Fast Strike Vs. Stinger Tactical Self Defense Whips

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[@hard2hurt]

Question for Viewers: What other kinds of self defense weapons should we take a look at?

[@Boasill]

Have you heard of that self defense cap with like a weight at the end?

[@felsith]

Knuckle keychains and the kubaton - besides the flashlight bring better what bugs you so much about it?

[@DocTarnation]

Improvised weapons. For example, how would an electrical cord (say an extension coord) compare to a tactical stinger?

[@jobjobbed8459]

@@DocTarnation rolled up newspapers or magazines en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Millwall_brick

[@jamesortiz5388]

Rubber whips Mexican border gaurds use.

[@TheSpiritus0]

I'm starting to believe that this is less about self defense and more about Mike exploring his new whipping fetish.

[@mercury2814]

Izzy 😂😂 honestly tho!

[@erikbakker1639]

Lol! Laughed so hard I almost dropped my phone when when i read that.

[@ebandzzz3169]

Well when u think about that’s actually not a bad guess

[@paulpolito2001]

This is fucking hilarious to me.

[@SpaceMissile]

next week: tactical flogger

[@Oscubasteve]

Lmao, he got disarmed by a punching bag 2:10

[@alejandrom4544]

autodestruction 100

[@halokhartus8620]

Fatality

[@omarg1471]

tfw the nat 1 hits

[@MonsterPumpkin]

And people say punching bags don't fight back

[@Daniel-jm8we]

That settles it. I'm going to carry a self defense punching bag.

[@KappaKiller108]

Pretty Much Nobody:....... KZbin Algorithm: here's a video of a man with a broken arm getting hit with a metal whip about a dozen times

[@mikeschmidt4800]

Everybody: that is better, that is better. Thanks KZbin I've finished now.

[@kevinkimbrell377]

Take the handle of the fast strike for concealability and the cable and spike of the stinger and you've got a winning combination.

[@ObservantPiratePlus]

I have both. I got the Fast Strike first, but when I got the Stinger, I put my Fast Strike in a drawer and forgot about it.

[@deepaksinghjat2929]

Hi Jordan, can we chat over insta?

[@PlanetHell67]

Because the Stinger is more effective?

[@nathund1]

@@PlanetHell67 well I mean think about it rationally: while the fast strike is probably faster, the difference is minimal to non existent considering its like an 8th of a pound vs like a full pound. While that's not gonna be a noticeable difference in speed, it IS a noticeable difference in weight and potential energy, and therfore the amount of damage it can do. Plus, ignoring the (in my opinion) effectively worthless tiny spike, you swing that big ass stinger at someone's head and actually connect, that's lethal force for sure. Plus the stinger is longer and more reach is just good. The stinger is just better in every scenario thanks to its versatility and higher potential damage to end a fight quickly

[@rubiconoutdoors3492]

Are they legal to carry in any state?

[@johnboy992]

Nice I have a gun but a whip is nice to

[@fredrickdakine]

Can't resist the challenge even a year late.. a self defense tool's purpose is to help you safely extract yourself (and/or others) from a situation where life and/or safety are threatened whereas a weapon's purpose is to do damage / facilitate an (offensive or defensive) attack. Of course, there's a lot of overlap between the two, and any object can serve as either, however, some items will be more suitable depending on your intent with the long term legal impact likely being top of the list to evaluate in most situations ;-)

[@hard2hurt]

Nailed it

[@MohseenLala]

"I took it in the back, with a hoodie and the stinger".... Ehehehehe

[@karatejoe4347]

and I'm IMohseen Lala

[@dj-ir8tm]

Thats what she said lol

[@Smokeyxz]

Woody* ;)

[@Stryfe52]

@@dj-ir8tm literally all of these whip videos just have tons of ‘That’s what she said’ moments; I’m starting to think they do it on purpose

[@MrChubbiful]

This is interesting from a fencing/HEMA(Historical European Martial Arts) perceptive. Lead hand vs. rear hand. If you have a sword with a hand guard, you can stand with your dominate hand leading. Which gives you range and speed. No hand guard, you switch to dominate hand in the rear, to protect your hand but this also can give you more power and allows you to defend or grab with your leading hand. Small fast cuts(jab) or large swiping cuts(cross).

[@brandonwordmusic]

The little gasp after the strike at 8:20 made this whole video for me.

[@charleswagner1724]

1 million subscribers you’re gonna test the cutting ability of these cable whips. Brother, the internet is going to make that happen.

[@flyingspaghettimonster2925]

69 likes it's perfect

[@andan2293]

Yeah, we just need to get this to Reddit, lol

[@magetaaaaaa]

Lol, I love how the punching bag was able to disarm him.

[@rallen7660]

I heard about an old farmer who got into a fight with his son-in-law, and went to his old truck and snapped off the antenna, to use against the younger, stronger, bigger man. The son-in-law had to go to the hospital, he was cut up so bad.

[@ThePresidentialTouch]

A car antenna will hurt you badly quick. The only good ones left to use for it these days are on trucks.

[@felsith]

Alright let's get to 1 mil subs stat

[@DruidicRifleman]

Legit what convinced me to subscribe.

[@VFXBishop]

Seconded

[@savtracc2116]

@@DruidicRifleman same

[@williamgray1236]

I subscribed straight for the 1M goal. Let’s get it !

[@orestesvega2475]

YOU CAN'T DO MUCH WITH THAT SHIT AGAINST GUYS WITH KNIVES.

[@3rdracer]

i picked up the material from home depot for 10 bucks and made my own home made stinger.cheers

[@JohnCarloRuiz]

Tutorial pls boss

[@vindiesel3066]

You could probably make one by buying some cable and wrapping one end in duct tape

[@3rdracer]

John Carlo Ruiz : 1” 1/4 wooden dowel ( get a size that fits in your hand comfortably) 3/16” coated steel cable, steel cable hardware to lock in the cable inside the dowel( hardware is found right next to steel cables at Home Depot) I cut the wooden dowel to about 7” ( you could make it alittle linger or shorter) then I drilled a hole in the middle of the dowel for the cable( I messed up my first try , make sure to drill as straight as you can)guided the cable through the hole made by the drill, I looped the cable on one end and used the hardware kit to lock it in place. I left about 16” of the cable sticking out the other end. Be careful when you are using it, the end of the cable could hit your own wrist or fingers.i swing it in a circular motion away from your face and body .happy building

[@JohnCarloRuiz]

@@3rdracer Thank you! I already have the cables and hardware at home. I'll get to it tommorow.

[@MrSoggyjocks]

I've got an old pushbike lock/cable that's basically the same braided metal cable and plastic sheath. But I think I will wait till someone really pisses me off before the conversion haha

[@DrubaDub]

I got a FS a few years back... used it once (VERY effective on hands), and threatened with it once (intimidation in the face)... BOTH worked Perfectly... I am very interested in the Stinger too...

[@guybayliss319]

Imagine the fear factor of the stinger, just someone tries to steal your bag and fails and your just like "boy you've done it now" and pull the stinger out the way you'd pull a belt out and start swinging, that dude is running instantly.

[@jayvang7490]

They should make it black, so if it's an evening encounter, they'll never see it coming. Just a woosh and paralyzing pain

[@guybayliss319]

@@MrCmon113 I forgot I even made this comment but anyways, I’m fairly certain that you wouldn’t know what it was.(I don’t think these are super common) It doesn’t take a super strong person to be able to screw you up with one of those. Plus, I’m still thinking it’d be scarier to look at than the other one while in use because one is a knife like baton looking this and one you could start swinging around a red vine of death

[@tomrobison4274]

You guys are awesome your testing really goes the extra mile! The main problem with both weapons is when the fight goes into close contact either of them could be taken away or rendered inaffective. Either would work against untrained individuals but if your up against a trained or skilled fighter it has far less chance of winning the fight. Great video! Tom R

[@richrokk]

Great presentation of the weapons and I love watching you hurt yourselves! Kudos!

[@TheDarkJok]

8:20 That is the perfect illustration of the difference betwen them. One is more like a blunt and dry impact, the other is more like a sharp and precise pain. Or, at least, that's whats I got out of the video.

[@markwilson7162]

We need T-Shirt merch with "The hoodie does not help!"

[@ralphy69420]

You guys deserve way more subs and i’m sure you will blow up soon. I thought you had at least a mil until you said you didn’t and i realised you had 80k. Keep up the great videos

[@MARQUARIUSZARNICKLE]

3 years later and they’re halfway there

[@Wildledroses]

Love that your buddy is talking more

[@carlosvargas8689]

That intro had me weakkk ahahaahhaha "I get the bigger one" "for once in your life"

[@natew1494]

"Excuse me while I whip this out"

[@Caitanyadasa108]

You win! Epic quote.

[@edwardjohnson5331]

Another KQ listener .

[@GHOSTJMOON]

Ultraman!

[@diogeneskoolaid8437]

ooh shewiff!

[@FireinTheBowl]

I'm sure the Stinger hurts more, but the fast strike is easier to conceal and carry. I would go with Fast strike.

[@kyeounggido]

Hey Hard2Hurt. Like your video and opinion on these tools. Especially how you differentiated the differences on what it is comparable to(baton and knife). I also think people need to decide what they are using it for. I get it they are for self defense, but at the same time depends on person. I believe the smaller(fast strike) of the two is is more of a deterrent like pepper spray, alarms, tazers...etc. Also for people with lack of self defense practice and training while still able to do some damage. May sound funny, but I was thinking it could be used like whipping a towel. You can get those fast popping snaps with some extra reach. Then as it being flexible can add another type of attack if being blocked by something. Kinda like fighting a bo staff against a 3 sectional staff. 2 similar weapons, with very different attributes as one being hard and one a soft weapon. As for the stinger... I would consider more of and offensive weapon. Seems like you would have to be more committed to using it since it is longer and more hefty, but also keeping in mind that it will really mess people up. I mean that thing will shred flesh and I am pretty sure it could break bones too. Yeah, I guess if you wanted to choose you would have to decide if you want to let person know leave you alone and mind their business then get out of there then go with the fast strike. If you are a larger person and the fast strike may be too small or want to just fucking annihilate someone with a few strikes then I would go with the stinger.

[@615bla]

i just love the dynamic between u two

[@legaulois7588]

"Today on Whip Reviews Daily"

[@slickbat5746]

My boy making that BIG whip money 😏

[@laroybell3313]

The Stinger has the Kubaton end that automatically makes the SD tool illegal in some states like mine in MI. The Faststrike whip looks so bland, and I love that. It's underestimated and you can really conceal it, so perps won't see it coming nor think it's effective when it is. It's that psychological element and its practical design that makes the Faststrike better for self defense IMO.

[@budlight9308]

Thanks, i been trying to decide what one to buy and now i know after watching the video

[@IHateHandleNames]

It's like comparing a wire coat hanger and a lock-in-a-sock as self-defense implements. You dont wanna get hit with either, but for different reasons.

[@johngr1747]

Martial arts masters: I am great at disarming opponents with weapons! Bag: 2:10 hold my beer

[@aramirez8427]

Love you guys......taking one for the team like that.......

[@SuperOtter13]

I loved the answer to "are you ready?" About 7:15 or so. Lol Keep up the good work gentlemen and lady.

[@bait3027]

Back in the day you just used a car antenna. Still effective!

[@bait3027]

@Adam Korzeniowski back in the day

[@HansV1973]

So Mike, what do you recommend for those with physical limitations and or physical handicaps for self defense. What techniques, products/weapons would you recommend? I think this would be a great subject for a video. I personally had a really bad motorcycle accident and was left with a few limitations (definitely not my old self). I actually studied martial arts since I was 13 yrs old, taught hand to hand combat to police, worked as an executive security agent for a while, and although I've had a few moments where I had to still use my skill set, I often wonder "If I still can properly defend myself" even with nerve damage, lack of strength in my left arm, can't run nor jump because of permanent injury to left leg and knee. I mean, I've defended myself physically, yet I know my limits. I already did my research and own a Taser Pulse+, haven't had to use it yet, but it does give some peace of mind. Yet, in the moment I tend to forget I have it and resort to hand to hand (because out of habit and I know my shit). But I also know my limitations as my father taught me every man should know what he's capable of and what he's not capable of. I'm 49 now and over the yrs physically I've changed, and it's only down hill as I get older, thus I must learn, adapt and over come. But I can't have a firearm nor do I feel that's always the best response. Anywho, just a question and a thought, hit me back with your thoughts on it and or make a video bra, lol. I'll watch it for sure.

[@DynomitePunch]

lmao XD that little hop he did right before picking the fast strike back up reminded me of my little cousin when he drops something XD great vid guys, definitely gonna get one of these stingers sometime

[@CeltWulfe]

I see this as an equalizer, ie an assailant pulls a weapon themselves, to level the playing field. This would be great to crack hands and wrists with, along with tender elbow joints and soft targets. Doubt most folks could hold a weapon after getting either of these sjambok whippy style tools slapped against their knuckles, fingers, hand or wrist. Also, if there are multiple attackers, a surprise deployment could give you a striking advantage in both damage capacity and slightly more range.

[@DocTarnation]

The most important question: What is the likelihood of losing control of the weapon in a self defense situation? --Like Jay did when it went flying out of his hand. Because, losing your weapon or having somebody take it from you is a very good reason to not use one. Especially a concern for smaller, slower or less agile people--i.e.: the people who would probably have the biggest need for a weapon.

[@MrChubbiful]

a lanyard would help in this situation, which the stinger has.

[@its_taps]

Better tighten your grip!

[@felsith]

Mike can you make a vid on the kubaton And why it grinds your gears so much

[@Will-zs9ny]

He's explained before, it cause he feels that if you wouldn't have won the fight without the kubaton, you won't win with it.

[@hard2hurt]

@@Will-zs9ny basically

[@MrChainrule]

You might as well have a flashlight

[@metamorphicorder]

Basically the kubotan is seriously only effective on its own in very limited situations. In its standard form, its effective if you are attempting to restrain and control a subject that isnt trying to attack YOU. Its not really effective if you are being attacked. Think about being a bouncer on jerry Springer, you have someone who doesnt want anything to do with you and is just trying to get to someone else and you are just trying to hold them back. You are likely bigger and better trained than them and just have to between them and their target. And in that case you likely dont need something like this and by the time you have optimal position to actually use a kubotan you have 99 % control of the situation any way. Now, how is a kubotan effective for personal actual self defense use? In the form of something like the ASP key defender product. It is a standard form factor kubotan. But it has some additional features to it that make it a little more useful. Though you really need to know your areas weapons laws before you go using one or carrying it. One, it is a solid billet of aluminum. The non striking end has a brass pin with a hole drilled in it for the placement of a split ring for a keychain. Additional items can be added to this. Like a monkey fist or a huge fishing weight or whathaveyou. Anything basically with mass and hardness. This now becomes an effective short range flail. The real bonus feature is inside though. Its hollow. Inside is a jumbo sized perfume tester type canister filled with pepper spray. The brass pin is actually a plunger that is secured with a plastic half collar that is fairly easy to slide out and then press the pin down. The plunger presses against the bottom of the canister and that pushes the valve stem on the canister open. The stem rests in a little nook on inside of the striking end, there is a tiny little through hole that it feeds, when depressed, it emits a misty cone of peppery goodness that is good for about a yard to a yard and a half. Both end unscrew for replacement and cleaning. This puts the tool right on your keys, puts it in your hand when you need it, is securely attached to your keys and is a pretty demure tool from a legal perspective. You are lucky to have had it when you needed it, your mother got it for you as a gift and you just used it to protect yourself when you feared for your life. That fishing weight is a gift from your grandfather. Or the monkey fist was a fathers day gift from your son you made those for boyscouts or something.

[@greggonley8110]

I had the same idea as the stinger co when I bought the fast strike. So $2 bucks at home depot and some paracord wrap, and you get to dial it in to your arm. And, technically in California (yeah, shut up, I know, family...) the metal tip of the fast strike makes it a mace instead of a whip, while the metal in the cable didn't. Also, the Stinger has a kuboton in it, so that's out too. BTW, if your bag has a zippered expansion gusset, these whips fit in the dead space nicely

[@nicoelgreeko]

The price point of each item make this an easy one fellas: Fast Strike for when you are out and about and The Stinger you keep in your car or home or shed. I can see using the stinger effectively against a range of wild animals, as well. One solid smack would send most critters running for the hills. I always have a knife on me when I'm in the woods, but a non lethal option (that's not a big stick) would be nice. Plus, the stinger in your car is good for breaking out your or someone else's window in an emergency.

[@the_part_time_geek]

On your first video with the Fast Strike, near the end of the video you started using more of a whipping action with it, like popping a towel, and at the time you seemed to get better results with it rather than by just slashing at the target. I imagine this is due primarily to the metal tip? Or are there some physics involved that assist with the efficacy?

[@hard2hurt]

So there is some timeline fuckery with these videos. You are very observant. When we first started with it we started trying to swing it like the stinger. When I started flicking it like a jab in this video was the end of that day of filming. There are two videos from the same 2 days of filming so that's what you're picking up on.

[@UrbanCommando]

As long as you guys test the tools on yourselves Im down for anything.

[@raulclaros1025]

Bro, you are so on point. Awesome video!!!

[@user-xu3kz4ru8f]

Thank you, Teacher. 🙇

[@mouseking9812]

Have you seen "Bodybuilder vs tactical stinger whip" looks like he is getting whipped with about 80%, just want to hear what you think about it.

[@troygreenwood4933]

Trey and Dumbdumb, hilarious!

[@troygreenwood4933]

Hazaah for the Bell Life!

[@Jaburu]

just saw it. at one point the skinny guy even used 95%ish on his back. makes me wonder how effective it would be against an adranaline pumped person

[@inquisitorsquish5422]

The confusion of the weapon (what is that / that hurts me alot) would be an asset to some degree in limited self defense against an undetermined attacker.

[@hardinmichael1981]

If your attacker is undetermined/uncommitted then why would you need a weapon at all?

[@matthewwoods632]

I’m gonna extend a much less informed opinion on the question weapon vs self defense tool: A weapon’s intended purpose is to cause damage (i.e. harm/disable a target), while a self-defense tool’s intended purpose is to provide a deterrence or an opportunity for escape (inflict pain). The difference is in the amount of damage caused and the goal of doing so.

[@ThatNiceDutchGuy]

So, I presume. One might get you in legal trouble after using it and the other not so much.

[@codingvio7383]

I do food deliveries as a side job while I am in Highschool. And I carry one of these in my belt loops, so when I do get into some sticky situations when I am in the bad sides of town, I still feel safe. As I dont need a proper license to carry it, like a knife.

[@CoachKussenVuist]

Love the reviews! question: if the attacker would have some sort of high guard up before or after being hit by the stinger, would the stinger be able to knock away the forearms or have a moving effect in terms of the mass of the steel cable?

[@humanbass]

He would feel severe pain in the arm. That's the most important aspect.

[@hard2hurt]

I dont think it would physically move the arm... but he would move them in reaction from pain for sure.

[@1126steve]

I believe the Fast Strike was designed primarily as a tool to allow a potential victim to quickly get away from a would be assailant rather than ending the fight. A couple of well placed strikes (to vulnerable areas) will certainly buy enough time to escape, and definitely discourage most from resuming the assault. (I carry one, and practice often with it. My right hand is also free to reach for my HK ...

[@josebroce]

thanks for the great information on your youtube channel. I got the benchmade socp Skeletonize dagger. I will love to have your opinion about it.

[@boilabum]

I've watched a few of your vids so far, very interesting stuff. Kind of amazed you dont have millions of followers. But then I'm not because people seem to be generally allergic or immune to truth or reality. Keep it up, I subscribed :)

[@brodi81]

I'm a cyclist, I generally carry mace on me (I live in the opioid mid-west where muggings happen a ton). If you guys could do a bicycle defense video that'd be killer. Thanks. Keep in mind I'm in clipless shoes, so footing is an issue. Basically I'd be defending myself in tap shoes. I've had a couple instances but I got lucky and could speed off, but on the offchance, you know?

[@magnusatheos7301]

I saw a brief clip of a police training scenario where the cops used their bike as a shield/self-defense weapon. They would grab the bike by the bars and seat, and hold the bike up towards the assailant thrusting the bike towards them to maintain space. Maybe hold up part of the bike by the bars with one hand to maintain space between you and the assailant and strike the assailant with the weapon in the other hand. Could make an interesting video.

[@Kayakwinds]

This series of videos concerning tactical whips is very interesting. And it is providing a lot of very practical knowledge about the usefulness of these devices. I hope you will continue with the series and show how the average person might employ them for self defense.

[@mjgarrett9885ify]

I used the the cheap drain snake and hacksaw the length i wanted and used black electrical tape . It work's fine .

[@SkyWolf69]

The same light you had go off in your head when you held both of them at the same time, went off in my head with a push dagger in one hand and a karambit in the other lol

[@elppedro77]

Either one would be a good defense against someone with a knife, before they get too close, to keep them away from you. You would be striking them in the face or the arm that the knife is in. Thanks for the demonstration gentlemen!

[@hardinmichael1981]

1) a person with a knife is not going to show you that they have a knife. 2) a person with a knife is going to kill you, they don’t care if they get a little hurt while getting it done. These things are completely pointless against any kind of real attack.

[@madedigital]

THE FACT THE SMALL ONE DOES NOT LOOK LIKE A WEAPON MAKES IT MORE IMPACTFUL

[@LokiCDK]

This is not the first video where I've seen the Stinger... I am an Arnis practitioner and I did in the initial video I saw it in, go straight to thoughts about how we would use it as a baton/kali-stick analog. It would be employed somewhere between how we use a knife and how we use a baton, having lost some of the defensive capabilities, but amplifying our mid and long-range baton strikes potential for damage.

[@mickeysquintz9650]

I used to have a telescoping baton with a head roughly shaped like a UFO roughly 3/4" in diameter. It was much heavier than both of those but I haven't been able to find the exact same model again.

[@fludblud]

Stinger needs a metal tip at the end of the whip, maybe even a small steel ball and it'll be perfect.

[@pekestyxx6674]

Just the tip.

[@NidgeDFX]

3:00 when a brotha was exploited in whipping exercises and limps off set holding his cheeks...

[@learningtolivewithhumans1859]

im building some of these with my brother for my own kit, it will entwine in my top armour and pull out of the back like swords when they are in they will act as spines in the armour

[@tmitchable]

thanks guy to demostrate the self defend static, I would buy one of those to put in the car in case

[@mikelitoris3438]

I ordered myself a stinger tactical A baton can be caught. This VERY likely wont be caught due to the inmense pain. A baton can kill someone. This cant under almost all cercumstances.

[@wadehensley5005]

first time you crack someone in the calf real good with that stinger they're done.

[@Rubinkieth]

Good idea can't generate power from bottom up if your legs are getting tore up

[@timepieceguru4483]

I have the fast strike and just ordered the other one today so lets see how I like it.

[@nephiilim]

you could also turn the stinger around and whip someone with the handle like a sort of mace or ball and chain .

[@Troommate]

Whip Dual wield! :D short and long

[@mariaexodusbosconovitch]

This reminded me of Trevor doing that in Castlevania.

[@redshift1223]

Walking around with a pikestaff is a little cumbersome.

[@boilabum]

Oh and I'm totally making my own with a fat steel bike cable after watching these vids. I might even be able to squeeze out two whips from the one cable I have.

[@LGZEE]

That glass breaker handle should have a Shocker Device on it. With a ton of shocking power. Then I'd buy it. A Black Jack works really well also. Had to use one a couple times and they never saw it coming.

[@rogersmith6391]

"1mil sub shiz is gonna get really weird lol"

[@wesbecool]

And they just gained one more 👍

[@XxMeatShakexX]

8:20 When you find the male G-spot

[@lutherportnoi1611]

Watching these guys makes me feel like I can open a self defense gym.

[@natekelly770]

Idk whether that's a dis on the channel

[@Bxwaveprince]

just got mine in the mail.....just got it as a novelty...was a pretty cheap price....no complaints on it...actually maybe one...i was testing it out on some wood behind the job the day it came in...full power swings, cant deny that...but the plastic outer layer started to split...it had like 3 small splits , they were short.....i just wrapped a thin width band of duct tape around the split with about 3 layers.....that shit is solid now! probably hurts more with the way i have it...

[@jeffdante5544]

Use a full pig for a pig roast to test the "cutability" of the two whips.

[@OnurH61]

before even watching the video... stinger

[@ziomudru]

i just subscribed , hoping to see you reach a million subscribers and then keep up the promises "i ll take scars for a million" :-D keep up the good work guys!

[@riskit4reels462]

Light bulb went off in your head. No that was the light shinning off his head. Love the videos brother

[@lutherportnoi1611]

All I need is a beard and a t shirt and I open a gym.

[@Zoco101]

The Stinger looks fantastic for under a shop counter or in a car door pocket. The First Strike looks better as a ccw, and I'd consider carrying one if it were rougher here (it's blissfully peaceful) and if I could import one. Dunno if I can. But in Europe you're really better off with a walking stick (preferably oak with a stubby handle) if you can be bothered carrying one. It has a longer reach, it's more explainable, and it's more impressive in the eyes of an aggressive dog. And it's also useful as a walking stick on light country walks. But I get it, these are urban tools, and it sucks carrying a walking stick everywhere round town if you don't really have a bad leg or hip. How about building the Stinger into an umbrella, a handbag or a scarf?

[@Werewolf.exe77]

Good to see that you are willing to take it a 1 mill

[@colesaul-milligan7478]

Thanks guys

[@jordanwest7741]

Just out of curiosity, could you review a Sjambok from Cold Steel? I see a few security guys using them as a Non-lethal weapon. Like a full what you can do and damage they can do. I seen it used once and the marks left are devastating.

[@MartinSproule]

To avoid self damage with the whip would you say it could be treated like nunchucks? Cos obviously theres a backswing issue with those.

[@bsoohooz]

can you explore the possibility of holding the whip end and swinging the handle? almost like a flail? the aluminum (?) handle on the stinger looks like it could deliver some serious blunt force

[@wesleyhawes916]

So just need to add a brass cap to end of stinger to get the "bite" of the fast strike?

[@ClokworkGremlin]

Serious question: How do these compare to batons as far as effectiveness vs. legality? Are there situations you think these would accomplish the user's objective which also aren't basically just the user committing assault?

[@10-OSwords]

I feel you could get a small glass breaker product & possibly jerry rig it to the fast strike for bonus protection but still have concealment. Plus I feel the smaller size lets you go ham & not have whip-back on yourself & overwhelm somebody with quick hits-especially a few hits to the face with that metal tip; sayonara.

[@InstinctiveRelfex]

the difference between the the two is you might get a faster velocity with the fast strike, but it won't have the momentum and follow through of the stinger. Best analogy I can come up with would be calibers from bullets 5.56mm has a higher velocity and accuracy to its impact 7.62 more penetrating power and impact. Not the best way to compare the two I know but in terms of just trying to find a good comparison it works I feel. With things like this is all about the mass of the object and the velocity of it, can I swing this as fast as the other? If so, then the only way to get more out of it is to increase mass.

[@joejoelesh1197]

This is the Icy Mike video that made me subscribe

[@halomaniac74]

I felt that in CT!

[@MITCH1221]

I would say the stinger. If someone gets you in a chokehold, the kubaton will come in handy.

[@gaylethorn7692]

I carry the Fast Strike for my self defense needs. |It's imperative I have good concealment while carrying on with everyday life. it was super easy to attach on my shorts when going to the fair without a purse and it didn't impede any of my movements. I also got through concert metal detectors and they looked right past it when going through my purse. \I think it looks less threatening than the stinger and is just overall easier to carry.

[@CoryRizzMMA]

The thing about the heavier cable model. Lot of upsides to it but the handle should be smaller and easier to conceal. I just don't see carrying that around. Where are you going to put it? How often do you really need a glass breaker? How many times do you want to take the point of the glass breaker in stuck in your skin? The design could be refined. Does the handle even need to be made out of metal at all? Polymer? Maybe a flexible handle that would curve around your waist or something. It will be less effective as a fighting tool but you will have it with you when you need it.