Hard vs Soft Urethane Golf Balls - What Does the Data Say?!

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Muskrat Links Golf

Күн бұрын

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@bogdanbusui5249 Жыл бұрын

Broke the 69 likes on the vid, but couldn't help it. Honesty and data driven video gets my like always🥳

@muskratlinksgolf Жыл бұрын

Hahaha I respect the commitment to the Like, for that, you can have a Pin! 🙌

@davidaragon3330 6 ай бұрын

I am as actually curious about this subject. I stopped playing 12 years ago, and ball options have grown, so have the prices, but kept running into SOFT options, I want to settle on a ball type. This was good. Thank you!

@muskratlinksgolf 6 ай бұрын

Glad it was helpful! Ya there a lot of independent testing going on these days which is nice, certainly check out MyGolfSpy to see some charts and data to help target a good ball for your game!

@ryanu3708 17 күн бұрын

I’m 64, 4 handicap index. I’ve found through years of my own personal testing and experience it doesn’t really matter which golf ball I use. I’m going to card an 80 with a new Callaway range ball from my club or a ProV1. It makes absolutely no difference in my scores.

@muskratlinksgolf 17 күн бұрын

@@ryanu3708 Man if I could sign up to be a 4 HCP at 64 I'd take that deal right now. And that's exactly one of the main points of this video, most recreational golfers are not going to see a scoring difference between two balls of different compression as that is one of the smaller factors among variables that influence scoring. Cover material itself makes a massive difference comparatively to compression, and ball striking pits both of those variables to shame in terms on influence on score. Can you optimize your golf ball to give you slightly better odds of scoring, absolutely!

@muskratlinksgolf 2 жыл бұрын

Please take the time to make sure you are subscribed, it will go a long way in helping me purchase an iron for my wrinkly shirts 😅 What ball do you guys play???

@lorenzell3104 Жыл бұрын

Im starting to think that there is virtually no difference between most golf balls.

@muskratlinksgolf Жыл бұрын

To your average golfer there is absolutely no difference, there are so many more factors that impact play in a much greater way. To golfers that are getting close to scratch or a robot, there is a very noticable difference that will have a direct and predictable correlation with spin, launch angle, ball speed etc. So it really depends on where you are in your golf journey! Me being a 7 HCP, any Urethane ball will certainly be good enough for me to play my best!

@888Longball 3 ай бұрын

I found that it does matter when playing in cold temperatures.

@aj897 2 ай бұрын

Go play with a Nitro and then play with a Pro V1 or a TP5, you’ll see there is a difference for everyone. People just don’t want to admit it.

@BruceOglevie 5 ай бұрын

nice video! I keep hearing compression really doesnt matter too much, but I swing 85 max driver 225 or so. Thoughts on compression I should use. Currently my 2 gamer balls are the Vice Air Pro and the Srixon QStar Tour. The Srixon is 67 compression and Air Pro 75. I pay to an 11 handicap.

@muskratlinksgolf 5 ай бұрын

@@BruceOglevie Depends on what you need for your swing really, even at 85mph club, you will still gain distance from a firmer ball. Will it be noticeable for you at an 11hcp or me at a 6? Not really, pure ball striking is still miles ahead in determining if we hit a good shot or not, but at least when you fo square it up, you might get an extra 10 or 15 yards!

@BruceOglevie 5 ай бұрын

@@muskratlinksgolf by “square it up” do you mean with higher compression ball I may gain the 10-15?

@muskratlinksgolf 5 ай бұрын

@@BruceOglevie Technically speaking, studies have shown at every point of compression is about 2 or so yards extra all things even.

@Bucksreviews 2 ай бұрын

Softer Compression is mainly relied upon swing speed for lower to mid speed,, so with one swing speed at a higher 102 to 105, it isn't a great data parameter.

@muskratlinksgolf 2 ай бұрын

With lower swing speeds the gap would be even smaller. It's a popular myth that slower swing speed golfers need a softer ball to hit it further. Check out some other robot testing from places like MyGolfSpy and you can see these different settings in action with a robot instead of a human it's pretty insightful. 💪

@callaway19647 5 ай бұрын

i play Srixon , q star tour... soft but not tooo soft, great trajectory and piercing distance off the big stick, hot off the irons and very impressive stopping characteristics for a 3 piece 70 ish compression ball. my driver speed cant deal with balls in the 90 and up compression range.... I don't need data to tell me that the z star will drop and stop and hang with the best of them but at a cost with too much in flight iron spin, losing yardage., feel does that. golf is almost all feel... what club to hit in a divot, rain, wind, around a tree, etc. and what your balls characteristics will be in those scenarios settle on a ball that will stop quick enough for your game, give you the distance you want ,and putt successfully

@muskratlinksgolf 5 ай бұрын

Great opinion there, for most golfers it's all about confidence. Ball striking is the main problem for a vast majority of people playing the sports and will the thing that affects score the most. When you get to a level where you are playing mini tour events, other factors start to become more important, but until then a confident strike is going to be leading factor in keeping score low assuming a urethane covered ball. Good luck out there my friend! 🤝

@ejd1149 11 ай бұрын

The problem with your test is the companies don't have a uniform way of measuring the compression. You need to measure the compression of the the balls yourself in your test sample.

@muskratlinksgolf 11 ай бұрын

Yep that's why I use mygolfspy to get all of my compression data as they are an independent group with consistent testing! That being said, I'm actually working on my own which could be spicy. So all my data in this video is accurate and unbiased.

@keendeesjarlais3636 Жыл бұрын

author is data driven as opposed to feel? I would hope he recognizes some manufacturers actually bear that very name- ie: soft feel, super hot feel... etc.. ive experienced all types of golf balls in my 63 years and thats literally what you had to go by, there were no tracking options that were completely precise to todays standards. the bs / b rx feels great to me.. doesn't checkup as much as pro v, hits further, actually less inflight side to side movement.very workable around the greens... its definitely the ball for me..

@muskratlinksgolf Жыл бұрын

It would have been interesting to live in the times where all you had to go on was what the manufacturer told you. I feel like golfers would be much more inclined to do what you did and played the ball they think felt the best for their game. A lot of golfers will still do that, but I'm data driven for sure. If I test a ball that matches what I need for my game, I'm playing that ball regardless of how I perceive it! Great comment! 💪

@AussieBob999 Жыл бұрын

focus matters

@bobnodzo535 8 ай бұрын

It’s just like every new driver that comes out claiming more distance it’s all marketing you play the ball that your favorite pro plays or just the standard favorites just have fun

@muskratlinksgolf 8 ай бұрын

Exactly, every manufacturer worth their salt produces hard goods like clubs and balls right up against the USGA limit, the choice is yours to play what you enjoy which is great! 😃

@lumberjack7923 7 ай бұрын

ive never bought a golf ball in my LIFE . I play range balls that look good or ones I find. I am 62 yrs old . 4.6 hcp . I hit driver 225-240 carry. 7 iron 140 - 155 . my short game and putting are the SEPARATORS . SO random balls that I find my whole life ..........other than when I WIN NEW GOLF BALLS playing in tournaments............. have not made much difference for me personally . DO NEW PRO V 1 balls go further when I play ? MAYBE but not noticeable enough that I would spend money on them . JUST play what I find in the ditch / pond / along fence line serves me well and cost nothing BUT COSTS $$$$ my playing partners at the end of the round who ALWAYS PLAY BRAND NEW BALLS AND LOSE AT LEAST 1 OR 2 a round . so the cost of new balls for them and forking over their losses on top of that LIFE IS GOOD !!!!

@muskratlinksgolf 7 ай бұрын

Absolutely! You can easily just play what you find and enjoy the benefits of premium balls when you get them! Almost makes you play better not wanting to lose them 😂 glad you enjoy the hunt as well my friend!

@jamesroberts943 Ай бұрын

Callaway RBX?

@muskratlinksgolf Ай бұрын

There's a TaylorMade RBZ, is that what you are talking about?

@smokefree08 4 ай бұрын

Titleist went a bit further and had a way better flight.

@muskratlinksgolf 4 ай бұрын

A firmer less spinny ball is certainly better for my swing speed and launch characteristics 👍

@Bucksreviews 2 ай бұрын

He didn't calculate swing speed for a slower average. Try 90 to 95 mph and I bet that swing speed may hit the softer ball further than the harder titlesit which is meant for the 105 swing speed he has.

@filmthemallwatcher9194 10 ай бұрын

is there anyone that can test length. I'll decide what's best for me. I just keep asking which is longest LONGEST. just test distance. I'll decide which is best for me

@muskratlinksgolf 10 ай бұрын

Not sure if there is a complete sentence in there, but absolutely pick which ball is best for you and your game!

@filmthemallwatcher9194 10 ай бұрын

is everyone afraid to test ball's like callaway warbird. or velocity because they might be just as good as the pro v 1.

@muskratlinksgolf 10 ай бұрын

They certainly can be as long since compression is the driving factor for distance as proven in repeated large scale independent testing assuming an equal clubhead speed and impact location. However, losing 6000 RPM of backspin around the green makes ionomer/surlyn balls essentially worthless inside of 150yds compared to urethane covered equivalents. Can you play with cheaper ionomer/surlyn ball? Of course, but you will be relying on the extra height that cover produces over spin to control your distance inside of 150 which is objectively a big disadvantage. That being said, I love testing all sorts of different constructions and models so we will likely see a test like that in the future on the channel!

@IPlead5 6 ай бұрын

It's SO hard to pay attention to you when your shirt looks like you grabbed it out of your laundry hamper.

@muskratlinksgolf 6 ай бұрын

I'm trying to save up for an iron, so I would suggest turning off ad-block and watching the video back a few more times until you can pay attention long enough to digest it all. 🤝

@duncanmacleod7283 Жыл бұрын

Pointless exercise really as there's no industry independent compression standard. Manufacturers each have their own compression measurement specification, so you can't make an accurate comparison between different manufacturers' products.

@muskratlinksgolf Жыл бұрын

Typically this is an accurate comment but these compression numbers are from an independent testing source so it is uniform across brands which will help prevent exactly what you are talking about! Currently there is no regulation governing manufacturers so independent sources are required to assess compression in a meaningful way. The data you see here is from that source.