you wil get burned , hopefully then you will learn from it.

[@templarroystonofvasey]

@@connectingthedots100 Have you ever cheated? I think first you need to paint yourself as Jesus before asking others to confess.

[@NYCFenrir]

If someone cheats in a "meaningless " game for $200, I think they are more likely to cheat in an important game for $20,000. Now if he said it would have been too hard for him to cheat in those games, and that's why he didn't I'd believe him more.

[@dwightPhoenix]

He said meaningless at 16...not at 12 for TT

[@payload1174]

@@dwightPhoenixYes, the way Hikaru twisted Hans’s words instantly was very dishonest.

[@floolo1]

up to this day no one has a clue how he had cheated. not defending him but the internet went so wild on this story its ridiculous. no one even seems to be interested that the game against carlsen wasn't great and he even blundered a win in the endgame. the game was much more about carlsen playing a sub par game (even poor game by his standards) and not about hans playing flawless. no matter what has happened there this game was well within the capabilities of hans. if you like him or not

[@NYCFenrir]

@@floolo1 There's various ways, but yes no one can confirm it after the fact unless he admits it. I am not saying that he even cheated, but his reasoning isn't sound. His reasoning is the same as saying he only stole $20 because it's not much, but he would never steal $2,000

[@payload1174]

@@floolo1 Someone with critical thinking in the comments 😭 god bless

[@SoulHuN7eR]

The fact that we are still talking about it is comedy gold. 😂

[@Tomiply]

15:10 He's obviously talking about playing against a random 2000 rated player or something in a casual game online, not the world elite, like MVL, you, Caruana, Carlsen and so on in a serious tournament online game.

[@thegorn]

22:48. Hikaru's argument that someone's reaction to bullying determines the size of the bullying is extremely floored logic. For example if someone gets cyberbullied by 2 people and then suicides, doesn't not make it bigger than hundreds of thousands of people bullying Hans, just because Hans has not commited suicide over it. It's almost as if Hikaru wants Hans to commit suicide. You're a sick man Hikaru.

[@yeahtbh.161]

You're right. He was reveling in this situation.

[@TheWizardsOfOz]

0:46 "I'm very very thankful for them for believing in me" bro it is your own legal team, why wouldn't they believe you, unless you know you did something wrong. 😂

[@Marc-pu1wm]

Hans said towards the end of the interview Chess should be spread all over the world...kind of like his cheeks at a security check before tournaments LMFAO

[@Konstantine-G]

Morgan could've gotten him by asking "if these games at 16 were so meaningless, what motivated you to cheat?", why care about elo and cheating if they're so meaningless? he certainly cared enough to cheat and it meant a lot to him to gain elo off of it.

[@ravecrab]

The obvious detail Hans is glossing desperately over is that he was streaming at the time and making income as a streamer. The higher his rating and the more prestigious players he got to play, the more viewers and income he was likely to gain. Those games were anything but "meaningless".

[@Zec123ify]

He could counter that with everything at that age is meaningfull, first crush, f grades and so on.. But today looking at it, those games were meaningless

[@fintan9218]

@@Zec123ify that makes no sense, the games were objectively not meaningless. Theyre also not meaningless now as its was caused all his problems. Magnus would not have accused Hans if Hans had never cheated. I get giving second chances especially when mistakes are made while young. However Hans has done nothing but downplay what he admits to and denying the other more damning cheating online. To get a second chance you have to actually show you learned from your mistakes, Hans has done the opposite.

[@thegorn]

The fact that Hikaru gives a "shout out" to the people who started a toxic defamatory meme against Hans, says a lot about Hikaru.

[@nosowl]

Attempting to justify cheating shows how little integrity he has. If the game was meaningless why did he cheat? Because it wasn’t meaningless!

[@ambition112]

0:29: 🔍 Chess prodigy Hans Neiman and his lawyer discuss recent case and settlement. 3:44: 🔍 The video discusses the media's attack on the speaker and the pressure they faced, but denies the specific allegation of using anal beads while playing chess. 7:10: 🤔 The speaker is confused about a report that may have mixed up details about a chess tournament they participated in as a child. 10:42: 🎮 Online games are often dismissed as meaningless, but MVL, a French player, disagrees. 13:32: 🎮 The video discusses a debate about a player's past cheating incident in an online game and whether it should affect their current reputation. 17:02: 🤔 The speaker finds the way someone phrased something questionable and discusses conflicting statements made about a criminal situation. 19:55: 🔥 The speaker claims to have not cheated in chess and continues to play at a high level, despite being attacked by bullies. 23:43: 🤔 A discussion about cheating in chess and the accusation against a client. 26:36: 🤔 The interviewee expresses confusion about why they are being interviewed and denies cheating in a chess game. Recap by Tammy AI

[@werners5191]

Hans did not help his case when in an interview after the game he won against Magnus, he could not explain his moves.

[@VACatholic]

So we're supposed to believe that this genius cheated in exactly 2 games, 4 years apart, solely to increase his ranking? If he only cheated twice in 4 years, how would that impact his ranking? Two wins, even if they were both against a 5000, wouldn't have a material impact on his ranking. So the fact that he's allowed to sit there and just straight lie like that is incredible. What a horrible human being.

[@BeansWebster-xz7ve]

He said he cheated a number of times at 16 for rating, and one single game at 12 for a tournament. It could be a lie but that is always what he has said since this started

[@VACatholic]

@@BeansWebster-xz7ve So then he lied here when he said he cheated once at 12, and once at 16. Interesting.

[@theotherguy4478]

​​@@BeansWebster-xz7veHans said he only cheated twice. He did it once at 12 and once at 16. He admitted to this in this very interview. He is lying. He cheated a lot more than twice. Because he is lying so much, I have no reason to believe him when he said he had never cheated in otb games. In fact, he believe it more than before that he did cheat on otb games.

[@EnigmaChess]

Once at 16 refers to a time he cheated once, as in you cheat in a tournament, you cheated once

[@visibletoallusersonyoutube5928]

Ik this is old news but still. The semantics are still worth noting. At 16 he could have had a session with multiple games played where he cheated. It's perfectly OK to call that cheating "once". Otherwise you might as well call each individually assisted move cheating. Which of course it is. But when he says he "cheated once to improve his rating" NOBODY thinks he ment one single move. So NOBODY should think he means one single game. And that doesn't mean he's lying. It's OK to say once for a series of linked events in a window of time. Yall just want to hate on him. Which is fine but at least be logical. If I said "i once worked at McDonald's" yall wouldn't seriously believe I went in for one single bit of "work" I could have: A. Flipped a patty B. Worked till lunch C. Worked a day D. Worked a week E. Worked a month And I can refer to every one of those as working at McDonald's "once" You'd have to get him to agree to discuss his cheating in a more quantifiable way to even entertain the ideas of him lying. For example you'd need him to agree that "cheating" in chess is any one game that contains an instance of outside assistance or any unfair gain unbeknownst to the opponent. If one single unfair game is = one act of cheating How many times has he cheated. How many unfair games were played unbeknownst to his opposition. Until that gets answered anyone that thinks they caught him lying is simply over confident in their OPINION. For the record I don't like Hans. The whole thing was definitely fishy. But I'll never pretend like I know if he cheated vs magnus. People that think they know are the ones who aren't smart enough to be trusted anyways.

[@andrebenoit404]

Hans handled that pretty well honestly

[@orchoose]

Calling his lawyer a friend. 🤣🤣 He thinks hes Johnny Depp.

[@connectingthedots100]

Your honor, I don't know why you focus on these two burglaries, when my client visited shops hundreds of times just buying things. Ridiculous argument from the lawyer there.

[@noxeman2010]

He just lost to a 2400 elo IM that Hikaru coches from time to time if I'm not mistaken. It's hard to believe he beat the world champion and ended his 53 games undefeated streak without cheating.

[@Biskawow]

Magnus played really bad in that game

[@nhatthehuman6691]

Magnus probably underestimated him, the same thing happened to me when I beat a kid 6 times in a row and then got completedly obliterated.

[@Biskawow]

@@nhatthehuman6691 unless he used some voodoo telepathy to make him play like dogshit, I dont see how you can say Hans cheated. I love watching Magnus play, and same goes for most of these super GMs, but their ego is SO INFLATED its unbelievable, gets so cringe when they slip up. I mean, srsly, you are a living chess god and you act like a 5 year old because you lost a match you half assed thinking its gonna be easy. But this goes for Kasparov, Hikaru, Kramnik. Not every time, but sometime when they lose they act like babies.

[@nhatthehuman6691]

@@Biskawow yeah true but calm down bro

[@seelmodge7881]

To be honest, that could be the best game of his life and it can go downhill from there.

[@richardv.582]

Going on the Piers Morgan show, who's job it is to shred guests was absolute professional suicide. It was like leading a lamb to slaughter. I'm sure in retrospect, had Hans given it alittle more thought he never would have gone on that show. .. a hard lesson to learn to be sure.

[@niklaswetz1300]

I dont think he did it for his cheating Reputation but More for fame

[@profanemagic5671]

@@niklaswetz1300100% . I mean, the first thing he did was try to promote his scolarship, lmao. He really thought he was going to get something positive out of this.

[@yaboied4586]

4:35 “You know your curiosity is a bit concerning you know maybe you’re personally interested” ok I mean you gotta give it to Hans that’s a pretty sharp response hahaha

[@profanemagic5671]

Sharp for a 6 year-old, lmao. All he said was basically "no, you!"

[@hugegamer8004]

Only very barely. It takes just half of a common wit to reallise the best thing he can do in the situation is turn the audience focus to Piers. Besides as your other replier said, it's basically a less simplified version of ''no, you''.

[@ILoveLuhaidan]

Not sharp at all

[@J12s-g9d]

What was that lawyer thinking letting Hans talk like that? 😂

[@gavenlarson7471]

When Hans brought up the fact that Magnus has lost to other players similar to Hans' rating, does it ever occur to him why he hasn't accused players like Pragg of cheating and only Hans?

[@templarroystonofvasey]

Han's comments after the match maybe? Do you really expect drama queens to be logical and reasonable at all times? Magnus is human too.

[@jamesmoniz5263]

Magnus only accused Hans isn’t evidence of any kind. I don’t like Hans, but it’s a fair point to say that other players at Hans’ skill level often can beat Magus as well. Magnus’ allegations aren’t a substitute for evidence. I don’t like Hans, but I hate how people think just cause someone is bad or did something bad in the passed, they don’t need to have proof to backup claims

[@JackHarb89]

@@jamesmoniz5263 Would you marry a women/man who killed their partner at 18 and another one at 20 to get their wealth? I think you wouldn't because the chance of him/her killing you is high, simply because that person did is multiple times before. Fair, it's a harsh analogy, but put yourself into any respected person. Evidence or not, we know by fact he cheated multiple times. He admitted. He even cheated in money tournaments. Where do we want to believe a notorious liar and cheater to draw the line? Magnus embraces the young players like Pragg, Alireza and others, because he indeed wants a challenge. He is not interested in beating the same people all over again and hopes to find a true challenger. To think that the challenger would be a cheater, you definitely have doubts about his integrity. Hans earned his reputation not by Magnus, but by his own actions. He has a known reputation of cheating, admitting to it. If you build up a reputation of lying and cheating, EVERYTHING you do, will be questioned. EVERYTHING. That's why you should be honest and integrity should matter to you. All your achievements if truthfully earned or illegal by cheating, are meaningless, because they will always fall into suspicion. Always. Actions have consequences. Period.

[@anniellusion]

@@jamesmoniz5263 That's not at all what he said.... Op meant hans just proved that magnus didn't accuse him because he was beaten by a low rating. He accused him because it was hans. Magnus has been beaten by same ratings and didn't accuse them of anything. Op didn't say it was evidence, just pointed out the fact that Magnus has lost to lower ranks before, but hans is the only person he has called a cheater. And is a past proven one (not at 12 like he claims).

[@Say0cean]

cheated on some ''meaningless'' games... That's just disrespectful to the people he beat when he cheated. Yeah right, those games are so meaningless that he cheated to get a W. Doesn't that sound quite the opposite actually? Those games meant so much for him that he risked his entire career just to win some ''meaningless'' games LMAO

[@arletottens6349]

and supposedly, he only cheated the one time. Why did he stop?

[@TheLfamily24]

Hans: Online chess games do not matter Hikaru: And I took that personally

[@xadrezbrasil]

Maybe the lawyer (supposed friend) arranged the fun party with the Piers to promote himself and give Piers media attention. What a friend!

[@jmachakaire]

GM… your game is amazing and recently started following your career… much love and definitely one of the funniest I’ve seen! Kudos!

[@finleyrosebud5791]

Watch the lawyer's face 0:51 ... That little side glance loool.

[@timothymiller806]

Admits to cheating once when he was 16 and then says “THESE were random and meaningless gameS”

[@SuperMrPoly]

Surprised not many people caught this.

[@ReimuHakurei-itch.io-]

Definition of "Meaningless games" : Games that I Didn't understand or didn't hold any value to me as a learning material.

[@TheLyingLeft]

Hans efforts to clean his image backfired big time here. Him playing the victim card to gain sympathy, trying to deflect, trying to distract with his "poor me, I was only a kid" and not discuss the details about his cheating when Piers asked was very telling. Also, I wonder if Hans didn't like being asked about the details of his cheating because it might reveal the times he cheated and didn't get caught.

[@wallysullivan9315]

I dont doubt that he unironically hired his friend as a lawyer, only that level of idiocy could explain letting him do this interview and COMING WITH HIM

[@kingkillah101]

Hans IS NOT the father!

[@EnigmaChess]

Piers was being crazy aggressive with asking the details of how it happened

[@Tonythomas19]

He's just using it to get his name out there so he can stream and get followers. It's working

[@chrisnorris7527]

2:38 "these things... uhh..." definitely was going to say "speak for themselves" and he managed to stop himself lmao

[@dsbmgrey9504]

There were beads of sweat pouring down Hans' face during this interview.

[@Liberty_Freedom_Brotherhood]

lol, “beads” 😂

[@effectosis742]

The chess world can't ban this guy... he is so entertaining !

[@rasmus5341]

Insane. Absolute insanity. I bet my life on that the cheating is weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeell above "2 times"

[@StartingChess]

I'm glad Hikaru calls BS on the "meaningless games" thing. There are no meaningless chess games

[@ThoughfulLines]

25:25 where is Magnus bullying Prag and the rest?!! 😂😂 Magnus legit left a tournament and accused Hans for cheating with no evidence whatsoever. Also, throughout the video Hikaru just keeps on getting on Hans and his lawyer's words neglecting to speak of how Piers asked a bunch of questionable questions. Where is the unbiased take on that! Man i had respect for GMHikaru but after this, just clearly shows he picked sides and that's lame. (FYI - with his large following he is clearly also influencing others negatively towards Hans and his "case". That's definitely not right neither just.

[@rexbusterplayz]

absolutely

[@Fox_Mccloud11]

funniest thing I've seen in months. The lawyer's face was hilarious.

[@davidjoseph54]

Looked like he was desperately trying to hold in a laugh😂😂😂

[@davidjoseph54]

And he did laugh 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@mrsilly6155]

"I cheated to get my rating up but the games are meaningless" 🤔

[@Frag2xx5]

he means that at a certain point, elo does not matter at all for earning money or entrances to tournuments

[@tatbaz1]

He means hes a compulsive liar

[@atomicpiano]

The way Pierce pronounces Hans' name is hilarious 😂

[@edmorrison5645]

Hans? Piers pronounces is close to the original German pronunciation of its origin. It's Americans who don't pronounce the short "a" vowel sound. The way most Americans pronounce Anna or Mario sounds hilarious to the rest of the world.

[@profanemagic5671]

German person here: No, it's not. It's actually closer to the actual pronounciation than what americans call him.

[@majornewb]

I watched the entire interview, Piers kept trolling Hans with funny ridiculous questions lol

[@slm0nw174]

the way he asked them in a dead serious manner makes me think hes not trolling which makes it even funnier lol

[@-_Nuke_-]

10:28 He didn't say online games are meaningless - he said "THESE" online games are meaningless - meaning the ones that have no price tag.

[@zainquadri1206]

A 17 year old OLD man claims that he cheated when he was a 16 year old CHILD and it was an innocent mistake... Why can't people just believe him....? Why won't people give 'beads' a break...?

[@tomho1942]

The lawyer blinks very fast when it is his turn to speak = he's lying

[@kalidasankh6250]

I love how his lawyer kept a straight face.

[@roywall8169]

I admitted being a cheater, how dare you think that I am a cheater! 😂

[@dosebuss]

Its pretty obvious why hans did that interview. Promote himself and "prove" his innocence to a lot of people. Also clearly the giving away 10k thing is an attempt at getting good will

[@OshineTheOranguTANK]

1:53 I dont think i laughed out loud at something in quite a long time. Piers just bending over that biscuit and laying it hot and fresh right there on hans. Hans look at 1:57 could not have been any funnier either. The mix of the weird out of place lawyer, hans absolute disdain for what he is hearing, and hikaru belly laughing made my day.

[@ac4694]

He wasn't just a lawyer, he was there because they're the best friends

[@OshineTheOranguTANK]

@@ac4694 after all he has known him for while

[@beerkegaard]

​@@ac4694 lovers

[@joelpenley9791]

I laughed so much when Eric reviewed this yesterday. I knew Hikaru would be reacting. Long live the beads!!

[@ZiggyAndTheSpiderFromMars]

Beads are back and with a vengeance.

[@connectingthedots100]

Eric was slightly more restrained thought.

[@williambuckley4901]

Eric is more restrained and balanced because he doesn't have the same biases and stake in the events that Hikaru does. Don't forget that hikaru was involved in the suit initially.

[@connectingthedots100]

@@williambuckley4901 Ah no I'm fairly new to it. Thanks for explaining!

[@ZiggyAndTheSpiderFromMars]

@@williambuckley4901 This didn't call for "restraint." If anything, Hans should be openly mocked. Hikaru didn't really go there, perhaps for fear of another SLAPP lawsuit funded by Hans wealthy parents. Oh, is that what you mean by saying Hikaru was "involved in the suit" before Hans lawyer dropped it?

[@Pclub4ever]

Piers got into Hans' lawyer's skin lmao Piers really is a master at that

[@userjk7]

Piers defrags both Hans and his lawyer without even trying 😂💀

[@jeroenneve5807]

Hans doesn't speak for himself - his lawyer does.

[@SeaGlassSets]

I don’t get why you would do an interview like this with your lawyer..or at all

[@SideQuest3]

For financial gain, you get paid to go onto his show

[@SeaGlassSets]

@@SideQuest3 Hope he got paid a fair bit then lol

[@SideQuest3]

@SeaGlassSets Yes he would have been paid very well. More than he would make in a year playing chess