HANS'S CRAZY INTERVIEW - HIKARU REACTS

[@biffboffo]

Danya handled this like a real journalist. He is the GOAT commentator.

[@V1sper99]

Danya is a gift to chess

[@gausscohen4552]

I think Danya did a great job keeping his cool and keeping the ball rolling but I disagree he handled this like a journalist. Hans lied and contradicted himself several times with no pushback. I don't think it was a coincidence he went on this tirade when being interviewed by one of the nicest guys in chess. He knew Danya would be too kind to cut him off.

[@jjhmr]

He did at least miss to press him on the extent of his past online cheating to gain rating. I would like someone to ask him if it is over 50 games as Danny Rensch claims.

[@Ulxaaf]

Dana is just so gentle. Omg I love him.

[@Noah-go8xc]

@@gausscohen4552at which point did he lie? A lot of his thoughts are based on his own experience. A witch hunt was started by a cry baby that happens to be the #1 player in the world. He has already been banned previously, served his time, and apologized for what he did. He’s a super GM. He cheated when he was a literal child. What is enough for your type? Also saying danya didn’t push back? He constantly asked incredibly controversial questions.

[@simiondan9446]

Come on. You were clearly suspicious of his analysis at St. Louis after his match with Alireza. You can't say you clearly stated you don't think he cheated. You were a very important factor for his current image. I'm not a fan of the guy, but please be consistent with your views just as much as you are with your stellar play, Hikaru

[@joaobarros6744]

Remember that in that time no one knew if he cheated or not. Magnus thought he did, he did cheat before, he failed in analysing a game saying random weird things to dodge the analysis. It was really suspicious, so yes, anyone would be. But after investigation things became more clear that he probably didn't cheat. So it is normal to change your view. You forget the dynamics of time passing and new facts coming to light.

[@simiondan9446]

​@@joaobarros6744completely agree with you. However, you can see how he s not acknowledging the impact of the view that he had at the time

[@joaobarros6744]

@@simiondan9446 True, I also think he and all the others should stand by their opinions before. But people really struggle with this concept that views change over time as more evidence appears, and explaining complex concepts on the internet generally gets you nowhere. That's why I think the chess influencers choose to just say something like "ooo yeah idk, never said that" (and for legal reasons as well, as he sued them for accusing him of doing what he did before blabla)

[@djvg7607]

Brother, the situation changed over time. So yes his opinion changed. Being consistent in your opinions doesn’t necessarily mean you are intelligent.

[@djvg7607]

⁠@@joaobarros6744Hans cheated, people treated him badly. Now he’s changed but still a dick. This isn’t a complicated situation. And no, if your opinion changes I do not think you should stand behind your original belief.

[@dandymcgee]

Danya is the most stone-faced, objective interviewer of all time. Extremely professional and excellent job done. Much kudos.

[@MindfulSages]

He literally asked questions one would wish they had asked once they had the benefit of hindsight, but he did it on the spot. I have a new commentator goat. Who's also a beast on the board. Huge respect Danya!

[@karna6634]

he could make that his identity . the spicy boy who asked spicy questions straight down !

[@TimeNap]

He was holding back a smile at times but he was asking some wild questions. And Hans name dropped Anal Beads all on his own. This was a great interview because the train kept leaning further and further, but Danya managed to keep it on the tracks.... barely.

[@anilbista7445]

Yea danya is extremely professional unlike Nakamura. No doubt hikaru had problems with his seconds and been accused to abuse them

[@dontbescaredhomie3137]

@@dandymcgeeHe actually got quite annoyed when confronted with the banned opening affair.

[@MindfulSages]

Naroditsky literally asked questions one would wish they had asked once they had the benefit of hindsight, but he did it on the spot. I have a new commentator goat. Who's also a beast on the board. Huge respect Danya!

[@Sympanet]

@@MindfulSages how many times did you make this same comment

[@gragasapmidlane6761]

I love How Hikaru is troubled by Hans lack of taking responsibilities yet he himself doesnt take any responsibility in His doing in the whole thing Cough cough Sinquefield interviews Cough cough

[@pct4to]

two wrongs don’t make a right

[@babasahebghule3624]

​No it doesn't make it right it makes hikaru hypocritical ​@@pct4to

[@schrodingerskatze4308]

The thing is also that Hans does take responsibility. He said that he cheated online and that it was wrong and so he stopped cheating. If he stopped cheating and they let him play for a few more years without incident, it just seems a bit strange when they come back years later and bring that cheating up again. If it was so bad that he can't be trusted, why not ban him immediately? After 3+ years it just doesn't make sense to go after him anymore, so it's quite understandable that he's upset and really weird that Hikaru just doesn't understand this point that Hans makes.

[@ILoveAOC]

*@gragasapmidlane6761* I agree. Hans should take responsibility for his exceptionally bad post-match analysis.

[@thomasrad5202]

proctors are good because they protect the players from accusations. they are witness to what is happening and can vouch that everything was above board.

[@u.v.s.5583]

Only if the proctors are certified colonoscopists with equipment and rights and will to use it before, during and after every single game.

[@TheSatsuiNohadou]

I see what you did there.

[@dce64]

That works if there is a delay (I don't think if there was), and it can be known there isn't a small camera recording the board state and sending a signal to something in Hans' shoe or ear.

[@spnhm34]

They didn’t protect Hans from spouting a ton of nonsense after the game.

[@nerminpeskovic3439]

@@u.v.s.5583They don’t even need that. Easy way to tell if someone is cheating is to play chess in multiple formats. If Hans can beat Magnus consistently in each format, then we can believe him. I doubt someone could cheat in bullet chess, there’s no time for all those vibrations to occur 💀.

[@halalos]

37:41 i think the thing you fail to realize is that he is saying that he got banned after the Magnus game for no reason, just based on preconceptions, thats what hurts him not the bans he received when he was younger, and you saying that it’s justified because he did cheat when he was young is the exact reason he is angry, because he served his time and never cheated again and yet people still cant move on. it’s like saying you were speeding on the highway a month ago and you get a new ticket for it when you got pulled over while not even speeding

[@patrickpascal1225]

But he didn’t serve his time? Most people are permanently banned after cheating😅

[@adelemiller671]

@@patrickpascal1225 not true

[@mrmiller74]

Exactly that. He was banned for nothing. He had served banned for his historical misdemeanors. The ban which was applied the day after beating Magnus was based upon no further online chess violations and was purely to attempt to give credence to Magnus' baseless insinuations in order to protect their business partner.

[@gabolujan]

Why should anyone believe him when he says he never cheated again? He himself said he has cheated multiple times.

[@patrickpascal1225]

@@adelemiller671 is there any other top OTB player that’s been proven to have cheated online?

[@siddharthsingh5524]

Dude you were like the second person after Magnus who clearly believed in the match against Magnus Hans did cheat and now ur just like 180 degree in opposite directions i love how the table turns i clearly remember ur sarcastic remarks and ur expressions during that saga

[@happy_6]

absolutely agree with you. I remember hikaru reacting to his interviews and all😂.Bro turned so quickly

[@judeenjackson920]

OMG A person changed their opinion such a shocker

[@dillonferreira3529]

@@judeenjackson920 They are surprised by this action because they will never change their mind and admit that Hans is just kinda a piece of shit thats why he doesn't get invited😂😂

[@keithtorrence2487]

I agree too, Hans was extremely suspicious in his interview after the match. I don’t see where Hikaru is changing his position.

[@gaburincho]

He was embarrassing himself

[@ScareTheater]

Ten years ago my brother stole five bucks from me. Now, today, everytime I am missing money I automatically call him up and accuse him of stealing it. My actions are totally reasonable, right? I mean, he did it a long time ago; therefore, I don't need any evidence to accuse him of it again.

[@michaelh13]

If your partner cheated on you, would you go back to them, or would that trust be irreconcilably destroyed?

[@ScareTheater]

​@michaelh13 I think relationship cheating is much worse than cheating in a competitive game (but they are both very bad). Your analogy still doesn't fit, though. If my partner cheated on me, then yeah I'd never trust them again. However, if I am dating someone and they told me that 10 years ago they cheated on someone and they feel really bad at about it, then I'd have to assess the situation more holistically. Life isn't black and white.

[@dillonferreira3529]

If someone lived with you, stole money from you 10 years ago, but you caught them on camera 3 years ago doing over 100 times, but they ONLY admit to the 1 time they did it 10 years ago, you wouldn't suspect them of stealing money?

[@anywhywho]

​@@michaelh13 he was 12 years old, this isn't an equivalent to a cheating partner. Unless your partner is 12 years old.

[@Nagatomo158]

​@@anywhywho both the chesscom report and FIDE reports say that he has cheated in online prized money events with FIDE's number being 55 and chesscom's number being 100 and above. Both of them accept that he had cheated in a period of years between when he was 12 to 16. No matter how Hans tries to paint it over how he didn't know better, he claimed something else in court

[@DonaldCoC]

Lmao Hikaru saying that so many top players are talking behind everyone's back literally supports Hans's theory of them colluding. Also I think Hikaru is projecting when he says that hans isnt liked by anyone...

[@disinformationworld9378]

People having suspicions has absolutely zero correlation to collusion. The lack of critical thinking these days is honestly getting scary. Imagine trying to use that claim in a court of law?? Are you serious? It proves nothing.

[@havanaradio]

At this point I'm cheering for the kid even though he is objectively an obnoxious and awful person

[@jay31415]

​@@havanaradioHe doesn't seem like an awful person. But he definitely is immature, as many kids are.

[@Math.Bandit]

@@jay31415 He's an admitted awful person. His own version of actions is one that I would never even dream of considering for any event if I were running chess tournaments. I don't need violent maniacs who are a danger to other people and completely unable to control their anger.

[@justinrussell7859]

Completely agree. Basically, if enough "top players" say any player is cheating with no proof, then that player's career is done.

[@apollog7764]

Hikaru’s funny faces aren’t really enough to dissuade me from seeing how little of a defence he had here

[@SavantGardeEX]

Yeah he'd just got nothing to say 😂

[@Blinkers2007GameDev]

@@SavantGardeEX Hikaru or Hans?

[@Goatz99]

Hikaru always does that. Watch him on stream when he reacts to stuff or talks to other streamers like levy, he’ll just start pulling random funny faces for no reason lmao.

[@csquared4538]

Defense for what? For discussing Hans cheating? I don't even understand how that could require a defense.

[@chsims12]

He's milking it for content like Hans said these people are sick

[@rickdonnelly3937]

Hikaru never fails to throw his peers under a bus.

[@u.v.s.5583]

To be honest, Hans is that long haired kid who skateboards in front of every single bus

[@moremerome]

How u gonna disrespect Hans and Hikaru in the same statement

[@rawheadrex8487]

I dont know why anyone tells Hikaru anything in confidence, he always throws them under the bus.

[@ahmadfaraz2518]

@@rawheadrex8487 He didn't leak anything

[@TimeNap]

I know exactly one person that has played chess against Hans. He's an IM and played when Hans was like 14-15, and he had an interesting take on Hans. "He has no empathy. None at all." It's in line with Hikaru saying that players talk behind the scenes and don't like Hans.

[@aurum_4332]

This really comes across like Hikari simply doesn't like Hans and is rationalizing things based on that.

[@oldmanscooter3813]

Yep. Hikaru is the definition of a petty mean girl. Hikaru can’t hold in his delight when he starts talking about the “chess mafia”

[@dillonferreira3529]

Lmao no shit, would you like someone who constantly bad mouths you, is disrespectful and files lawsuits against you?

[@LunaticSoldiers]

It isn't like Hans' behavior comes off any differently lol.

[@Zero-ef4sc]

​@@LunaticSoldiersthe difference is, Hans' behavior does not affect Hikaru in any way. Hikaru's behavior results in Hans getting ostracized by the entire chess community, which has been happening for over a year. It is the difference between a rando telling people to kill Trump, and Trump telling his millions of minions to kill a rando.

[@Zero-ef4sc]

​@@dillonferreira3529all of those things are things Hikaru brought upon himself. If you didn't pay attention, Hikaru was the one who started making false claims about Hans, and Hans responded. That's literally all on Hikaru.

[@sparkster4000]

“Not to throw Danya under the bud but *throws Danya under the bus*”. Lost some respect for Hikaru there

[@mikkelhansen3714]

yeah not cool hikky

[@dqreps]

Yeah I thought that was pretty crazy. You can't tell these guys anything. They'll rat you out. Why would he even do that? Leave anyone else's name out of it where something was told to you in confidence. And this is how Hikaru and everyone else got into this position in the first place. Talk, talk, talk...

[@EJandEmmanGonzales]

It's called metacommentary

[@Mistral434]

@@dqreps To be fair the only top GM who seems to "talk talk talk talk talk" is Hikaru :D

[@ludomirsteinbruck9376]

Danya has my upper most respect. He has class and integrity, not something I can say about Hikaru

[@Dezu123]

Hikaru: "There is no conspiracy" Also Hikaru 5 minutes later: "Yeah, there is non formal conspiracy against Hans"

[@MonkeyAndChicken]

A roomful of top players all suspecting that you're cheating against them online when you're actually cheating against them online isn't a "conspiracy". It's called "the consequences of your own actions."

[@dillonferreira3529]

That's exactly how quotes work my dude

[@Dezu123]

@@dillonferreira3529 they kinda are my dude. Edit: actually you're right for the second one, my bad.

[@vedant4226]

@@MonkeyAndChicken You seem to be the only one to have some exclusive insight on Hans cheating against top players, why don't you go on and assist Magnus then?

[@god.of.stories]

​@@MonkeyAndChickenLol the fact a 1000 rated player is complaining about a super GM cheating in his childhood is insane😂😂

[@GM_Sanjit_Ramesh]

Lmao hans describes the chess mafia operation and then later hikaru describes the chess organizers like a mafia and how they can throw around their political power 😂

[@dontbescaredhomie3137]

Also when he talks about top players talking and Danya having his own suspicions and "baiting" Hans he knows very well that people have exerted their influence and that's why they did that report / investigation on him. I don't think it's fair at all that this report went public. Hikaru probably thinks Hans is right on many more things than he wants to admit. Baiting people into conspiracy rants is another way to frame and shame people.

[@LunaticSoldiers]

He was intentionally using the mafia as a metaphor because Hans was throwing the term out so frequently in the interview.

[@LunaticSoldiers]

@@dontbescaredhomie3137 Most people who are innocent can bring a lot more to the table than a tin foil hat. I think Hikaru's explanation in the video is very fair, specifically that Hans has a hard time getting invites because he lives in a country where he is not consistently in the top 5 rated players. Hans is currently 7th in the USCF ratings, 6th in USA in FIDE ratings (27th overall FIDE). If a closed tournament had 12 players (Keeping in mind most only have 8) then there are quite a bit of players above him on this list. Wrecking hotel rooms, bringing conspiracy theories alongside just bad manners (Looking at the Rapid Teams match against Nepo) are additional reasons to reconsider making an exception for him to have an invite. Hans is clearly talented at Chess, he simply needs to enter more Open tournaments and dial in his consistency so he doesn't have such bad rating fluctuations.

[@auroama]

@@LunaticSoldiers Besides, he is currently suspended from invitations from the Saint Lous chess club for one year, for the wrecking hotel room. And nobody remember or know this. Because Hans is constantly reclaiming, about something that he needs to wait. He wants to force an invitation. And if I were the club, after that year, I will still not invite him, because of his attitude of this year against the club on the tweets, players in general, and lack of remorse in his actions. Too much gaslighting in this interview.

[@shaun1090]

@@LunaticSoldiersThis seems to be completely lost to most people. Hikaru’s point is also this is the reality, it’s their club and money, you can’t change it. Move on, play the game. He is a brand and he needs to realise this, you gotta operate within the reality of the situation.

[@dominiks5068]

Making silly faces is not an argument, btw

[@dce64]

Maybe if Hans didn't like suing people for $100 million, we could figure out exactly what Magnus, Hikaru, and the other top level players really think. Unfortunately, we are in a position where only Hans and people who say nice things about Hans' OTB progress are allowed to speak freely.

[@patriot_1776]

It's worked for Jon Stewart for years.

[@moremerome]

The Argument is that Hans Never touched Top 10 + Not top 3-4 in the USA. Acting like he was getting invited before is lunacy

[@gasaidjohn3499]

​​@@dce64 lawsuit was dismissed, the $100 million price tag was an upper bound and never a serious threat, and nobody is censoring people who speak out against Hans. Wtf is this victim complex. Hans sued people for defamation and damaging his career and now somehow sharing his perspective makes Hikaru the victim

[@dce64]

​@@gasaidjohn3499 Lawsuit was dismissed against Danny for lack of jurisdiction. Hans could have refiled. Prior to the lawsuit, Hikaru was open about what he believed, and Magnus said that he cannot say more without explicit legal permission from Hans. Even if the 100 million was a joke, he could still have won a ton of money; you never know what juries will do. Furthermore, even winning a frivolous lawsuit can be extremely expensive. This is just a well-known flaw in the US legal system (other countries have loser pays rules). Have you heard Ian or Fabi recently say, for example, that Hans "preparing" the morning of a game against a line that Magnus has only played once in a decade is quite bizarre?

[@lilpoppa2k]

“I learned that from Hikaru, I’m a big fan of his streams”- 18y/o Hans… when I seen that video it made me sad

[@Marlow998]

whan he said this

[@blueocean702]

It reminded me of The Incredibles movie and Buddy looking up to Mr Incredible.

[@lilpoppa2k]

@@Marlow998 yeah in a game a couple years ago against Boston Mike

[@Marlow998]

@@lilpoppa2k do u have a link i would like to take a look

[@march8482]

​@@blueocean702 Hikaru and Magnus are 'super' GM's, which makes that even funnier. Now he only needs to hold a chess tournament on an island in the middle of nowhere where he tests out new cheating methods on Hikaru/Magnus.

[@ackee39]

hikaru is trying to downplay his role in it so hard but i dont think the viewers will ever forget

[@freebee8221]

Because most likely hans DID cheat. There were those games where he was playing WELL above his rating. And fact is that he has a history of cheating and thats the price you pay when you choose to cheat, you will always be suspected.

[@ackee39]

@@freebee8221 he didnt play well above his rating. magnus played an obscure dubious opening line, got into a worse endgame, and made several crucial blunders its so obvious that its all a smokescreen that hikaru is walking back his stance to complete neutrality, when he was going all in on hans way back when and seriously? cheating when youre still a kid is enough to have a chess monopoly and some of the biggest personalities ruin your chess career, your media appearance, your life in general? hans might be a douche but no 17 year old deserves to go through that because of dumb mistakes they made as a kid and a grandmaster throwing a hissy fit

[@ackee39]

@@freebee8221 judging from your earlier comments on this channel you seem pretty low rated, so i get that youre just taking hikarus word, but seriously, most grandmasters dont even think hans cheated

[@freebee8221]

@@ackee39 he absolutely DID play well above his rating on several games. Did you look at those videos where they analyzed his games? If he werent cheating,he would have to be the greatest chess player ever, and we know he is not. And yes, if you choose to cheat, then the price you pay is that you will always be suspected. And lets be honest, he has cheated way more than he admits.

[@ackee39]

@@freebee8221 by that logic anyone who beats magnus is playing well above their rating. i get that youre rated like 600 so you dont exactly know how this works but being the highest elo doesnt at all mean no one can beat you ever

[@aurum_4332]

Trying to ruin someone's career based on "rumors among top players" is a terrible look.

[@randomnobody8770]

They turned out to be accurate

[@dpend]

The rumors were true though, Hans was confirmed to have cheated multiple times, yet all the low IQ Hans sycophants insist he was treated cruelly and unfairly - not surprising, but I can't be blamed by expecting a bit more intelligence from the chess-following population, can I?

[@jonas8993]

it's not like they have many other levers it seems.

[@Lere]

It was just gossip and Hikaru is using that as a "thing we are all missing" here lol. Gossip? That's your defense?

[@rufussthubbins8891]

@@Lereit’s never ceases to amaze me how much the Hans fangirls just simply discount the opinions and consensus among professional players, as if they don’t have a much deeper deeper understanding of cheating in chess. Nope, they just all think they’re out to get this 1 single person, and that poor Hans is this innocent victim

[@blahblahmd7]

“He admitted to cheating but he never owns up to it” how is that even possible Hikaru?

[@wallyllaw]

He admitted to cheating as a little child, but not 16-17 years old or during a stream. Why haven't Hans fanboys seen how he got banned during a stream?

[@dillonferreira3529]

Maybe when you have your first relationship and you have to apologize for something you did, you'll realize that you cant do it the way Hans did😂😂

[@Cupinson-w1w]

@@wallyllawhe cheated at 17? is there evidence

[@EchoesPF878]

@@Cupinson-w1w thats the great thing about youtube comments, you can just say whatever you want without proof, and then when someone asks for proof, you just dont respond! One of the marvels of our time

[@Cupinson-w1w]

@@EchoesPF878 fr, first it was just at 12, then it was 12 and 15, then 12 and 16, then 13 and 17… the number seems to just keep increasing lmao

[@danarcher5972]

Haven't top chess players also accused Hikaru of cheating?

[@spiralni]

True

[@medhamishra6294]

but his otb performance AND his rating proves him to be innocent

[@user-xm3uo3gu8c]

​@@medhamishra6294what if he's cheating OTB too? his game standards fluctuate too wildly cementing suspicions

[@jondebeer6863]

​@user-xm3uo3gu8c Not really. His performance fluctuates between top 10 and top 20, which is normal for all the guys in that range.

[@anonymoususer7539]

@@medhamishra6294 And Han's doesn't? He's ranked in the top 25 in the world OTB and his performances back this up.

[@LostCauseAJ]

Just because they had suspicions don't mean he gets to be treated like that. If that happens to you, you won't like it.

[@Dablou]

true

[@thesubhumancomedy]

A former cheater should be treated like a cheater.

[@IrinaTrustsGod]

@@thesubhumancomedy He was a kid. Any law or court in the world considers this, but Chess people are more wise apparently. 🧐

[@sjotpit3521]

⁠@@thesubhumancomedyNo? People make mistakes, he was literally a kid, there are probably many professional chess players who have cheated when they were younger.

[@Chiungalla79]

​@@IrinaTrustsGodMany courts in the world would look at your legal records from your youth for an evaluation of your character and take this into account while judging you. So what are you talking about?

[@EldenLord555]

Hikaru pinned a comment with ZERO nuance 😂 wild. The comment starts with a logical fallacy: “12 Y/Os around the globe understand the ramifications / consequences of cheating”. Not only is this a wild generalization, but to imply that an undeveloped 12 Y/O brain fully grasps the consequences of nearly ANY action is irresponsible. He then follows that by saying “Hans has shown no remorse for his cheating”, which is blatantly false. Remember folks, Hans was the one who opened up about his cheating past. He also refers to it as the biggest mistake of his life..what else do you want? Very classy Hikaru. Glad you found the one half baked comment that supports your views.

[@dpend]

I don't know about you but I understood much younger than 12 that cheating, even in small ways, was wrong. If you hope to excuse your own lack of morality by commiserating with someone who has none, it says more about you than the viewpoint you are condemning.

[@EldenLord555]

@@dpend I appreciate your anecdote. To clarify, I wasn’t arguing that a child cannot distinguish, even in a small way, the concept between right & wrong. As children we know lying is wrong, but we still do it. Because (spoiler alert) we are children. My point is that SCIENCE has long understood that a developing brain may not take into account the more subtle aspects of wrongdoing, such as long term ramifications or the weight of a given consequence. He made a mistake as a kid, has owned up to it and now busts his butt to prove himself & rectify his mistakes. To continue holding his 12 year old decisions hostage says more about you than it does him at this point.

[@jay31415]

​@@dpend"I am very ethical"

[@MonkeyAndChicken]

Hans cheated many, many times AFTER he was 12 tho. And he tries to misdirect in his answer by qualifying about "prize money" and "streaming" instead of admitting it. He's a remorseless liar, who only cares about painting himself as a victim. For the record, that's what psychopaths do when cornered. At the end of the day, Hans is a mediocre GM who desperately needs this controversy to stay relevant. Chess would be better off without him and without the kinds of people his comportment appeals to.

[@Zero-ef4sc]

​@@MonkeyAndChickenhe was still pretty young when he cheated. He has admitted to cheating, there's nothing else he can do now. Even if he admits to cheating again, you'll just say "he clearly feels no remorse" or whatever BS you can to still call him a cheater. Saying a victim acting like a victim is indicative of being a psychopath proves you have no clue about psychology, just your feelings, which don't matter at all.

[@ElEcodelTren]

12:13 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOL what a coward! after pretty straight forward insinuation about "very sus" while watching Hans Niemann st Louis interview clearly doubting about him.... really Hikaru? have at least some balls to stand for what you "said"... and now that i think, you never had the balls to said it clear... just like that ... coward insinuations that allowed you to after say "i never said anything" lol...

[@coolcrazydude007]

Just to be clear you guys, I do not think Hans cheated in that game. Magnus played poorly and that's all it was. I've even said that in the documentary.

[@ludomirsteinbruck9376]

​@coolcrazydude007 why is He so concerned about this documentary? What documentary 😅?

[@Ishbikes]

@@ludomirsteinbruck9376the documentary man!!

[@ILoveAOC]

*@ElEcodelTren* I agree. Hans should apologize and you should learn better punctuation.

[@ElEcodelTren]

@@Ishbikes what documentary???????

[@EldenLord555]

Hikaru added a lot of fuel to the rumors that eventually destroyed Han’s reputation..to see Hikaru giggling throughout this stream is pretty upsetting. Han’s admitted to cheating as a child and considers it the biggest mistake of his life. It’s time to move on. Happy to see Hans hard work pay off and eager to see more games from him.

[@mutdd3954]

exactly. all these internet nerds hating on hans is so funny to see. he made a big mistake. it is what it is. now he's playing on a very high level. i wish him nothing but the best

[@rohan1864]

but kinda weird that he never actually apologized to anyone for his cheating, isn't it? and a 16 year old is not exactly called a child.

[@dillonferreira3529]

Bro can someone please explain why yall are some dumb mfers, Hans is an asshole, can he just stop being a dickhead then he'll get invited? Its really not that complicated

[@mutdd3954]

@@rohan1864 he has apologized for his cheating. he took responsibility. He apologized again in this interview stating it was the biggest. mistake of his life

[@rohan1864]

@@mutdd3954 that is not equivalent to an apology. he never expressed he was sorry towards other players he cheated against, never really mentioned them. never even really called his past actions "bad". only a "mistake". well, even if he didn't feel any remorse he would likely consider it a mistake, because it obviously backfired on him. so it's a bit of a lacking way to put it if it's supposed to show remorse. oh but he did mention that the games were "meaningless" plenty times, which is weird, considering they were meaningful enough for him to cheat in, and for the very same reasons were most likely meaningful for the players he cheated against. but he never directly referred to them, only spoke in their name that the games didn't have any value :) I guess it's for him to determine that. yeah, very apologetic person.

[@dazzleldn970]

hikaru being disingenuous here 8:54 yes Hans has admitted to and apologised for it, do you want him to apologise and take responsibility in every interview? ‘Oh I just beat a top 10 gm fair and square but I cheated when I was 14 so sorry about that’ The fact that Hans just beat mvl and wesley shows he is one of the best in the world and he doesn’t deserve the hate

[@BogusLion]

it was when he was 12/13, not 14.

[@Hun-Hunahpu]

And he regrets what he did because all of the trouble that has come with it, but I haven't been able to find a real apology from him

[@angelbedolla347]

@@Hun-Hunahpulmfao so once you find an apology you like then it’s ok to stop bringing it up? What about the guy next to you and so on. They all will demand an “apology” but in really not even that will satisfy them.

[@Hun-Hunahpu]

@@angelbedolla347 so, you haven't seen an apology either, got it

[@Hun-Hunahpu]

@@BogusLion he admitted to cheating when he was 12 and 16, and it was found that he cheated many times more online

[@annika803]

So if you top players had suspicions about him which is what influenced your behaviour before even knowing about his online cheating, you did have a vendetta against him and Magnus blew this way out of proportion based on no concrete evidence. I was neutral about this but there is no way you can’t see how you’ve screwed this up. He would have not been this popular without this debacle sure…. But it would have also spared the kid the scrutiny for what so many titled players have done themselves…

[@Mistral434]

There's clearly a lot still unsaid. If Magnus dropped out of that tournament based on suspicions of cheating, then clearly they had OTB suspicions. But since the lawsuit every one of them has been careful to say "we have no suspicions of OTB cheating, to be clear" - but that can't be true. If Magnus dropped out, based on these brewing suspicions, and these suspicions were based on OTB play - not online - then there's something pretty big missing here. Do they still have suspicions, I wonder? I'm personally never going to stop being suspicious of Hans, based on his constantly shady attitude, complete lack of remorse for prior cheating, and constant lying/downplaying the extent of his cheating and why he was banned. But I will be the first to admit - if there IS suspicion of him cheating OTB, then the onus is on the accuser to find out how exactly.

[@dillonferreira3529]

"I was neutral about this" Hans fanboy from the start XD

[@annika803]

@@dillonferreira3529 I’m a girl from India I don’t care for Hans, im telling you what it looks like to someone who wasn’t active online while this drama was at its peak(i.e right after the game) and is checking back in

[@annika803]

@@Mistral434 Right!

[@duartevader2709]

Gotta love that Hikaru barely properly adresses the claims and just makes weird faces ehike laughing You got an issue with the dude, say it, dont be a fricking coward How can someone so good at chess be so stupid and immature

[@bdubs3695]

Well chess is just a game. Hikaru is a pro gamer and streamer. Is it that surprising? I don't think he's stupid or immature , but if he was it wouldn't be surprising.

[@Owlr4ider]

It's not about being a coward, it's about being limited in what he can and can't say publicly due to the settlement of Hans' lawsuit against him... Why is it so hard for all you Hans fanboys to understand that Hans isn't god almighty now that everyone is behaving so defensively towards him and that this stance is by no means a retroactive admission of being wrong or anything like that. All it is is being defensive for the sake of not being on the receiving end of another Hans Niemann lawsuit.

[@mrcrunch8000]

What a drama queen. Lets ignore the fact that if you actually listened you would have heard him say "NOBODY LIKES HIM" and pretend you go around telling everyone you don't like that you can't stand them just like you expect others to do. I'm sure people love you. lol

[@duartevader2709]

@@mrcrunch8000 yes people love me, no im not a drama queen.

[@palynka9333]

Hikaru desperately trying to make Hans to look badly and failing, is the best evidence that Hans is probably right.

[@benryck]

Fr

[@dillonferreira3529]

Looks pretty bad ngl

[@hamias]

Been subscribed to his channel for over 3years now, this the lowest I've seen him become. I unsubscribed today after seeing this video.

[@Frets49]

@@hamiaswhy? i dont like hikaru at all but why was this the point , this is one place where he opinion is to be heard

[@skylarlinden945]

"people saying things" "top players saying things" none of that means shit. I agree with Hans when he says their heads are up their asses.

[@dillonferreira3529]

Once you become cool enough to have friends, you'll realize that once you bad mouth them, they don't want to play with you, or is that just the friend-mafia?

[@QK5364]

but Hans wants to play

[@storyahee]

@@QK5364 but others won't 🤣🤣🤣

[@dillonferreira3529]

@@QK5364 That's where it is important to take a step back and think how you can improve as a person to make other people WANT to play with you

[@QK5364]

@@dillonferreira3529 i think he is yapping too much about it being a big conspiracy to bring him down but other than that he did one other thing that he sort of but not really admits to, which is his flaw right now. I don't really like the guy but Hikaru even said that everyone talks behind everybody elses back which is not grounds for a ban. I understand where he is coming from and all Hikaru said was to the effect of' nobody likes the guy and we are all sus'

[@SweetJennyFan]

Admitting it is taking responsibility. Hello ! Is there anybody home ? 😂

[@toziassmitt]

No, it is not. “I cheated, but why was I banned?! It is unfair, it is evil” is not taking responsibility. Saying “I cheated when I was 16, and so I can understand the suspicion and the banning, but ultimately I believe on balance it was the wrong outcome” is taking responsibility

[@dillonferreira3529]

@@toziassmitt Don't forget not badmouthing event organizers and trashing hotels. Seems pretty responsible not to do those things

[@---Vector]

The only thing Hans regrets is that he was caught cheating, not that he cheated.

[@arturorimbaldo]

@@toziassmitt what's unfair is to be banned for something you were already banned (and then unbanned) for in the past; when he was banned again in 2022 he didn't cheat (or at least there is 0 evidence he did)

[@toziassmitt]

@@arturorimbaldo maybe it was unfair, maybe it wasn’t. That isn’t what I was commenting on. I was commenting on the idea of Hans owning up and taking responsibility. Something can be unfair and you can still take accountability to reach the situation that got you there

[@kalashnicarolina220]

I've seen him admit to cheating. Why does cheating at an adolescent age ban you from competing as an adult? I suppose it could but the point is that if he isn't cheating now and you can't prove that he is cheating then you must shut the mouth and possibly apologize or play him OTB.

[@BeatsByZetan]

Did he apologize to Alireza and his family for calling them names and throwing a tantrum as he lost against him? Don't hold your breath mate

[@kalashnicarolina220]

@@BeatsByZetan what does that have to do with cheating?

[@romardoph]

​@kalashnicarolina220 Beats seems confused. Youre talking about Hans. Beats is talking about something Hikaru did to Alireza after losing to him

[@BeatsByZetan]

@@romardoph no confusion here, commenter suggested Hikaru should apologize if he can't prove Hans is cheating and my reply was that Hikaru couldn't even apologize to Alireza after he was caught using inappropriate language towards him so he's def not going to apologize to Hans

[@auroama]

@@BeatsByZetan he did apologize, and he said that many times. Stop repeating trolling stuff.

[@dddboom]

H throwing Danya under the bus is wild

[@sevanuncu199]

It was painful to watch Hikaru in this one…

[@isaacperetz5984]

He’s the personification of bias in here

[@steelsteez6118]

It always is...

[@BT-su1yf]

Hikaru is in the right. Hans is a cheater.

[@code.r]

Hikaru pinning the comment which favours his delusional thoughts is funny lol. Imagine being this old, being in top players and having a grudge on a younger player who really proved that he is not a cheater. Maybe he cheated when he was 12 but man he improved himself since then, look at the results now, beating MVL, So, Anish. Hikaru just can't accept the fact that he was delusional the whole time 😂😂😂

[@blackdeath1970]

He admitted to have cheated, by definition all his life he will be a cheater. It's like a criminal record, you will always be a criminal even after going to jail. As easy as that.

[@code.r]

@@blackdeath1970 what criminal charges you give to a minor? 😏 Another delusional Hikaru fan I see here. When you serve your jail time, once you come back you are no longer a criminal, because if you are a criminal you will be in jail.

[@panaleksander13]

@@blackdeath1970 wow thats such an American think to say, makes me happy I dont live in this hell and actually know a defition of rehabilitation

[@TomWonderful]

@@panaleksander13 It's people like BlackDeath that perpetuate our 82% recidivism rate.

[@dillonferreira3529]

@@code.r Yes but believing in "chess mafia" is totally not a delusion 😂😂 Also he cheated wayyyyy more after 12

[@cinemadrunk13]

Anyone else saw that pinned comment that has 2 likes? The fact that the channel had to pin that shows how alone he really is. The issue is not whether Hikaru was right or wrong. At that time, many people thought it was cheating. But now that we know everything, its fair to come out and say that Hans did not deserve all that, and the fact that Hikaru is so blindsided by his hatred for Hans, shows that he has a big ego, and is not capable of apologizing whatsoever

[@rohan1864]

yeah but hans never apologized for his cheating to anone he cheated against. you can feel empathy for him, he probably suffered more than deserved but I honestly don't think he should get apologies from anyone either, he has never apologized. and as someone else said elsewhere, a million dollar lawsuit might make a person go sour on you. so a bit weird to expect hikaru to be empathetic.

[@ahmadfaraz2518]

Hikaru is not blindsided by his hatred or ego. Infact Hikaru is saying that he doesn't think Hans cheated against Magnus OTB.He is accepting some statements of Hans but not all

[@JannisNetwork]

Now we know everything? Really? All we know is Hans cheated a number of times online and only proof we have is when he admitted it and the report which says it was "likely more than 100 times". We also know there is no proof for otb cheating according to same report. We hardly know anything still.

[@rojareyhani9436]

Who said we know anything? Are youvdelulu like hans? Based on what you say he didnt cheat?

[@IWillMakeUMyBitch]

what was the pinned comment?

[@doubtingflock1073]

Who cares about what "top players" gossip about? Kramnic is a top player and his gossip seems to mean nothing. Same with Nepo and Fabi.

[@Ricky-fi1dq]

It's just painting a clearer picture of what happened and why. It's not like Magnus does this every time he gets beat by a lower rated opponent.

[@danarcher5972]

@@Ricky-fi1dq magnus is always filled with excuses when he losses or plays bad. Not just with Hans. He blamed his bad play in one game on his opponent wearing a watch and people walking around. Then the other day he blames his poor play on lack of sleep. Mr. excuses.

[@panaleksander13]

@@doubtingflock1073 its funny cuz Hikaru tried to make Hans look bad there and what he ended up doing is portraying top chess players as fucking gossip girls and crybabies :D

[@Ricky-fi1dq]

@@danarcher5972 bit different tho isnt it? If Hans admitted that it was reasonable for Danya to be suspicious of his mate beating him in a weird line then I dont get why it wasnt reasonable for Magnus to be suspicious of Hans given all the talk about him and his post game interview.

[@ludomirsteinbruck9376]

​​@@panaleksander13Hikaru is obnoxious to me, I am just interested what he has to say about the interview. At 44:00 you can hear him sum up his behaviour by the reason that other players talked or gossiped..on what earth is this a ground to act upon?

[@artichoke60045]

Listened for like 2 minutes. It's much more pleasant just to go to the interview itself, than having Hikaru shouting random stuff over it.

[@franciscomaldonado9077]

Bro, the things I did at 12 would probably land me in jail now. Come on. We all did stupid things when we were kids. This is ridiculous

[@andrewbloom7694]

Yeah thats a you thing. I cant recall doing anything that would get me arrested as a kid lol

[@minyu0001]

Hikaru is a freak lmao

[@emresar983]

truest comment

[@AnonymousQwerty]

Lmfao facts

[@ILoveAOC]

*@minyu0001* I agree. He destroyed Hans's youngster cope.

[@ILoveAOC]

@@emresar983I agree. I am right.

[@ILoveAOC]

@@AnonymousQwerty thank you. I knew I was right.

[@cz19856]

Are we still justifying Magnus' disgusting behavior after losing to Hans? Using his power to basically do a witch hunt against him with no more evidence than just a gut feeling? And also how Hikaru took advantage of all this just riding along the accusations?

[@dillonferreira3529]

"using his power to witch hunt" meanwhile magnus: Hey guys I don't really want to play him

[@EnriqueNuesch]

@@dillonferreira3529 hmmm yea, there never was a tweet immediately after the OTB defeat, right?

[@GudMarty]

@@dillonferreira3529it’s so funny reading delusional comments. Yes. He through a temper tantrum cause he lost for the first time in a few years (played at like 80% accuracy, a few legit blunders not just slight mistakes) tweeted some ominous meme acting like he had a ton of evidence but it never materialized. He lost.

[@dillonferreira3529]

@@GudMarty No not really, it just seems like Hans is more trouble than he's worth, he's like a McDonalds worker thinking he can throw money around to impress doctors, nobody wants to play him cuz he's a twat, simple as that

[@AkosHorvath-yr3hr]

I also lost all of my respect to Magnus. He is far the best chess player no doubt about that, but as a person just a cringe disgusting piece of garbage... Acting like that after a loss againts a kid, just no words for that.. Fukin shame.. I bet the next victim will be Pragg..

[@anoukadel6397]

One thing is clear to me: you should never accuse anyone of cheating without proof, because it does have a huge impact on that person. This applies to Kramnik for online cheating, but also to Magnus for OTB cheating. It doesn't matter if Hans cheated online or not, online and OTB are two different worlds, run by different organizations. There was never any proof that he cheated OTB and suggesting this as Magnus did was absolutely unacceptable and the entire chess community should have spoken out against it.

[@fractalinfect3454]

It also has a huge impact on the accusers as is evidenced here: both Danya and Hikaru look tense and uncomfortable. But why should they if they had been totally upright? It seems clear that they are not acknowledging their wrongs to Hans (but hold Hans to a higher standard.)

[@rohan1864]

is it also clear to you that you should never cheat, because it has an impact on others and it may also very well have a long lasting negative effect on yourself?

[@rohan1864]

@@fractalinfect3454 funny. when did hans apologize to any of the players he cheated against? or is he the only person exempted from having to apologize for their wrongdoings?

[@fractalinfect3454]

@@rohan1864 I don’t disagree with this at all. Hans is NOT taking responsibility because he is evasive about the cheating, refuses to understand its contribution to his dilemma, and refuses to make amends. But that doesn’t mean the people who talked about him behind his back will feel comfortable around him.

[@rohan1864]

@@chikaokoye8405 lol he himself in this video says "there were other instances", obviously plural. so you're spreading a lie, as incentivized by him.

[@Punisher730]

And I'm inscribing now to his channel... because if you look at hans talking you can genuinely see that he's on the true he talks normally

[@Punisher730]

And anyone who's honest within themselves should stop following Hikaru because he's a liar

[@shelbyglazier1644]

Im becoming a hans fan. Chess is mental and it appears hans is fighting from the depths of hell. Chess Constantine.

[@Ishbikes]

Yea, they screwed around & made him *the underdog.* Ppl love underdogs..

[@spiralni]

Time to realize hans is a super strong and different player

[@martini2305]

agreed

[@ilyateev_ilyass]

But still we didn't see his prime yet to compare him to nepo hikaru magnus peak it's just stupid

[@robinvincenc3688]

@@ilyateev_ilyass he is just a mean narcissist that just bites everyone who dares to point out messed up things he does or did and no ammount of elo will change that. Maybe if he didnt insult everyone the second he gets to talk he would be invited to more tournaments.

[@JawOT]

I don't care if any of the top players and organizers hate Han's or not, that should be completely irrelevant. That could possibly be a clue that there are many more serious problems at the top level of chess. Hey guys we hate Michael Jordan and therefore he shouldn't' be allowed to play. Imagine any other sport where this kind of crap happens.

[@fleetadmiralsengoku8188]

lol exactly and can’t believe everyone letting it slide. so sad that “top players” chess has this elitism..

[@randomnobody8770]

Add in all the other issues: hes not a top player, hes from US, he files lawsuits that get thrown out. Until he gets better, nobody wants to deal with them if he don't have to.

[@michaelh13]

Hans is nowhere near to Michael Jordan equivalent levels. Also, the isolation isn't unfounded, he was caught cheating in a bunch of games.

[@dillonferreira3529]

Once you become old enough to get a job, you'll realize that you can't badmouth the manager and boss and expect to keep your job, but hey at least you can talk about the hiring mafia all working together.

[@DoddyIshamel]

Hans isn't Michael Jordan... your analogy would be if some college kid got caught doping, trashed a hotel at a game the league had paid for, sued the league and two top pro players, then is surprised he doesn't get signed to the big league.

[@IrinaTrustsGod]

Dude Hikaru thinking that Hans didn't see Daniels falsehood, really delusional. Hans was simply as friendly as Daniel was. Only chess players have the arrogance to think that their real motives and intentions are a closed book to others.

[@SavantGardeEX]

Yeah he knows danya was being professional lmao

[@ahmadfaraz2518]

But Hikaru never said that Hans didn't know Danya was just being professional

[@ludomirsteinbruck9376]

I think Hikaru is constantly projecting.

[@pakchess69]

Agreed​@@ludomirsteinbruck9376

[@LunaticSoldiers]

@@IrinaTrustsGod Naroditsky was more than professional, he was polite. Frankly, Hans' "I reviewed the games myself, they weren't anything impressive" was an unnecessary, unprovoked, and egotistical comment to dodge Naroditsky's extremely valid point. Starting a game down 3 points and finding ways to win an entire match by over 30 match points is absolutely grounds to ask "What if?" Hans just didn't want to admit it because he feels it would hurt the narrative he is pushing. Conversely, I think if he had actually conceded some ground there it might have done him some favors and made him look more reasonable.

[@aurum_4332]

Hikaru thinks talking about a "chess mafia" is ridiculous but then talks about how this happened due to "rumors among top players" - kind of like a mafia.

[@dillonferreira3529]

Let me explain in terms you would understand. At Susan's 12 year birthday party, you called everyone stupid and broke her toys, now you are not invited again. Easy to understand right?

[@mirawenya]

Today I learned gossiping is the same as being a mafia. I never knew I was a mob boss.

[@bartv2962]

​@dillonferreira3529 we know how the situation IRL is, I understand you might need these infantile hypotheticals to grasp real world concepts but most of us get what Hans did in the past.

[@rohan1864]

wah wah it's so unprofessional that peers have private conversations among themselves in their private time :'CCCCC some of you people are completely detached from reality

I don't like Hikarus attitude here, anyone agree?

[@judemorales4U]

He has an opinion of Hans and it shows. I don't mind because although I think Hans is a brilliant player, I find him so dislikable and potentially has cheated in the past.

[@Ulxaaf]

Exactly my thoughts. He showed here like he was a judge. He talked down to them. We can see it just from the very beginning.

[@Ulxaaf]

Exactly my thoughts. He showed here like he was a judge. He talked down to them. We can see it just from the very beginning.

[@padarousou]

He seemed pretty fair to me

[@jr4338]

I love his attitude

[@askdrten]

HIkaru, he has admitted and take rsponsibilities for his cheating when he was young; i don't know why YOU keep saying he never? he has? multiple times? his issue is why are certain people who has a personal agenda never got over it and keep repeating the old story of the past? and also, so many other people cheated and if the same treatment is consistent, why single him out?

[@Themusefan4life]

He kept claiming it was in games that didn't matter, without prize money or rating. He's also being singled out because he's an unlikeable "women's nether region" in his behavior. People say he's a "bad boy"; he's just toxic, and gained popularity because God knows. Like him if you want, I respect that. Would you play against someone who refuses to own up to anything until caught, and then repeat that process? Saying Hans has taken responsibility for his actions.. Not sure which delusions you've had watching his videos, but he has yet to own up to the fact that he cheated in tournament with prize money. Stop saying Online doesn't matter. there's ratings there too, but more importantly, PLENTY of online tournaments with prize money, in which he has been confirmed cheating when he was 16.

[@stephenhogg6154]

@@Themusefan4life You need to listen to the interview again, then maybe you'll stop talking nonsense.

[@Owlr4ider]

Did you even read Daniel Rensch's tweet...? Hans cheated on many more times than he admitted to. Why is this so hard for you guys to understand...?

[@stephenhogg6154]

@@Owlr4ider That’s pure speculation. There's no proof of that.

[@TheLastAbacus]

The fact that Hans has legitimately become one of the upper echelon players in chess given his history is so awesome for the game. Not much point in a "bad boy" of chess if he sucks. I mean here he is in the semifinal with Magnus, Alireza, and Hikaru. Kind of speaks for itself, that's like the 4 main characters of chess in the public eye at the moment.

[@eliaslodin9237]

And Fabi :)

[@WaffleKnight1]

Hans is well known for his drama, but he's not in the upper echelons of chess players. Speed chess is completely different from classical. Andrew Tang placed 2nd in the bullet championship a few years ago. That didn't make him a main character, and this doesn't make Hans one. He's just a good blitz player.

[@TheLastAbacus]

@@WaffleKnight1 What? He is ranked 27th in the world as of today's official FIDE rankings, right next to Rapport and Grischuk. How is that not amongst the elite?

[@WaffleKnight1]

@@TheLastAbacus When I think of the upper echelons / main characters in chess, I think of the people contending to be world champion in the Candidates, not someone who has never qualified. He has a lot left to prove.

[@itaintinnit]

@@WaffleKnight1 Depends on your definition of upper echelon I guess. But how could you write something so blatantly false as "he's just a good blitz player"? Your point with the Andrew Tang comparison is valid in a vacuum, but in relation to Hans, it's not, as Hans is currently #23 in the live FIDE classical ratings, while Andrew is rated 200 ELO points lower. That's a groundout, not a home run.

[@mostefa9270]

I agree with hans he is logical

[@thesubhumancomedy]

Follows standards?

[@jmaycock]

Top players gossiping about Hans is not evidence.

[@dillonferreira3529]

No one said it was...

[@spencerfly1007]

No one cares 😢

[@Egyfitness]

He didn't mean it was. He meant that Magnus didn't start it...

[@jmaycock]

@@dillonferreira3529 that’s Hikaru’s whole argument for why Hans got banned.

[@randomnobody8770]

@@jmaycock Watch the video and write down the arguments. According to Hikaru, Hans didn't get invites because he wasn't a top player, is from the US, is litigious, is a hotel room destroying headache, had recently been found to be cheating some years prior, was loud and evasive about it, and people simply didn't like him. He's wasn't good enough for this to instantly go away. It'lI change with time I suspect. He has gotten way better.

[@ItsJared___]

Hikaru is clearly defensive here, he knows he played a big part in all of this early on

[@RIZ2NE1]

12:18 yet hypocrite Hikaru said on Lex Fridman it'll only be proven if Hans was caught in the act with an earpeace or such... insinuating he actually did it . 19:57 two face outing Danya for something he said in private, makes me blieve Hikaru already watched the interview and wants to embarrass Danya for softening to Hans at the end

[@IannOnCracc]

hans is 100% cheating, will be good to see him get destroyed by magnus and then in a few months dominate online tournaments randomly 🤣🤣🤣

[@aleksjenner677]

@@IannOnCracc 🤡

[@cz19856]

@@IannOnCracc tripe laugh face shows the big copium brother

[@dogukantopal4809]

​​@@IannOnCraccSo he cheated againts MVL and SO?

[@smashergrilla954]

​@IannOnCracc your name fits you because you definitely must be.

[@tbcstuff3634]

Because he cheated when he was 13? Come on buddy..

[@polasoliman6986]

And other instances later as he said, bro he initially said I never cheated in prize money events then 10 mins later he said they ban me because I made a $100. It’s not about how much, he keeps lying! Plus who said cheating in non prized money events/games is okay?

[@finmat95]

Once a cheater, always a cheater.

[@user-sl1ry6op7m]

He cheated 16-17

[@dpend]

@@polasoliman6986 It's actually insane how people are too stupid to see through Hans' lies 😂 it's so pathetic to look at the comment section of that interview video and how taken in people are by his fake charisma

[@patrickmadden6340]

16 actually and at 17 in the US you can go to prison so

[@SweetJennyFan]

Top players had suspicions. That’s the bottom line. Are you insane ?

[@march8482]

That's a valid argument. On its own it's not enough to proof someone cheated, but if can be an argument why people may evade him for example.

[@Cupinson-w1w]

@@march8482hikaru was using it as a way of deflecting blame off of magnus and more-so himself for accusing him of cheating

[@march8482]

​@@Cupinson-w1w Did he accuse him of cheating, or did he have suspicions of him cheating. I haven't watched all the videos. If there is a fire and there is someone involved that started fires in the past (and his side of the story doesn't really add up), I can see why someone would have suspicions. Doesn't proof that that person did it, but it can justify people being 'cautious' around him.

[@nerderspree]

The top players having suspicions about Hans doesn't justify Magnus declaring that he's a cheater and refusing to play him. There's a disconnect there. It's a leap in logic to say "hmm, well, we all have suspicions, so let's light the torches, grab our pitchforks and unleash a world of hate upon this kid"

[@juliocadavid6640]

Accusations are wrong but if youre talking about "avoiding him" for the team championship recently, magnus was in his total right. Magnus doesnt have to play him in such events. Teams are made by 10 players, each match is 6 players vs 6 players. So 3 players can choose to play or to not, the reasons should not matter, it was his right to not play The accusations, that single tweet was obviously wrong

[@nerderspree]

@@juliocadavid6640 Yeah, I wasn't talking about the recent stuff. Just the whole debacle in St. Louis. And it was more than just the tweet. Him withdrawing from the tournament spoke volumes and then he pulled that stuff at the chess24 tournament and took some pretty obvious shots at Hans when interviewed. As for the recent team stuff, sure, Magnus has a right not to play. But him choosing not to play only against Hans is pretty transparent. The reason doesn't matter as far as the event goes, but it does matter within the context of all this ongoing drama. I do get that Magnus had some difficult personal stuff recently and probably didn't feel like playing nice with someone he has a lot of animosity towards. I can sympathize with that. But if he wanted to avoid drama, that wasn't it. All it did was fan the flames.

[@LuisMedina-dk3vc]

Hikaru is almost 40 years old and he never takes responsibility for all the times he screwed up, but Hans took responsibility for his mistakes when he was a kid. That's the bottom line. How many mistakes have you made in your entire adult life and you didn't take responsibility. Do you remember how you treated Alireza and his family?

[@Getexposedddddd]

Hans is taking responsibility? To this day he denies when the cheating happened, there was only like once or two instances when he was 12 or 13, the majority of his discovered cheating, over 100 games and multiple prize events occurred in 2020. Lol

[@fabioguitarsolo]

Hyper disrespectful agains Alireza's family.

[@jay31415]

@@Getexposedddddd what are you going on about? There is no evidence he ever cheated in 2020.

[@futurefox128]

What's the Alireza story about? Genuinely curious

[@MichaelMcNeffII]

Actually Hans lied. He was caught cheating when he was 20

[@traveller5278]

so a bunch of top players were sus with no evidence and you think you are in the right???? Its literally proving the chess world is ruled by the top players and they can blacklist anyone they want with accusations with 0 proof.

[@dillonferreira3529]

Yeah if you steal from people, lie and belittle them, guess what, they don't want to play with you. Now you can talk about the anything-mafia being against you

[@QueekHeadtaker]

he cheated online bruh.

[@MrFootofDavros]

The problem is people working for the online platform who are inferior chess players looking to get pally with the top players. What should be confidential information then gets shared, leading to what happened.

[@omarelsabagh9084]

Hans was jumping suddenly from a casual 2500 player to a 2800 player in some matches, then jump back to 2300. This was suspicious to anyone, not only top players. On many occasions before and after this event, he loses to casually 2200 players. Then he got back to the 2800 hat in the SCC. Isn't that suspicious? Who knows.

[@IronResistance]

@@QueekHeadtaker And? He was already punished for that?

[@sirchristopher7684]

Hikaru part of the chess mafia confirmed.

[@WooHoogg]

you know watching these videos I wonder that Hikaru ever reads the comments on his videos and actually realise that his Roman Empire is slowly but surely withering away

[@ILoveAOC]

*@WooHoogg* I agree. Hikaru is very successful.

[@TyrannosaurusCHEX]

It seems like chess streamers do tend to have a pretty short shelf life - most of them are here and gone in a couple of years, hikaru has done it long enough to see himself become the villain of his story

[@niicotheartiist3881]

I cringe everytime hikaru laughs. Hans is the sanest person in this video

[@matthewjohnfit6000]

saying “all the top players talk and had suspicions” over and over isn’t a good enough response to something that exploded to this degree

[@dillonferreira3529]

Not really why he said it but ok

[@dontbescaredhomie3137]

I think what he is meaning to say is quite fair. No other titled player who cheated has been singled out with a publicized report.

[@ahmadfaraz2518]

He might be right there but the problem is he faced hurdles cuz he defeated Magnus OTB in a tournament when everyone was suspicious about him

[@dontbescaredhomie3137]

@@ahmadfaraz2518 He's not wrong that it's the implied influence. It's not a conspiracy where everyone sits around the table, but like Hikaru says it's just backroom chatter between people who have influence which leads to situations like these where things can go a rapid pace against someone and everyone is publicly just watching the fire but hiding the matches in their pockets.

[@cheezerock]

I just hear hate and bs from hikaru

[@SamuelJayBee]

9:18 Hikaru smiles because he knows he's a part of it

[@zulfiqarshah3108]

I was a huge fan of magnus and hikaru. Every time when they beat hans i really enjoyed. But over the time when i research the whole scenario i became admirer of hans. This interview was the last nail in the coffin. And the way hikaru has reacted to this really broke my heart. I feel sorry for hikaru and his pathetic facial expressions.

[@hardboilednut8215]

So much justice would be done if Hikaru just openly admitted that his accusations against Hans back then was a way of getting clout or siding with the big names and taking responsibility but instead he is in too deep and can only try and damage control by making goofy faces, averting blame, and dying on his hill. It’s sad how the top of the chess world can be dictated by people with fragile egos

[@Deerjason]

Yeah I hate when top players constantly “imply” their opponent is cheating. Just look at Kramnik or Alireza’s cheating accusations when he was an unknown person. Top players are so stubborn and refuse to accept when someone played better than them.

[@john3453739]

hikaru digging his own grave

[@Abhishek-y6i3j]

hikaru is saying now i don't think hans is cheated in saint Louis !! i mean what a joke he is now when hans beating everybody then he saying these things and when magnus withdrawn from tournament then he is the first one who is accusing constantly hans in his streams . He is always favoring magnus , is he has guts to say ever that what magnus did at sent lous is wrong . offcourse not !! remember what vishy said "i prefer to mouth shut if i cant prove anything".

[@zxbc1]

Well it's better than not admitting it. People's opinions change, and if Hans can legitimately and consistently prove that his chess level is top level, it'll change more people's opinions. I don't think admitting being wrong is anything bad. Not just Hikaru was pro-Magnus in that rivalry, a lot of others were. If you beat the best player in the world there's going to be questions raised no matter who you are, and especially if 1) you had a history of cheating even if in your younger years, and 2) you refuse to explain and analyze the actual moves in the game. The suspicion people had was entirely legitimate, it does not make people evil or cowardly or a joke.

[@Abhishek-y6i3j]

@@zxbc1 still is these speculation is enough to ban someone ! before banning someone you have to prove clearly ! and what Danny rench doing he said hans in call that he is not cheated and then banning him . Is it find why not Hikaru saying anything and instead of directly blaming they can put there words may be but hikaru is always being accused hans after magnus incident. How is it fine ?

[@dillonferreira3529]

@@Abhishek-y6i3j Jesus my guy chill out you probably don't know anything that happened 😂😂

[@zxbc1]

@@Abhishek-y6i3j You are either having a stroke or you are illiterate and didn't go to school. Please come back with a translator to express yourself.

[@Abhishek-y6i3j]

@@dillonferreira3529 you tell me then !!

[@rturp23]

Why do you laugh when he mentions morals and then say,”I.e cheating”. He was 12 years old! He made a mistake that he completely regrets. Try, for once, putting yourself in his shoes

[@johnrichardson7629]

Get your facts straight

[@9Kualalumpur]

TBF he also cheated, by his own admission, later in life, around 16-17. He just says that he only cheated for money at 12.

[@wallyllaw]

He has obviously cheated many times since that as well. It's just disgusting how he takes no responsibility of that.

[@user-sl1ry6op7m]

He cheated 2-3yrs ago

[@dpend]

He cheated many many times after 12, he cheated in cash money events when 16-17 and keeps lying, and then people like you show your lack of intelligence by defending an obvious cheater and liar. 🤥😂

[@CARPB147]

Bottom line: Magnus Carlsen was a *sore loser* in St. Louis last year.

[@samuelmorkbednarzkepler]

Lol, wtf?

[@CARPB147]

@@samuelmorkbednarzkepler Were you living under a rock that this sounds like news to you?

[@samuelmorkbednarzkepler]

@@CARPB147 I know what you’re referring to. It’s just a fucking retarded way to try and draw attention away from how incredibly poorly Hans continues to behave. Also for the record Magnus had and still has very good reason to suspect Hans of being dishonest about his play. Even with that Magnus barely said anything about it at all. So comparing Magnus making a reasonable insinuation of foul play on twitter with a meme after the game and Han outright saying some really toxic inflammatory shit during interviews and being aggressive about every minor thing during the game etc is just stupid. These are not the same things

[@phishmo914]

I lost respect for Hikaru watching this. His sarcasms and gaslighting Hans when Hans is actually making sense and being genuine about his experience and telling the truth. It’s so annoying to watch.

[@696634]

I respect Hans a lot more than you 💯 You've shown your true self through this

[@theNfl_Esq]

Hans was complaining that you don’t cover his wins v Anish only his losses. But he looks forward to your recaps. Thought he was being sincere

[@kishalanfire8857]

Hikaru, you are the first chess KZbinr I love most but in these comments, most people support Hans that makes me happy I really hate when You're smiling at someone's serious issues you are supposed to be as neutral as Daniel this proves that you are also in the chess mafia so when you react to this kind of interview as one of the senior and top chess players you have to be neutral

[@amin.eftekhari]

Hikaru is miserable and proud 😄 he himself doesn't take any responsibility in His doing in the whole thing

[@IgnacioAguilarToledo]

9:30 What is that laughing Hikaru? You remind me of those high school bullies. You perfectly know that 19 years old Hans experienced a world wide public humiliation on social media. Partly thanks to you. You were one of the people who started it and who promoted it together with Magnus Carlsen. No shame...

[@Peter-hz3vs]

He was THE GUY who started all the fuel. And many of the "statistics" that "proved he cheated" ended up being debunked by statisticians. And he never removed the video and added any notes to those "proof of Hans cheating " videos. He is definitely a bully. As much as Kramnik's accusations were baseless, it showed how easy it was to just manipulate statistics and show basically everyone in the world "cheated".

[@Perdu...]

Guess Kramnik was right about everything all along!!!

[@Ishbikes]

*Everyone’s on steroids* - Nate Diaz

[@alexanderallegra432]

He made a good point that magnus plays known cheaters overboard but not Hans. His history of cheating was only brought into question after magnus had a hissy fit.

[@ehgal8690]

Y Hikaru do u roll your eyes when Hans classifies the cheating he did at 16 as stupid? Was it something more abhorrent like a murder in your perspective? He made a bad decision and acknowledged his wrong doing. Whats the unforgivable egregious crime he commited that warrants your incessant redicule of him? Sad...

[@BogusLion]

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[@dillonferreira3529]

How much Hans cheated: ____________________________________________________________________________ How much Hans said he cheated: __

[@BogusLion]

@@dillonferreira3529 how much other top players cheated and the report hasn't come out: _________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________________ How much Hikaru and magnus fanboys speak about it? _

[@EchoesPF878]

@@dillonferreira3529 how many brain cells you think you have: __________________________________________________________________________ how many brain cells you actually have: __

[@aliawada1126]

Hikaru really has a kid's logic. I think he and Hans should switch their ages

[@LiamPowell-Jones]

I’m glad people are now rallying behind hans

[@AdugboChess]

Hikaru, how did you feel when Kramnic accused you of cheating?? Bad, right?? Why give the same feeling to Hans? Trolling him with your thumbnails on your other videos. You all need to do better.

[@Macca15]

Because Hans has a history of cheating online.

[@elibrown6513]

​@@Macca15he was a kid. No comparison

[@MonkeyAndChicken]

@@elibrown6513 17 years old is legally a minor, but it's not "a kid". He was old enough to know better, and had already been caught and punished once when he did it. And even worse, he's continuing to lie about it in interviews now and claim he's a victim of a conspiracy. There is zero question that Hans has no remorse for what he did and would still be cheating if he could get away with it. People don't trust him because he's not trustworthy. If he had had any integrity as a chess player or human being in the first place, you wouldn't even know his name well enough to stan for him.

[@storyahee]

@@elibrown6513 it's called reputation

[@tengu8560]

@@MonkeyAndChickenyap yap scrub

[@SweetJennyFan]

Not sure you did yourself or Magnus any favours with this video dude.

[@readifdumb]

Hikaru, you literally said "we'll find out in 6 months to a year if Hans cheated or not, it will become apparent", and a year later there is still no proof, but you're now acting like you never said he was a cheater or that he continued cheating, as you laugh and mock him, and then anytime he says anything you don't like you backpeddle and say "well top players have said..."??? Like a bunch of top players hating on a kid doesn't prove anything. You can't be a fence sitter and someone conspiring at the same time.

[@scottekoontz]

Someone should interview Hikaru and play the old clips. Hikaru acts like people have no long term memory.

[@nathanbanks2354]

Maybe he thought it would become apparent, but it's still difficult to tell. Presumably videos like this still drive views.

[@readifdumb]

@@nathanbanks2354 All you have to do is cross reference games that he's had in the past year with the game against Magnus, and see if he's played at that same level over the year, and if he has multiple times showed he's capable of that, then he's not a cheater imo, or he's cheating so much and getting away with it that these companies holding these tournaments really need to crack down. However applying occams razor, I'd say it's less likely that he is getting away with cheating this much, and is just good at the game.

[@PawsAndWhiskersYT]

20:07 Hikaru you literally exploit Dannya about his thoughts to hans cheating, while Dannya in the interview he pretended that Hans did not cheat, and what's better, Dannya said he is an honest person

[@PawsAndWhiskersYT]

I want to add one thing, Hikaru did dodge some questions to be answered by answering previous non important topics compared to the real question to be answered by him

[@musinKanto]

@@PawsAndWhiskersYT right on point 👌

[@nikhayes3396]

More people know who Hans is because of what happened, and so ultimately he is the winner. When Hikaru says “top players were saying things, thats the bottom line” ??? how ambiguous is your bottom line? Thats just weird. I do agree with Hans, Hikaru would get more respect if he just said “it was wrong of me to assume and participate in rumors”.

[@Keys_9914]

Hikaru is just so subjective ... he can't be unbiased ... he can just look at situation from a neutral point

[@61Damola]

Why should he apologize for beating Magnus?

[@ahmadfaraz2518]

Who said he should apologize?

[@Ishbikes]

@@ahmadfaraz2518the chess mafia

[@musinKanto]

Magnus had a Diva moment and the viewer thirsty hienas made this case. It’s unlikely Magnus will ever be apologetic about it. “It’s just over his grandiosity right?”

[@_.perme._.kadum._]

Love hikaru’s game but not Hikaru as a person… he is a childish immature old psychopath… that rant after losing to Alireza is one of the evidences… Hans’ maturity shows up through how he fought against the community to bounce back when he was accused but when Hikaru himself got accused by Kramnik u guys show all the childish drama he put up. Big L for Hikaru.

[@lifeonsibuyanphilippines7212]

So he accuses Hikaru of collusion and all Hikarubdoes is say "100 bucks is a lot of money for a 12 year old.". I just lost all respect and like for Hikaru. I am liking Hans more every day.

[@aarondavid826]

Bet you like Tucker too huh

[@lifeonsibuyanphilippines7212]

@@aarondavid826 I don't know who that is ......

[@aarondavid826]

@@lifeonsibuyanphilippines7212 thank god

[@UniversalKnowledge01]

This wasn't a good response from Hikaru.

[@rsr22.3]

I think Hans will become more relevant and inspiring with his recent wins and with some selected top GMs trying to downplay the same.

[@nothat1pop897]

Feel for Hans. Actually agree that Magnus decided to have a tanty and ruin a career.

[@ryanm4964]

ruining someones career bc he admitted to cheating when he was 12 years old is straight up insanity. he was a kid! wat a pathetic stance from hikaru... i can't respect someone who has zero empathy for a mistake a child makes at a young age. i will be cheering hans on.

[@Bhubnipz]

Only when he was 12? This situation damaged Hans so much because of Hans own actions and personality. The people who know him best, who have played against him for all these years, are the ones distancing themselves from him the most. That should tell you something

[@KrazyKrzysztof]

Multiple instances my guy

[@cwynn1547]

Most people in the comments don't realize that the interview was AFTER Magnus refused to play him. That's the main thing Hans was reacting to, and the reason Danya was doing the interview, until Danya brought up the underage cheating. Unless there are new charges of him cheating, I don't think people should refuse to play him based on the cheating as a kid. Magnus refused because of the lawsuit against him, which is fair, not because of the childhood behavior. I kinda don't blame Hans for saying people keep bringing up the underage cheating when he is trying to leave it behind and play over the board to work his way back. He did serve his time on that.

[@dscyberdefense]

Hikarus point summarized: because multiple people have suspicions and no concrete evidence, you are allowed to destroy a teenagers career and character in front of the entire world, make a lot of money in the form of content from it and disregard any valid point said teenager makes. What a great guy you are. Also, making meme faces and laughing at valid arguments makes you look like an idiot.