XC Just Got a Whole Lot More Exicting! - Titanium Turner Nitrous First Look

The Turner Nitrous is a titanium "XC" hardtail that looks like it wants to get rowdy! On paper this thing looks absolutely flawless and it came in a 25.1lbs with pedals. The difference between this bike and most other bikes that come across my stand is massive. So much attention to detail. Bravo Turner, I'm a fan. Which features are your favorite? What would you upgrade? Do bikes in this price range appeal to you? Learn more about this bike here: turnerbikes.co...
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[@hardtailparty]

Thanks for watching friends. My brain fog has been especially bad of late and i struggle to effortlessly talk about the technical details on the fly. Theres sometging really special about this bike. All the little details have been perfected. Its pretty rare to see that these days.

[@mircea5013]

brain fog.. this reminds me again of my tick bite, which I've recovered from. With the risk of being annoying, please have the tick-specific tests done again at a tick specialist. Not a general infectious disease doctor, but a tick-borne disease specialist. The symptoms you're describing are resembling that way too accurately. All other doctors were telling me "it's not the tick" and they were wrong.

[@MrFastmq]

Was going to say this. I'm an avid mtber and this was one of my symptoms for lyme

[@stanley909]

I love that N+1 stamp behind the seat tube. Really drives home the fact that the frame maker is a mountain biker as well.

[@wheelieso323np]

I bought a frame about a year ago and had it sent to the UK. I'm glad Steve is gushing over the bike as i am still every time I ride it. I built it up with Sids, GX, XT brakes and Venn309 carbon rims on 240 hubs. A great bike for the South Downs where fast xc rides are the order of the day. You can cover a lot of ground without feeling beaten up! It goes down the gnarly bits in a pretty composed way. Mine is a small and I like that the head tube is 85mm coupled with a Syntace Flatforce stem means that I can have the bars level with the saddle, (which is pretty good for a 5'4" person on a 29er! I have never dealt with anyone half as helpful or so Genuine and pleasant as DT. A good choice for a belated 70th birthday present to myself! Puts a smile on my face every time I ride it!

[@ThomasDiFrancesco-Schäfer]

Ti-Frames are awesome, i ride a pretty old one 26". This one shows all the advantage, less weight. Never problems with rust. And you only buy once and have fun for decades.

[@jonthesailorman]

The 2013 era Turner Burner’s were ahead of their time. Still a cool bike when you see one in the wild. Really looking forward to seeing more about this one. Thanks Steve, cool video.

[@AZRob.]

No way! I've been wondering about that bike for over a year, and thought many times that I would love to see you review it. Beautiful bike!

[@chriseberle8363]

Had a Turner Burner and loved it. Had some conversations with Dave and you are right he is a master of his craft. Looks like an amazing bike.

[@stephenkohler3472]

I love that you've got a Turner in for review! Dave was a huge part of the bike community that I grew up in when he was living in Colorado, so it's pretty cool to see that he's still making bikes that are so well thought out.

[@ElevationEveryWeekend]

It’s a beauty! Some day I will lock down a forever Ti adventure or fat bike! In other news, I took advantage of the Ibis 25% off sale and bought a DV9, super stoked for that!

[@LawrenceMacMacster]

I bought a 1999 ti Kona hei hei in 2002 and I still have it, all original parts wore out but the frame is still pristine. Titanium hardtails are forever bikes 😅

[@j.e.s.4121]

Liked your Pipedream video so I bought one. Liked this video so I bought one of these too. Happy Birthday to me. Thanks Steve.

[@TroyCote]

That's one of the most beautiful bikes I've seen. That's an absolutely gorgeous frame.

[@denisrogers4358]

Good on ya Steve-I wish you well. Did you know the first Turner Burners’ were made in Arizona ? Frank the Welder had a factory in Chandler and I was the assembly manager. We made Dean, RockyMountain, Baracuda and I believe the first Norco fully (it had a Canadian maple-leaf cut out in the monocoque) as well as the Mongoose Amps Leigh Donovan and Byron Lopez (ha!) won the Natty Championship on. Great to see Neko’s Frameworks project-because FTW is an unsung hero of MTB. Thanks for rad content !

[@hardtailparty]

I didn't know that! Very interesting.

[@billydeewilliams8909]

Love the tire clearance tests. I bought an HT (2020 Santa Cruz Chameleon) a while ago after using the consultation service on Patreon, and honestly it's my least favorite bike (but I think it is about the best HT I could have gotten for where I live). I think as an MTBer, I like rigid bikes and full sus bikes. I know this makes me weird. But as a result I am now planning to convert the Chameleon into a full rigid/skinny-fatbike, with a 29x3.0 in the front and a 29x2.6 or 2.5 in the rear.

[@stevetordoff]

Dude you’re looking super good after your illness. Good work HTP Steve!

[@hardtailparty]

Thanks for your kindness. Unfortunately I've gained 20lbs from the illness and medications, but I'm glad to be able to still make videos from time to time.

[@pauls3616]

Looks like a fantastic bike. I enjoyed owning and riding a ti hardtail back in the mid 90’s. Light and fast and never worried about frame damage. Dave Turner started making the Turner Burner around that time and that was a bike that I really wanted to try. Thanks for the first look Steve.

[@yamahschector]

look at the internal frame routing! This bike is smooth. I would trade my two hardtails for this thing and mine are pretty nice.

[@hardmtnbiker]

Steve, you really see the value and attention to detail that often gets overlooked. That is internal routing that was really mapped out. A T47-BB, how many hardtails do that? The "in-between" stays brake mount, very rare. All the bottle mounts, including a TT mount, another rare feature on a hardtail.I could go on but I will probable just buy one, I like it that much. This frame clicks all the boxes for me.

[@Shmoodoggy]

Can’t wait to see that out on the trail! Did you see the way the seat tube flairs where it hits the BB? David did that on the Cyclosis also, it makes it stiff laterally and still compliant, vertically. So smooth.

[@hardtailparty]

Excellent idea.

[@velo.voyageur]

Pretty sure my dad had a Turner full sus in like ‘06. Was a cool rig, but man oh man do i love this hardtail! Thanks for sharing, can’t wait for ride footage

[@GoodwinGlassworks]

You stated Turner tried to make the chainstays even shorter than they are....how??!! Appears the tire is hairs away from rubbing the ST as it is! Ti is the deal, though.....I rode a Kona Hei Hei ti xc frame in the mid/late 90's as a race and every day bike. The only frame I've owned that I didn't break(and then sold), and the pop I could get from the rear was awesome....almost like having a fast rebound on a shock. I had a Marz Z1 on it, XT/XTR stuff...weighed right around 25 pounds I believe

[@shaunroach7829]

Superb first look Steve!!! Titanium frame 👀👀 always fun to see!!! When your feeling better and up to it looking forward to the ride review!! Keep resting, and try to stay positive and hopefully you’ll be feeling better soon!!

[@michaelw3230]

Thank you for another great review. I've been riding mtn bikes for almost 30 years and love to see OG bike builders still making amazing bikes. Hope you are staying healthy and good to see you are still able to do ride reviews too.

[@ronanderson5736]

That is a sweet hardtail! Love titanium! Nice job Steve!

[@jimrutherford2773]

I will always have at minimum two hardtails in my corral of bikes. You can ride them 95% of the time on and off road with the exception of the most extreme rocky trails, and even those are ridable depending on the rider's ability and experience.

[@LawrenceMacMacster]

Only two? I keep 3 for good measure 😂

[@dustinlerch9272]

Hard tail is like a butter knife and you’ll always need it

[@jimrutherford2773]

@@LawrenceMacMacster I'd have four or five if my job paid better.

[@harveyjoneswoodsman5956]

I only have one but i chose to go with a 29+ basically the swiss army knife of bikes as far as I'm concerned 😅

[@englishwithtimusa]

Another great video, and keep hanging in there with your health! I know they are fully rigid bikes, but I would love to see you review Jones SWB and LWB!

[@notice_fpv]

Wow! That wheel spun forever!

[@simon6652]

That is an absolute thing of beauty! Wow.

[@Gjifdxvv]

I have a voodoo bizango pro with very a similar geometry vibe (74.5 st/66.5 ht/435 stays/1172 wheelbase in size m) and for a budget bike (£950GBP) it really seems to hit this sweet spot of modern trail/xc; very balanced and capable, neutral yet exciting. I heard another bike OG Joe Murray has input into the designs for voodoo. Love the video and would love a turner one day..!

[@rantingwrench]

I'd be SO interested to see your views on the Stooge Cycles Mk6. Andy who runs Stooge is local to me and I picked up a Mk6 frameset on a whim a few months ago. Somehow a rigid singlespeed (it will also take gears!) has now become my primary MTB. It's pretty radical for what it is and I'd love for you to ride one.

[@William.N]

I love the new background!

[@bjornwijnands7420]

Bikes like this make me very curious ..like how it will ride and feel.cant wait for your ride review !

[@danielhartwig3150]

Absolutely mouthwatering bike

[@sagordo7587]

I like my turner sultan. I've been curious about this bike since I've heard about. I think I'm going to have to get one.

[@dennismiller1602]

WOW Steve…..so sleek….seriously I want one…..my stache just got retired to extra hardtail fleet for visiting friends n family!🙂 I’ll be in touch, thanks!

[@oklahotb3217]

That is an amazing parts spec. The only thing I might change on that would be touch points. And the brakes lol

[@simonburton505]

Yet Another Stunning bike buy the Legendary Dave Turner

[@wpmccray1]

Gorgeous bike. Hope you are feeling a little better.

[@jeffreyhaas2052]

This review was awesome probably one of my favorites. Honestly had me thinking about a new bike, but my Revel Ranger is a pure joy to ride. Have you ever considered reviewing a Scott Scale? My daughter rides one for her NICA races in PA. She loves it and we’re making some upgrades from the stock (got a dropper, electric shifting and will be getting higher end carbon wheelset. I know Scott is a bigger brand, but I’d love to hear your thoughts about some of the more common (to me) brands. Thanks for what you do and who you are. Deep Peace

[@porschephiliac4356]

My goodness thats a beautiful bike. When we were working on tjs bike yesterday, moving that around your shop was like moving a bag of feathers. Life goals... amiright? 😂

[@hardtailparty]

After I review it you'll have to take it out for a spin.

[@isaacbrooks5999]

The shop is looking good!

[@ShadLife]

I love more Ti hardtails on the market. I have an Esker Hayduke Ti and absolutely love it and the geo is spot on!

[@hardtailparty]

I have a japhy ti that I love.

[@alexandrerobin974]

It looks fantastic !

[@carnivorebob3250]

Awesome review. I love hardtails and have ridden both ends of the extreme recently. My Yelli Screamy with a 120mm fork was fairly awesome. I found the seat tube a smidge too steep and the bike too rigid. Have a Chromag root down and it’s too slack for trail riding. I like a hardtail for local trails that are green and blues. The geometry sounds excellent. I see another hardtail in my future. I like the Ibis DV9 for price but this is an incredible bike. I currently ride an Ibis Ripley AF and love it. The geometry is not extreme just perfect for me green to single black. I would rather be under biked 20% than over biked 80%. Even my EMTB is a trail bike.

[@hardtailparty]

I'm with you, I'd rather be underbiked 20% than overbiked. The binary maniak rides a lot like the yelli, only it's supple and has more variety. I love the way the yelli (and maniak) handles though.

[@GHinWI]

That bit of exposed dropper housing between the DT and ST seems like a miss-it even has t47 BB which would allow space to route around the BB. An internal tube would be a bonus. Scraping your housing on the openings in the frame and faffing about with the grommets is a pain.

[@two2pedal289]

not a "miss" but a smoother radius for the cable to operate

[@jasonlewis6914]

So sick man I am obsessed with titanium lol. I work in the metal industry titanium basically strongest metal for metal in the world.

[@fifermr]

I wish every hardtail would just come with sliding dropping outs. If I can't have the option of running single speed without a chain tensioner it makes me sad. There are so many sick hardtails these days, but so few single speedable frames.

[@Simon-Simon-Simon]

DAVE'S a LEGEND

[@wesleywermuth9545]

Looks like a fantastic bike

[@rpiian]

You know, I feel like you would benefit a lot from the Bimotal modular ebike motor (the one that drives the brake rotor). You could swap it between hardtails and at least get some decent downhill testing in without killing you for weeks from the climbing. They’re pricey - but man I feel like you’d be a great candidate!

[@asbjrnkristiansen429]

Oh man, what a bike. And on a side note: That N+1 on the seat stay made my day. So cool. You said it has a high engagement hub. What's the number?

[@brianhagan4728]

I’d love to hear you talk about east coast vs west coast frame geometries. I live on the east coast and I love the Yo Eddie from Fat City Bikes. We like short wheel bases with the rear tucked under your butt for climbing purposes.

[@thomashelander6753]

Impressive bike!

[@nodbag6301]

Very Good Steve. You are looking well. How's it going Pal?

[@hardtailparty]

Thanks. It's not going great, but I'm grateful to be alive.

[@dennisfloyd8514]

Good looking bike. 😮

[@kiethpederson7558]

Very nice frame

[@syms85]

Can you review the orange P7 29r? And put it on a black diamond? I can’t find many videos on them. Thanks great channel buddy

[@gfxman14]

I love hardtails and that's a BA looking bike

[@GokkunGuru]

Looks just like the 2023 Sage Powerline but a fraction of the price. Wow😊 But the Sage has full internal routing. There’s room in the T47 BB to hide the cables.

[@hardtailparty]

I find it difficult to adjust seatpost height when it's routed around the bb.

[@GokkunGuru]

@@hardtailparty​​⁠You are right. You pretty much need to know your seat height so you only mess with the dropper cable/housing length once.

[@DavidTurner-t3e]

The first couple of years the Nitrous had cable routing through the BB, it's possible, but a pita.

[@GokkunGuru]

@@DavidTurner-t3e​​⁠I had a really freaking tough time routing my rear derailleur hose through the 3D printed chainstay on my 2023 Sage Powerline. That was by far the most difficult aspect of the build.

[@a8f235]

Personally I dislike seeing cables swooping under the BB, because they can be grinded and bashed out on the trails. The rest looks very good though, hands down.

[@zimmerwerks]

Hey Steve! I love your channel! I’m 55 and just getting back into biking since racing sport class in the 90s on 26rs. I’ve long dreamt of a sub 25# hardtail to be a daily dream date, commuter, sport racer, and even bikepacking super climber. Well, it looks like we’re there! I have a couple months to go before taking the financial plunge and you’ve been super helpful. This bike and your Maniak from Binary are great examples of what I’m looking for. You mentioned in this episode that even though bikes have been around so long, we still improve a lot, etc., and this brought to me the question- What happened to the brakes? Klampers look cool as hell and likely the way I’d go but I hardly ran out of v-brakes or u brakes and wonder if you have considered “Over braking”? Maybe it’s just cuz I know how to toe those and suck and hydraulics that this came to mind, however if I can save weight and $$ with something that works just fine, tho the industry has gone another way, that’s fine by me.

[@LawrenceMacMacster]

Not sure about the name but I'd surely want one 😍

[@GilMalka-j7o]

Hey Steve. Awesome review! Nitrous is my first choice for a few months now. Any plans to test the Knolly Tyaughton in either steel or Ti?

[@hardtailparty]

I had plans a year or two ago but they never ended up sending one.

[@jonnynash364]

I just stumbled across the BearClaw titanium bikes. Curious what you think of the the Buck Macho frame, seems like a perfect do all hardtail and great price for a Ti bike

[@John_D2]

I love it !

[@witheyman123]

I’m in love

[@Steve-nu9op]

nice lookin bike

[@redlegds_adventures]

What size frame is this bike? Did this size frame feel comfortable for you?

[@noahmills2884]

So sick

[@icantgivecredit871]

5:31 Is my understanding correct that the tire isn't quite centered between the seat stays? It looks like the right side was not rubbing but the left side was. If so, is that typical on modern bike frames or is it a symptom of a wheel that's not dished properly?

[@hardtailparty]

Great question. Correct. It could be either. Some frames require a slightly different dish than others (but that shouldn't be the case). Other designs place more wheel/tire space on one side than the other. Usually people don't stick super wide tires in here, so they get away with a little leeway on each side. In an ideal world, all tires would be centered. I may need to re-dish this wheel..

[@matthewsopko6135]

can you please review a Lynskey Pro 29 Titanium !!

[@melodyfrench9576]

What size tyre would you suggest for a hard tail? Iv got a 27,5 ragley mmmbop, I’m toying with the idea of 26 or 28 wide tyres but not sure yet which to take the plunge with at first. I ride terrain from rock to soft sand to road to grass, a proper mix

[@wpmccray1]

PS: It looks similar to my Kona Raijin (which was built by Lynskey).

[@mellissanash7517]

Is that geo at sag or unsagged?

[@DavidTurner-t3e]

Unsagged, it's the only constant since everyone will adjust fork differently. DT

[@brendenwestin8785]

Lol... Longest wheel spin on record❤

[@curtydbikes]

Gorgy

[@notpablo8369]

Did turner stopped making full-sus bikes?

[@df0rce]

That weight is crazy.

[@hardtailparty]

Agreed. It's so light in the hand too.

[@Alphadog265]

Great looking bike but the there out of stock

[@tdgdbs1]

The rear triagle will be caked in mud, makes no sense!

[@mister_ray]

Nothing worse than being over biked on a 30+ lb FS slacker MTB. XC HT for sure!

[@theymademepickaname1248]

I'm starting to see a lot of big travel e bikes on my local xc trails.

[@fpeter01]

I think a 3000€ Ti hardtail build is possible, so you can get the bling-bling effect everywhere and maintain the friendship with your wallet.

[@Eman-hx1qw]

If only it had sliding dropouts……..

[@hardtailparty]

For ss you could run an eccentric bb or a tensioner. I have a feeling this would be a really special ss.

[@tomrichards6207]

Maybe I missed it? Where is this frame made? Hand-built Made in the USA or mass produced in China,Taiwan,etc...? Warranty? Over the last few months I've seen people trying to sell broken titanium frames. I've been dreaming of buying a titanium bike since I started mountain biking back in 1985.

[@hardtailparty]

Not made in the US. I can't remember which country made it.

[@robertrobertson7782]

Great job Steve, another fantastic review I love the attempt at the 29+ our inner geekness throwing down🚵‍♀️💪