Testing the Stinger XL Tactical Whip: Bigger IS Better!

[@hard2hurt]

If you want to anything from Stinger, go to thestingertools.com/?ref=exitil1zg9b and use code ICYMIKE10 to get 10% off!

[@adamlee581]

Damn you mike I just ordered one. Gonna be about $120 by the time I've paid import charges and shit Still, I do have a legit use for it

[@kanekopoint4273]

my whip is 3 quarter inches thick and 3 and a half feet long its painful

[@1of1juu70]

🤦🏿‍♂️🤦🏿‍♂️

[@kanekopoint4273]

@@Matt90Ninemmmyes indeed

[@adamlee581]

@@Matt90Nine ive got normal whips too and they might be good for pain compliance but you'd never stop someone advancing on you, he'd just walk through anything but the most perfect strike to the face. Plus there's little kinetic energy in a bull whip

[@lovefunbeer]

"Dude we can't" I can't stop laughing 🤣

[@alikos88]

I dont get it...

[@biglc034]

@@alikos88 Two white guys, one of whom is a former police officer, literally whip a black man on camera...can't see that being problematic.

[@alikos88]

@@biglc034 Oh... I am from Argentina, I didnt get what theyr saying first makes sense now

[@stoweby]

Oh yeah, there was no way to keep it from becoming an issue no matter how many times he wanted them to.

[@jobahd3626]

@@biglc034 Twitter crossing borders

[@jesterbob828]

This is a BDSM channel now 😂😂

[@JSharap]

Nah. It's a subtle BDSM channel from day one.

[@mattjohnson2386]

What (buy dumb shit movement)

[@LuisNgchongJrArt]

*true😀*

[@jkphilosophy101]

You have to look in between the lines

[@djangologistics7476]

Smh lmfaoo

[@heresjonny666]

Next in the range: Two handed greatwhip. ;)

[@JayR-ct8pv]

Bro pitch that shit to them lol.

[@JR_22A]

One hit with that even at 20% and the guy would go into shock and pass out XD.

[@camfer9616]

dude, YES!

[@treroney4720]

Bull whip

[@Odinfang]

Considering how this whip looks, making a homemade two handed stinger would be possible. The pain it’d inflict would be indescribable. The power output would definitely exceed the sjambok.

[@gyrox0031]

I'd love to see full force shots against a watermelon or something for a more visible comparison and an unrestrained display of the damage they could do

[@Dano1411]

...check Stinger's website, I believe a pumpkin winds up on the losing end of the equation.

[@tavor2099]

A pork shoulder would be a good human flesh analog

[@ryangarrett3401]

Go to Houston Jones Chanel. He does a full force test on himself and other things like watermelon

[@Stranger_Root]

So what was the verdict? The XL is 50% heavier, but it seemed like the original Stinger had you guys in a lot more pain. My biggest takeaway was basically "The XL would probably be worse if we were willing to hit each other harder than 20%, but we are not."

[@hard2hurt]

Probably

[@xdragon2k]

Alright, let's get a ballistic gelatin and go full force on it. I want to see it explode.

[@JayR-ct8pv]

That's a great idea. 👍

[@JR_22A]

It would not show much ballistic gel is to get shot at not to test blunt weapons, even if properly made it can still be more elastic/abrasive/dry/etc than flesh, a chunk of pork with skin would be far better .... but they said they would not do that.

[@wintermute1]

A block of clay such as is used to measure impact through ballistic armor would be good

[@joebloe4461]

It wouldn't explode, I don't even think it would show any damage. This is a non lethal weapon that causes a lot of pain, but no serious injuries.

[@woodcockjohnson4475]

well if you wanna watch someone get hit full blast then you should check out Houston Jones channel.

[@visableusername_93]

Please tell me somebody spotted the "Hard2Squirt" bit 😂😂 I was dying

[@hard2hurt]

That was an accident.

[@visableusername_93]

That's what they all say Mike.

[@manfalls1521]

She just needs to embrace that peeing sensation and let go. Its not that hard.

[@flagler5954]

@@hard2hurt sure it was as a long time viewer I love your vids so good to know that someone on KZbin knows what say to make me laugh my butt off thanks for being there when I am stressed or angry you are a great teacher to ur students thanks for the tips tricks etc 💧😅

[@Czechmate99]

@00:42 "I've been whipped a bunch of times. I dont think we can..." *points to the black dude* lmfao

[@Overunity357]

BWAHA Mike at 0:45 "I don't think we can... umm..." freaking priceless. 10k thumbs up.

[@TheXman19]

That was so funny to me. I'm glad I found this channel.

[@S.Grenier]

"Sort of corinthian" Probably the least tactical and most powerfully evocative description of a self-defense contraption ever.

[@hard2hurt]

Evocative!

[@selfdefensept]

I love your channel Mike. As a former NYC cop in the South Bronx, although it seems the XL being heavier, hits harder, I would still go with the original. I am always concerned with weapon retention. What I like about the original is that it is thick enough to hurt when it hits, but thin enough to make it difficult for someone to grab it and pull it out of your hand. The XL may hit harder, but I tested it against the sort of bruiser you would want to use something like this against as an equalizer. He said it hit harder, but once he got is hand on it. He was able to hold onto the whip. With the original, I was able to pull hard and get it out of his grasp.

[@JelloFluoride]

Thanks for your input! I was wondering this during the video.

[@TheRubypokespe]

I have been awaiting Hard2squirts' return

[@hard2hurt]

Lol it was a mistake

[@MDallDayPrepper]

You need a big side of pork to hit that thing with. Like they do in that “forged in fire” blade making show.

[@Aro2001]

That pretty much confirmed my thoughts on how nasty the buckler plus stinger would be... Especially when you can hide the stinger out of view while drawing attention with the buckler.

[@Raz0rking]

I've got a buckler after seeing their videos and now i want a stinger .. just it'll be a bitch to get my hands on one. I don't care if it is the "small" one or the big one.

[@JR_22A]

@@Raz0rking Go to a hardware store (like home depot or something like that) and buy a length of that cable they should sell that, if not get a motorbike brake line, they are more less the same then you can figure the handle out.

[@999jay999]

@@JR_22A Thats what I done, in UK here and every time I go to order something I see in these vids they either do not ship to UK or I get a $30.00 shipping fee on top.... But I have brought some of that steel cord after watching the first video about the stinger now just working out the best way for the handle. Probably wood, drill hole and with resin glue fix the steel cord into it. Certainly wont look as cool but if it gets lost its not a great deal either.

[@EGRJ]

Especially after you strap a flashlight to the buckler.

[@JR_22A]

@@999jay999 You can get an old aluminum flashlight and fill it up with resin and use that as a handle, you can also strip an inch of the end of the cable and fray it to get .... shall we say.... better results.

[@no-trick-pony]

"They send us more stuff" - "... great." xD

[@Dale_The_Space_Wizard]

I am assuming that this whip is not recommended for any kinky bedroom play.

[@NecroBanana]

Depends on the person.

[@bluedogguy]

I've seen the welts bamboo leaves on skin. Can't be much worse than that.

[@hyperstormy976]

bluedogguy steel is much worse than bamboo

[@kanucks9]

@@bluedogguy yeah man we do sparring with rattan and they leave welts but it doesn't matter much - this will just cut you.

[@corriedebeer799]

only when there is a iron-clad safe-word in place.

[@levelwithz3779]

*The key is in the motion. It's all about the way the whip flicks with rotation. Lead with the handle let the whip lag behind then you extend your elbow and want the end of the whip to make contact at extension. Imagine you're holding a hammer and you're swinging towards the nail but with a tad more wrist before contact. Its insanely effective when used the right way. That's the best way I can think to describe it.*

[@mattjohnson2386]

That's hilarious...we can't whip the black guy

[@brokenneck]

Timestamp?

[@Im_amber-e5f]

3:54

[@TheXman19]

😂😂😂

[@MJFUYT]

He was testing each one by tapping his head. Then he broke out into a drum beat. Lol. Priceless 🤣

[@jakubkoterba5968]

I do have a question. Have you considered motorcycle gloves as a self-defense weapon? With strengthened knuckles, this seems like a good option. Best regards, and have a nice day!

[@hard2hurt]

Yes. Working on it.

[@Adam-sp8pl]

@@hard2hurt still working on it? Motorbiking for self defence

[@R.A.M.10]

That thing is powerful looking. I have one en route for a friend of mine that works overnight in a slightly tense area. This will give her some safety and me a little bit less anxiety. Awesome video guys.

[@shockwave6213]

What I love about the Stinger whips is that they can be carried in your belt loops under your belt with the grip mostly out of sight.

[@KH-mf1sq]

This reminds me of the sjambok, the South African whip. I ordered one from my firearms supplier when I had my FFL. The one I bought is made of plastic, though I think the authentic ones were made of some sort of leather. The plastic are still, however, very effective. I hit myself hard a few times, and the pain was excruciating. One day, I showed it to my father, who was a police officer at the time. I hit him with it, but not as hard as I hit myself, and he felt a lot of pain. I asked him what he thought about tne police having these, and he said hitting someone full force with it is immoral and would cause them psychological problems. It stings like you can't believe.

[@DevilShepherd]

Guys, the smaller one is obviously more effective. The smaller the point of contact, the more it hurts. And because it's lighter, it's more flexible, it hurts way more! Also if a guy rushes and tackle you in a clinch or a takedown... the big one is completely useless whilst the small one is still very effective with just the flip of a wrist.

[@deli256]

Very true

[@ant7936]

Physics Pressure!

[@thebodykeepsthescore2828]

@7:41 "I would if they were running away" 😂😂 That's not self defence my man😂

[@namesake7139]

"Maddux you don't talk" lol!!!!!!!! I understand exactly what you mean. When I'm having certain conversation with my friends and my son intervenes with his expert advice

[@Cronposh]

lmfao when they considered it for a moment and then went "... We can't"

[@xSmilinBanditx]

That walk-off and two second stunned silence after the buckler-grab-whipstrike... outch!

[@franka.408]

Alternate title: "3 fit men whip each other"

[@metalbirbsandchubbysquirre2135]

Can you hit the bag with it, so we can see the "whip back"?? Kinda curious what the danger to my own self is.

[@hard2hurt]

It doesn't really do that if you follow through... and even if you don't it's not that bad

[@gordo608]

I forgot all about these videos. One popped up in my suggestions and now I've watched all of them again. It reminds me so much of me and my buddies with a spring baton in high school. lol

[@KennyKenKin]

"This thing makes my heart beat fast" LOVE IT LOL

[@hard2hurt]

Not in a good way.

[@KennyKenKin]

@@hard2hurt Your face was like you were holding a destructive device like a bomb or something. So serious. Genuine laugh out loud moment.

[@xvillin]

Cold steel makes a jambok whip. You should test one of those out as well. It's just a real stiff version of one of those stingers. Stiff as to be almost like a stick. I'm sure you've seen it. I wanted one but I might think I would get a stinger now.

[@moshpitmachine]

Skallagrin did make a good point about hitting the back. If you wind up in a clinch or they're wrestling you you might be snapping that wrist and taking back shots

[@brettlabat8715]

Lol, so scared to whip the black buy!!!! LMAO!!! And he’s just like “yeah I wanna do the whipping!!!” I love y’all’s channel, y’all are doing great

[@AlexanderGent]

"Hits like a stick", thought you didn't rate sticks? 😜 This is basically a trade off. The thinner ones have less surface area at point of contact which means the pain is more focused. The thicker one however is heavier and delivers more force. Have you thought about wearing padded clothing and testing it full power through that? I sent you links to some equipment.

[@VincentMMALife]

Another day, another video of guys whipping each other, precisely my kind of content lol😂🔥👊🏼

[@Krueger2014]

I have owned both. I had the original one but left it in an old girlfriend’s car and now she has it. The XL is so much more painful and effective. I have hit myself in the leg at almost 30% and it left a bruise for a couple days. I have hit light poles, and concrete barriers at 100% and it does start to tear up the plastic sheathing after a couple good hits on a rough surface like concrete. But the sound it makes is terrifying. I’ve also hit my skull at around 15% and the pain goes right through your bone and it really rattles your brain. I think a 100% downward shot right on top of someone’s skull could crack their skull and certainly concuss them. If you hit someone across the cheekbone or across the orbital bone, it will 100% break that bone. Especially if you do a full power shot. That follow-through advice is no joke. In fact, don’t even treat it like a baton or whip. Instead, treat it like a blade and use blade fundamentals. You can even kind of sort of jab with it, if you keep an extended arm in front of you and just kind of rotate your wrist around in a circle. You can kind of send the whip out in front of you and then bring it back and re-chamber. Because of its length, if you keep that fully extended arm, you don’t have to worry about it coming back and hitting you in the face. I keep it in my car, and if I don’t feel a gun is necessary in a situation, I am 100% going for this. It will only take one shot for somebody to know what it is capable of and they will back off. It’s also a legit car rescue tool. The seatbelt cutter is in a good spot. The glass breaker is in a good spot and once you’ve broken the glass using the whip to clear the glass actually works.

[@ericwalsh2954]

Cameraman deserves a raise my boy deserves it for saying what we're all thinking

[@Spartan120]

1:00 You should probably see a doctor about that. Also wondering if StingerTools is considering an XXL model or bigger. Gotta go for that supersonic whiplash. 😂

[@Augusto_Caten]

same thickness but longer would be badass

[@JR_22A]

@@Augusto_Caten it would be impractical.... or it would be to assault people.... not defend straight up attack.

[@junichiroyamashita]

Maybe slightly longer,a quarter longer than it is now. Or better,a third.

[@JSharap]

Add electric shock feature to the whip and you've got the perfect BDSM tool.

[@JR_22A]

@@christrickett3291 All weapons have a chance of hurting the user, when we get in the realm of flexible stuff the chances are higher, making it shorter lessens the chance but it's still there.... but if you do a proper folow through with the hit it should not hit you.

[@frenchjamdawg]

Systema use whip as weaponry, And french old timer ise to hang around with thick pieces of cable to defend themselves. Great combination !

[@Maxvr9999]

An even better combo than buckler plus stinger would be flashlight plus stinger. The flashlight also allows a free shot but is way easier to use and way easier to carry around. Maybe you could make a video about the best combos. That would be really interesting. Especially, because anyone who seriously wants to defend himself will want to have every little advantage he can get. I would also be interested for your best (combo) suggestions against guns as those are not allowed in a lot of places but the attacker might still have them.

[@philbuilds116]

That's scary. If you ever had a cable under tension snap back at you... I was cut to ribbons by one. I would have lost my thumb if I was 2" either direction. I just had a big gash from my forearm to my wrist. I'm going to say these are amazing at taking the fight away with a low potential of death.

[@pavelzak3603]

Icy Mike, why does your heavybags touch ground ? Short chain or does it have any functional purpose ?

[@jakefarrer2039]

Pavel Žák I’m obviously not icy mike but I can imagine they touch the ground so that they don’t swing as much... maaabye

[@bluedogguy]

The Thai banana bags are supposed to touch the ground. Thai kicks are crazy powerful - stops the swings so more work can be done.

[@Productions-bo3zp]

We cant we just cant do it 😂😂😂

[@MozesWild]

Man. Mike you were cooking on some bad jokes all throughout this episode. Hard to squirt was hilarious. Also I'm really happy they added the belt cutter.

[@sigutjo]

Can you test a bicycle lock with a cable inside for comparison? Where I live, these whips are illegal but locks are not. The difference is that the lock has a solid end piece, so I would be interested if that's worse or not.

[@ceilingfansandtabletops.4670]

Mike: you wanna do the whipping? Cliff: hell yeah Maddox: that's fair

[@proforce1497]

Hard2..... 0:58 EZ Demonitized

[@jethrox827]

Many years ago when I was working in a factory there was a guy there that used to hold his own martial art classes at lunch time, mostly old school JJ locks and throws. I asked him about weapons and he said all you need is this and he pulled out a handkerchief with half a dozen 20c coins tied in the corner and proceeded to whip it at metal targets. He said its not a weapon cause its just his lose change kept in his pocket. I don't know how effective this would be but with lots of practice I suppose a high speed strike to the head might do some damage

[@sephy980]

I've become pretty lethal with a few homemade "technically" legal weapons lol. Dog lead being one and a lanyard with keys and a small weight. Not because I ever plan on using em in self defence...its more due to the fact I watched too much Jackie chan as a kid, n love the idea of making unconventional weapons outta every day objects 😅

[@SM-bm7mk]

So for a small, 60+, not muscle bound male, would you recommend the regular Stinger or the XL Stinger for self defense / protection? Price is only a $10 difference. Thank you for your response.

[@AdamAlexanderK]

Love these TW videos. I picked up an XL. I hit myself a few times, didn't seem that bad. Awkward to carry because it's so long. I use it to walk in the park, every once in a while ill use it to clear a bush in the way.

[@ianstiehl1994]

I just have the tacti-cool finger grooves. A simple handle with a slight palm swell would be way more comfortable and offer a better grip

[@tinklvsme]

When u said the developer never felt it being used on himself. I was LP to be stung with the tasers we carried. It felt like a snake bite! I chose my butt and it hurt for a week and left 2 red scars. These things are not teenagers that are dumb toys. I’m definitely ordering 1! Maybe 2. 👍❤️🇺🇸😎😷🌟🌟🌟 Ly

[@char4s]

Knew a guy who used to have a length of high voltage electrical cable in his car for self-defense, 3 thick copper wires sheathed in black insulation. I always assumed it was way overboard, and, looking at you guys, it definitely was :)

[@buffewo6386]

New and improved! Perfect for your riot suppression needs! Deciding wether this needs to live in the door of my vehicle, for the seat belt cutter.

[@eggplant8452]

“Idk what that is Maddox”

[@japanesebitter1066]

2:21 fighting through a nut shot

[@timamyett9679]

If you need that whip to inflict more damage put a metal tip on the end, as seen in the homemade varieties.

[@dustinjones5146]

Finding myself in North Carolina for vacation, debating making the drive to drop by to see one of my favorite youtubers. Saw this video this morning and started to heavily reconsider my life choices lol.

[@henka1bylin]

Have you ever tried the cold steel sjambok for a self defense option? Love your videos from Sweden

[@professionalamateur849]

How have you not done a whip and buckler combo video?

[@hard2hurt]

We kinda did 2

[@zanecreed]

"do you think you can do the coffin dance with that?" " *idk what that is max* "

[@pc3348]

Can you guys test the Edelrid Aramid sling as a whip...the 30cm and the green 60cm...just put index finger in loop and whip away...

[@lazur1]

They should make a cap for the breaker-end, so it can be tucked without pain.

[@Lavoz7]

0:45 “I don’t think we can…” I see what he’s referring to there 🤣

[@rottweilerfun9520]

That thing is a beast , mine is in the mail, I can't wait until it gets here.

[@andrewareva4605]

kinetic energy equals 1/2 mass velocity squared. I wonder if by being heavier, it travels slower and it has a way less amount of energy. Double the mass doubles the kinetic energy, but doubling the speed quadruples the kinetic energy. Also you would get tired faster.

[@stoweby]

Ya'll were smart. There was no way this channel would survive the optics in this day and age .

[@fsnicolas]

Awesome! Another stinger video!

[@hard2hurt]

Yeah... awesome...

[@fsnicolas]

Hahaha!

[@SuperChicken666]

When I was a kid, back in the middle of the 20th Century, a switch always hurt more than a belt.😊❤❤

[@wmgthilgen]

The only issue I would have concealing it in my belt loops is: When you first open the package, due to shipping it comes curled to a certain degree. I wondering how much memory would it have maintaing a curve while in one's belt loops perhaps for years if and when you draw it out.

[@rielsaigo7247]

The biggest problem with the whip in my opinion is... it's just socially awkward. I think about concealed carrying that thing in the belt loops at Wal Mart and... it really feels like a pain in the rear to thread through the belt loops and carry around. And then, if you actually do use it... what's a prosecutor, judge and jury going to think about using this weird novel weapon? I don't know. You already mentioned the PR optics of the whip aren't great. Cops whipping a black suspect for example. The main drawback of this weapon seems to be getting people to actually use it. An effective weapon no one wants to use is worse than a stupid ku-baton that people actually will use.

[@ShinKyuubi]

That thing reminds me of the ONE time I had to cut my own switch..if you are southern or live near the woods..you KNOW what that is..and my dad wouldn't let me get a smaller one..had to be as thick as my thumb and after you've had that done ONCE you never want to have to do it again.

[@josephmarcolin1779]

I just bought the Stinger. Could you make a tutorial on how best to apply it/tactical strikes, for self defense? Thanx

[@hocusfocus8016]

My guy out here manifesting ancestral rage to whip Mike

[@imthetube44]

Ancestral rage? 😂😭

[@surgeeo1406]

So... Is this your version of "Eating a bajillion schoville hot sauce" challenge?

[@corriedebeer799]

sticks and stones may break my bones, but self-defense whips excite me

[@MrBilld75]

Love your videos and how you are the Guinea Pig for these things, lol. That's dedication and I like how completely fair you are and how your mind works. You certainly give things a thorough going over. And how you make sure to be clear about context too. Like what kind of situations warrant these things and what the alternatives are.

[@frazjack229]

4:28 alternate timeline

[@derekvandenburg6689]

I laughed out loud when icy Mike went down in pain.

[@hard2hurt]

Thanks...

[@Benny-wb5nj]

Could you maybe do a video on how to improvise a tool like the stinger and compate it?

[@JR_22A]

Go to a hardware store (like home depot or something like that) and buy a length of that cable they should sell that, if not get a motorbike brake line, they are more less the same then the handle is up to you.

[@z1z2z3z4z1z2]

tough choice.. thinner = more speed, more sting, or larger = more thump.

[@valeriegogel4214]

Personally I like my 7 shot 357 Magnum w a speed loader or my 9mm. If someone is on pcp or methed or just going berserk w a high pain tolerance the stinger may not be effective. My Magnum or knife is always gonna be effective. May have to give em a few but it will work. I'm 6,4 235 to 245 depending. I'm also fairly stout and had some training throughout my life stsrting at childhood...I've been in and seen more than my fair share. Ive really worked people over w my hands, feet, and baton that would just not go down because of chemicals..I would like to test out the stinger but know it could never replace my gun or knife. Always looking for a good less than lethal

[@GreatOldOne999]

This+shield is basically flail and shield middle ages style. Sounds good for home defense.

[@ashtonrichardson3667]

Dark souls in real life loving the whip and buckler build 😂

[@BeReadyFighting]

It's like the Escalade of tactical whips.

[@hard2hurt]

Very good comparison hahah exactly

[@kghkfyxk]

Love2Hurt

[@joesierolon5171]

I bought the original after your first video and try it on my leg a couple of times and I already fell sad and sorry if I have to whip somebody with it but the XL even with the belt clip I think it would be difficult to EDC

[@hard2hurt]

Yeah it's pretty big.

[@joesierolon5171]

hard2hurt that’s what she said😆

[@erceanadrian6905]

I found some half centimeter thick hoze for propane and stuf like that and hit my self with it, that thing hurts dude, it is maybe three times the size of the big whip, with little power as posible but it felt like i took a big piece of iron on my forearm that sh*t hurs. You should try it LOL

[@LordLaavineshNithianandan]

4:28 how the tables have turned and time has changed 😂

[@kaylsomogyi3475]

Hey Mike please do a video on the Sjambok or atleast mention your opinion on it sometime in the future.

[@joesierolon5171]

you are right those are some of the funniest videos ever

[@Oree_Nabisko]

Love the new whip. ...You ever try a tactical rosary?

[@gaae2000]

Thank you guys for the demonstration!

[@rocko6439]

I've seen a few demos of this tactical whip striking arms, legs, etc... Would you be able to demo trying to grab the whip from the owner?

[@stevenpayne984]

Imagine the stinger whip with a weighted lead ball on the end about the size of a ping pong ball, or something like a lead fishing weight. Then add it to a handle which is basically a knuckleduster with the glassbreaker point built in. Alternatively, split the stinger whip about six inches from the end into six individual strands ending in a ball bearing, like a 'cat O' nine tails kind of thing.

[@deerpic]

They have one like this on their website.

[@crazyirishmedic9535]

They need to make one with no spike on the end and a smaller handle for EDC

[@hard2hurt]

Oooh... I'll pass it along

[@nobodysfavourite6953]

What's EDC?

[@crazyirishmedic9535]

@@nobodysfavourite6953 Every Day Carry

[@robcanthandlestupidy9249]

I love have the big dude says I'll hit him in the back when there running away LMFAO 🤣