Harbinger is still ok, i guess

[@ItRudeToStare]

Harbinger ass reapers will never not be funny

[@daanstrik4293]

Now I want a mod where the only thing it changes is change the reaper torpedo to “The ass reaper” on phase ships exclusivly.

[@seniorbob2180]

Business in the front, party in the back.

[@AbcdZyx098]

Harbinger my beloved ❤

[@kaleidoscope3234]

good to know the ship is still op and devs still have room to drop more nerf hammer on this ship. It's about time low tech get some love

[@Kuba_K]

Low tech is ok, slow but not weak

[@ahmataevo]

It's only SO that makes it usable after the nerf, and it's still worse than useless under AI control. Between SO and phase anchor, phase ships have about half the OP to use now.

[@glipmine7109]

"It's about time low tech got some love" My brother in Ludd has never heard about eradicators, brawlers or hammer barrages apparently.

[@SadomazoPeestrooneen]

Are you some kind of masochist? Why do you want your favorite toy to be nerfed to the ground? Harbinger is already suffered many nerfs, and the 0.95.1 has put the last nail in his coffin. Without SO Harbinger is completely unusable, if compared to other ships of the same DP. I just don't get it, guys. Why would you want your favorite toy to be completely stomped? It is a singleplayer game, not multiplayer. You don't need everything to be balanced.

[@ahmataevo]

@@SadomazoPeestrooneen - It's the low tech crowd. They'll say low-tech is best tech because they can put SO and a pair of assault chainguns on it and smash through everything, but then turn around and say high-tech is too OP and needs to be nerfed because you can put SO and heavy blasters on some of them.

[@eladiocardoso8699]

Beautiful flying dude

[@bigbrainenergyguy]

Seems like the extra damage from HSA would help a little. Is there a reason not to use it?

[@Kuba_K]

Maybe, i didnt even know it increases dmg, i could swap it with solar shielding probably

[@bigbrainenergyguy]

@@Kuba_K Yeah it got buffed at some point and now adds 10% beam damage.

[@raystargazer7468]

Whats HSA?

[@Kuba_K]

@@raystargazer7468 high scatter amplifier, hull mod

[@raystargazer7468]

@@Kuba_K right right. Thx.

[@werefree-theslaves]

not a single core from that, real

[@SusanoRipper]

its impressive how despite that shitty coil stress you managed to pull this out. I fucking hate what they did to phase ships in this patch.

[@Kuba_K]

Coil stress isnt that bad, but removing 3 charges from quantum disruptor was awful

[@SusanoRipper]

@@Kuba_K yeah, tried it yesterday, it just fucking sucks now, but ofc afflictior is still as it was. So they nerfed doom and harbinger, meh.

[@Kuba_K]

@@SusanoRipper afflictor is best normal phase ship now, then doom probably, harbinger is here just so you can swap it for ziggurat early, i just hope alex doesnt remove its universal rear slots, that would kill this ship

[@SusanoRipper]

@@Kuba_K Right, it's still 4 rockets to kill ziggi, or just use two to get ziggi early (though ziggy feels somehow weaker too).

[@ahmataevo]

@@Kuba_K - He's more likely to add low-tech phase ships with none of the disadvantages or nerfs the high tech ones got.

[@Garsad]

What a Legend...

[@tapurate638]

Harburger

[@123HunterHead]

what the nice my whole fleet with end game stuff got wiped out cos of one of those big ships that phase teleport. tele away when i ntrouble nad teleport forward for kills. man I never used this phase ship or weapons before . need it. and here i thought those teleporting remnant ships were the best

[@Kennet0508]

Thats some nice piloting thoo

[@Alexandragon1]

Greatly done! Keep going!

[@dxq3647]

I don't really like the design of Phase ships. Changes the dynamic of the battles too much, especially in the hands of humans. Good video though

[@h4xorzist]

If you give it 3 emp pulsars even the ai can do very well with it.

[@Kuba_K]

Not really its still 18DP for ship that cannot tank damage at all. For similar costs you can get hyperion with much greater survivability and mobility and similar damage output. And ai really struggles to use quantum disruptor, sometimes it will use it just to retreat instantly

[@h4xorzist]

​@@Kuba_K Yeah it might not be the best ship for the ai to handle, but it can 1:1 a conquest. It's important to have only pulsars because the ai seems to go for the engines that way at all costs. It's a bit gimmicky as it will need the correct amount of dissipation, capacity and speed or the ai will not start performing the proper maneuvers. (ideally diving right through but that's only really accomplishable with an ai shade) It will perform differently in a group scenario, but it will still completely utterly disable anything it meets, as the ai does mag dump properly. It's an exceptional monitor exterminator. As with any ai phase ship, it will do really well until the ai fucks up and dephases into instant death.

[@Kuba_K]

@@h4xorzist i noticed that with harbinger specifically ai will try to target engines, but due to ship speed it will run out of flux basically getting stuck in enemy ship then retreat and then unphase in enemy weapon range. Happens very often especially in larger battles.

[@h4xorzist]

@@Kuba_K Yeah that's why the pulsars are pretty much the only ai build due to the pulsars fully disabling the enemy ship so it does not matter much if the ai dephases at the wrong time same goes for the shade with it's built in emp and missile defenses.

[@h4xorzist]

@@Kuba_K Also like I mentioned before the ai only performs well when within the optimal flux / vent / speed (this one simply goes up) parameters as it has a predefined playstyle, and the ship has to match that. Given these settings it will perform some rater remarkable maneuvers.

[@omniscientindisplay7217]

if you wanna be optimal, just missing a cryoblaster and two antimatter SRMs instead of reapers. whatever you gotta drop to get them, totally worth. dont really need shit like high scatter and solar or extra vents generally, just cap

[@Kuba_K]

Nah, if you want to fight solo vents are extremally important, they allow you to stay mobile, solar shielding really helps with drone dmg, it helps armor tank those burst pdlasers. I doubt sth like this could be done with your build, but it probably performs better as support/hullbreaker

[@omniscientindisplay7217]

@@Kuba_K naw, ive solo'd plenty of radiant fleets with the setup i've described. i disagree that vents let you stay mobile. thats cap, not vents. vents reduce the duration you need to spend outside of phase, and help ease the in-phase hard flux gain. however, especially when running adaptive phase coils, cap directly = maintained speed. as long as you have the cap to move out of range to vent out of phase, to recharge, i genuinely think vents do not add anything of value. if you find that you don't have enough time to move out of range(which cap provides), sure, vents will help you dump faster thus reducing the amount of time you need to tank shots while within enemy range. however with good cap, you can always just move out of range instead. not saying vents arent good, but they arent as good as proper weapons and cap. wasnt saying solar isnt good either, just that a single cryo easily triples or quadruples your dps, and thus is more than worth dropping solar for. i mean to each their own. ive personally put a ton of time across many playthroughs on harbi's (i think its the best vanilla ship to pilot, including zigg and radiants simply due to how much faster it makes fights in a players hands, while radiants ect do fine on their own) and i used to run vents as well, but now i think they really only add comfort/ease of use to the playstyle, not power/strength

[@Kuba_K]

@@omniscientindisplay7217 are you sure it works in current version? I mean it was strategy to go for earlier but with phase coil stress and quantum disruptor nerf i just cant imagine it working. Anyway i will test this

[@omniscientindisplay7217]

@@Kuba_K no im not sure. that depends when those nerfs came in. i havent updated my game in a few months. what did they change about stress and harbi ability? if testing, id drop solar, and high scatter if youre using that now. cryo prio, SRMs really just for ease of use and ending battles quickly, they arent 100% mandated as they dont do much to big ships but the cryo hard carries that aspect. man that thing needs a nerf. cap with leftovers

[@Kuba_K]

@@omniscientindisplay7217 it is pretty old nerf, latest version came out like 10 months ago, harbinger now has long cooldown and only one charge, and it slows down the more hard flux you have so if you have like 70% you become pretty much immobile

[@Exterestix]

BRUH THEY BUFFED THE HARBRINGER TOP SPEED FROM 80 TO 100 WTH WHY

[@Kuba_K]

It doesnt change anything, it will be slightly better for ai, and when piloted as powerful as it is now

[@seamusm9529]

Ah yes the funny

[@Akhi_Furqan]

Still broken*

[@Kuba_K]

Nah it requires massive skill points investment, it is strong when maxed out but almost useless otherwise

[@AyoKeito]

Not that it matters in singleplayer-only game. Let people have fun.

[@eksdee3249]

Chad low tech gang vs virgin phase abusers hehe

[@m3rc333]

@@Kuba_K Hey I saw you write something about this elsewhere but cannot find that comment now. Anyway, I believe you said something along the lines of "you can either do this massive combat skill point stacking or you can go green tree for officers and better economy". I'm very tempted by that latter strategy as that is kind of what I'm going in my current playthrough. Could you elaborate on that? Like which skills/ships/officers etc. do you recommend.

[@Kuba_K]

@@m3rc333 starsector reddit probably? So the strat is to go for full leadership skill tree and then take some industry and tech skills completely forgoing combat tree. I would recommend sth like: (tactical drills, wolfpack tactics, crew training, Officer training, officer management, best of best) + (Navigation, Sensors, Gunnery implants, flux regulation) + (Field repairs, polarized armor, makeshift equipment, containment procedures, hull restoration) This skill layout will allow you to have superior logistic profile (cheap fleet, easy exploration) and will allow you to have incredibly powerful fleet, The only downside is it will be super boring since you shouldnt pilot powerful ship yourself (without combat skills it would be dp waste) You can also forgo some logistic skills to get automated ships to even further buff your fleet combat performance. And why it is so powerful? Well you get 3 smods, additional fleetwide buffs to performance and 10 lv6 officers (normally it is 8 lv5). Keep in mind that, amount of officers impacts deployment point distribution between you and enemy, so having +2 officers is really big difference. For ships, most are good but notable ones are: hyperion, scarab, monitor, heron, mora dominator, eradicator, onslaught, aurora, eagle. Just try to keep composition. (slow ships are best with other slow ships and bombers, fast ships are best with other fast ships)

[@Mango_416]

Honestly the ship isn't that op at all The ship is only as good as its captain

[@MrMadMikserrr]

The worst ship in the game, lack of armor and a speed debuff makes it unusable

[@Kuba_K]

Weird thing to say under vid of it destroying whole ordo, but i agree it is terrible for ai.

[@Zander10102]

Why's your game running so slow? Twelve whole minutes on a battle sheeeeeeesh.

[@Kuba_K]

Phasemagic

[@Zander10102]

@@Kuba_K i mean even when you arent in phase